HyperBlade Review

[lingarn]

Greetings.

As some of you are aware, a gentleman known as Hyperdyne recently released his HyperBlade system for lightsaber construction.

The qualities of this system have been a subject of great interest and debate, so I have decided to share my observations of the system thus far.

I have purchased the red LED boards for the blade, the DualCore blade kit, the controller board, rechargable batteries, and a battery recharger. This review will focus primarily upon the first three items, although the last two do have a somewhat important role.

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Interactions with HyperDyne:

Hyperdyne was courteous in my direct communications with him, and responded to e-mails within a day or two, usually faster. I asked fairly large number of questions, and they were all answered.

Shipping:

Shipping for the first parcel (blade kit, electronics) was at my door 1 week after the order was placed. (Note: No signature was required for delivery; you may be able to change this, upon request). Shipping for the second parcel (the charger) was at my door in less than a week.

Instructions:

With the electronics came a CD with instructions about how to assemble the blade, where to attach the electronics, etc. The instructions had pictures that covered most things, and I was able to figure out anything that wasn’t explicitly shown from the text provided.

Construction:

Some assembly was required; in order to use the blade, I first had to cut foam strips (foam provided in the kit) and tape them around each LED array. Then I had to tape the edges of the LED arrays together, to decrease the space (and visible gaps) between them. Finally, I had to lift up the LEDs facing the gaps to increase the amount of light they threw over the gap (attempting to decrease the remaining visibility of the gaps).

The dual-core blade consisted of a small OD diffuser tube that the wrapped LED arrays fit snugly into and a 1” OD diffuser tube that serves as the exterior of the blade. To reiterate, there are three layers of diffusion between the LEDs and the eye – two tubes, and the foam wrap. The tubes were a little long for my taste, so I cut them down a few inches, and glued the acrylic hemisphere (provided) to the end. I also chose to wrap some clear tape around the bottom of the inner tube to reduce its movement inside the larger tube.

Overall, the instructions were sufficient that construction was easy. As long as you have scissors, tape, and a reasonably strong glue, construction won’t be an issue. Most of it depends on the way in which you choose to house the LED boards in the blade.

Brightness:

The brightness of the blade, when assembled, was initially quite disappointing. Here, I show a comparison shot with a MR blade and a 3-watt luxeon saber. The MR is stock, the luxeon uses a single-wrap of Corbin’s blade film for the diffuser (blade assembled by Corbin).

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You can see in the image that the brightness of the blade is not really that great; it is considerably brighter than the MR, and for the last 50-60% of the length of the blade it is brighter than the luxeon, but this was not a stunning difference. It is bright, but not as bright as the available media related to the HyperBlade system had led me to expect.

At the time that picture was taken, I had not yet received the charger for my rechargeable batteries. The batteries stopped functioning after a short period of time, indicating that they were almost entirely drained at the time of that picture.

After charging my batteries, the overall impression changed considerably.

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You can see that the Hyperblade is now considerably brighter than the luxeon for the majority of the blade, and in person, the luxeon only appears to be as bright (or brighter) for the first couple of inches out of the emitter. (The line added in the second picture represents about where that impression ends.)

Perhaps in part because of my initial disappointment lowering my expectations, I was quite pleased with the overall brightness of the blade once the batteries were charged. It also holds up fairly well in direct daylight (shown with 2 luxeons and a stock MR, on an admittedly cloudy day).

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Flicker:

I have no movies to show for the flicker effect, but I observed the following.

The slowest flicker is really more of a throbbing pulse. It makes the red blade more ominous. The fastest flicker setting makes me feel a little sick if I look at it for more than a few seconds. This may not be the case for others.

All of the flickers are distinguishable from each other, and I imagine it will be a matter of personal preference for each user.

Future:

Beyond the kit/blade assembly, I currently intend to try and put the saber into a MHS hilt. The blade fits snugly into Strydur’s emitter for the 1.5’ sink tube, so this should be fine. I will update the review when I have tested this more extensively. I also intend to acquire the sound/amp combination, and may update this review with observations.

