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PhotonAlterations blade
has anyone else seen this saber: http://cgi.ebay.com/Graflex-lightsab...QQcmdZViewItem.
does anyone know anything about it? it is much brighter than a luxeon
and looks to be very evenly lit.i wasn't sure where to put this, so i put it here because it seems to be new technology, or at least a new idea.
i am a nerd, if you don't like it, i will cut you with my lightsaber
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sure you could dual with it...and have all the leds go out just like a MR blade. I wouldn't buy it.
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Well..I would like to see how durable it really is since it has multiple LED's in the blade.
The picture of it next to the luxeon..notice how the luxeon has no blume at all? and no glow coming off of it? wierd
Has anyone seen them post on the forums? I googled photon alterations and came up with nothing.
Tim
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i wasn't even considering buying it, i am almost broke because of a force fx mod i am working on. and i thought that it might have problems with breaking the lights when dueling. i just wondered how it was made and stuff, thought it might be a good way to go because it looks quite bright.
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I think it's nothing. If anything it's what Hyperdyne is already doing. A string of 1Ws wouldn't be that durable. Hah, I realize looking at the other auctions of the seller. This is the same one that claimed to pioneer luxeons... If it's so great he wouldn't be peddling it on ebay. He'd be getting capital to start a business.
Besides those pictures are fishy. The no blume on the comparison is odd and the first one smacks of being rotoscoped. It seems the flare doesn't start exactly at the base and the coloring of the carpet has me convinced it's been photoshopped.
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Now the page doesn't come up at all, at least your link to it Suit_man....Maybe someone shut him down (ebay) http://www.hometown.aol.com/jedisith.../lolhammer.gif
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Link by item number, it works better:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=6597178524
Those pics are *odd* to say the least. In one pic the saber has a flare at the base and in the other it doesn't. That Luxeon has no flare at all. I'm not going to accuse anyone of anything, but the pics are unusual and the seller doesn't explain much about the blade.
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so you think its the same guy i showed a link to before and asked opinions about it?
You dont know the POWER, of the dark side...
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maybe we could wait till the auction ends and then someone can e-mail the person who won and ask about it. they would be likely to tell the truth about it and not build it up to be something more than what it is.
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This guy keeps changing his user ID, hmmmm.......
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I've been reading his feedback from his buyers, they seem pleased.
This maybe of interest, he's selling a 15mw 635nm laser MR FX Lightsaber
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...Pr4_PcY_BIN_IT
He's got a butload of other Saber stuff for sale http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZphotonalterations http://members.aol.com/JEDISITHLORD/images/thinking.gif
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This guy keeps changing his user ID, hmmmm.......
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Hes been doing that for the past year :P and has other accounts on ebay as well that he keeps changing also
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There's something fishy about someone always changing their ID's and who have multiple ID's. As someone said, contact the person who buys the saber and see what they think.
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i think you guys are right, somethins just not quite kosher with this guy.
You dont know the POWER, of the dark side...
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It looked to me from his above and below picture that his above pic, his "LED" blade has a wave pattern in it, much like a double strand EL blade we've seen picures of here. I've never seen anyones LED saber go 2 tone like that. Also his Photon saber with a blue blade causes the carpeting underneath to show pink? How does that ever happen? Can you say doctored boys and girls....
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Exactly the carpet color is a dead give away that the flare was added using a photoshop type feature. It causes over (or under, I forget) saturation of the color. It's like adding artificial lens flare. Otherwise I'd say the others it looks like a plain white LED similar to scaarmor's that he recently posted.
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Hey! Just what are ya tryin to say X-wing! LOL[:D]. I cannot see the different colors you guys are talking about (colorblind), But even so just looking at the base of the saber you can tell its fudged with. I dont think you have to wait and talk to someone who buys one to see its quality, obviously its creator wasnt even pleased with its quality. If you have to doctor your photos to get your product to sell, its definitely not worth buying.
