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Zhi-don

05-23-2006, 07:08 AM

I am getting close to finishing my lightsaber, but I have a question for all of you.

I need a paint, dye, stain, something....to coat my grip area in black. I know anodizing is the best, but I have no idea where to go for that. I heard that epoxy paint is good, but I don't know where to get it. Any thoughts? Ideas? A little help, please???

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xwingband

05-23-2006, 07:14 AM

Black epoxy paint shouldn't be that hard to find. It could be billed as appliance paint. I picked mine up at Lowes and I think it was one of their specific brands, American Traditions.

Many also like rhinolining which is a paint for truck beds. I've never personally used it but I believe that one has more of a texture.

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informalmyx

05-23-2006, 07:16 AM

well anodizein can bee done at home (alot of chemical work) paint can be nice but will wear over time and unless a abrasive added tot he paint it wont stick all that much i would suggest the rhino truck lining i think Ultra uses it on his padawan saber

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james3

05-23-2006, 07:42 AM

With Firebirds tutorial and a can of appliance or bedliner paint you will get great results.

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Do-Clo

05-23-2006, 07:49 AM

I have used the truck bed liner spray which you can picK up at any auto parts store or wally world and it does a nice job just mask off everything you don't want coated and the stuff is tough.

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Zhi-don

05-23-2006, 10:30 AM

Thank you gentlemen.

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Zhi-don

05-23-2006, 10:38 AM

I can't find Firebirds tutorial....please advise.

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05-23-2006, 10:40 AM

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Zhi-don

05-23-2006, 11:52 AM

Thanks. I do know how to paint...LOL

I used to paint C141's and C5A's when I was in the service. It was more of a question on what to use for this specific purpose. Things have changed a lot in the paint world since the 70's.....sigh...

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Firebird21

05-23-2006, 12:01 PM

You may want to look into Powder-Coating. (Basically baking plastic onto the part) It's very durable. Only problem is finding someone that does it.

If you want something cheaper, I'd suggest the Spray-on bed liner. I've never tried it, but I've seen some good results, provided you get a good brand.

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Zhi-don

05-23-2006, 02:08 PM

As I am having Tim machine the grooves in hilt for the grip area, I'm not sure I want a textured finish. Powercoat sounds pretty good, I will check into it and see if it can be done and for how much. I will probably go with the epoxy, since it's got a smooth finish.

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Daj Nallig

05-23-2006, 05:47 PM

Master Zhi-Don, have you considered gun bluing? Here is a website if you are interested.

http://shootersolutions.com/vaningunblu.html

Mi Gin Gonn

05-23-2006, 05:58 PM

I've got a guy at a auto body shop I deliver parts to that's gonna hook me up with some stuff tomorrow to finish off my S5. It's some kind of spray-on hard plastic that you can then paint and apply a final sealer coat. He was talking about putting the hilt into one of their bays where they bake on paint, and I was like, "eh, nah, I don't wanna melt the electronics." So I'll let you guys know how it goes. If it doesn't work, I'm gonna get some of the truck bed liner spray and try that.

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Firebird21

05-23-2006, 06:11 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Mi Gin Gonn

I've got a guy at a auto body shop I deliver parts to that's gonna hook me up with some stuff tomorrow to finish off my S5. It's some kind of spray-on hard plastic that you can then paint and apply a final sealer coat. He was talking about putting the hilt into one of their bays where they bake on paint, and I was like, "eh, nah, I don't wanna melt the electronics." So I'll let you guys know how it goes. If it doesn't work, I'm gonna get some of the truck bed liner spray and try that.
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Sounds like Powder-Coating to me.

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Mi Gin Gonn

05-23-2006, 06:18 PM

It's probably very similar, but he called it something else. Can't remember off the top of my head.

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GFORCE13

05-24-2006, 01:07 AM

Powdercoating works great I did all my wheels on my Van (silver) 5 years ago and often go off roading and they still look like brand new wheels, no chips, flakes or nothing. I think the main reason why is the process virtually bonds the paint as if it has become part of the metal.[8D]
There are also a couple of reasonable Powder Coating shops in the City of Orange on Batavia St.

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05-24-2006, 02:39 AM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Zhi-don

As I am having Tim machine the grooves in hilt for the grip area, I'm not sure I want a textured finish. Powercoat sounds pretty good, I will check into it and see if it can be done and for how much.training OCSWS
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05-24-2006, 06:20 AM

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Do-Clo

05-24-2006, 08:22 AM

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james3

05-24-2006, 08:24 AM

Heck No! [}:)][;)]

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Zhi-don

05-24-2006, 09:39 AM

Sure it is, she will find out later and remind you...and remind you...and remind you....and remind you....

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xwingband

05-24-2006, 10:10 AM

Well, we could all chip in for a special delivery with JLo's next order of saber parts. A pill... consisting of the compound chill.[:p]

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NooB1Kenobi

05-24-2006, 11:02 AM

What about that paint with sand or whatever in it? Would that work? It works on our steps. It's good for grip so why not on a hilt.

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james3

05-24-2006, 01:29 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by NooB1Kenobi

What about that paint with sand or whatever in it? Would that work? It works on our steps. It's good for grip so why not on a hilt
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That would work fine so long as the metal was roughed up well, although I would think the latex version may not work to well.

It is tough to beat the truckbed spray though since it is made for the metal and serious abuse.

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Zhi-don

05-24-2006, 03:23 PM

I need it to be smooth to show the machining that Tim is lovingly doing. I don't want that covered by a thick coating. Epoxy paint seems to be the way to go, if I can't either find a place that anodizes or powdercoats. Unless someone else has an idea.

Thanks all for your help.

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james3

05-24-2006, 05:30 PM

For what you want the gunbluing is a great idea and it's not to hard to do.

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LAN-ED-TUL

05-24-2006, 11:21 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by james3

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by NooB1Kenobi

What about that paint with sand or whatever in it? Would that work? It works on our steps. It's good for grip so why not on a hilt
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That would work fine so long as the metal was roughed up well, although I would think the latex version may not work to well.

It is tough to beat the truckbed spray though since it is made for the metal and serious abuse.

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you got that right. i used that stuff a while back and posted the great results i got from using it on pvc grips. as long as you round off all corners and edges the stuff stays on really well.

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GFORCE13

05-25-2006, 12:58 AM

Gunbluing now there is a good idea, I have done it before easy and durable, why didn't I think o that.[:p]

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Zhi-don

05-25-2006, 06:16 AM

Ok....gun blueing. Can you give me more info on how to go about either getting this done or doing it myself?

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james3

05-25-2006, 06:37 AM

You can do it yourself no problem. Most sportinggoods stores that have a gun section should carry the bluing kit. It is pretty much a wipe on kinda deal, so long as your not clumsy it's not really messy. I spilled a whole bottle over my work bench about 12 years ago[;)]

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ryanlb

05-25-2006, 03:59 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by james3
It is tough to beat the truckbed spray though since it is made for the metal and serious abuse.
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This sounds like a good idea, but what if I get I get it someplace I don't want it, or I decide I don't like it - can it be removed?

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xwingband

05-25-2006, 04:02 PM

With a lot of elbow grease[:p]... and sandpaper.

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