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Since I haven't put my blade into a hilt yet, I obviously have been unable to test the veracity of the dueling claims.

Summary:

Hyperdyne provided me with prompt responses and swift delivery.

The Hyperblade is much brighter than an MR blade, and for most of the blade is a fair bit brighter than a luxeon 3-watt. Different diffusers may increase the overall brightness of the luxeon in the future, but the same can be said for the Hyperblade – the one thing that still bugs me is that even through three layers of diffusion, the LEDs are still somewhat distinguishable as individuals. The slow pulse is kind of nice. The extention/retraction work fine, and look about the same as the MR.

The question of whether or not it is worth the money, I have the following thoughts.

For the lightsaber enthusiast, who spends hundreds of dollars anyway, it will make a neat addition to your collection, and you may be able to use it with your favorite hilt.

For someone who is on a tight budget and simply wants a bright saber, I would not advise this system. If you aren’t dueling, then either a hardware hilt for your belt or a MR FX for display are both more cost effective options. If you are dueling, then a tight budget would make me recommend a luxeon saber, simply because there are no electronics in the blade. Breaking a luxeon blade is no big deal, but breaking a Hyperblade blade could cost hundreds of dollars to replace.

In general, I am happy with my purchase.

If there is anything I have failed to mention, or errors in any information I have posted, please let me know.

Lingarn

[xwingband]

Hmm... deja vu. I just read this on TFN.[:p]

Pretty darn through review and exactly what I expected. What are the luxeons running off of? Corbin's board, Hasbro, Resistor?

I'd like to see a one on one against a 5W but not many have one of those.

(BTW sidenote Hi Hyperdyne! *waves*[:X])

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[lingarn]

Greetings!

The luxeon in the image is running on a resistor alone, with fresh batteries.

I would also love to put it head to head with a 5W; however, since 5W LEDs don't appear to be available in red (at least, not on the saber sites), it would mean I would have to get an entirely new HyperBlade, 5W Luxeon, and that I'd have to finish the green or blue 3W I have, but haven't put together yet.

While I can't rule that out in the future, I think it would be wise to finish the sabers I have first. [;)]

For what its worth, I've been told that the red HyperBlade is the dimmest of the three.

Lingarn

[LAN-ED-TUL]

well i agree with him on the fact that hyper,(Jim), was extremelly nice and courteous, and fast to answer my multitude of questions i asked before i bought his voice system. which is super nice and the absolute closest thing ive heard to date, to make me sound like vader.

and i think, really noones blastin the brightness aspect on his blades, they are very bright, the main thing thats being discussed, and not clear yet, is the dueling issue. once he gets it mounted and all, he can try at differing levels of hittin, (hardness), and see how it holds up.

thats really the 1 million dollar question.

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[todd4566]

Great review. Did you also get the Hyperdyne sound board? I hear it has some fantastic sounds. I was also very interested in going the Hyperdyne route, but I simply can't afford the $360 kit price. I selected a 5w Luxeon as my alternative, and will post pics up once I receive it.

[O-B 1]

I purchased a blade kit from HyperDyne. He does respond extremely fast. I've done light and heavy sparring with the blades. I took it to class.(I'm a fencer, so are the people who are in my class...) They don't break as easily as MRs. But there was that one fellow who dueled just a little too enthusiatically. (kinda like Luke vs DV in TOTJ) The few LEDs at the top broke, and the cap flew off. The rest still operated perfectly. I think that the blades can withstand a lot of punishment. But if you duel with the intention of breaking the blade, you most certainly will break the blade.

Just my 2 cents.

"There is no try, only do"

-Jedi Master Yoda

[xwingband]

Well unless he replaces the strip that's a lot of money down the toilet...[xx(]

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[Jedi Ranger]

Hmmmmm.......that sucks.

Well, just confirms with me, that NOBODY it touching my Hyperdyne when it gets here.

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[xwingband]

Where's the fun if you can't duel.[:p]

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[lingarn]

Ouch...

Good to know!

