Supplying Arms for a War: Rebel Empire Lightsaber Orders Thread

[Alcfalath]

As some of you may know, I am a member of a group of fight choreographists and theatrical performers creating a storyline in the KOTOR Era of the Star Wars universe, based around the Sith Wars etc...

Since the progress of my lightsabers that I am still putting together has aroused much interest with many of the others, I have been put to the task of designs and commissions to order and assemble Character specific basic stunt sabers for the theater side of the performance. When going to film it will be carbon fibre rods etc...

Here are some of the sabers so far coming up for ordering,

Jedi Master Kai'h Sabers (P4 White Shoto's)
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w238/Alcfalath/KaihSabers.png

Darth Nocturne Saber (P4 with Lee Filter Purple standard Saber)
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w238/Alcfalath/saberBuilder_render.png

Jedi Knight Elias Saber (K2 or Lux 3 Royal Blue Custom)
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w238/Alcfalath/CamSaberVictoryfinal2.png

Mech Golem Manevolence (P4 Red and White with Purple filter Dual blade Saber, used primarily as a single handed)
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w238/Alcfalath/Malevolenceedit.png
or this one..
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w238/Alcfalath/MalevolenceWhite.png

I can't decide just yet which colour scheme i prefer. (this saber is my secondary not so nice characters one)

More sabers will be posted when they are designed, or from others in the group on here who are in my design and assemble team :D

[Alcfalath]

Almost forgetting, here are my 2 Jedi Sabers

Jedi Knight Alcfalath Ringlosse (LuxV Green)
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w238/Alcfalath/EquilibriumFinal.jpg

Jedi Master Alcfalath Ringlosse (LuxV Cyan, Bin 2 I think.. a nice Turquoise colour :D )
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w238/Alcfalath/RestitudeFinal-1.jpg

[ketsuraku_anei]

so now we are going international Alc?


I can’t believe they are actually going to trust us with these awesomely shiny weapons of choice...

Kaneda will keep us in line... oh wait, no he won’t... he will be the one leading us on the onslaught XD


But anyway here are the sabers I have come up with….

Jedi Knight Anei Zanthian Saber “Origin” (P4 white primary, also cyan later)
http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/rosuto_seishou/originfinalcopy.jpg


Fallen Jedi Knight Anei Zanthian Saber “Tempus” (Red)
http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/rosuto_seishou/tempuscopy-1.jpg

And here is a Design I came up with for Darth Terras... But Darth Terras rejected it... So I am hoping it will be used by someone else…

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/rosuto_seishou/bronzesaber.png

[Jedi-Loreen]

Looks like you have a lot of work ahead of you, Matt!

[Onli-Won Kanomi]

I particularly like Restitude and Origin but all are very nice indeed.

[Alcfalath]

Tell me about it J-Lo... its just a simple Resistor setup, but itll do the job.. If it looks good and makes the kiddies happy (both the audience and the inner child of the person using it :D) thats all that matters...

That and if it looks good of course :D And Cheers Onli-Won Kanomi, I do love Restitude to bits, and Origin is alway going to give me a headache, but its a sound hilt and worth the trouble it has given me so far :D

[Sairon]

Ketsuraku-anei, I just noticed on the Darth Terras saber the pomel is backwards, might want to switch it around. Overal these sabers look great!

[Ideal]

the Jedi Knight Elias Saber looks really long. that being said, im interested to see how that one turns out, as im thinkin about making a long hilted saber myself

[Alcfalath]

Ideal, the practice saber he has atm works like a charm, so its very doable. Think of a long bladed spear of sorts, with a shorter shaft.. Long reach, and can do a whole load of different styled fighting, but still be used as a saber.

OK Im throwing this out to all of you here... Got a reply from Tim about an email i sent him a week ago, and with deadlines coming up im running out of time.
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w238/Alcfalath/MalevolenceWhite.png
This saber is up next, and I need to have it finished by the 7th of April at the latest, as with the other sabers (pending I get sent the money to order them, and Tim brings back the PC into the store in time if i cant get it done elsewhere).

Anyways, Tim isnt sure that the batteries will fit in this saber... and has said ask the audience. Basically its a Double Bladed saber, with a 5 inch centre section. 2 Switches side by side, and 2 16500 Trustfire Batteries Per circuit. I was under the impression that this would fit, but if Tim has raised a doubt, then i want to throw it to you guys. Has anyone done anything similar, and has it worked? Im not too fussed getting the next size Double Female, but id rather smaller...

