People are not flaming you, they are trying to give you advice, stop being so sensitive.
You are going to have to do some research on your own, too, you know.
People are not flaming you, they are trying to give you advice, stop being so sensitive.
You are going to have to do some research on your own, too, you know.
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I don't know what you planned on using to cut your sink tube shroud with, but if it's a Dremel, then you will be able to cut the MHS sleeve material just as easily. Well I suppose not exactly as easily seeing as the sleeve material is a little bit thicker. So let's just say a sink tube would be like cutting through warm butter with a hot knife, while cutting through the sleeve material would be like cutting through cold butter with a room temperature knife. Either way.... pretty easy.
Hey. If you wanna knock it on the head then that's your decision.
Yes sabering isn't the cheapest hobby and I can understand why you think you'd use sink tube.
But, so you really get why people are saying you should use MHS sleeve, (and Card knows best here having used sink tube on a couple of sabers which have come apart because it's so thin) is because the starkiller has a chamber reveal, a big one. So imagine cutting away almost half your sink tube in the middle and having very little to reinforce it, if you dueled with it, it may well bend and eventually break. The sleeve material is about a mm thicker, which will give you some added strenght.
If you use a combo of parts like the others said it will be easier and sturdier.
Look at my chamber reveal on my SK esk saber, I used a double male with slots and cut out a bit of the MHS to make the reveal larger.
There are lots of ways to build this sort of saber.
The easiest way to get close would be using MHS. I've found when you try and scrimp on cost it costs you more in the long run.
Usind a pommel 7, 8in ext modded by Tim to have the new grip inserts x 6, double male with slots, modded, 1.5in ext and BH 2, some sleeve material and a bit of enginuity you could do a fairly good Starkiller type saber. The MHS will cost $70 not a massive amount and the sleeve about $12. Not a lot for a saber really.
Last edited by Invisas1979; 02-23-2011 at 05:40 AM.
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just like i tried to explain in chat earlier...
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I have refrence pics of the Starkiller saber so I should be good. Maybe if I add the 4 rods inside the hilt it will make it stronger? Kinda like more support.
If you mean the TCSS threaded rods and tubing then I doubt it. They're well suited to suspending electronics in a hilt but not so much structural for the hilt unless you use a stronger threaded rod then brass or aluminum. Otherwise they wont make much difference. The biggest issue with sinktube really is it's not good for structural support since the tube isn't thick enough or strong enough to give a solid thread for your screws. Plus once you cut away the material it will flex. It's only really good when used as a fully surrounding tube or as decoration for a solid MHS hilt.
I suggest you buy a blade holder, double female extension cut into two, one for the BH and one for the pommel end, and a pommel. Use 1.25" OD tubing inside the MHS to join the two and then the MHS sleeve material over top where needed. It's not like we're saying you need to have it custom machined which would be expensive but you don't want to waste your time and money on something that doesn't work either. The sleeve material isn't much hard to cut then sinktube. Just take you time and work your way into it till you feel comfortable making closer cuts. You'll want a reinforced cutting wheel for your dremel as the cheaper cut off wheels are useless.
This would cost you roughly 80$ for all your MHS and aluminum tubing shipping included. Off the top of my head I'm guessing $280 more or less total for the WHOLE saber (not including blade and charger) which is really not much for what you want. the biggest investment is time to research, find parts, and build it. I doubt you could buy one built for less then $600.
Last edited by Crystal Chambers; 02-23-2011 at 09:24 AM.
I am going to take this and handle this both ways, if you care enough, you can quote me on which you were feeling...
WAY 1; Apathetic
That's fine if you are not building sabers anymore. I was not flaming you, simply giving you DIY advice. I am not going to spoonfeed you every piece of info you are wanting because if you spend a few hours searching you wouldn't have asked these questions. There are tons of reference pics to build a SK lightsaber.
The thing that gets me most is the way you are treating the PC, if you aren't even wanting to read the manual, I think you should get a hasbro, and save the life of the PC.
I, for one, will not be helping you anymore because you seem burnt out on this and just want someone to give to you on a silver platter. I don't view you any worse than I did, but I personally don't have time to do that. Even if I did, I may not, because if you want it enough, you should be willing to work for it.
WAY 2; Overwhelmed, doubting your abilities
Clearly, you are hesitant to take on this builld. With good reason too, because this design is rather difficult to pull of well. I highly reccomend you go through and read all the threads about the design, construction, and gallery threads on the SK lightsaber. THe more research you do, the easier it will be for you to make your own. I don't think you are quite ready to begin building yet IMO. Take a day or so, get your facts on paper, and you should be much more sure of yourself when you begin to build.
This is an expensive hobby, and you are going to make costly mistakes, but the end result is worth it everytime.
In regards to the PC, it truly angers me to see you talk about the board like that. this board is the greatest release since the MHS system IMO (other than the crystal focus). Please treat the board with the respect it deserves and do your reading on it. I would hate for one of these boards to be destroyed just because you were lazy and didn't want to do research on it.
Got a Question? There's a thread for that...
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SollusVir everywhere else... FXsabers, Youtube, etc...
Card Collector makes some very insightful and valid points.....I will stress that the build threads and gallery posts of other SK sabers will give you more insight and confidence. I even found some youtube clips of someone describing his SK build in detail.
I don't mean to flame you by saying this but seeing as you've been a member here since 2009 (7 months before me) some of us would expect by now that you would have more answers to some of your questions and more insight into what is involved in this hobby. You obviously have enough interest to keep you coming back all this time so I say if you want it bad enough then do the research needed, budget, save, work on it piece by piece and before you know it you'll have something you'll be proud of and enjoy for a long time.
Last edited by Crystal Chambers; 02-23-2011 at 09:42 AM.
I for one think you could pull off a great "starkiller type" (but who wants a crappy replica anyway right?) saber with a nice large crystal reveal section.. it will tend on the longer side but will look cool..
My idea is entirely different from everyone else.. how about we DO use the sink tube.. but as shroud material ONLY(as its generally used these days), find an "inner pipe".. cut out the crystal reveal section... cut the shroud to be the outer pieces (similar to SK saber)... yeah.. your following me now right.. you will need to plan for a smaller ID but it will be a stronger since the inner pipe will be one piece and should definately have the look your after. I hope this helps
EDIT!: and also you know that the starkiller design itself is NOT durable for more then mock dueling.. no matter who made it.. its just not solid like an obi.. and depending on how much you spend on it, you definately should NOT duel with it
Last edited by dgdve; 02-23-2011 at 10:16 AM.
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I don't think you can compare yourself and JMG based on time on the forum. You have more general experiance and a differing skill level and desire to create.
There are people who want to design and build and have the resources and those that don't but want very much to.
I do agree however that touching a PC before you're ready will be a bad thing. I've soldered and desoldered a few cheapie boards but would still be very, very careful with a PC. To waste one by frying it, would be a massive waste. And just because they're being produced on a ongoing, regular basis doesn't mean we can be flippant with them.
Design the SK on paper first, gather materials and parts slowly, redesign or refine and then put it together slowly. You'll be surprised what you can do yourself.
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Anakin: " I thought I already did"
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