Luxeon K2

[ishtob]

I just recently heard of these Luxeon K2, which are supposably brighter and generates less heat, cant really find much informations on it and have no idea where to find retails that sells it, anyone have more information then I do plz share [:)]

[Strydur]

They are not for sale until around april of 2006. I have some samples on the way and will share info.

Tim
The Custom Saber Shop

[LAN-ED-TUL]

i found this:

www.lumileds.com/lightfair2005/Luxeon_K2_Lightfair.pdf

its about the k2's

[Strydur]

Thats what the ones I got look like. Needs some sort of mount for it. I still have not hooked them up to test them out yet.

Tim
The Custom Saber Shop

[LAN-ED-TUL]

yeah from the looks of the pic of it, it may be a tricky deal to figure out a mounting. does it look like it will have to have an optics setup like the L 3's? looks like it doesnt, but tim would know more than me about it.

if it has the same type underside like the L3's do, then you should be able to use the plastic screws in a similar way to bolt it to the heatsink plate. maybe even a small plastic strap across it.

as far as the connectors, once you soldered the wires on you could use heatshrink tubing on them to insulate them from arking out on the heatsink plate. or just bend them up a bit so they dont touch.

i wish i had one then i could try and figure out something.

[UltraSWG]

The K2's are in emitter form for the time being. You can mount them to an aluminum plate easily enough with any standard thermal epoxy, you'll just have to insulate the electrodes on the sides.

The K2 has the highest operating currents and highest core temperature ratings. Which means they will be brighter and require less heatsinking. What I like is that you can run 350ma to them and they will be brighter than a Star I and will require minimal, if any, heatsinking in emitter form.

With such a small form factor, we could start putting the LED's inside the base of the blades and start offering interchangable blades with mono jacks. Then people can buy just the hilt which contains the driver/sound/power pack and buy any color blade they want, just like EL.

[Strydur]

Thats a cool idea Ultra.. Once they start selling these things I will look into making a holder that will fit inside the blade.

Tim
The Custom Saber Shop

[UltraSWG]

You da man

[Cyambin]

If they're brighter, they will be more even across the blade right?

Mi Gon Jinn said he runs an LED on stepped up power and it's perfectly even throughout the whole blade. First of, what stepped up power, and second, does that mean EL will eventually become obsolete?

[xwingband]

I don't think EL will ever become obsolete as long as it still is the only one that offers interchangable colors. If UltraSWG is right that the K2 might be made to fit inside the tube then it just might make EL be the silly option.[:p]

[Stan Johnson]

I don't know much about LED, but in the pics I've seen there has been an uneven distribution of light. EL blade have an even distribution; that's one more reason they probably will not become obsolete. I think EL electronics can fit into smaller spaces than LED electronics, but again, I don't know much about LED.

[GeluKhanGharr]

In my personal experience, EL setups take up more space than LED. Yes, the LED holders tend to be a bit longer, but with EL you have to account for the length of the plug/jack and the inverter - overall about 1.5 or more precious inches more than an LED setup. I've built both kinds and for those who have seen the difference, I think there is no going back from LED to EL blades.

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[xwingband]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I don't know much about LED, but in the pics I've seen there has been an uneven distribution of light. EL blade have an even distribution; that's one more reason they probably will not become obsolete. I think EL electronics can fit into smaller spaces than LED electronics, but again, I don't know much about LED.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

It's a trade off really. LED gives a tapered coring effect while the EL doesn't. EL tends to look more like the prequel yet LED seems closer to the original trilogy.

Spacewise it depends on the setup. On the basics LED takes up less in the hilt but if you add a driver board it doesn't. If these K2's can be made into individual blades it would be a different story.

[GeluKhanGharr]

xwing, don't forget the issue of brightness. unless you can get EL film like the one used in the older MRs, and which is fairly bright, LED is way brighter than EL. Brighter than the MR film too, though not by that much. Here's a side by side of my EL MR and my Luxeon III custom built. The MR is on the right.
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[xwingband]

I didn't forget. I know EL is less bright although some like the lime EL can be pretty close to LEDs.

[GeluKhanGharr]

You are right about lime wire, it's nice and bright. But...

oh, yeah, price too. I think overall LED can be less expensive. At least in the long run, LED life is way better than EL. Don't get me wrong, I think EL still has it's applications, just not for lightsaber blades anymore. But ther'll be EL blade builders around for a long while - at least as long as those people still sell that info on eBay. Everyone starts somewhere, right?

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[Strydur]

Led lifespan vrs EL lifespan is not something I would take into consideration unless you plan on running your saber for like 1 year non stop.

Tim
The Custom Saber Shop

[UltraSWG]

The life issue may be moot for 2khtz 9 volt systems, but has anyone tested the 4khtz 18 volt? I don't think that setup has been around long enough to test. The brighter the EL, the shorter the half-life. In a couple years we'll see how these new brighter EL systems are holding up.