Given that the fencers I fenced with had a propensity towards breaking our practice weapons (I was armorer at the time [:(] ), you are a braver man than I.

Let us know how repairs (if you choose to do them) go! [:D]

Lingarn

[O-B 1]

Um.... Repairs cost like 150! [xx(] Just to replace that little bit at the top! Not a good deal at all. Jim does have bright blades, but they come at a very steep price. (No pun intended) I should have just bought a 5 watt or something from Tim... Haven't been in contact with him at all... should drop him a line any time soon. HyperDyne blades are fun to look at or to give your collection a little bit more flair. But serious, Luke vs DV dueling is not recommended.

The person who broke it offered to pay 2/3 of the replacement cost.

"There is no try, only do"

-Jedi Master Yoda

[Nightwing]

Hmm... interesting...

Yeah, the Hyper Blades sure do appear to be a heckuva lot brighter, but at the cost of dueling (and the vast majority of your wallet).

So... we're sticking to Luxeons at this point, eh?

[O-B 1]

Hmm... Jim offered to fix it for 80. Not worth it. I am just going to get a 5 watt. Than we will see whether the hyperblade is better or not.

"There is no try, only do"

-Jedi Master Yoda

[the_steve]

From those pics, it looks like the joints where one LED array starts and the other ends is pretty noticable. Are they that noticable in real life?

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Um.... Repairs cost like 150! [xx(] Just to replace that little bit at the top! Not a good deal at all. Jim does have bright blades, but they come at a very steep price. (No pun intended) I should have just bought a 5 watt or something from Tim... Haven't been in contact with him at all... should drop him a line any time soon. HyperDyne blades are fun to look at or to give your collection a little bit more flair. But serious, Luke vs DV dueling is not recommended.

The person who broke it offered to pay 2/3 of the replacement cost.

"There is no try, only do"

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O-B 1,

Do you have pics of your broken Hyperblade?

Mark Cheng

[Kyp Durron]

Yeah, I would like to see pics of this as well.

-Kyp

[xwingband]

Mark, thanks for actually signing your name and using a familiar handle. At least I know it's you instead of Hyper lurking here. ([:X])

Do not turn this into a who's not lying and not thread.[;)]

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[Strydur]

Hyper/Jim can come visit and read the forums all he wants. When it comes to other vendors all I want to see is comments about the products and not the person.

Tim
The Custom Saber Shop

[LAN-ED-TUL]

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[Jedibum]

Oh Tim :), you had me at "visit and read" ... or was it "all I want to see", I can't remember.

Hey, I know some people have been interested to see a comparison between Hyperdyne's blade and a 5 watt ... I ordered some more parts including a Blue 5 watt from Tim recently ( which he shipped very promptly ... very cool that he gets the orders out so quickly, Thank You Tim! Best saber shop in town! ) ... anyway ... as soon as I get my Blue 5 watt and my Blue Hyperdyne blade all hooked up I'll take some comparison shots ... I guess I'll post them here since it's a Hyperdyne review thread ... unless someone thinks I should post it somewhere else ... let me know.

[xwingband]

I'd like to see a non-corbin's film comparison too. Corbin's film isn't the best for making it seem the brightest. Gelu's comparison shows that, his polyp diffuser looked might bright.

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[lingarn]

Greetings!

I have the parts to make one of Tim's blades. I can do that comparison as soon as I get the blade together.

With respect to a question asked earlier: The joints are fairly visible in person. This could be entirely my fault, but part of putting the boards into the blade involves folding the wires that connect them so that the space between boards is minimized. It is also recommended that you lift the LEDs that face the gap up a little, to try and throw more light into the empty space.

So when I say my fault, what I mean is, that process may not have been done as well as others may do.

And now, back to your regularly scheduled programming.

