TOR Sith Marauder - pic heavy!

[Xiarr Odai]

Howdy folks! These characters caught my attention after seeing the TOR "Deceived" trailer, and I decided that if I can actually focus enough to make a costume, it'll be this one. So I took all the decent screencaps I could (not many, unfortunately, but the ones I have are fairly good, I think) and started examining, and figured I'd share them here for anyone else who's interested.

Firstly, the robe...
http://neo-thought.parallel-worlds.net/mar.jpg
Fig 1
The robe is probably the simplest part, as expected really. The sleeves are just below the elbow, and wide - the robe itself looks just big enough to close around the armour, and floor-length. Sleeves have red trim on the sleeves, probably about 2.5" for the first stripe, a 2" gap and .5"-.75" for the second stripe. Hoods are large, but there's not much extra space like on, say, Sidious's robe - the head is at the back of the hood. It doesn't look like there's anything to hold the robe closed, either.

The mask...
Please excuse the barrage of pictures that follows.
http://neo-thought.parallel-worlds.net/sith4.jpg
Fig 2
http://neo-thought.parallel-worlds.net/sith7.jpg
Fig 3
http://neo-thought.parallel-worlds.net/sith8.jpg
Fig 4
http://neo-thought.parallel-worlds.net/sith9.jpg
Fig 5
http://neo-thought.parallel-worlds.net/sith5.jpg
Fig 6
http://neo-thought.parallel-worlds.net/sith6.jpg
Fig 7
http://neo-thought.parallel-worlds.net/mar2.jpg
Fig 8

Fig 2-5 show the best detail I'd have hoped for, really, and I continue to be amazed that they bothered putting it in, considering how hard it is to see when you're looking for it. The mask is really quite similar to Revan's in shape - I'm not sure whether that was intentional (whether the Marauders based their masks on Revan's, or vice versa) but it does seem to lend a bit more continuity. On a similar note, the later Mandalorian helmets also have that shape around the visor - perhaps relating to Canderous Ordo's admiration of Revan for beating them so thoroughly.

Some helmets seem unpainted, while one definitely has got red marks - perhaps a show of rank, or perhaps just customisation of armour. Not entirely sure, but the shapes are fairly clear in the pictures, particularly fig 7.

I was thinking (hoping) that it was just a mask, but it appears from fig 8 that it's full head - that one doesn't appear to be wearing a hood. If you intended to wear a hood though, I imagine it wouldn't matter if the mask was full head or just partial. This is the most daunting part of the costume for me, and possibly beyond my ability - I may use one of those full-face costume masks for decorating and build it up with epoxy putty.

Also note that the "nose" of the mask is higher than ones actual nose, so it won't hug the form of your face particularly well - another thing which makes it more of a helmet, I suppose. It is worth noting, though, that it doesn't look as though you would be able to remove it vertically - if it's whole head, it must be two-piece.

The detail of the masks is a bit odd - it looks like the sort you find on Victorian furniture. Maybe I'm missing something, but it looks good on the mask anyway - perhaps another "custom" feature, as some of the masks don't look that intricately decorated.


Now for Body and leg armour...
http://neo-thought.parallel-worlds.net/cap5.jpg
Fig 9
http://neo-thought.parallel-worlds.net/cap2.jpg
Fig 10
http://neo-thought.parallel-worlds.net/cap8.jpg
Fig 11

I'm starting to think they're giving these great high-detail slow-motion bits specifically for the costuming community - you just can't really expect any better than that, except possibly higher res. Anyway, the leg armour is outlined pretty well in these two pics - the head Sith's armour is just strapped on, rather than wraparound so I would assume that the rest are too - also, the kneepads are not poseable, they move with the shinguard. The shoes, I would recommend doing in at least two pieces overy ordinary shoes/sneakers to keep dexterity, if you want to use a hard shell at all.

The body armour is somewhat like the lead Sith's - it mainly consists of a chestpiece, with little protection for the abdominal region. There does seem to be a single plate (or two conected plates) underneath the chestpiece, to extend its length to the upper part of the abs without compromising mobility. The cod piece looks like it may be part of or attached to a kidney belt sorta deal, to help with abdominal protection. In fig 3 above, you can see that the neck protection is also scarce, just being one wide collar of the chestpiece. There's likely a leather gorget underneath though, or possibly an armoured one.

The gauntlets have probably been the toughest part to get clear pictures of, other than fig 9. The hard shell appears to end at the knuckles though, and it's just gloves after that - it does look like there's something on the fingertips, though I'm not sure what. It's hard to see, but I'm assuming the plate on the back of the hand is moveable seperate from the gauntlet, though they may be linked. This actually reminds me quite a bit of samurai bracers, which had a plate on the back of the hand attached to the bracers and no other hand protection IIRC - understandable that the Marauders would choose the same, given the similarity in weapons of choice. There is a clear pic of the lead Sith's bracers, though in fig 11, and I don't think it would be unreasonable to use detail from them to complement the others.

I'm going to try and get some drawings done to work out finer details. I don't have a scanner right now but I'll try and get them up somehow or other...

Hope someone finds use or interest in some of this!

Pete

[Barmic Rin]

Good share!

I'm sure a lot of people will wanna try making this.

One recommendation for the mask as a base is the Judoon Mask from doctor who.
Gives you a good pretty much blank template to start on.

I'm using one for the base of a character in my fanfilm..

Check Ebay for cheap ones....

[Thaxos]

I am very interested in this. I'll be watching this thread closely, it's some sweet armor and I have all summer for some projects.