As for illumination uniformity, I've come pretty dang close to achieving it and so have others. And as LED's get brighter, the uniformity will get better. Of course, we'll always have that flare at the base, but personally I love that.

And hey Strydur, have you considered trying to make a Lux III system with the LED in the base of the blade? Seems to me that it could be done.

[LAN-ED-TUL]

i love that flaring effect at the base too. it looks awesome.

[Derthh_Mawlz]

I wonder if there is any way to have a saber that has both EL and LED in it. Maybe have the EL in the core of the blade somehow, surrounded by the LED light...

[Jedi Ranger]

The LED would wash out the EL glow.

Hmmm..........unless a really wide-angle LED lens was used. That might work.

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[Jedi Ranger]

Soooo.............yeah...........anyone tested their pre-release K2s yet?

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[UltraSWG]

Yeah, they're brighter and don't require as much heatsinking. But they need 1500ma. S'bout it.

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[xwingband]

Sweet, I like the new sig too. It made me chuckle.[:D]

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[LAN-ED-TUL]

i cant wait to get one myself. anyone know how much brighter the red/orange will be compared to the lux 3 we have now? is it more than the 190 lumens range the lux 3 is now? i just wondered about it cuz all the people i show the one i have now to say its darn bright as h e double toothpicks. but if the new k2 is even more intense, then oh baby, i want one.

[tetmatek]

Could you use the MR 6 AA Sabers insides to get the 1500Ma? I Would like to put a 5w or a k2 into somthing but need the extra power to take full advantage of the LED.

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[Strydur]

When doing the conversions I have noticed the vader puts out about 1400 using all negatives but the 6aa like the Luke puts out quite a bit more.

Tim
The Custom Saber Shop

[Protein5000]

Tim, Have you tested your k2 yet? Got pics?

[GeluKhanGharr]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Strydur

Led lifespan vrs EL lifespan is not something I would take into consideration unless you plan on running your saber for like 1 year non stop.
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My comment comes almost a month later because I just saw it. Goes to prove I don't spend enough time on this board [:D]
Anyway, Tim, I have made an 18 volt 3500 Hz EL saber and kept it on for about 10 hours overall. I have noticed a drop in brightness already. When I plugged in a fresh blade of the same aqua wire it was brighter. With the original blade you don't notice it because the dimming happens slowly and gradually, but pluging in an identical but new blade shows the difference. It is not much, but it's there.

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[Strydur]

I believe it..hard to tell how voltage and hertz will effect the wire without actually testing it. I would go 4khz with a 9v if you want it to last, although you are the first person I have ever heard mention the wire dimmed on them.

Tim
The Custom Saber Shop

[TI-525]

LED may have a brighter glow
but the el is more realistic to the movies because in the movies theres no brighter/lighter part in the saber
i have seen alot of pictures of led and it seems like the bottom is alot brighter than the rest of the saber

[UltraSWG]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by TI-525

LED may have a brighter glow
but the el is more realistic to the movies because in the movies theres no brighter/lighter part in the saber
i have seen alot of pictures of led and it seems like the bottom is alot brighter than the rest of the saber
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http://theforce.net/episode2/newspics/ep2-poster_large.jpg


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[LAN-ED-TUL]

that poster is pretty much what the lux's look like. thanx ultra for finding that pic.

[TI-525]

i know thats what they look like
not as realistic to the movies
thats a poster

[Jedi Ranger]

I think we all know it's a poster. ;) More correctly, it's an "artist rendering", with obvious artistic liscense and flair.

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[UltraSWG]

Obiwan's saber in that EPII poster is pretty much what a Luxeon blade looks like. Apparantly, when an artist envisions a lightsaber, it has a flare at the base. Oddly enough, that's exactly how I always envisioned one, which is why I like Luxeon blades.

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[xwingband]

Exactly, posters are by artists and the films were done by techies. They see a rod and rotoscope it. Adding the flare never crosses their minds. I think it's much more in the spirit of Lucas originally wanting saber fighting to be slower and the power of the sabers apparent to have the flare.

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[UltraSWG]

Yeah, you also notice that in the movies, the light from the saber doesn't shine on the Jedi played by live action actors. IE, Anakin's blue blade doesn't shine blue light on him. But when you see the CGI Jedi (like Yoda) you can see the green light from his saber lighting up his face. And when you watch the Clone Wars animated scene, the sabers light up the Jedi Council room when they knight Anakin, but Darth Vader's and Luke's saber don't light up the Emperor's throne room on the death star.

Those rotoscoping techies don't always get eveything right. I'm sure Lucas intended for lightsabers to flare at the base like the posters and other movie art. We're just making it a reality.

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[TI-525]

i dont think lucas wanted them to flare at the bottom
but in the clone wars it was dark/pitch black of course a saber would light up the room (especially all those)

[UltraSWG]

The next time I'm over for dinner I'll ask him. But honestly, if he didn't want the sabers to be brighter at the bottom, why did he allow his artists to draw them that way?

