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GeluKhanGharr
11-23-2005, 02:15 PM
Has anyone ever tried a 8 Khz inverter? I was wondering what is the brightness gain, and what are the effects on the life of the wire. I have seen those in other applications - like auto or costumes, but never mentioned in saber discussions.

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Strydur
11-23-2005, 02:35 PM
According to lytec the manufacturer of the wire the "sweet spot" to run the wire is at 4khz. I am not sure what it would do at 8khz but one thing for sure it would definately lower the lifespan.

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jedijohnson
04-22-2006, 06:31 PM
Where can you get a 8hz or 10 hz inverter ?

I read somewhere that 4hz is the sweet spot.

But some have said the even more brightness can be achieved, but the life of the El wire goes down.

But if you think about it.

I saw it said 8hz, was 1,200 hours. Even thats a long time.

To me, I fine with it being at around 300 hours.



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informalmyx
04-22-2006, 10:40 PM
with my saber running at 4kz on a 18v i have really no big problem with brightness only direct sunlight out shines it

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GFORCE13
04-22-2006, 10:48 PM
Yes unfortunately L.Sabers are hard to see in direct sunlight, but as an option I have a Solid PolyCarb rod I use for my Led Saber, I have also seen people use Colored Acrylic Rods for Daytime use as well.[:D]

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informalmyx
04-23-2006, 12:05 PM
i plan on buyign purple film and addto my blade

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informalmyx
04-24-2006, 01:56 PM
speaking of which and body know a good place to get some color film

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steel_darkblade
04-24-2006, 04:56 PM
In actuality, the Inverter sold by Strydur doesn't run at 4kHz. I ran it on an oscope and it actually runs at closer to 10kHz.

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Strydur
04-24-2006, 05:02 PM
At what voltage?

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steel_darkblade
04-24-2006, 05:46 PM
I was running it off a bench at roughly 12V, but no more than 12.5V.

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james3
04-24-2006, 06:24 PM
Is that with or without a length of EL wire on it?

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steel_darkblade
04-24-2006, 06:29 PM
without, meaning that's what's getting fed INTO the EL wire, which is what people normally give when they talk about specs. Loading shouldn't affect the frequency going into the EL wire.

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Jedi Ranger
04-24-2006, 07:44 PM
Actually, it does. A short strip will be much brighter than a longer (double) strip.

With my EL grip hilt, the grip is nice and bright without a blade, but once the blade is connected, the brightness is 1/2. And the blade is 1/2 as bright as my other hilts that have just a blade.

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james3
04-24-2006, 08:29 PM
I have noticed the same thing between my kids sabers and my full size sabers. It would be interesting to get it on the oscilloscope to see what it runs at with 10,15,17,& 20 feet of wire attached.

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Do-Clo
04-25-2006, 06:37 AM
The inverter for the EL wire is basically an oscillator and depending upon the load attached to the output the frequencey will change, the shorter the wire the high the frequencey and the longer the wire the lower the frequencey.

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james3
04-25-2006, 06:49 AM
That is exactly what I was thinking which is why I was wondering when it hit 4Khz. We might be running higher if we are not maxing that puppy out.

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steel_darkblade
04-25-2006, 06:20 PM
Simply way would be to look at the specs for the wire you're using, looking at its electrical chars (conductance, capacitance, impedance) and doing the integration to find max length to hit 4Hz.

On a side note, the inverter still ran at about 10kHz loaded with my 32' blade.

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