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Thread: LED Engin RGBA wiring, Each Die on Seperate Switches

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    Question LED Engin RGBA wiring, Each Die on Seperate Switches

    Hello all!
    I'm a Saber Building (and electronics) noob, BUT I've been scouring the inter-webs, and particular this forum, for as much info as I can find, in regards to this particular question.
    (and YES, I have been trying an un-godly number of different search term variants before deciding to post this)

    I've seen saber builders produce a product that takes a multi-die LED (such as a LED Engin, or Luxeon Tri-Rebel), and wires it so that each Die is controlled by it's own latching switch, giving the wielder the ability, at the press of a button (more specifically a combination of several buttons), to change the color of their blade, by turning on/off each die. I realize that this may be a bit "old school", as a number of sound boards now have "color mixing" technology, but those are a bit more expensive, and still involve adjusting/saving settings, and the best I've found, still require a blade retraction/ignition to load a new "sound bank" (and a different color).

    Unless it is some sort of trade secret, I was hoping to use this thread to work through the different wiring possibilities, so that others like me would have a (hopefully easy to find) resource.

    I'll start with the basics (a theme I learned from reading the forums).

    1) "Stunt" Saber Resistor setup
    Assumptions:
    a) Wiring the die in parallel.
    b) Using the Manufacturer's "Typical" forward Voltages (from http://www.ledengin.com/files/produc...LZ4-00MA00.pdf).
    c) Using resistors calculated (at the 1%) from an online calculator (here http://www.hobby-hour.com/electronics/ledcalc.php).
    (I realize these may be odd values, but this is just to check a wiring diagram)

    Here is the diagram:
    LED Engin RGBA Stunt.jpg
    I would appreciate confirmation to whether this is a "correct" setup, from a electrical standpoint, and feedback to other possibilities to achieve the same goal (IE, a BuckPuck version?) that I can then include new diagrams.

    Thanks!
    bigkevin61

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    It'll work just fine. The only real concern is how much space all of those switches will take up.
    We all have to start somewhere. The journey is all the more impressive by our humble beginnings.

    http://led.linear1.org/1led.wiz for the lazy man's resistor calculator!
    http://forums.thecustomsabershop.com...e-to-Ohm-s-Law for getting resistor values the right way!

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    Thanks Silver Serpent.

    So, I've been trying to learn as much as I can about the electrical side of saber building.
    From what I can tell, resistors will work fine, but having a managed current system in place (ie, BuckPuck) would perform more efficiently, and retain a stable color/brightness output as the DC battery voltage fluctuates (drops with use).
    Would there be a way to run the above with a single BuckPuck?
    I believe that you could NOT, and you would need one for each Die (as each is controlled by a latched switch, which then gets quite expensive).
    If one wanted ALL 4 Die on all the time, (no switches) one BuckPuck would work, if the Die were wired in series, with a Supply Voltage greater ( by 2V+ according to the BuckPuck instructions) then the sum of the Forward Voltages of all the Die. But then you could not change on the fly.

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    On a single buckpuck? You couldn't do it effectively. You'll need to wire the LEDs in parallel in order to switch them on and off individually. If you do that with 4 LEDs, you'll be sharing the 1000mA of the puck across all four LEDs (each gets 250mA). The current would increase to each LED as you shut off others, giving you a really bright single-color saber, but a very dim multi-color saber.

    Stick with resistors for this project. Four buckpucks would take up half your hilt.
    We all have to start somewhere. The journey is all the more impressive by our humble beginnings.

    http://led.linear1.org/1led.wiz for the lazy man's resistor calculator!
    http://forums.thecustomsabershop.com...e-to-Ohm-s-Law for getting resistor values the right way!

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