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Luke-SkyMarcher
04-02-2006, 01:45 PM
There are some things I have thought would be interesting or useful, in the areas of lightsabers, if they could possibly be accomplished.

Do plasma sabers have to be in a glass tube? I have never seen one in person, so I was wondering if they get really hot so you can't do them in plastic tubes instead of glass? If a duelable plasma saber was ever made, it would certainly become quite popular. I know I would want one!

Is it possible to wire up some kind of circut just in front of a normal push on/off switch so that when you turn the saber on it sort of fades in(quickly)till it gets to full brightness? That would be a cool effect.

Also, since hasbro sabers are phasing out and will become increasingly hard to find as a source of sound fx, will it be possible to build some type of soundboard? And if so, we could give them nice realistic power-up, power-down, hum, and clash sounds. a clash sensor couldn't be too hard to build. Also if we could get a motion sensor like they use here http://www.futurehorizons.net/saber.htm with a better sounding hum, it would be awesome. Or maybie we could get them to sell just the sensor...

anyway just some things I've been pondering, hoping somone knowledgeable in these areas can shed some light here...

-Luke

xwingband
04-02-2006, 02:12 PM
Plasma sabers have to be in something that doesn't easily allow the gas to escape. Nothing can stop it but a really dense object like glass can make the gas stay in for decades. I just suggested recently glassfilled PolyC in the "real lightsaber" thread of the welcome forum. I have no clue if it would work though... So the issue is the gas not heat, it hardly heats up at all.

Is it possible to wire up some kind of circut just in front of a normal push on/off switch so that when you turn the saber on it sort of fades in(quickly)till it gets to full brightness? That would be a cool effect.

If you mean in a plasma saber it can be done... look at www.amazing1.com

There are many people out there doing soundbards, but as of yet none are competative with a Hasbro and probably never will be even against a $20 one. XGundam05 is working on a driver that incorperates sound and an LED driver, alone he can make it at about $10 but in larger numbers he'd be lucky to sell it below $20.

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Luke-SkyMarcher
04-02-2006, 02:53 PM
actually I was more thinking El in the "fade in" thing...
also, it seems that futurehorizons is already doing somthing similar to what you suggested, only they charge a fortune for it.[:D]

xwingband
04-02-2006, 03:44 PM
Okay, I see what you mean but why is that kind of fade appealing? It's not a movie thing and I don't think it looks any better...

Either way you can get the up/down with plasma easily.

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Enolmano
04-03-2006, 06:19 AM
couldn't you use plexiglas film in a polycarbonate tube? I don't know much abaout this...its just a thought...

xwingband
04-03-2006, 06:29 AM
Plexiglass is usually a term used for another plastic, usually acrylic. It wouldn't work.

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UltraSWG
04-03-2006, 01:58 PM
Polycarbonate isn't dense enough to prevent the gas from escaping, that's why they don't make flourescent lights out of polycarb, instead, they make polycarb sleeves for the glass bulbs.

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Luke-SkyMarcher
04-10-2006, 06:50 PM
Somthing else I forgot to mention... I was thinking about making a waterproof saber. (most likely EL). I think that would look really cool in a pool or lake after dark. The blade couldn't be removable, and you'd have to caulk it with epoxy or silicone. The biggest problem would be how to keep the bottom waterproof and removable for changing the battery...

I was thinking "fade in" because it would look closer to the movie that suddenly flashing on at full brightness.(in my opinion)

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UltraSWG
04-10-2006, 11:58 PM
EL uses AC current, so water = bad.

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Enolmano
04-11-2006, 12:45 AM
Waterproof saber? THATS a cool idea... for the blade you just put a lot of silicone and maybe some O-ring and for the bottom you could use O-rings or simply weld it together. (but then you must have some other place to switch batteries) They are waterproof hand-torches, and they usually gots O-rings in the bottom or wereever you open it... so it wouldent (spells how??) be impossible...


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UltraSWG
04-11-2006, 01:33 AM
It isn't just the hilt you have to waterproof, it's the blade. The mono jack has AC current running to it and any water on that thing will blow the inverter. You would have to make a completely self contained saber without a removable blade, which is doable, but the blade and hilt would be very boyant with all that air trapped in them.

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Nightwing
04-11-2006, 07:13 AM
So what about LED? Why is it any less possible?

Do-Clo
04-11-2006, 08:35 AM
Water and electronics just don't mix it possible to make a completely sealed saber with a fixed blade that is water tight but:

Problem 1 making thing water tight that were not designed to be water tight is a real pain in the rear area

Problem 2 if you do manage to get it water tight forget dueling with it because if the seal splits or cracks from the force of impact then it will no longer be water tight.

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Enolmano
04-11-2006, 08:50 AM
I was thinking of LED in my post...and if you get the "emitter" waterproof it shouldn't be to hard... and with LED there is no electronics in the blade...So I think that would work...

okey...maybe not dueling... If something happens... But why not night-snorkeling???

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Firebird21
04-11-2006, 08:59 AM
A water tight saber would not be hard...

I'm thinking MHS with "O"-Rings between all sections.
The blade, or the emmiter, could be fasioned to also hold an "O"-Ring.

Keep it greases with vasalene and you should be golden there...


The only problem would be the Switch... You'd have to find a water tight switch.

You may be able to use the switch covers that Tim sells, but I don't know how well you could seal them, because I've never used one.


Water tight saber- Possible...
Weak point, the switch.


Edit:
Oh yeah, and forget about sound!
Also, the base of the treads on the hilt parts could be designed with a slight bevel to better hold an "O"-Ring.

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Enolmano
04-11-2006, 12:39 PM
Hmmm...the switch is a bit of a problem...it wouln't be nice if it just fell of in an underwater-duel ... The cover Tim sells, (and Idon't know how the looks like, or could b used) but couln't you just glue it on the inside and maybe fix it in place with some silicone? or just take a more flat switch and put (a lot of) tape over it??

EDIT: I think there is some kinda waterproof headphones...for the sound [:o)]

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Devilstar2k2
04-11-2006, 01:15 PM
Vasoline is corrosive to rubber... Use Dow-33 instead...

james3
04-11-2006, 01:52 PM
You know Obi-Wan was running like a little girl when he and Qui Gonn Jinn landed on Naboo because he got his lightsaber wet and it wouldn't work so Qui-Gon had to give him a smack down after he took out the droids that were chasing him.

Read the book it's in there.

Point is electronics and water don't mix, it would seem to me to be a real pain in the arse to try and build something that wouldn't be true to the nature of the weapon to begin with.

With that said, I made a few PVC flashlights for the kids a few years ago so what you proposing could be done but it won't be cheap.

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Devilstar2k2
04-11-2006, 01:58 PM
Yeah...? Well, Kit Fisto uses his UNDER WATER... lol... [:D][:p][;)]

LAN-ED-TUL
04-11-2006, 02:53 PM
you might do one up with out a sound board, since underwater ya wont hear it anyways. and like mentioned before, use o rings or silicone sealer on everything to seal it up.

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Luke-SkyMarcher
04-13-2006, 06:57 PM
Actually I was thinking a real simple design - without a switch. You would turn it on by plugging in the battery. I was also thinking permenantly affixed blade with silicone or epoxy sealing the top and bottom.

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TyGore1342
04-15-2006, 03:22 AM
One real easy idea would be to use a maglite flashlight. I know those things are water proof from swimming in rivers with them. I know there are a lot of people out there make saber from maglites. Just figure a way to seal the blade completely and you could have whatever lighting you wanted, be EL of LED. The switch is waterproof, no weak spot there.

LAN-ED-TUL
04-16-2006, 12:10 AM
a possible idea.

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