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Lord_Jyensba_Lalne
04-08-2006, 07:15 PM
1. How do you get the sound from a Hasbro saber?
2. Is there a way to get sound without mometary switches?
3. Any specific inverters/battery numbers/types needed?
4. Are there any risks in using sound?(Frying, etc.)
5. Would this fit in a 1.5"x12" tube?
6. Is it even possible to put sound in an EL blade?(that's what I'm making)

I am fourteen years old, and not experienced with electronics. Please keep that in mind when I post.

suit_man
04-08-2006, 07:29 PM
please, read. reading is something that will help noobies. lucky i got to you before xwing. you will find these answers and more in this forum already.

i am a nerd, if you don't like it, i will cut you with my lightsaber

Do-Clo
04-08-2006, 07:40 PM
If you will follow the link posted below you will find the information you are looking for. Read the FAQ section and read the Thread Index, it is broken down into topics.

http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/sabers/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=12



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LAN-ED-TUL
04-08-2006, 08:44 PM
do the reading research, and if your still cornfused, then ask what you dont understand.

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04-09-2006, 10:21 AM
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Lord_Jyensba_Lalne
04-09-2006, 07:17 PM
Sorry, my masters. I will meditate on my mistakes.[:D]

As I was taking up too much room in another topic(s), and since this topic is here, this is what the electronics inside my Qui-Gon Lightsaber look like...kind of. The colors of the lines are the colors of the wires on both my lightsaber and on the EL electronics.(by EL electronics, I mean stuff you get from TCSS)

http://www.maj.com/gallery/Bakuta/MyLightsaber/elec.bmp

So what do I do to get this combined with EL electronics?(cutting wires, fusing wires, etc.)

The stuff on the right is EL electronics, and the stuff on the left is from the lightsaber I have. See that I have labeled everything, so that you may specify what wire you are talking about, and the parts the wire connects too.

Also, Blue B and Black D are both perminately attached to the saber.

Hopefully you can figure out my beautiful drawing.[:D]

LAN-ED-TUL
04-09-2006, 08:06 PM
dude, ya got yer lefts and right cornfused. el is on right and lightsabers stuff on left. duh.




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Do-Clo
04-09-2006, 08:40 PM
Since you don't really understand electronics the best thing for you to do is to remove the wires on the sound board that go to the led. Then install 2 switches one for sound and one for the el inverter. Install 2 battery packs one for your el blade and the other for your sound board and all will be well.

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LAN-ED-TUL
04-09-2006, 10:14 PM
i dunno do-clo, he cant tell left from right, LOL




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Do-Clo
04-10-2006, 06:57 AM
There is a simple solution to that one all that is required is to mark a L on the toe of the left shoe and a R on the toe of the right shoe. [:D]

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LAN-ED-TUL
04-10-2006, 09:27 AM
nah, hed writem upside down and have to take shoes off to read it and get it cornfused again, lol

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Lord_Jyensba_Lalne
04-10-2006, 11:44 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Do-Clo

Since you don't really understand electronics the best thing for you to do is to remove the wires on the sound board that go to the led. Then install 2 switches one for sound and one for the el inverter. Install 2 battery packs one for your el blade and the other for your sound board and all will be well.

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But I would like to have one switch to turn on the sound and EL blade at the same time. Would I just attach one of the wires from the momentary switch to the on/off switch?

Do-Clo
04-10-2006, 11:54 AM
We have worked on a way to use one switch but have not found a good solution yet so for the time being two switches are required.

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Lord_Jyensba_Lalne
04-10-2006, 12:15 PM
"The first step to true knowlege is admitting you are ignorant..."
^That's me^
Okay, this is finally taking shape, and I get most of it now. So IN CONCLUSION...My lightsaber with sound will have 2 switches, one to turn on the EL light, and one to turn on the sound.
One last set of questions.(I think)
1. When the sound board turns off(because of the momentary switch), will the EL light also turn off?
2. Can I first turn on the light switch, and then the sound switch, or does it have to be vice versa?
3. Is it possible to just have light and not sound with Luke's setup?('cause that's the one I'm using.) What I mean is, can I turn on the light, and not activate the sound, or do I need to turn on both to complete the circut?

Do-Clo
04-10-2006, 12:57 PM
The circuit that you call the luke one won't work if you read you will see that he says that it is very dim. Keep the el wiring and the sound wiring seperate and use two switches and two different battery packs and you will be fine and. With two switches you can have sound or light or both.