[JediMasterDak]

This is an awesome costume, and like Thazos I will be watching this! :D:D:D:D

[Jedi-Loreen]

Who? :p

[Rhyen Skytracker]

You know, Thazos. Thaxos brother. lol I to will keep a close eye on this thread. That would be a cool costume.

[Xiarr Odai]

Barmic - I'm not sure about Judoon, I think his helmet would jut out a bit too much... shame it's not just a bit more human head shaped :( Right now I'm considering building on a hockey mask, but ideally I'd want something that gave more coverage. I did see a mask from China on eBay that was basically just a blank full face mask - no mouth, nostrils, just eyes, several straps AND it was padded. It was hard plastic too, rather than the flimsy ones made from paper-thin plastic or latex. I don't think I'll be able to find a better base, but I think I'll be cutting nose holes if I do get one :rolleyes: Essentially all it would need would be the buildup around the middle of the face to give the simulated cheekbones and the trapezoid shaped bit at the front - still more work than would be ideal, but doable.

All in all I've no idea how far I'll really be able to get in the armour - it's something that's always thrown me, and I've never done any casting, or even sculpting. I have always wanted to try fibreglassing, I've just never gotten round to it and I expect it'll be pretty expensive...

Pete

[Eco]

I wonder if this type of armor will lead to a battalion of marauders.
Y'know, like the 501st? (The actual battalion, not the costuming group. Well, kind of the costuming group, too.)

Great pics.
I'd like to get some of the Jedi armor from the cinematic, as well.

Good luck!

[Thaxos]

If it ever goes for sale, I am buying it. No doubt!

[sithlordfaust]

yknow JLo already posted pics of some of these costumes as well as the Jedi made by the 501st/Rebel Legion right. even sanctioned by LFL from what I understood. Im waiting to see if those will ever be made available by the costumers that made them, but I will be keeping an eye on this thread

[Thaxos]

yknow JLo already posted pics of some of these costumes as well as the Jedi made by the 501st/Rebel Legion right. even sanctioned by LFL from what I understood. Im waiting to see if those will ever be made available by the costumers that made them, but I will be keeping an eye on this thread

I saw them, they looked awesome however there were some differences... I was hoping to see something as close as possible to the Sith Marauders in the trailer. Mask and all!

Here's some more pictures that highlight the armor!

http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn414/Thaxos/Lead%20Sith%20Marauder%20Saber/SithGauntletLH.jpg

http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn414/Thaxos/Lead%20Sith%20Marauder%20Saber/SithShinArmor.jpg

http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn414/Thaxos/Lead%20Sith%20Marauder%20Saber/SithShoulderArmor.jpg

http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn414/Thaxos/Lead%20Sith%20Marauder%20Saber/SithNecksealandRespirator.jpg

[Xiarr Odai]

A battalion of Sith Marauders would be well beyond the definition of 'awesome' 8)

I've been trying to think how best to keep this armour "dynamic" - ultimately, the more dexterity the better, but that's famously difficult to do if you're set on hard armour - which I am. I think the feet, in particular, may have to be broken into more pieces than shown in the trailer and maybe even made out of linoleum or something to keep things moving - and lots of parts sliding over lots of other parts will be a paint schemes nightmare :shock: Maybe time to find a blacksmith to heat up the forge and get hammering... Metal parts WOULD mean thinner parts of equal strength, no cracking (assuming it's done right), no paint to flake off...

Pete

PS: I also think a Death Eater mask from Harry Potter may be a decent starting point!

[Takamatsu]

My first post here, hi everyone.
I stumbled across this thread after buying a my first Saber, a MR Darth Vader Force FX (2007 ANH). Since my job includes selling videogames I am really looking forward to the eventual release of SW:TOR and have watched this trailer a number of times. While looking and thinking of ideas for Halloween costumes I've had numerous ideas including the Sith Stalker armour from Force Unleashed, the Templar from Hellgate:London and also this "Sith Marauder" that is being talked about in this thread.
As it will only be a Halloween costume I haven't taken the care and detail that you guys here will no doubt take (seeing as the people that will witness this costume won't even be aware of any SW extended universe - hopefully they will just see it as a cool costume).

Anyway, I just thought I would post one more screenshot that also shows a bit more of the chest/stomach area.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/sitharmour3.jpg

Once again, hi everyone - I will no doubt have more to read than to say. :D

[Sairon]

Wow, the mask looks awesome, I may have to mod the design and make it for my sith costume.

[Barmic Rin]

Idea for the mask:

IRON MAN MASK. The cheap costumes can be easily modded.

If it doesn't work, no huge loss financially.

[astromech_kuhns]

AWESOME! they look sweet! i didn't realize those were sith marauders at first.:oops:

[vorian89]

From the belt down it kind of looks like spartan armor (more the shins to boots). The chest armor looks alot like the jedi armor in the trailer. Some of the forearm gautlets look like Boba Fetts fiber cord and flamethrower gautlets.