Lingarn

[DACOTA]

i recently e-mailed hyperdyne becuase they have a chart comparing thier sabers to luxeon led and tim they didnt do it justice their chart says that leds only have duelability.but he did not put a check mark in the clash effect and the coring,but if you hook up a corbin board it does have a good clash and lock up and coring if you use a momentary switch.but they were all it does not have true scrolling effect,thats true but who cares its pretty good for a led,then he said that it his clash is better since it is really fast pace from his design he made,whatever screw them tims led sabers are good enough for me.they may not be as bright but now tim has those 5 watt leds so we'll see.

"aaah general kenobi you are a bold one."-general grievous

[Jedibum]

I don't think they should put a check mark next to clash effect and coring for leds. I think that comparison chart is pretty accurate. I have EL sabers, tons of LED sabers (many 3w colors, White and Blue 5w colors) and now a Hyperdyne saber ... and my friend just recently installed a corbins board in his led saber... and it looks really cool ... until the hyperdyne goes on next to it ... and then the coring, clash effect and lock up start to look like nothing is even happening next to hyperdynes. The reason I love LED sabers is because they are able to give off at least equal (or better) brightness than MR sabers and you can duel with them without worry and you can remove the blade and use them as awesome props. But to try and compare a coring, clash, or lock-up effect with a type of saber that has lighting in the blade is just not a fair fight. Obviously any saber that has lighting in the blade has a serious advantage in that category. Every type of saber has it's own good points and bad ... and for these things you just have to concede that single LED's just don't do them well ... at least not when compared with a saber that has little leds up the blade. We need to remember what makes LED sabers awesome and not try and compare them to sabers that have a serious advantage in certain categories. Compared to my Hyperdyne, LED sabers are still the best to duel with and the easiest to use as far as popping blades in and out easily. They are better and brighter (in my opinion) than MR sabers, and they are really fun to make without being really expensive (although it seems I am spending more and more money on Tim's stuff ... more than anything else I think lol). But compared to hyperdyne you might as well not even mention that leds can clash, core, or lock-up because hyperdyne blows them away.

Choose your battles well, do not rush to fight a battle you have already lost.

[DACOTA]

i couldnt agree with you more thier is no comparison but leds are in my favor but i still think they should change the list,but i wont buy from them so it does not matter.

"aaah general kenobi you are a bold one."-general grievous

[O-B 1]

Sorry, no pics. Its just like a MR FX really. The few leds on the top broke. There is a blank spot. The light from the other leds kinda cover it, but its still noticable as a dim spot.

"There is no try, only do"

-Jedi Master Yoda

[shiky]

arite ob1, i was gonna let it slide, but that quote in your profile is just wrong. the quote is "no, try not. do, or do not. There is no try."

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[Jedibum]

O-B 1 ... I gotta call you out man. I have a hyperdyne blade and I was speaking to Jim about repairs on it if anything happened to it (given that it is so expensive and I'm probably not going to be buying alot of them) and I mentioned what you had said earlier in the this post about your broken hyperblade and he said no one has ever contacted him about any broken blade and he has never heard of you before. He stated that he has never quoted anyone $80 for anything. Also, some of the other buyers have said they have had problems even due to them screwing around with the wires and trying things and they have broken it and he has repaired it for free. So before I put to much into anything you say I'm gonna need a picture of your broken hyperdyne blade. And yes it is similar to MR FX in concept.

[xwingband]

Like I said before please don't fight over this. Without having all the info from either side you could say "he's lying" about each other until pigs fly.

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[Jedibum]

Your right xwingband, I apologize ... I love Tims products and forum and I don't want to be the cause of a problem. Next time I will just ask for pics.

On topic: I just installed the Blue 5 Watt that I got from Tim ... it's awesome! Might be my favorite color to date ... not only is it SUPER bright ... but I think the number on that batch might have been close to Royal Blue because it's very Royal Blue looking. I was watching ROTS last night and compared it to the Dooku fight and it looked identical in color to Obi and Anakin's saber. I think I'm now addicted to Tim's 5 Watts ... need more! Tim, thank you! I've also got Tims sound so I'm gonna ATTEMPT to install that in the 5 Watt also. I will take some comparison pics of the Blue Hyperdyne Blade and the 5 watt Blue tonight and I'll post them on here.