What do you guys think?

[Sairon]

I'm thinking you are going to need a bigger centre section, plus it will add mor grip space.

[Anavrin]

I see that as being... questionable, in terms of fit. It's tight at best. Might be good to give yourself more like 7 inches, or just direct drive with a momentary switch–a reed swtich of some sort, perhaps?–that can be based entirely on the outside of the handle, freeing more inside space. You'd have to play with it a lot. Small is hard.

[Darth_DevilGuy]

yeah I think it'll need more length to the center, even a resistor setup will be tight in that one, I don't see how you could fit 4 batteries in it.

[Alcfalath]

Well 7 inches is definately out of the question really, as its already getting a bit long already, but i 'can' stretch to 6 maybe.. ive got some gear here consisting of pretty much everything ill need for this saber (in the form of 3 different sabers so im very reluctant in having to disassemble them for it) and id rather not go down that path if someone has already done it.

But its meant to be wielded very easily as a one hander (with a bonus/secret blade) so the shorter the better in this case. that and it just looks ****y with too long a middle section, ruining the whole shape of the saber... :S

And Tight is always good :D Seems like i may have to butcher my sabers in the end to find out. Smeg :S

[Sairon]

For batteries, so you could have a smaller hilt still you could try cr123's as they are samll.

[Anavrin]

For batteries, so you could have a smaller hilt still you could try cr123's as they are samll.

I'd rather say go with two sets of AAA's to save space.

[ketsuraku_anei]

I'd rather say go with two sets of AAA's to save space.

getting AAA batteries wont actually save space. if you go with the AAA you would have to have more of them because they dont hold as much power as the AA. there for leading to the requirement of more which then leads to less space available.

best option would be to stick with AA because you would need less of them to power the saber...

good option is the trustfire batteries... but then.. alc knows that already...

[Jedi-Loreen]

AAa and AAAs have the same voltage (I guess what you mean by "power"?). The AAs just give a longer run time than the AAAs.

[Goodman]

For that short double hilt, three 14500 Li-ion cells in a pyramid configuration, wired in parallel to both LEDs with at least resistors, and using only one shallow latching switch two activate both LEDs....MIGHT work. You'd have 11.1V to play with.

If you didn't mind underdriving the LEDs slightly (I'm assuming you're using LuxIII/P4), you could just use a dual AA cell holder (14500s are a tight fit, but they fit) in the center of the hilt, and use the extra clearance above the holder to mount the switch. With two cells, you'd have 7.2V, split between the two LEDs.

I can fit a USv2, twin 14500 holder, speaker/mount, kill switch, tactile switch inside a 5" section, including the ~1/2" lost by the intruding heatsink post. Tight is tight, but it is possible.

Worst case, go up to a 6" section and it will go from nearly impossible to easy.

***EDIT***

I just put one together and I can confirm to you that two heat sinks, two 14500 cells, a resistor, and a micro latching switch (double post, single throw) DO FIT in a 5" section. So, you're home free. :)

[Sairon]

Lol, I just had the best idea, solar power sheeting near the emmiter so it could run forever. Lol if only this would work.:rolleyes:

[Anavrin]

AAa and AAAs have the same voltage (I guess what you mean by "power"?). The AAs just give a longer run time than the AAAs.

*nods* Thanks, J-Lo. My point exactly. And you can /always/ just toss in a new set as needed.

[Alcfalath]

Adele was referring to run time, but more so on the priority of size comparison, and not using up all the space inside the hilt (from looking over my shoulder while experimenting with saber setups while I find a new way that I cant do something)..

Going off area size, its far better to have 2 AA sized batteries (that you can recharge easily and dont need to buy new ones constantly) than have 4 AAA ones that would need replacing once they are dull and no longer bright enough. That and rechargable AAA's over here cost more than the trustfires!

That and I have an abundance of Trustfires from my previous order that I need to put into sabers... right now every saber I have has 2 spare trustfires each...

[ketsuraku_anei]

I was.. infact talking more about size comparison then actually running the saber... i admit my wording was exaclty the best in the world...

Alc managed to cover what I was trying to say in my post with his one just before mine...

Going off area size, its far better to have 2 AA sized batteries (that you can recharge easily and dont need to buy new ones constantly) than have 4 AAA ones that would need replacing once they are dull and no longer bright enough.

In saying that... 2 AA batteries take up far less room then 4 AAA...