[Takamatsu]

I've never really attempted anything past the paper mache halloween costume before and again this will only be for halloween so nothing near as serious as some of the stuff I have seen linked on this site and others. Again I've started the helmet/mask with paper mache and I started cutting some armor shapes out of some off cuts from some "Sale signs" which were made of some kind of foam plastic sheet. I was able to form the plastic quite easily by wrapping it around myself after warming it in the oven.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/SL384044.jpg

After shaping the plastic I attached it to some foam from a roll-up camping bed to make it easier to wear.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/SL384097.jpg

We had a nice sunny day here today so I sprayed the whole armour black then used silver rub'n buff on the hard plastic pieces. I got the missus to take a couple of photos with me wearing just a normal hooded cloak so I could get a rough idea of how things were shaping up.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/edit.jpg

As I said previously this is just going to be a halloween costume, and the people that will see this costume will have no idea what/who it is supposed to be, the lightsaber will probably be the only giveaway that it is even Star Wars related so this is in no way accurate or even supposed to be. Even so if you want to criticise then do so, my feelings won't be hurt I have thick skin ;)

Thing is now I've started this 'rough' version I feel like I want to spend lots of time doing a 'proper' version and actually buying some materials to do it rather than bits and pieces lying around (I did buy the paint and rub'n buff though). For now though I will settle on finishing this costume in time for halloween this year and maybe think about another for next year.

[Barmic Rin]

Looks good thus far. Wanting to see that mask though.

[Takamatsu]

The mask isn't looking upto much yet, only done a bit of paper-mache and card shapes so far. Either way I've taken a couple of pictures to show where I'm up to. I'm intending to make this a full helmet rather than just a mask but at the moment it probably looks more like Dr. Doom than anything star wars :neutral:

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/helmrough2.jpg

[Takamatsu]

Perhaps a mod can move some of my posts to a seperate thread, don't want to hijack Xiarr Odai's thread, sorry.

I finished shaping the helmet and got it as tight as I could while still being able to fit it on in 1 piece, it wouldve been nice to get it narrower but it just wasn't possible if I wanted to get it an 'on and off' over my fat head.

I spent an hour or so on the helmet tonight giving it a coat of paint but before I go any further I'm going to have to practice that fancy kind of Victorian Swirls that the helmet has all over it, at the moment it looks a little too 'clean' and needs the decorative paint adding to it and some weathering.

I attempted to take some pics of myself but they didn't come out too well, I've photoshopped the best one just as a teaser for now.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/test2.jpg

I apologise for jumping on this thread and hope a mod can seperate the posts, sorry for the hijack Xiarr Odai.

[Takamatsu]

Spent an hour or so painting the helmet last night, I realised there was no way I could paint the intricate detail that is shown on the trailer, even on a flat piece of paper. Going with the idea that perhaps the paint scheme allows for some slight customisation I carried on painting with less detail and it came out looking almost like a tribal pattern. I'm pretty happy with the results, afterall it is only going to be for halloween (for now at least) and it is all a learning curve for me.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/th_front.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/th_side.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/th_threequarters.jpg

[Barmic Rin]

One of the better 'Non-Canon' costumes i've seen in a long time.

[xl97]

nice..what did you make it from? have a helmet to start from? (base to work off?)

[Takamatsu]

Not quite sure what you mean by 'as a base'. I basically built up the rough shape from cardboard and paper mache. For the top dome I used a template for a boba fett helmet from thedentedhelmet.com (the link I found from instructables.com some time ago). The helmet was originally going to be a Templar design from the game Hellgate London but I chopped the front off and attempted this character instead. The back of the helmet is really really rough, but as its hidden under the hood I didn't waste anytime on it, you can still see where the cardboard sections meet. :razz:

Once I'd gotten the shape roughly how I wanted it I sanded some of the paper mache and gave it a coat of resin inside and out to give it some strength.
Then a coat of black primer. Then silver leaf rub 'n buff, some red enamel painted into the mouth area and finger smeared onto the top section. Then I used some black paint (I think it was acrylic paint??) to paint on the detailed pattern.

Now the helmet is pretty much how I like it I have a lot to do on the armour parts.

For halloween I have managed to pick up a cheap rubies Darth Vader costume for my two and half year old son and he loves it.

[sithlordfaust]

Great work on the mask. its lookin pretty sweet


One of the better 'Non-Canon' costumes i've seen in a long time.

not so sure its non-canon.

seing as the RL have accepted the armored TOR jedi as formal, Im curious if the 501st flagship Eclipse will take the maauders as formal as well.

It seems as though the history given fom TOR so far is being accepted as canon.

[Barmic Rin]

Well, not officially set yet. I meant non-canon as in it may not be 100% accurate, so whilst the flagship folks would accept it, the 501st may not.

I'd put this in the same category as Dathomiri witches, recognised, but not attached to one specific character.

[Takamatsu]

Getting there. My wife couldnt seem to hold the camera still enough for lower light pictures which I wanted to give more shadow and make the saber brighter.
Still quite a bit to do mainly feet and hands, some weathering, pouches etc. Hopefully it will be freezing cold come halloween as it was boiling wearing this for just 10 minutes or so today.
Anyone got any suggestions for an easy way to do the feet? I was thinking of attaching some of the foam plastic sheet to a normal pair of shoes/trainers and spraying the whole lot silver or something.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/nearlydone1.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/nearlydone4.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/nearlydone3.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/nearlydone2.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/nearlydone5.jpg

[Jasten Skywalker]

Man, this is really looking great! I can't wait to see it finished.

[Sairon]

Looks great man, now you just need a custom saber and some boots!

[Takamatsu]

I was actually thinking of the possibility of wearing my old motorbike boots Frank Thomas Apollo Gore boots (I recently accidently discovered people like to use these for their Maul costumes lol http://www.dmeb2.org/features/darthmaulboots1.html ) but am now thinking of using the foam plastic sheets to make something to stick to some old trainers.
I'm pretty much looking at the suit now and seeing so many parts I could have done differently, perhaps I will at some point but I can't justify spending so much time on what is essentially a halloween costume, so far I've probably spent 20-25 hours on it, but I am thinking of continuing past halloween to build a better and more durable suit for next year, or the games release.