[Strydur]

Back on track I think.. please keep it that way.

Tim
The Custom Saber Shop

[Jedibum]

Hi guys! I've got some comparison pics of a Blue 3 watt and a Blue 5 Watt ... and some comparions with a Hyperdyne. At the bottom of each pic I give a little info about each saber. Let me know what you guys think or if you want more pics of a particular saber or anything.

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[LAN-ED-TUL]

the hyper shot looks like theres dead spots in the blade.

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[xwingband]

Yeah, that's because of the spots inbetween the boards. That's seems quite distracting...

That is a good comparison though. Thanks for the pics. It seems those that like the flare will stick with it and those that like a uniform brightness will stick with one's like an MR or Hyper's.

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[Jedibum]

Yeah there are 2 spots that are a little dark. The blade is in 3 sections ... this contributes to it being much harder to damage than an MR but the down side is it can produce a couple of dark spots. You are supposed to fold the wires and push the boards together and use clear tape to tape them to help minimize the dark spots. And you can slightly lift the LED that is closest to the gap to help it spread as much light over the gap as possible. I'm sure Jim at Hyperdyne could do a much better job than I did ... I tried my best but I bet someone with more experience could make it look a lot better.

Also, apparently Jim/Hyperdyne is working on Generation 2 stuff. He says the Gen 2 Board and Battery pack will add a lot of brightness to the blade making it significantly brighter than it is now. And the Gen 2 blade will have more LEDs, and they are working on better defusion so that no gaps are visible. He also says everything will be interchangable, so if you don't want to buy a Gen 2 blade you can just buy a Gen 2 board and battery and it will make your Gen 1 blade brighter. I'm most interested in what he comes up with for defusion to get ride of any gaps and to make the individual LEDs less noticable.

[DACOTA]

that was off the hook im going to satrt building all of my sabers with the 5 watt leds ,if i can afford them,very nice pics.i dont like tose spaces between the hyper blade though.

"aaah general kenobi you are a bold one."-general grievous

[darthflan]

I was able to get rid of the 'Dim spots' by taping the sections together with clear tape. This is by far the bightest blade I have ever seen. I'm very happy with mine.

Flan

[todd4566]

I'm really interested in the Gen2 Hyperdyne stuff.. if the price ever comes down a bit I'll have to get one.

My collection:
02' MR Anakin AOTC
05' MR Anakin ROTS
05' MR Luke ROTJ
06' MR Maul TPM
MHS 5w Luxeon(RylBl/Grn)

EDITED:

YET ANOTHER post from Mark (aka thedisturbance)...

WingButt, Wingnut, and now masquerading as a girl? Let me save you the trouble and register the eventual handle "Xwingbandisadoodiehead".

Grow up and be gone.

[Do-Clo]

"Xwingbandisadoodiehead"
ROFLMAO[:p][:p][:p]
Sorry Xwing but the name cracked me up reminded me of second grade

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[LAN-ED-TUL]

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[james3]

Ya know I am sure there are a few folks on here that don't much care for me and that's fine but DANG! this is just stupid@$$ baby snitz like what I have to deal with out of my kids.

I am not sure who is this mark jackoff and how he is related to hyper but if the whole bunch is going to act like this here and on the other places we all seem to go to so there really isn't any big secrets, then why the hell would anyone want to do business? I have not been sitting around here for a long time but I have been around long enough to know that xwing is a standup guy and let's face it a good portion of us could consider him a kid but he has proven that he is not and while all of us may have our bad days and talk some smack or rub some one the wrong way, he has shown a lot more freakin matureity(Loreen dear,feel free to correct the damn spellings cause right now I'm tired and I'm bitchin so I don't care[;)][:p])then most of us in a few cases. I for one will never understand how in the heck someone who is trying to run a business wants to stir up crap all the time, xwing and hyper don't get along BIG FREAKIN DEAL! grow up and get over it on this board alone zhi-don and I have had disagreements as well as other folks have but ya don't see us getting all crappy with each other instead we respect each other and when need be agree to disagree on a point and move the heck on. Between this and some of the other crap I have seen the past few days it just really makes me think that it is going to do nothing but turn away business not just for hyper but possibly everyone.