Cain
***It is now that we battle.When you die, await my arrival in the afterlife where we will battle again.Perhaps there you may have the ability to defeat me,but not here,not now,not this day.So let us part with words and embrace the blade.***
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by scaarmor
Hey! Just what are ya tryin to say X-wing! LOL[:D]. I cannot see the different colors you guys are talking about (colorblind), But even so just looking at the base of the saber you can tell its fudged with. I dont think you have to wait and talk to someone who buys one to see its quality, obviously its creator wasnt even pleased with its quality. If you have to doctor your photos to get your product to sell, its definitely not worth buying.
Cain
***It is now that we battle.When you die, await my arrival in the afterlife where we will battle again.Perhaps there you may have the ability to defeat me,but not here,not now,not this day.So let us part with words and embrace the blade.***
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No implications...[;)] Just was giving a point of comparison for why I think it looks like just a plain white LED.[:D]
Curious... do you just see it as a grayscale or do you just associate the tones that you see with what you've been taught as what each color is? Not being able to see your saber color seems a pretty bum deal to me...[:(]
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">...or do you just associate the tones that you see with what you've been taught as what each color is? Not being able to see your saber color seems a pretty bum deal to me...[:(]
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I'm (largely) partially colourblind also, and that's pretty much what I have learned to do. And lots of lucky guessing.
Yeah, it sucks.
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"JUST -a plain white LED", oh I see how it is, thats it X-wing I'm comin for ya. But since I cant afford the gas to travel, I'll be shipping myself UPS. And since I cant afford the 3 day shipping I'll have to ship myself 5-7 day which means I will be there in about two weeks. And since they beat the crap out of their boxes and thats a long time without food- I want food and water when I get there-then we'll start the a@# whippins!LOL-just kidding[:D][:D][:D]!
As for my colorblindness, I do not see in greyscale. I see colors its just that quite a lot of them look the same i.e.-Green/brown -blue/purple- pink/white- navy blue/black- etc.,etc. I learned very quickly in school that I had a problem. Keep in mind this was still back when instead of a helping hand you got repremanded for coloring the tree trunk green and leaves brown. Anyway, I trained myself while young to tell the colors apart by shades, at least as they appear to me. Like brown is a shade darker than green- purple than blue- pink than white. But when colors are blended together (such as the saber in question) it is hard for me to tell the color(s) apart because they gradually blend together and I cant see where the shades change.
Cain
***It is now that we battle.When you die, await my arrival in the afterlife where we will battle again.Perhaps there you may have the ability to defeat me,but not here,not now,not this day.So let us part with words and embrace the blade.***
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I man, I cracked up reading that.[:D] I'm on a college campus too so sometimes it takes a few extra days for the Campus mail system to get it to me or notify me that I have an oversize package waiting at the office. You'd be in there for quite a while![:D]
Hmmm... I never knew the word plain could elicit such a response.[:0][;)]
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Scaarmor - that's exactly what my color-blindedness is like. I sometimes even have problems with pink/grey, and red/brown. There is a certain shade of (grey) overcast clouds, that look pink to me.
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This is a copy and paste quote from this action:
"By now you probably know all about the luxeon blades these days as we introduced this concept a few years ago."
-photonalterations
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...3299%26fvi%3D1
When will Corbin or Tim lay the smackdown? [}:)]
Lightsaber Warning Label: "CAUTION: Do NOT attempt to sharpen blade."
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I think it's nothing. If anything it's what Hyperdyne is already doing.
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Will someone please tell me what Hyperdyne is doing?
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I think it's nothing. If anything it's what Hyperdyne is already doing.
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Will someone please tell me what Hyperdyne is doing?
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He's using luxeons inside the blade very similar to what MR does but with the higher power luxeons. Google his business (Hyperdyne Labs, I don't want to put a link). Check out his forums for the latest news.
From the description of the orginal auction he makes it out as that is what he did too, but as you can tell we think it's a bit fishy.