And yes Sairon you are absolutely correct I need to get cracking on a custom Saber or at least a conversion on my MR Darth. I would've ordered the parts from TCSS a while ago if I didn't have to justify the cost of parts+shipping to my wife :roll:. I also don't want to wreck my MR saber by attempting a ham-fisted conversion, eventhough I bought it for a bargain price of £20 UK.

[Paar Ad]

Did anybody else notice that the Sith Lord's lightsaber looked just like the US Overlord?

[Takamatsu]

Incoming picture spam....

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/outside4.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/outside5.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/outside2.jpg

in fact its best I probably don't spam loads of pics here but if you want to see more then http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/

As you can see I still need to sort out the hands and some other minor bits and pieces but to be honest the only thing I will probably do now is wear some black gloves with it and it is ready for Halloween.

Now my next question is.... do I call this a Sith Marauder costume, is that what it is or a Sith Warrior, armoured Sith Acolyte?:confused:

[Goltar Bias]

That looks awesome. i had an idea that might help others if they want to do the mask/helmet look at a blank "Army of 2 replica" you can get them on ebay pretty afford-ably and they have the basic shape already.

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww338/nefreeze/100_0446.jpg

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww338/nefreeze/100_0458.jpg

First pic is as i got it save the lenses, second is with paint job, lenses i added from dollar store sunglasses.

[Jericho845]

Howdy folks! These characters caught my attention after seeing the TOR "Deceived" trailer, and I decided that if I can actually focus enough to make a costume, it'll be this one. So I took all the decent screencaps I could (not many, unfortunately, but the ones I have are fairly good, I think) and started examining, and figured I'd share them here for anyone else who's interested.

Firstly, the robe...
http://neo-thought.parallel-worlds.net/mar.jpg
Fig 1
The robe is probably the simplest part, as expected really. The sleeves are just below the elbow, and wide - the robe itself looks just big enough to close around the armour, and floor-length. Sleeves have red trim on the sleeves, probably about 2.5" for the first stripe, a 2" gap and .5"-.75" for the second stripe. Hoods are large, but there's not much extra space like on, say, Sidious's robe - the head is at the back of the hood. It doesn't look like there's anything to hold the robe closed, either.

The mask...
Please excuse the barrage of pictures that follows.
http://neo-thought.parallel-worlds.net/sith4.jpg
Fig 2
http://neo-thought.parallel-worlds.net/sith7.jpg
Fig 3
http://neo-thought.parallel-worlds.net/sith8.jpg
Fig 4
http://neo-thought.parallel-worlds.net/sith9.jpg
Fig 5
http://neo-thought.parallel-worlds.net/sith5.jpg
Fig 6
http://neo-thought.parallel-worlds.net/sith6.jpg
Fig 7
http://neo-thought.parallel-worlds.net/mar2.jpg
Fig 8

Fig 2-5 show the best detail I'd have hoped for, really, and I continue to be amazed that they bothered putting it in, considering how hard it is to see when you're looking for it. The mask is really quite similar to Revan's in shape - I'm not sure whether that was intentional (whether the Marauders based their masks on Revan's, or vice versa) but it does seem to lend a bit more continuity. On a similar note, the later Mandalorian helmets also have that shape around the visor - perhaps relating to Canderous Ordo's admiration of Revan for beating them so thoroughly.

Some helmets seem unpainted, while one definitely has got red marks - perhaps a show of rank, or perhaps just customisation of armour. Not entirely sure, but the shapes are fairly clear in the pictures, particularly fig 7.

I was thinking (hoping) that it was just a mask, but it appears from fig 8 that it's full head - that one doesn't appear to be wearing a hood. If you intended to wear a hood though, I imagine it wouldn't matter if the mask was full head or just partial. This is the most daunting part of the costume for me, and possibly beyond my ability - I may use one of those full-face costume masks for decorating and build it up with epoxy putty.

Also note that the "nose" of the mask is higher than ones actual nose, so it won't hug the form of your face particularly well - another thing which makes it more of a helmet, I suppose. It is worth noting, though, that it doesn't look as though you would be able to remove it vertically - if it's whole head, it must be two-piece.

The detail of the masks is a bit odd - it looks like the sort you find on Victorian furniture. Maybe I'm missing something, but it looks good on the mask anyway - perhaps another "custom" feature, as some of the masks don't look that intricately decorated.


Now for Body and leg armour...
http://neo-thought.parallel-worlds.net/cap5.jpg
Fig 9
http://neo-thought.parallel-worlds.net/cap2.jpg
Fig 10
http://neo-thought.parallel-worlds.net/cap8.jpg
Fig 11

I'm starting to think they're giving these great high-detail slow-motion bits specifically for the costuming community - you just can't really expect any better than that, except possibly higher res. Anyway, the leg armour is outlined pretty well in these two pics - the head Sith's armour is just strapped on, rather than wraparound so I would assume that the rest are too - also, the kneepads are not poseable, they move with the shinguard. The shoes, I would recommend doing in at least two pieces overy ordinary shoes/sneakers to keep dexterity, if you want to use a hard shell at all.