[Alcfalath]

Well, from what ive seen, to get it done the way i want it im going to have to conceed another inch, making it 14 inches, to the centre section (unless any one else chimes in before i put my order through, when the Powdercoating option comes back that is... and hopefully within a week too or ill miss my deadline). No matter there, ill just have to get use to looking at and using a saber that is a bit longer than its intended purpose :p

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w238/Alcfalath/MalevolenceWhiteedit2.jpg
Anyways, this is what it will end up like. Note the 2 covertec knobs on the back.. Yes you may think this will be uncomfortable, but ill be using the chokes as a grip primarily, so they wont get in the way. Basically it will be mounted horizontally across the front of my belt and drawn as such that it will be a very Makashi based saber, hence wanting it as short as possible. Just waiting on the P4 White and the Powdercoating to come back into the store so i can order it and get it here before April 11th :P

Comments or queries on the saber anyone?

[Lord Preston]

Why do you need 2 buttons for that saber?

[Anavrin]

Anyways, this is what it will end up like. Note the 2 covertec knobs on the back.. Yes you may think this will be uncomfortable, but ill be using the chokes as a grip primarily, so they wont get in the way. Basically it will be mounted horizontally across the front of my belt and drawn as such that it will be a very Makashi based saber, hence wanting it as short as possible.

As a note, the covertech paddle retainer thing (the big black one) might be /too/ big to fit two so close together. You'll want to experiment with that before having holes drilled. Or use the alternate clip that I know exists somewhere.

and you may want to consider a back draw for appearances sake–it might look odd having this horizontal bar across your abdomen ;)

[Alcfalath]

Why do you need 2 buttons for that saber?

See post 9


As a note, the covertech paddle retainer thing (the big black one) might be /too/ big to fit two so close together. You'll want to experiment with that before having holes drilled. Or use the alternate clip that I know exists somewhere.

Thats the idea, ive got one bought and one coming now of the stainless steel clips.



and you may want to consider a back draw for appearances sake–it might look odd having this horizontal bar across your abdomen ;)

Oh thats the idea... Dont worry, it looks quite alright and works exactly for what it will need to do (stunt and filming purposes)... :D and there are other plans for it to be mounted there as well ;)

[Alcfalath]

Bit of a Necro Post for this, but a few more additions to the list.

Firstly, Alcfalath's Padawan Shoto Sabers. Lee Filters Oklahoma Yellow blade run off of a P4 White. Yoda soundboards going in them once they are built. Trans Gold and Trans Brass PC work on those, however Trans brass may be swapped for Copper Metal Jacket

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w238/Alcfalath/Padawanshotos.png

Next up is Kanan Halcyon's saber. Styled for Shien backhand combat, with a Lux 3 White.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w238/Alcfalath/SpikesHilt.png

After that is General Demor's Sith Claymore. Red Lux 3, with Black PolyC Blade. 2 Crystal Chambers in the build, with a Claw setup and the Acerocket Obi TPM Pommel. PC is Trans "Candy Wine" (bloodlike) and Solar Flat Black. Demor stands at over 6'7" hence the long hilt and 40.5" Blade. Corbin Driver awaiting soundboard.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w238/Alcfalath/Vermillion.png

And as a non related saber, this one will be a birthday present for a good friends (my other halfs 'twin') 16th Birthday. Has no idea im flying over to the other side of the country to giver her this. Amber Lux 3 with Amber/Red Quartz Crystal Chamber, Buckpuck and Solar Flat Black PC on the Gear, with Copper Metal Jacket on the Pommel and Bladeholder.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w238/Alcfalath/saber5.png

More to come at a later date, as well as the physical photos of said sabers :) Maybe even a Vid :D

[dgdve]

i love what your doing with your renders, keep up the good work!! IMPRESSIVE

[Thaxos]

After that is General Demor's Sith Claymore. Red Lux 3, with Black PolyC Blade. 2 Crystal Chambers in the build, with a Claw setup and the Acerocket Obi TPM Pommel. PC is Trans "Candy Wine" (bloodlike) and Solar Flat Black. Demor stands at over 6'7" hence the long hilt and 40.5' Blade. Corbin Driver awaiting soundboard.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w238/Alcfalath/Vermillion.png


FORTY AND A HALF FEET LONG???
I think you meant 40.5" ;)
That would be one crazy lightsaber!

[annon]

forty and a half feet long???
I think you meant 40.5" ;)
that would be one crazy lightsaber!

run away!!

[Alcfalath]

Well he is a big guy... Edit made