Tri-Rebels... we may have something.

[Malaki Skywalker]

Hey guys, I may have found an effective set up for using a Tri-Rebel, I've sourced the LED's, the Battery pack and Reflectors for modding (I've also contacted acerocket about machining some custom reflectors)

This setup will work with a Corbin driver, BuckPuck. maybe a US v2 (12V Max?). Not with the CF until it can handle 13V or more.

Here's the source for the LED's: http://www.ledsupply.com/07007-pm01-50-3.php

Blue Specs:
#54 lm @ 350mA
# 114 lm @ 700mA
# 1000mA - Max Drive Current
# 9.45Vf - Typ. Forward Voltage 350mA
# 10.2Vf - Typ. Forward Voltage 700mA
# 470nm - Typ. Wavelength
# 140° - Viewing Angle
# 150° C - Max Juntion Temperature
# LXML-PB01-0018 - Rebel Part#

Green Specs:
# 150 lm @ 350mA
# 285 lm @ 700mA
# 1000mA - Max Drive Current
# 9.45Vf - Typ. Forward Voltage 350mA
# 10.2Vf - Forward Voltage 700mA
# 539nm - Typ. Wavelength
# 140° - Viewing Angle
# 150° C - Max Juntion Temperature
# LXML-PM01-0050 - Rebel Part#

And here's the battery pack: http://www.batteryspace.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=2576

It should get a good hour or so maybe more. Seeing as its Li-Ion its probably the only battery setup at this point in time, that takes up little space.

Reflectors: http://www.quickar.com/ims.pdf

With a little bit of DIY, these will work, a few members have done this before.

So, think it will work? I'll give it a shot myself soon enough.

Tell me what you think :)

Malaki :)

[Count Malik]

good find... Sweet!

[Strydur]

Let me know how they work and I will stock the led's and reflectors..maybe even the battery packs.

[Malaki Skywalker]

Let me know how they work and I will stock the led's and reflectors..maybe even the battery packs.

I soooo hope this works! :shock:

[Onli-Won Kanomi]

Will those reflectors fit the triple rebel Endors? The PDF only seems to indicate them being used with single LEDs...or are you suggesting they would have to be 'modded' somehow?

[Darth Morbius]

Will those reflectors fit the triple rebel Endors? The PDF only seems to indicate them being used with single LEDs...or are you suggesting they would have to be 'modded' somehow?

They would need to be modified.

Tim, There is a small problem with those reflectors. Most of them will not fit in the MHS bladeholders with the Standard Heatsink.

They work fine in the MR kits though.

[LeMoel]

yeah I posted a link on these a bit ago. but I think they should work with the 25 degree optics.

just depends if you want to run an led off of 9v's

[Lord Dottore Matto]

Let me know how they work and I will stock the led's and reflectors..maybe even the battery packs.

The LED's work great, very bright!:D:cool:

[xwingband]

Yeah, the reflector would need modding. Not good, because then you don't know what you're getting at all.

IMO the best way will be with the DIY PCB's available and the normal optics we have with the appropriate holders. I'll have to stick my money where my mouth is though... I need time though. It will probably be december at the earliest before I test that.

[Novastar]

Good battery choice Malaki... hey, it's funny--I remember making a request of that company to put up that exact pack. At the time, they only had a "triangle" setup for 3.6v (x3)... I requested the 11.1v thing, not expecting they'd actually *DO* it... but... they did!

I feel bad because... I never ordered even one since I didn't end up using 11.1v... it was initially going to be for... my CF v2.61, hhahahah. Instead I stuck with 7.2/7.4.

Anyhow... everyone should understand that even though the specs say "9.45v" for the trip-endor... yup... 11v is going to be a LOT better (especially if you use a DRIVER), since it will be pointing more toward running 1A, not 350mA.

This is also another reason why I've found it very comfortable to direct drive "3.85 fwd v" Luxeons with "3.7v" Li-Ions. Because we all know the ACTUALS are more than that if you want the "max continuous current". X-Wing demonstrated something of this nature in one of his videos with a Lux III Red and a dedicated power supply.

[MoonDragn]

Heh, I was planning on trying out the tri-rebels myself so last week I ordered the pcb and a few of the red rebels. I plan on using the $20 desoldering iron mod to make my own hot air gun to solder the rebels.

For power I got two 18650 2400 mah ultrafires and the protection board and fuse to build my own battery pack. Since I will only be running in 6V I plan on using the rebels in parallel instead of series. Also using 6V because I plan on putting one of the ANH MR FX sound boards I have in the hilt.

For reflector I am using one almost similar to the one you listed. But it fits in a 1.5 " hilt. Still needs to be modded because I plan on putting this in a 1.25" hilt. Some parts of this hilt is only 1" wide so thats where the batteries will go. The sound card will be in the pommel with the big hasboro speaker.

I already ordered everything last Tuesday so it should be in anyday now. Gonna be putting all of this in my curved almost dooku saber.

I'll post some pictures when I can get a working digital camera going.

[LeMoel]

was the 25 degree optics a failure for the rgb? was there any potiencial?

[MoonDragn]

yeah total failure for me at least. It was too diffuse. the light flared at the base and didn't quite reach the tip.

[LeMoel]

so it just didnt color mix very well?

[MoonDragn]

No, the color mixed just fine. But the 25 degrees lens spread the light too wide, so there was not enough of it to reach the end of the saber.

I was using a thick ultra blade at the time too.

I think with a normal reflector it would have been fine.

[Novastar]

Right, a "25 degree" lens is a bad idea (almost no matter how you slice it) for the purposes of an LED saber. Even if the blade length is "short" (say < 30"). Which I think would defeat the purpose of bothering with something as complex as Rebels, RGB, etc.

In general, the lenses can't really be much more than "10 degree" if you want it to work well. In general.

[Malaki Skywalker]

I think I've found something... http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.5960

Maybe with a little modification to the opening and correct threading to the inside of the blade holder, this could work.

Thought's? :?