The body armour is somewhat like the lead Sith's - it mainly consists of a chestpiece, with little protection for the abdominal region. There does seem to be a single plate (or two conected plates) underneath the chestpiece, to extend its length to the upper part of the abs without compromising mobility. The cod piece looks like it may be part of or attached to a kidney belt sorta deal, to help with abdominal protection. In fig 3 above, you can see that the neck protection is also scarce, just being one wide collar of the chestpiece. There's likely a leather gorget underneath though, or possibly an armoured one.

The gauntlets have probably been the toughest part to get clear pictures of, other than fig 9. The hard shell appears to end at the knuckles though, and it's just gloves after that - it does look like there's something on the fingertips, though I'm not sure what. It's hard to see, but I'm assuming the plate on the back of the hand is moveable seperate from the gauntlet, though they may be linked. This actually reminds me quite a bit of samurai bracers, which had a plate on the back of the hand attached to the bracers and no other hand protection IIRC - understandable that the Marauders would choose the same, given the similarity in weapons of choice. There is a clear pic of the lead Sith's bracers, though in fig 11, and I don't think it would be unreasonable to use detail from them to complement the others.

I'm going to try and get some drawings done to work out finer details. I don't have a scanner right now but I'll try and get them up somehow or other...

Hope someone finds use or interest in some of this!

Pete

Something like this could work for the respirator if you went for this look. http://www.xtremedesignfx.com/horrorscifi.htm

[Jedi-Loreen]

I'm assuming you're talking about this respirator:

http://www.xtremedesignfx.com//newwebsiteimages/bronzerebreatherlarge.jpg

http://www.xtremedesignfx.com/newwebsiteimages/reabreather1sidelarge.jpg

With a different paint job and a couple red LEDs in the front holes, it could work.

[Takamatsu]

Ready for some trick-or-treating :p

Just thought I'd post a couple more pics now that the costume is ready for halloween. I got the gloves, pouches and saber sorted since the last photos and dirtied it up some more. Doubt I'll do anything else to it between now and Halloween.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/640x480%20size/Sith_complete_forum4.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/th_Sith_complete11.jpg (http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/?action=view&current=Sith_complete11.jpg)http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/th_Sith_complete05.jpg (http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/?action=view&current=Sith_complete05.jpg)http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/th_Sith_complete07.jpg (http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/?action=view&current=Sith_complete07.jpg)http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/th_Sith_complete15.jpg (http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/?action=view&current=Sith_complete15.jpg)

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/640x480%20size/Sith_complete_forum6.jpg

And to think, all of this happened because I bought a "Lightsaber toy".:lol:

[annon]

If I saw you on the street, I would run! :shock:
great job.:cool:

[sithlordfaust]

youve done a FANtastic job on that!

[Alcfalath]

A little bit of a necro post, but do you plan on making moulds and copies of that armour set. I know that when the release of the MMO comes around, the 501st are definately going to be wanting to have some for their promos...

Id just love a matching one to go with my TOR Jedi armour :) and the above reason too..

[Takamatsu]

Haha, I wouldn't know where to start!
I've never made a cast of anything before although I have read about the basics of "how to". This wouldn't be deemed accurate to even bother producing more of either.

I'm still considering making another version of this but just can't seem to get motivated at the moment.

Oh, and these bad guys get another appearance in the latest trailer:
http://www.swtor.com/media/trailers/hope-cinematic-trailer :cool:

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/Sith_Maruder_Hope_Trailer_medium.jpg

[Alcfalath]

Well from the look of it, you seem to have pulled off details in that mask that no one else has of yet *afaik*, so were you to make a mould and a few casts of the mask, that would make you one popular guy..

As for the costume, I have looked in detail at it and it seems that the same skin (slightly tweaked) was used for the TOR Jedi Armour, with a few different seams and greeblies, and a different colour coat.

Now if i could get a hold of those TOR Jedi moulds... and a cast of your mask.. :D

[Defectuous]

Damnit, I hate you Lucas for making another badass costume for me to make....

One more note, if you do go and get the mask mold, let me know. ( edited so i would be following the rules )

[Takamatsu]

Just as a point of interest I have spoken via email to one of the artists (his website is here http://requestdenied.com/) that worked on these trailers and he referred to the masked characters as Sith Acolytes rather than Sith Warriors or Marauders.

Unfortunately he was unable to provide any detailed images/renders of the characters to aid with the costume though at the current time (although things may change once the game is released). I was just happy to get a reply from him :D

[Jedi-Loreen]

No soliciting please, Defectuous. ;)

[Defectuous]

No soliciting please, Defectuous. ;)

:(
but but but MOM I WANT TO PLAY BY THE RULES !!!!! :P

[Takamatsu]

I made another mask this week seeing as the Hope trailer gave some clearer images of the mask. Still not 100% accurate, but closer. Again mainly card and paper mache coated with resin then painted.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/th_SL385568.jpg (http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/?action=view&current=SL385568.jpg)
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/th_SL385555.jpg (http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/?action=view&current=SL385555.jpg)

[Invisas1979]

Mate great work once again.

I'd love to have a tutorial done by you showing in stages the techniques that you employ to make your armor.

Goodaa Job

[Thaxos]

I made another mask this week seeing as the Hope trailer gave some clearer images of the mask. Still not 100% accurate, but closer. Again mainly card and paper mache coated with resin then painted.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/th_SL385568.jpg (http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/?action=view&current=SL385568.jpg)
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/th_SL385555.jpg (http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/?action=view&current=SL385555.jpg)

Looking great so far!