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Lord_Jyensba_Lalne
04-10-2006, 01:08 PM
Alright...I believe I have run out of questions.(*angels sing*) And thanks for all your help. Now, time to get the rest of the supplies for the hilt....

Do-Clo
04-10-2006, 01:16 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Lord_Jyensba_Lalne

Alright...I believe I have run out of questions.(*angels sing*) And thanks for all your help. Now, time to get the rest of the supplies for the hilt....
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Remember young padawan read the book[:D]

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Lord_Jyensba_Lalne
04-10-2006, 01:36 PM
Yes, Master.

Or in this case, the Thread Index.[}:)]

steel_darkblade
04-10-2006, 02:47 PM
So I've been working on this single switch problem and I think I came up with something in THEORY. Theoretically, you could use a SPDT switch, one of the positive leads powering up the Inverter directly. The other positive lead, you'd have to built what's called a One-Shot Multi-Vibrator using a 555 timer. This makes it so that when you turn the SPDT on, the One-Shot practically works like a momentary switch. I'm still working on the circuit design for it and will post it up, along with how I derived it hopefully by sometime this weekend.

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Lord_Jyensba_Lalne
04-10-2006, 02:51 PM
Shoot. One more question. What types of batteries and how much are safe to use on the sound? Would 2 AAs work?

xwingband
04-10-2006, 03:02 PM
As many as were on it origonally. The older quigon's used 3C's if I remember right. Any set of three AA or AAA will work since they have the same voltage (1.5V).

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Lord_Jyensba_Lalne
04-10-2006, 03:37 PM
Crud. I have a battery holder that can hold 2 AAs. To RadioShack...

Do-Clo
04-10-2006, 04:37 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by steel_darkblade

So I've been working on this single switch problem and I think I came up with something in THEORY. Theoretically, you could use a SPDT switch, one of the positive leads powering up the Inverter directly. The other positive lead, you'd have to built what's called a One-Shot Multi-Vibrator using a 555 timer. This makes it so that when you turn the SPDT on, the One-Shot practically works like a momentary switch. I'm still working on the circuit design for it and will post it up, along with how I derived it hopefully by sometime this weekend.

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I went through this idea a while back but the problem was how to overcome having a second switch for main power for the 555 circuit? If the circuit remains powered up all the time then the batteries will go dead so we are back to having two switches again. I haven't given up on the project it has just been shelved for awhile until I have time to devote to it. Good luck on your endevers though.

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Do-Clo
04-10-2006, 04:40 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Lord_Jyensba_Lalne

Crud. I have a battery holder that can hold 2 AAs. To RadioShack...
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Youg padawan you have forgotten the lesson of plan first build second. [:D] Hey it happens to the best of us, at least you can get what you need localy.

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Luke-SkyMarcher
04-10-2006, 06:44 PM
I did not say it was very dim, Do-Clo. I said it was dimmer than just without a soudboard attatched. And I am currently trying to work out a solution. If you use my diagram, you would have to modify it to use two switches, but you would still have the benifit of running it off of one battery. (however I still have to expiriment and do not know what that would do to brightness.) I will post if anything helpful popps up!

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Do-Clo
04-10-2006, 08:14 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Luke-SkyMarcher

I did not say it was very dim, Do-Clo. I said it was dimmer than just without a soudboard attatched. And I am currently trying to work out a solution. If you use my diagram, you would have to modify it to use two switches, but you would still have the benifit of running it off of one battery. (however I still have to expiriment and do not know what that would do to brightness.) I will post if anything helpful popps up!

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No offense but in order to get the brightness increased you need to connect your inverter directly to the battery ground and not feed it through the sound board. The ground you are using is a switched ground that controls the leds in a hasbro lightsaber and has resistance built in to prevent the leds from burning out. I am well aware of using a 7805 voltage regulator to power the sound board so that one battery can be used. But if you notice in this case this young man has no electronics experience and to make it simple on him I recommended the easiest solution for him to build his saber.

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Lord_Jyensba_Lalne
04-10-2006, 08:16 PM
Actually, Do-Clo, I meant I had a 2 AA battery clip laying around. It's not actually attached to my sound system. I'm going in to RadioShack later to get a 3 AA/AAA battery clip and mono jack later this week. Hopefully, I can get a friend of mine's dad to get me a tube and spacer for the blade holder. Then, I will have to send in my money for the stuff from this site. I'll have all my stuff after that for the hilt. Then the building starts...

