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ntyatecafe
11-28-2005, 11:29 AM
Has anyone had a problem with this, or is it just me?

I finished my saber, but one thing I noticed was that it leeches the battery even when not on. I put a new 9v into it, had it on for a few minutes, then turned it off. About an hour or two later, I try to turn it on again, and the battery is completely dead.

Any ideas on where I went wrong?

Thanks!

suit_man
11-28-2005, 03:38 PM
where did you wire the switch into the circuit? if you wire it onto one of the output wires, there will still be a complete circuit from the battery to the inverter.

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ntyatecafe
11-28-2005, 03:47 PM
*smacks head* Doh!

I'm not sure, but thinking back, I bet that's exactly what I did...silly me. I got too impatient on finishing the blasted thing... I'll check, but I think that's where I went wrong.

Thanks!

Van-Kal-Risk
11-28-2005, 09:40 PM
its gonna leach the battery no matter what, its still sending power to the inverter just not as much.

Strydur
11-28-2005, 09:52 PM
If you have the switch between the battery and the invert you wont lose any more power than the battery sitting there by itself. I have had a battery sitting in a test saber for 5 months and it still works fine.

Tim
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suit_man
11-28-2005, 10:42 PM
yep, it only sucks the power if you put the switch on an output, i had the same problem when i was a total newbie [:D] it kinda makes me feel better that i am not the only one with that problem.

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ntyatecafe
11-29-2005, 08:55 AM
lol...Thanks guys!

...now pardon me while I fall on my lightsaber. (or should I fix it, and THEN fall on it?)

patt12
12-23-2005, 12:05 AM
Does anyone have instructions on where and how to wire the switch. Sorry if it has already been explained, but I could'nt find it. I know absolutely nothing about electronics and new to this, so help would be appreciated.
Thanks![:)]

scaarmor
12-23-2005, 12:36 AM
Did you look through this, its Tims tutorial for That.

http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/sabers/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=15

Hope its what you need...

Cain

Strydur
12-23-2005, 01:26 AM
If you have one of the new inverters just hook the switch to the 2 black wires. Just take one of the black wires on the inverter and solder it to one of the switch wires. Then connect the remaining black wire from the inverter to the remaining switch wire..all done. Cant get much easier than that[8D]

Tim
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bremenx
02-25-2006, 05:48 PM
I just finished hooking my hilt wiring up about 25 minutes ago, and I noticed the battery (9v) is getting very hot. How can I reduce the heat?

FYI, a simple diagram of my wiring:



mono jack--1MOhm resistor----inverter---220 Ohm res.---battery
|
switch

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bremenx
02-25-2006, 05:49 PM
The last post of mine didn't place the switch where I typed it....it, of course, comes from the two switch wires off the inverter, not from the jack...

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xwingband
02-25-2006, 06:24 PM
Why do you have two resistors? You only need one for inverter protection after the battery goes straight to the inverter.

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dagger77
04-19-2006, 05:59 PM
Strydur, I placed a switch between the battery and the inverter. The battery started getting EXTREAMLY HOT, I thought it was going to explode. I wold love to find a way to prevent the drain when the switch is off. I heard Parks hasn't even figured this Problem out.<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Strydur

If you have the switch between the battery and the invert you wont lose any more power than the battery sitting there by itself. I have had a battery sitting in a test saber for 5 months and it still works fine.

Tim
The Custom Saber Shop
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Firebird21
04-19-2006, 06:07 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dagger77

Strydur, I placed a switch between the battery and the inverter. The battery started getting EXTREAMLY HOT, I thought it was going to explode. I wold love to find a way to prevent the drain when the switch is off. I heard Parks hasn't even figured this Problem out<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">


Sounds like a dead short...

What kind of switch is it?

Can you draw out a wireing diagram or take a pic of what you've got?

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xwingband
04-19-2006, 06:08 PM
That is odd as ever... you could always use a zenier diode to keep flow one way. You are using a inverter bought somewhere else? The one here has battery leads.

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dagger77
04-19-2006, 06:16 PM
It was a 9V inverter from Coolight. It came with 9V leads. I cut the leads, then wired a 120v SPST On/Off Switch +to+ -to- then continued to inverter +to+ -to-. then foward inverter leads to the front Mono Jack. ??? <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Firebird21

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dagger77

Strydur, I placed a switch between the battery and the inverter. The battery started getting EXTREAMLY HOT, I thought it was going to explode. I wold love to find a way to prevent the drain when the switch is off. I heard Parks hasn't even figured this Problem out<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">


Sounds like a dead short...

What kind of switch is it?

Can you draw out a wireing diagram or take a pic of what you've got?

Have you read your Thread Index (http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/sabers/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=577) today?
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james3
04-19-2006, 06:22 PM
Firebird is right, if you are heating up that bad there is a short across and you want to find that first and formost since no matter what else you try if you still have that you will continue to have problems.

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james3
04-19-2006, 06:27 PM
From what you are describing, you wired the switch in paralell and therefore when you turn it on it is shorting, you need to have the switch on only one leg either + or -.
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dagger77
04-19-2006, 06:29 PM
I just loked at the wiring scheme on http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/sabers/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=15That is much different than wht I did. Thanks for the help..<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by james3

From what you are describing, you wired the switch in paralell and therefore when you turn it on it is shorting, you need to have the switch on only one leg either + or -.

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xwingband
04-19-2006, 06:31 PM
Ahh... yes. If it's not it should be wired between one of the battery leads not both. Pick one, + or -, and splice the switch into it.

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Firebird21
04-19-2006, 06:34 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by james3

From what you are describing, you wired the switch in parallel and therefore when you turn it on it is shorting, you need to have the switch on only one leg either + or -.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">


That's what I'm thinking... When the switch is off it creates a complete circuit.

When you turn the switch on it shorts the battery and starves the rest of the circuit of power.

That's why it appears to be wired correctly, but the battery heats up.


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dagger77
04-19-2006, 06:38 PM
You are all wise and im just a padawon. Thank you millions<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Firebird21

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by james3

From what you are describing, you wired the switch in parallel and therefore when you turn it on it is shorting, you need to have the switch on only one leg either + or -.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">


That's what I'm thinking... When the switch is off it creates a complete circuit.

When you turn the switch on it shorts the battery and starves the rest of the circuit of power.

That's why it appears to be wired correctly, but the battery heats up.


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james3
04-19-2006, 06:38 PM
I posted a diagram up on my last post and here again it's a little small but you get the idea.

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Jedi-Loreen
04-30-2006, 11:05 PM
<font size="3"><font color="purple">I think that people sometimes forget, or don't know, that a circuit it is a circular path both from, and back to the battery. A switch interrupts that pathway (preferably along the part of the path going directly from or to the battery) of that circuit, that's what it's for.

Hooking up the switch to both wires from the battery defeats the intended purpose somewhat and causes other problems.

Some people may think that power comes from both terminals of the battery and ends at the part that is being powered from it and that's not the way an electrical circuit actually works.</font id="purple"></font id="size3">

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