[Jedi_Knight_Zekk]

[QUOTE=Xiarr Odai;135971]A battalion of Sith Marauders would be well beyond the definition of 'awesome' 8)

Understatement of the Galaxy :P

[Jedi_Knight_Zekk]

Awesome pics all around!

[Takamatsu]

Mate great work once again.

I'd love to have a tutorial done by you showing in stages the techniques that you employ to make your armor.

Goodaa Job
Erm, real basic tutorial - there really isn't anything special going on here.

Start with a basic cardboard shape, I used the WOF boba fett helmet templates to get the top dome shape.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/The%20next%20costume/th_SL384544.jpg (http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/The%20next%20costume/?action=view&current=SL384544.jpg)

Then I covered the top and back with some paper-mache and added some cardboard shaping for the "facial features"
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/th_SL385457.jpg (http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/?action=view&current=SL385457.jpg)

Went from the cardboard to cover it in paper mache:
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/th_SL385496.jpg (http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/?action=view&current=SL385496.jpg)

Then trimmed off some of the back and side to getaway from the "mando" look that it had:
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/th_SL385502.jpg (http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/?action=view&current=SL385502.jpg)
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/th_SL385504.jpg (http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/?action=view&current=SL385504.jpg)
Next I gave it 2 coats of resin outside and 1 inside (forgot to take pics), then gave it a coat of primer:
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/th_SL385506.jpg (http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/?action=view&current=SL385506.jpg)

I added the couple of details on the top and forehead with sintra simply glued on and a thin coat of resin. Next I gave it 2 thin coats of matt black, then hit it with some rub n buff. Then I quickly gave it some of the detail paint with matt black. I didn't really like the detailed paint as I rushed it while it was light, but I have redone this now.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/th_SL385520.jpg (http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/?action=view&current=SL385520.jpg)

Extra face paint+hood.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/th_SL385555.jpg (http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/?action=view&current=SL385555.jpg)

Overall it isn't a million miles away from the first acolyte helm that I'd made, but this one is slightly larger inside and definitely lighter than the previous. It's also still a bit rough around the edges but I rushed through it in a couple of days while I had time off work - one day I might learn to take my time for better results!

[Rafalema]

Now that looks great!

Good job! :cool:

[dj2rbo]

Very cool. And you saved so much money!!

[Takamatsu]

Tweaked the costume a little bit more. I almost smashed the ceiling light too while taking photos. I managed to hit the glass hard enough that it knocked the end off my lightsaber blade, amazingly the glass of the light didn't smash. I made a video too, but didn't dare swing the saber around lol.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/SL385645_t.jpg

The video is pretty dim, I was trying to keep the lighting pretty low to show off the lightsaber but in the end I should've used more light. Anyway it's here if you want to see it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7cL5EW5TY0

[Serath]

can you send me the template for the dome please ? ... i own ya' . :D

[Takamatsu]

This is the link to wizardofflight's excellent Boba Fett Helmet templates on the dented helmet:
http://www.thedentedhelmet.com/forums/showthread.php/10497-Boba-Fett-Helmet-Blueprints-Templates I used the top dome template from this when creating my helmet although there are plenty of pepakura templates for different domes or complete helmets that you could adapt for your own needs.

***edit** so I don't necro post or double post I'm editting this post to give an upto date picture
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Finished%20Sith%20Acolyte%20Costume/Sith_finished4.jpg

[sum_dum_gai]

I don't know if anyone looks at this thread anymore, but since I stumbled accross it, I've been inspired to do my own Sith Acolyte. This looks great. I did come accross a play by play on how they made the armor for the E3 premier of the "Deceived" trailer on this website. http://www.imperialsurplus.com/orjedi_final.html
If anyone has the proper equipment, it might be worth trying. I'm going with the plastic-foam in the oven version myself, bt I may use the designs from the above site to cut out the pieces/parts.

My best friend and I are going to dragoncon (me every year, his first year) and I'll be doing Sith Acolyte, and he Jedi Knight. I'd like to post a thread with pics of our progress too if anyone's interested.

[Jedi-Loreen]

You've got the wrong link posted. What you posted goes to this thread we're in right now.

[Takamatsu]

Seeing as this thread has bumped back up I'll post some of the most recent pictures taken, had some fun when we had the snowstorm hit the UK. You can't beat natural weathering, plus the low temperatures meant wearing the costume was quite bearable :p.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/obsolete2.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Finished%20Sith%20Acolyte%20Costume/sith_on_hoth.jpg

[Skottsaber]

Awesome!
Reminds me of the snow trailer for TFU2.

[psab keel]

That looks awesome!

[sum_dum_gai]

Oops. Fixed it. here it is. http://www.imperialsurplus.com/orjedi_final.html

[Jedi-Loreen]

Hmm, there's some foot armor too that I don't see in that kit. :confused:

[sum_dum_gai]

When you say sign material, are you talking corrugated plastic? I'm going to be attempting to duplicate your work,tand that is one of the materials that people have recommended.

[Jedi-Loreen]

No, more likely the flat plastic kind, like For Sale signs.

[vctrsone]

heyas, Takamatsu your wicked costume inspired me to start building my own, so heres the respirator Ive been building as a start to my non-canon old republic sith costume.

I started with a paintball mask.
http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n563/vctrsone/Costumes/Respirator/Paintballmask.jpg

then chopped and changed it, glued a few things on and matt blacked it before painting on the silver high lights.

next i made a 6 led 3.6v circuit with a recharge port. I still need to mount the batterys and switch/recharge port.

here it is lit as is.
http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n563/vctrsone/Costumes/Respirator006.jpg

and lit while being worn
http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n563/vctrsone/Costumes/Respirator/Respirator012.jpg (thats my old cloak, I designed a new pattern)


so work in progress for now.