Do-Clo
04-10-2006, 08:21 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Lord_Jyensba_Lalne

Actually, Do-Clo, I meant I had a 2 AA battery clip laying around. It's not actually attached to my sound system. I'm going in to RadioShack later to get a 3 AA/AAA battery clip and mono jack later this week. Hopefully, I can get a friend of mine's dad to get me a tube and spacer for the blade holder. Then, I will have to send in my money for the stuff from this site. I'll have all my stuff after that for the hilt. Then the building starts...
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Ah the spare parts box, I know it well. You might have to purchase a single battery holder if you can not find a 3 cell holder. You just wire third cell in series with the two cells and it will work fine. Let me know if you get stuck and I can email you a diagram to wire it up.

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Lord_Jyensba_Lalne
04-11-2006, 06:00 AM
Thanks, man. And to the post before(just tellin' ya, no offence meant), if someone were to tell me exactly what to get from a store, I could ask for help there. THen I would just need specific instructions on what to do. I suck at electronics, yes, but I follow directions very well.

And yeah...no idea how to wire another battery in series.[:D]
Guess: You take the positve wires of the two battery holders and combine them, and then the negative. Right?

Do-Clo
04-11-2006, 07:49 AM
To connect batteries in series you take the black wire from one battery pack and connect it to the red wire from the second battery pack, then you are left with one red and one black wire which are your positive and negative connections to your circuit. The voltage of batteries in series is equal to battery1 + battery2

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steel_darkblade
04-11-2006, 08:57 AM
[/quote]

I went through this idea a while back but the problem was how to overcome having a second switch for main power for the 555 circuit? If the circuit remains powered up all the time then the batteries will go dead so we are back to having two switches again. I haven't given up on the project it has just been shelved for awhile until I have time to devote to it. Good luck on your endevers though.

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[/quote]

But aren't you going to have that problem anyhow even with a momentary switch for just the sound module? The 555 timer shouldn't drain that much, and if it's one shot, meaning only one pulse is sent, then the drain from the 555 circuit should not be enough to drain your batteries. Also, what's the amp rating on your batteries? If it was a wimpy one to start with, then yeah, of course it's not going to last long. Anyways, I'll build the circuit by this weekend and give it a try, then i'll post my findings, lookout for it.

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Do-Clo
04-11-2006, 10:11 AM
[/quote]

But aren't you going to have that problem anyhow even with a momentary switch for just the sound module? The 555 timer shouldn't drain that much, and if it's one shot, meaning only one pulse is sent, then the drain from the 555 circuit should not be enough to drain your batteries. Also, what's the amp rating on your batteries? If it was a wimpy one to start with, then yeah, of course it's not going to last long. Anyways, I'll build the circuit by this weekend and give it a try, then i'll post my findings, lookout for it.

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[/quote]

The 555 timer draws around 15 ma in standby mode over a few day this is enough to drain the typical battery. Keep in mind we use AAA or AAA batteriers in our sabers which have an ok current rating but will not last that long with a steady drain. The sound board current draw is so little that it is hard to measure in standby mode so the batteries will last weeks in a hasbro sound board powered saber.
I was thinking about using a small socket with plug that could be used as a main power switch for the saber. One could take a plug and bridge the contacts on it then connect the jack as you would a switch then when the plug was inserted the cricuit would be closed and powered up, plug out powered off, You could make a knob to disguse the top of the plug and then build another plug assembly but without bridging the conacts and you would have something to put in the socket for display purposes.

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Lord_Jyensba_Lalne
04-11-2006, 02:02 PM
Could I use a momentary switch from RadioShack for the SB, or do I have to use the switch that came with the SB in the first place?

Do-Clo
04-11-2006, 02:07 PM
Yes you can use a monetary switch from RS just make sure it is a normally open type switch, it should say that on the package.

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LAN-ED-TUL
04-12-2006, 02:27 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Lord_Jyensba_Lalne

Could I use a momentary switch from RadioShack for the SB, or do I have to use the switch that came with the SB in the first place?
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steel_darkblade
04-12-2006, 12:42 PM
[/quote]

The 555 timer draws around 15 ma in standby mode over a few day this is enough to drain the typical battery. Keep in mind we use AAA or AAA batteriers in our sabers which have an ok current rating but will not last that long with a steady drain. The sound board current draw is so little that it is hard to measure in standby mode so the batteries will last weeks in a hasbro sound board powered saber.
I was thinking about using a small socket with plug that could be used as a main power switch for the saber. One could take a plug and bridge the contacts on it then connect the jack as you would a switch then when the plug was inserted the cricuit would be closed and powered up, plug out powered off, You could make a knob to disguse the top of the plug and then build another plug assembly but without bridging the conacts and you would have something to put in the socket for display purposes.