(Deep breath)I have been laying flooring all afternoon and evening I am tired.

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[LAN-ED-TUL]

i was refering to calling hyperdyne, that name. not x-wing. i respect x-wing. and we all were just blowin steam at the way hyper is actin. HE is the one actin like a KID!!!


as far a business goes, i dont think its gonna hurt tim, ultra, or corbin one bit. for 1, we here all know them, and have seen their work, and their enlightnening things that have lead to improvements in our saber building. and now hyper is attackin do-clo too.

i dont know if this mark guy is the opne and same jim hyperdyne guy, but if not, he is a stooley for him at least. as i stated before, i got hypers vadervoice system, and its great, i never had any bad emails from him, never any problems at all, he was kind enough to provide me answers to any questions i had before i bought it from him.

now, the problem everyones havin with him is not the voice systems, its his claims on the saber blades. i dont know any more of them than what another forum member has posted his results of his blades.

and frankly i could care less about his blades. im happy with the setups i use now, with the luxeons. so Jim can keep his blades and do with them whatever he wants. i will always come here, and to ultra, and corbin, for my saber buildin supplies.
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You dont know the POWER, of the dark side...

[Do-Clo]

There is a focused effort to force one and only one persons stuff on everyone, by the way if your are reading[;)]. I am starting to feel like I am being watched, I hear voices[:p], sorry been a long day. Brothers it is time to pull up the draw bridge and fill the moat with gators, and heat up the oil pots, this mad man and his henchmen must be defeated to bring freedom to the saber builders of the world.
Oh well it sounded good anyway.

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[james3]

Lan please do not think I was directing that at you. Ya'll were having fun and I got a chuckle too. I was talking about this mark dufuss and how hyper himself seems to almost want to pick and jab at EVERYTHING. i FIND THAT COMPLETELY UNPROFESSIONAL sorry about the caps lock mesa tired



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[LAN-ED-TUL]

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Lan please do not think I was directing that at you. Ya'll were having fun and I got a chuckle too. I was talking about this mark dufuss and how hyper himself seems to almost want to pick and jab at EVERYTHING. i FIND THAT COMPLETELY UNPROFESSIONAL sorry about the caps lock mesa tired



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i wasnt sure the way you worded it james, but i didnt think it was tho. no harm sith brother. we all are a little on edge lately with the big "porty- mac" probs we have been havin. ebay probs, and with some, the Jimmy the Kid problems too.
that i agrre with james. he is actin completely unprofessional .

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Lan-Ed-Tul
The Brotherhood Of The Sith

You dont know the POWER, of the dark side...

[james3]

Lan it's nutty right? I mean we would get slam fired for this kinda stuff.

The guy must have some decent stuff like you said with what you have gotten but It seems almost like a jeckle and hyde thing, very odd.

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[LAN-ED-TUL]

well it is like i said, what i got, theres no opposition to the plain and simple fact, his system really is the best around. the problems lie with the claims he makes of the blades. which i dont have. so in a way, im not in the middle of it like some of the others are, because thats what theyre discussing about. that is probably the reason why he doesnt attack me. cuz i do agree with the voice systems being topnotch, they are, but the fact i dont have his blade and can compare and test it, i cant, and dont see its my place to make any comments as to it itself, just on hios attitude he's throwin round over folks who disagree with his opinions of it.

does any of this make any sense?

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Lan-Ed-Tul
The Brotherhood Of The Sith

You dont know the POWER, of the dark side...

[james3]

I think you may have just summed it up very well Lan.

And at this point I reckon I will leave it alone and cut out cause I don't know crap about any of the stuff[;)]

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[LAN-ED-TUL]

do any of us? lol just kiddin. couldnt help it.

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Lan-Ed-Tul
The Brotherhood Of The Sith

You dont know the POWER, of the dark side...