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As far as the first thing on eBay you guys were discussing---didn't he already sell one of those? I seem to remember our good friend Corbin bidding on it. Maybe it was somebody else altogether. [?][?][?]
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He sold a few normal LED sabers from viewing his record (one that came up here too), but none that were these "photon alteration" blades.
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Has anyone seen the sabers that are in
http://www.advanced-light.com/index.asp?id=2
that site ?
Because the claims this site makes about some sort of crystal core technology and its comparison to led light system is very iffy .
But i did find the hilt's that this person constructs to be very ornate , yet a bit odd none the less . Any ways I still wonder about the crystal core technology and it's ties to saberology technology .
Other than that I'm just not sure about its worth .
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Has anyone seen the sabers that are in
http://www.advanced-light.com/index.asp?id=2
that site ?
Because the claims this site makes about some sort of crystal core technology and its comparison to led light system is very iffy .
But i did find the hilt's that this person constructs to be very ornate , yet a bit odd none the less . Any ways I still wonder about the crystal core technology and it's ties to saberology technology .
Other than that I'm just not sure about its worth .
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Advance-light and saberology are working together now. They haven't merged sites yet but they are together. From what I've heard and seen from them I think they use sideglow in the hilt to tranfer the light until the opening in the emitter. They make some nice hilts but you'll be paying out the wazoo.
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I dont have the money to put down for one of those. But what of this crystal core technology ? Could we or possibly I try to duplicate a similiar result using LED's ? I'm still very confused because I'm not done reading through these post's and I have yet to build my first Lightsaber that doesnt consist of a child's toy one taken apart and screwed with to make it easier to wield , because you see , I have always had small hands . My next two Lightsaber's I hope to create are to be for my two brother's . More or less me showing them the options and letting them decide on their own how it will look in the end .
But still my question remains . Does this crystal core technology really work better than LED's
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I dont have the money to put down for one of those. But what of this crystal core technology ? Could we or possibly I try to duplicate a similiar result using LED's ? I'm still very confused because I'm not done reading through these post's and I have yet to build my first Lightsaber that doesnt consist of a child's toy one taken apart and screwed with to make it easier to wield , because you see , I have always had small hands . My next two Lightsaber's I hope to create are to be for my two brother's . More or less me showing them the options and letting them decide on their own how it will look in the end .
But still my question remains . Does this crystal core technology really work better than LED's
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He is using LEDs. I suspect "crystal core technology" is his fancy term for how he transfers the light from the LED to the emitter (which I mentioned before and speculate is a type of sideglow cable). His blades aren't really that special. Compare them to ultrasabers.com or the store here itself for reference.
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As xwingband stated, it is very likely sideglow fiber optic cable is inside the polycarbonate blade.
Here is the comercial hype one supplier says about their sideglow cable -
"Utilizing a recently perfected production process called continuous casting, Sideglow solid cable can now give off brilliant color clarity and a continuous bright light transmission that was not possible in earlier solid CORE fibers. A CRYSTAL clear Teflon sleeve gives high intensity brightness along the entire length of the optic cable."
I think Saberology got their "Crystal Core" idea from the quote above.
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I've never particularly liked the tone they deal with other saber builders either. They've had problems with "accidently" using Ultra's pics. They state they're going to make themselves known to the world, revolutionize the saber world, and other pompous claims. I don't know where he's pulling the money from because as far as I've seen he doesn't sell much, but he's stopping his business to go into "R&D" and has long claimed he will be having the best sound module around. He even has consulted lawyers because he thinks he'll get big enough that Lucas will try to sue him like Parks and Lightech...[:o)]
On his blades though: That blurb certainly gives some credence to the idea that they use sideglow. I've been curious to it's uses though. I'm not sure they use it for the whole blade. I've seen the pics that have it flare a few inches from the LED which he claimed demonstarted his "light transmission" technology (sideglow?) yet I've also heard some that have seen the blades in person say that they can flex like a fencing foil.
