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Thread: Extreme Static on 2w 28mm speaker

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    Default Extreme Static on 2w 28mm speaker

    I recently completed my first build with a NBv4 in an Epoch saber. Everything was going fine for a few days after I worked out some bugs until the speaker started freaking out this morning.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut2qZgrC2D8

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    Take this with a grain of salt, as I am amateur saber maker. I am pretty good at diagnosing electronic issues however.

    There are a few things that may be causing it. It sounds like a short. Why it happens a while after is unknown. Try shaking the saber to see if it goes away. Check your speaker connections to make sure they cant contact the hilt in any way.

    The impedance for the speaker isnt matched. The NBV4 says 2w 4-8 ohm, but makes no mention of what ideal is. If you have 4ohm, maybe try adding another 4 ohm resistor.

    The magnet in those bass speakers are powerful. I have had little screws and debris attach to my speakers, I am no audio engineer, but a metal (ferrous) housing in close proximity can create a magnetic field that could cause the speaker to behave strangely. Not sure what a diamagnetic metal would do...

    Last issue and hopefully not the cause, is the amp is going...

    Ive been watching you develop this saber, lots of roadbumps along the way make for a good saber smith!

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    I appreciate your reply. When you say the amp could be going, what would cause that?

    Someone else pointed out that my solder points on the board could be too exposed. Though, when I take out the board and turn it on it still has the issue. Thoughts?

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    Are the wires touching the little chip in the back? You shouldn't fold over wires onto other metal bits unless they are shrink tubed. Try and pull those wires away and make sure they dont touch anything. If you have to, put some electrical tape on them to diagnose that is the issue. The you may have to rewire. You might be able to just heat the tip until the solder melts , push the wire through until the outside insulation is up against the board. Use little clips to clip off the excess on bottom side. You should also twist the tips of the wires, they should look like tight little spirals.

    Or just use shrink tubes. (Everyone forgets and usually its on the nicest solder joint all day)

    The amp may be going if you had to fiddle a few times wiring it. But I only mentioned that as last possible issue.

    Soldering isn't a trivial skill. It is difficult to teach yourself.
    Try skimming a few how to videos. Some guys make it seem easy, others have 100 plus lists of do and do nots.
    Last edited by Whosle; 05-31-2017 at 08:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whosle View Post
    Are the wires touching the little chip in the back? You cany fold over wires onto other metal bits unless they are shrink tubed. Try and pull those wires away and make sure they dont touch anything.

    The amp may be going if you had to fiddle a few times wiring it. But I only mentioned that as last possible issue.
    I pulled the wires away and tried it. Still the same issue.

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    Dang. What is speaker impedance? If too low, could be cause.

    The speaker also may be blown.

    Try and re format the sd card possibly. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whosle View Post
    Dang. What is speaker impedance? If too low, could be cause.

    The speaker also may be blown.

    Try and re format the sd card possibly. Good luck.
    I have a shipment of speakers on the way that should be here tomorrow. If resoldering this speaker doesn't work, I will try a new one. Just seems kind of weird for a brand new speaker to die in less than a week.

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    I would strongly recommend rewiring your board no matter what. You should have only enough bare wire to make the contact, all that extra bare wire is just begging for something to go wrong.

    The TCSS youtube channel is an excellent resource with great tips on soldering and other building techniques.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbkuma View Post
    I would strongly recommend rewiring your board no matter what. You should have only enough bare wire to make the contact, all that extra bare wire is just begging for something to go wrong.

    The TCSS youtube channel is an excellent resource with great tips on soldering and other building techniques.
    Is adding heat shrink to the bare wire an option? I'm always worried that I'm going to melt the outside of the wire.

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    I'm actually having the same problem with the 2w 20mm speaker from TCSS. I needed to use the 20mm due to a smaller hilt I'm using for my 10yr old daughter as the 28mm wouldn't fit.

    I have noticed that lowering the sound volume from 4 to 2 seems to make it take longer for the static to occur. The static occurs and does not seem to be affected by messing with the wires, swinging the saber, tapping the sound board ect.....

    I don't believe I have any issues with wires crossing either.

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