[(null).exe]

Seeing as this thread has bumped back up I'll post some of the most recent pictures taken, had some fun when we had the snowstorm hit the UK. You can't beat natural weathering, plus the low temperatures meant wearing the costume was quite bearable :p.
[IMAGE SNIP]

As a 405th (Halo costumers) member, I'm pretty used to losing tons of mobility when in costume, but how's your range of motion with the thigh and shin armor on?

Also, if anyone is familiar with the program Pepakura, I was thinking about making a Sith Marauder helmet render and then unfolding it with Pep to allow for re-creation.

[sum_dum_gai]

@Vctrsone nicely done! Darth Malgus would be proud.
@(null).exe What is this Pepakura... Peprika... popcorn thing you're talking about. I and my best friend wish to both duplicate the sith armor, but if there's a way to make a double I'd love to hear it.

[Jedi-Loreen]

Google is your friend. ;)

[Takamatsu]

Nice looking mask vctrsone, I'm glad that you think my costume has given you some inspiration.


As a 405th (Halo costumers) member, I'm pretty used to losing tons of mobility when in costume, but how's your range of motion with the thigh and shin armor on?

Also, if anyone is familiar with the program Pepakura, I was thinking about making a Sith Marauder helmet render and then unfolding it with Pep to allow for re-creation.

A Pepakura version of the helmet would be fantastic, mine is nowhere near acurate (although hopefully recognisable) and although I've never attempted to make anything using a pepakura program I would certainly like to give it a try.

My leg armour doesn't restrict my movement too much, although it does make me feel slightly more clumsy while I'm wearing the armour. As I was building the armour I kept cutting the pieces down smaller and smaller in order to get a larger range of movement and in the end decided to keep the pieces open at the back of the legs as my character is usually wearing a cloak anyway, there are large gaps between the armour pieces too. I've just put the leg armour on to help describe how restrictive my leg movements are.


http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/armour%20parts/?action=view&current=SL386831.mp4

@sum_dum_gai
The sign material used is called foamed PVC sheet, but I think it is very similar (if not the same stuff) as sintra.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/armour%20parts/th_SL386830.jpg (http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Star%20Wars%20Stuff/armour%20parts/?action=view&current=SL386830.jpg)

[sum_dum_gai]

Wow, that Darth Malgus mask is looking great. When you pair it with the hood... I'm certainly impressed.

[sum_dum_gai]

@Takamatsu: Question about construction. How hot did you have to get it, and how did you shape it to yourself? Did you just heat it and press it over reasonably thick clothing or what? Teach me master Yoda. :D

[Takamatsu]

Okay, I'm a little unsure which would be the worst here, necro posting or starting a new thread when this discussion is already covered so I went with the "Necro post" sin just so I could post some updated images. I have posted these elsewhere on Star Wars costuming forums but feel that as this forum was the one that initially gave me the idea and inspiration to try creating this costume I'll show some loyalty ;) .
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Finished%20Sith%20Acolyte%20Costume/pose-collection-600-1.jpg
And a photoshop of a new CGI vs Real life side by side comparison:
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/stew750/Finished%20Sith%20Acolyte%20Costume/Adraas_compare-600-1.jpg

[xl97]

I think it turned out amazing!..

really something to be proud of! great job!! (thanks for posting pics too!)

[Jedi-Loreen]

Great looking costume. :-)

It's not a "sin" to necropost if your post is on topic. It is better than starting a new thread. ;)

[Boj-Vaati Mau]

Well done, mate! Now to start dueling with it on...

[Mandalorian]

Wow, well done. That looks great. I love the side-by-side comparison of the CG version with yours. You are extremely close to the original.

Now, as Boj-Vaati Mau said, it's time to start dueling. I expect to see a new trailer for TOR with this in it very soon. ;)

[Takamatsu]

Thanks for the positive comments :D

Small update on the costume:
I weathered the armour by giving it a black wash to dull down the shinyness of the silver and took a few more pics.
With robes off:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6170/6168366449_39083da909.jpg

With lightsaber (not photoshopped , just low lighting)
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6162/6168907096_d52ea08bc1.jpg

And a photoshopped image with one of the reference images I used to create the costume. I think I need to practice getting my leg straighter lol. This was one of the clearest images of this Sith character from the first trailer, as shown on Xiarr Odai's original post on page 1. (This is probably the biggest thread hijack on TCSS btw....:???:)
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6168/6168910252_7d2ff918a4_z.jpg

[Boj-Vaati Mau]

Again, well done! The black wash tones the silver down nicely and makes it look less 'parade-like'. Excellent job on the image, you might want to print & frame it! :D

[Takamatsu]

Guess what....
I'm still working on this costume. ;)
Introducing Helmet mkIII:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7149/6412427389_0198021831_z.jpg
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6224/6412516401_a750dbc281_z.jpg

[bk_renesis]

Stunning! How did you do the raised detailing?

[Darsha Sinis]

that's really,really good.
did you use a tracing with a sculpting tip for the ornamentation? It is very well done.
I love watching evolving costumes, yours is awesome, I hope mine, which i'm in the midst of crafting, will be half as good.