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Clo, didn't Gelu post something about using a Zener diode some time ago? I've been wracking my brain on how that would even work. And am I right in deducing that Luke's setup dims because by using his setup, you're effectively putting just 5V to the Inverter, not 12V? Do you think there's an electromechanical way of doing this single switch thing? I really need this darn thing to work on one switch.

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james3
04-12-2006, 01:01 PM
Just a thought and this may have been covered. What about using a relay for the inverter so that the momentary switch triggers the sound board and the relay that would supply 12v to the EL untill triggered again via the momentary? I think Do-Clo has explained the power split well enough so it really wouldn't be that big a deal. Being that you are using a 1.5 sink tube you have plenty of room you could even use a programable relay though they are not cheap.

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Do-Clo
04-12-2006, 01:03 PM
I am not sure what voltage is actually being applied to the inverter in Luke's setupwithout measuring the voltage. I built an intercom/PA system for a fruit packing plant a few years ago and I used a toggle switch that was double throw double pole. But waht made this switch different was that one side of thcenter was a latching switch and the other side was a momentary swicth this could be made to work if you could find one that was small enough to fit in the hilt. The switch I used was a large industrial toggle switch rated at 250 volts 10 amps overkill for a saber.

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Do-Clo
04-12-2006, 01:08 PM
James that setup would work if you could find a relay that will stay latched until hit with another momentary switch contact. Try searching for Potter Brumfield relays as I have one that has a time delayed momentary switch closure that is controlled by 110 volts being apllied but that sucker cost $100.00 not cheap.

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james3
04-12-2006, 01:18 PM
I have always used Corby 86 programable relays for stuff like this. They have all kinds of cool things I have used these for and I think they are a bit cheaper.

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Do-Clo
04-12-2006, 01:24 PM
Most of the stuff that I do is industrial that is why I know the potter brumfield line of relays.

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james3
04-12-2006, 01:32 PM
They make awsome stuff but like you said industrial grade big time.

The Corby stuff is pretty much the same way since their bread and butter is access controls. I just found that I could use these little buggers around the house for all kids of stuff.

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Lord_Jyensba_Lalne
04-12-2006, 01:55 PM
About the combining of battery packs:
How would you connect a battery clip to the 4khz inverter from this site? The inverter directly goes to the 9V holder thing...So you can't connect another wire...I don't think...Could you post a diagram?

Do-Clo
04-12-2006, 02:12 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Lord_Jyensba_Lalne

About the combining of battery packs:
How would you connect a battery clip to the 4khz inverter from this site? The inverter directly goes to the 9V holder thing...So you can't connect another wire...I don't think...Could you post a diagram?
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Tim already has an adapter wired up to make it easy: http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/sabers/Scripts/prodList.asp?idCategory=22

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Lord_Jyensba_Lalne
04-12-2006, 04:13 PM
I meant I want to use a 9V battery and 2 AAs. The only ones in the shop are a 2-9V and an 8-AA.

Okay. Here is a diagram of what I think the connections are going to be for my lightsaber. Red lines=positive, black lines=negative.
Any problems? Suggestions?

http://www.maj.com/gallery/Bakuta/MyLightsaber/final_hookups.bmp

LAN-ED-TUL
04-12-2006, 05:28 PM
you can if you get the aa battery pack with the 9 volt connector on the end of it. it then simply plugs on tims y harness on one side and the 9v battery on the other.

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steel_darkblade
04-12-2006, 05:46 PM
I really just cannot believe that no one has yet to succeed in coming up with a single switch setup for a Hasbro sound module EL saber... Well, back to the drawing board I guess...

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Do-Clo
04-12-2006, 06:00 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Lord_Jyensba_Lalne

I meant I want to use a 9V battery and 2 AAs. The only ones in the shop are a 2-9V and an 8-AA.

Okay. Here is a diagram of what I think the connections are going to be for my lightsaber. Red lines=positive, black lines=negative.
Any problems? Suggestions?

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I reworked your diagram and this will work well for youI added a second 9 volt battery and on the diagram were the black wire crosses the red wire do not connect these points. This hould give you a bright el blade.

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xwingband
04-12-2006, 06:12 PM
I think he wanted to make use of that 2AA holder. 12V is the sweet spot too...