This has me quite confused. Sideglow in the hilt makes sense to me, but the other claim has me wondering. I've heard from Corbin though that sideglow is good but the closest diameter doesn't fit well in any tube being off by a few mm which causes it to rattle in the blade.
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Hmm......I looked into trying (side-emitting) fibre-optics last summer, and the stuff I found was crazy expensive. Needless to say, I never bought any to test.
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Hello,
I just googled some info on side emmiting fiber optics as I hadnt heard of it before. From what I gather it doesnt look as bright as LED but that might have just been the pics I saw. It also said "two standard diameter of 19.3mm & 25.5mm" unless I am reading my converion chart wrong, wouldnt that make them to thick to fit into the polyc tubes? I also saw that they need a generator to run, small it was but not near as small as it would need to be to fit in a hilt.
Edit- I just found a site selling it in 1/2" dia. so I guess you can find it thinner, but at $7.50 per foot not including the generator unit- FORGET THAT! Tim with his EL wire and Luxeon LEDs has the market cornered for brightness and affordabilty.
Cain
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Tim's 1 inch OD polycarb tubes have an ID of 3/4 inch. Most 3/4 inch OD polycarb tubes I have seen and worked with have an ID of 5/16 inch. The closest fit I have seen for solid core side glow is 1/2 inch dia. At best, this would give 1/32 of space between the inside wall of a 3/4 polycarb tube and the fiber optic cable. This would explain the rattle.
But since we are dealing with luxeon, I figure a 1 inch OD polycarb would be prefered. That would mean a 1/8 inch of space all around the fiber optic cable and the inside wall of the polycarb tube. Plus, it would also mean a thin glowing blade.
I guess this could be fixed by using Gelu's clear film idea to fill the space between the fiber optic and the polycarb.
About the flare at the base of the blade in Saberology's pictures. Here is a picture of a Luxeon Driver designed for fiber optic use.
http://www.geocities.com/projectstm/temp/Novab2.jpg
As you can see from the picture, the sideglow fiber optic cable has flare right where it connects into the "illuminator" - that's what they call it in the fiber optic market. The illuminator is called the NovaBright and uses Luxeon 3 LEDs. It is specifically designed to give a tight interface between the cable the the illuminator thus reducing side spill of light.
For our purposes the "illuminator" would be our hilts. The interface would not be as good as the NovaBright so there will be a lot of side spill = large flare.
I'm willing to try making one. It's just gonna have to wait a few months due to high cost. One thing is for sure, I can make it for a lot less than the 90 bucks saberology is asking for.
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I understand the topic much more due to your explaination , thankyou .
I think that tim's price's are definitely the best when it comes to affordability and function . though I have never seen one . But I think his LED kit is exactly what Iam looking for for now . I just want something impressive and functioning , and the brightness of it can be brighter ,but it only needs to be enough to captivate the imagination of my 11 and 13 year old brother's . For me of course , Im less picky .I was'nt even thinking of having my saber being lit . simply a colored acryllic blade , because I think I would ruin it . But you never know . I just need to start .
Anyways thank you guys for elaborating on the subject for me .
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I won a advanced light/saberology saber on ebay, and just got it Monday. I have to say that the hilt is what makes the saber. I'm really not all that impressed with my blade though. It't nice and light in weight and more of the width of a 3/4 el blade. Honestly, its not as bright as the MR FX conversion I had done from Ultra. There is really nothing inside the blade that differs from others I've seen. Just a mirror tip at the top and film around the inside. I'm not sure if there is something inside the hilt near the led to make a difference.
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Would you be opposed to telling us how that blade is even remotly duelable. Hyperdyne is working on the LEDs in the blade and is keeping it all hush, hush...
P.S. if those pics aren't edited get a new camera because it's a POS[:p][;)]
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This is phosphor coatings like what they do on neon tubes to change the colors? What would be the light source? Still LEDs?
I believe I've seen that picture already somewhere...
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