[Takamatsu]

In reply to your question I'll copy and paste directly from my post on another forum. The build is very similar to what you've seen already in this thread.
Okay so call me silly but I got myself hyped about SW:TOR again, and what happens when I get hyped about SW:TOR? I go ahead and start re-making stuff for my costume.
I was already on my second version of the helmet but having this guy's image on my desktop just makes me feel jealous about that awesome mask.
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6102/6407488237_14e1271d0b_z.jpg
This time I'm more determined to get it right, and dgdve has taught me that patience can bring results, plus after seeing the finish on some of his work it got me re-thinking some parts of my mask. I also have to admit that I was jealous of the mask that mywickedarmor made, I know you guys had kind words to say about mine but in the back of my mind mine was no longer good enough.
So once again I restarted my helmet, in the same style as I always do I start with a rough template:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7142/6407492113_a94e56afd2_z.jpg
and copy it onto cardboard to get the basic face shape:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7034/6407483013_fd45dfa908_z.jpg
I used a voice changing death eater mask as a template for the top, covered in paper mache:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7002/6407484907_7baf2cb19d_z.jpg
This gave me these pieces:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7032/6407493093_92777f82cd_z.jpg
Put together form:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7152/6407495201_7fdb1526be_z.jpg
This lot was covered in paper mache:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7029/6407490571_74d205cd9a_z.jpg
Before being given some coats of resin+sand+prime+resin+sand+prime.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7153/6407489631_b560041916_z.jpg
Fast forward (skip some resin and sanding) and it's time for some details:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7153/6407479271_e73798cf0d_z.jpg

So, last time I attempted this I discovered that I couldn't paint the fancy swirls very accurately (I didn't have the patience!). So what am I going to do this time. Perhaps I was foolish or perhaps I was taking notice of the fact that there really shouldn't be a timescale on this, I could after all just do this bit by bit and get there eventually one day... so my weapon of choice for the next 10-12 hours of freetime were these:
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6092/6407477291_29d8f52b96_z.jpg
And I spent hours cutting tiny bits of cardboard and sticking them onto my mask:
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6050/6407483869_2cd671494c_z.jpg
Bit by bit I worked my way around the mask:
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6095/6407487675_1bc52d4197_z.jpg
And eventually it was covered:
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6056/6407485847_ecda8904ee_z.jpg
After I'd covered it in glue and (crappy timewasting) little bits of cardboard I gave it another coat of resin, before spraying it with primer. It looked okay I thought, the details were still visible, so I added some rub'n' buff before giving it some a black wash with some acrylic paint. I ended up with this:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7021/6407480295_3143c2459c_z.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7003/6407482149_15766a1c7f_z.jpg
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6224/6407666029_4ec97acd33_z.jpg


It even has my forum name on it:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7028/6407481181_ecedfda79a_z.jpg
I'm still waiting for some red paint that I've ordered to be delivered so that I can paint the mouth area and the forehead areas. I'm pleased I've done this, I certainly consider this an improvement for my costume and I've learnt a bit along the way.

[Darsha Sinis]

that's killer, thanks for showing the process!

[dgdve]

Awwwww thx buddy! (hehe)... BUT this is 110% you boy (your not blaming that masterpiece on me!)

Ive said it alot but I couldnt be more pleased to see how this rebuild has progressed... I really feel this time the bar is raised sooooo very very high as far as symettry, screen accuracy, as well as professional finishing that this (3rd rebuild) has already proven itself to be a true UNICORN (like chasing a dream).. thx for allowing the rest of us (dreamers) from the various forum families (Tcss/Fx/Tde)... to kinda jog and run alongside.

Its easy to make (or purchase) a nice costume helm (and no offense to the rich kids if thats your thing)... Its also easy to take a few pics and post it all in the name of the glamour/glory shot.. BUT to me (especially at TCSS with its DIY roots).. Watching a build progress gives us all a tiny piece of the dream (to share OR to chase).. Its that type of sharing, sharing of techniques, of idea's, the little tricks.. just everything that shows how BIG your heart is.. blah blah... rambling whatever..

If I have to sum up how I feel in one single line.. -> "Im VERY proud of you boy!!!" (thank you so very much for sharing! and lol to the shoutout)
~dave

[pvcpo]

awesome!!! really good work!!!

[Mexxo]

Incredible pictures and quality crafting, also as another UK fanboy nice pictures in the snow :P

[bk_renesis]

Just absolutely epic! Looks awesome mate well done.

[Boj-Vaati Mau]

Excellent use of materials, mate! The Rub'n'Buff and the wash did a great job of popping the details.

[Tarrell]

Epic, love it, gives me some ideas.
Job very well done.

[vctrsone]

yerp dude its getting better and better! I was reading your posts on the helm detailing and it inspired me too pick up the old two peace plastic halo helmet i had foamed sometime back :)

new costume on the way thanks to you buddy.

[Amanita]

What kind of resin did you use for that mask, and how sturdy is the finished piece? I need to do a set of shoulder pieces and your method might be useful.

[dustunite]

that is freakin awesome! ive already made custom sith costumes but TOR has givin me an unlimited supply of parts and ideas and you've given me inspiration to finish a costume! thanks

[Ashla Knights]

And to think, all of this happened because I bought a "Lightsaber toy".:lol:

Outstanding stuff, love it. You put a lot of heart into this and it shows man.

[Takamatsu]

Outstanding stuff, love it. You put a lot of heart into this and it shows man.
Thanks, and I'm still kind of working on this on and off.
Here is the latest version of the mask:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8306/8016996995_5a6f3ec6fe_z.jpg

[shmoetech]

wow....great detail in the mask....nice job!