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Do-Clo
04-12-2006, 06:19 PM
It is not wise to mix different types of batteries such as a 9 volt and AA batteries because there mah capacities are different so as the the 9 volt decreases it will start to drain the AA cels which will result in short battery life and maybe some extra heat generated that one does not want.

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xwingband
04-12-2006, 06:24 PM
I forgot about that. That wouldn't be a good result.[xx(] Yeah, use the 2AA holder some other time.

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Lord_Jyensba_Lalne
04-12-2006, 06:49 PM
Sweeeeet. And now I don't have to worry about that wire I lobbed off, thinking I didn't need it. Thanks dudes! Now I think I know what I'm doing. Thanks again!
Eh....Red is positive, right?[?]

xwingband
04-12-2006, 06:58 PM
Yup, red is traditionally positive and black negative.

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Do-Clo
04-12-2006, 07:03 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Lord_Jyensba_Lalne

Sweeeeet. And now I don't have to worry about that wire I lobbed off, thinking I didn't need it. Thanks dudes! Now I think I know what I'm doing. Thanks again!
Eh....Red is positive, right?[?]
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Remember always cut the red wire or was that the blue wire??????
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Lord_Jyensba_Lalne
04-12-2006, 07:07 PM
Okay. NOW I know what I'm doing.

Actually, I'm going to take out the 1MOhm. I just don't think I'll really need it.

Do-Clo
04-12-2006, 09:17 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Lord_Jyensba_Lalne

Okay. NOW I know what I'm doing.

Actually, I'm going to take out the 1MOhm. I just don't think I'll really need it.
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Tim had stated that he doesn't use them anymore on the el sabers he builds. It was there to protect the inverter from blowing if you had left the blade off of the hilt and turned it on.

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LAN-ED-TUL
04-12-2006, 09:54 PM
yeah, i have had mine on by accident both the 2 and 4 khz ones and they were left on till the battery was dead, by accident, and they still work with a fresh battery, once i found out. but i only use 1 9 volt on there too. yeah, it may not be as bright as dual 9's would be, but then your pushing the limits on the inverters. shortening the life of it. at least that is what i understood.

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Lord_Jyensba_Lalne
04-13-2006, 06:00 AM
Well, whenever I am not using it, I am just gonna take out the batteries.

james3
04-13-2006, 06:41 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Remember always cut the red wire or was that the blue wire??????


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Do-Clo....

GRAB THE CAT!!!!

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Do-Clo
04-13-2006, 07:16 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by james3

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Remember always cut the red wire or was that the blue wire??????


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Do-Clo....

GRAB THE CAT!!!!

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Sorry I don't deal with cats, dogs only[8D]

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james3
04-13-2006, 12:40 PM
I thought you were using a line out of the lethal weapon movies I was just playing off of that.

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Do-Clo
04-13-2006, 12:55 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by james3

I thought you were using a line out of the lethal weapon movies I was just playing off of that.

Lan=cats DoClo=dogs [:D]




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Missed that one I am a little off today.

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LAN-ED-TUL
04-15-2006, 11:22 PM
cat huh? im not sure how to take that. i think me and do-clo get along just fine.lol

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htmagic
08-16-2006, 08:18 AM
Dear Do-Clo,

I have read (some) of the posts concerning sound modules and picked up on your statement of using a 7805 voltage regulator for a one-battery system. But when you do that, you basically have to disconnect the wire from the board and solder it to the output lead on the 7805. It can be done but it's somewhat a pain. But then you have the blade clash and everything else. And if you're smart, you can make a 9 volt adapter so you can plug in the module and run the EL driver off the sound module. You'll still have the switch for the EL blade but the switch on the sound module (when connected) will be like the master switch. [^]

Why isn't everyone doing it that way or are there drawbacks on that system? Please explain. [:0]

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Do-Clo
08-16-2006, 09:36 AM
If you look in the thread index you will find a link to a solution I came up with for the EL saber with a hasbro sound board using only one switch. out of everything I have tried this works the best, check it out.

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xwingband
08-16-2006, 12:49 PM
Bill, besides I don't understand what you are getting at, Do-Clo HAS already created a one-switch option that doesn't have any drawbacks other than it's more soldering. His solution is quite elegant... check it out, I indexed it.

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james3
08-16-2006, 01:43 PM
yep, did one like that and it is right on. You won't be disappointed.

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Do-Clo
08-16-2006, 02:20 PM
That set up will also work with a 5 watt luxeon just use 6 AA batteries for 9 volts

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LAN-ED-TUL
08-16-2006, 08:44 PM
listen lord do-clo must you,. right is he!!!

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