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[LAN-ED-TUL]

good question. a lil bit off topic but comes back to it in a way.
does or has any body heard of Mercedes Lackey or Larry Dixon? Mercedes writes fiction books and Larry Dixon does most of her artwork for them. they live right here in Claremore. my friend knows them both real well. and i was introduced to them once. now, this is where it gets back to lucas. Larry knows George Lucas personally. he's good friends with him. he has Lucas's personal cell phone number. my friend and i have both talked to Larry about talkin to Lucas about maybe putting a couple of my sabers i built in his next star wars project. from what i hear Lucas is planning on doing a tv series of star wars.

i think maybe set around the time of back when the jedi academy was started. might be a great chance to get noticed, as we only asked if Lucas would put our names in the list of credits as prop builders.

that would be super, what ya'll think?

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[desertscorpion]

In revenge of the sith, I know I saw some shots where they had the flare at the bottom, atleast a little bit. I think. (I'll have to run home and watch it, now, to see if I'm right). I thought I remembered yoda's saber with the flare for the dueling close-up shots. <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by TI-525

LED may have a brighter glow
but the el is more realistic to the movies because in the movies theres no brighter/lighter part in the saber
i have seen alot of pictures of led and it seems like the bottom is alot brighter than the rest of the saber
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[tetmatek]

in My opinion (not that it matters) is that the flare at the hilt is cool and if you watch the saber duels they do seem to vary. Some bright at bottom like Ultra displayed in the posters. Some get blunt tips and some look rather pointy. Basically until a REAL SAber has been produced i really don't think any one of us is wrong in our interpertation of blade, hilt, etc. Remember building your own weapon is part of Jedi training so how ever they look is up to you. George might have invented the concept but i think our sabers fullfill his vision.Hey look at the market we have created. I don't think if you asked any one of us back in the times of ANH we could have said " I think i'll build me some Light sabers" You probably would get stranger looks than i get when i tell a freind. Copy and expansion of an idea is the greatest form of flattery. i think George would say we are all right or He'll want all our names to sue. lol

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[xwingband]

Good old georgie can't sue us. Corbin own the patent for using a single Luxeon LED to light up a tube (or something like that[:p]).

I think he mentioned that somewhere.

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[rld1025]

Will MR Sabers be able to be converted to K2? MR hilt with different colored blades seem pretty sweet. Any pricing out on K2's yet?

How hard do you think it would be to convert a MR Saber that has been converted to a Lux to a K2?

[Strydur]

More than likely the k2 will be offered in the exact same casing the lux III are so it should be very easy.

Tim
The Custom Saber Shop

[TI-525]

actually now that i think bout it
lucas doesnt care
in some shots n the movies they flare and alot they dont
strange
gives a lil bit of variety

[xwingband]

I don't think it's not caring. I think he just has more important things to worry about. I prefer to take the artist's interpretation. One thing is for sure that Lucas intended the lightsaber to seem powerful by having it hum, spark and flare when hit. Having a flare from the base seems like a logical extension of that idea of being powerful.

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[Protein5000]

Back to this K2 business....Do you think it's worth waiting for them to come out? Or is there not much of a diference in brightness and not worth the wait for Tim to develop a LED holder system - provided they will be different to the current set up?

[xwingband]

It will be different to mount (closer to a Star /O I bet), but the brightness is well worth the wait and he'd only have to change the heatsink/mount. See the difference between a 1 watter and the 3W is the 3 can take the heat and not much else. The K2 is basically the same thing. It's not not that much different than a 3W but it can take the heat of being driven like a 5W. It's dang small too. There aren't any downsides yet: It's smaller, brighter, and requires the same if not less heatsinking than before. As long as the price is similar this should be the next big thing.[:D]

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[Strydur]

They have only showed the K2 in the emitter mounting style which they also offered on the lux 3 and 5. I am sure they will offer it in a star mount which is what we currently use.

Tim
The Custom Saber Shop

[Protein5000]

Thanks for the info Xwing and Stydur.

If they release them in a star mount does that mean I could buy the Anakin conversion kit when it comes out and use the LED's Tim currently sells, then when the K2 comes out I can just switch em round?

[xwingband]

Yup, use those quick connects he's selling now and it would be so easy.

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[Darth Frieds]

would that work for my Ultra Anakin FX as well?

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[jedi-dad2]

I have built both EL and 1 LED using Tim's Modular Hilt System. When running the 4Khz inverter at 18 volts it is very bright not quite as bright as LED. But as I have my own lathe the 3/4 inch blade gives me more metal to work with around the emitter and the hilts look cooler. If some one were to perfect a 3/4 inch LED blade I would stop making EL sabers and build only LED. I am currently trying to build a 3/4 inch LED blade using a luxeon star/o and a 1/8 inch walled Poly C.

[Madcow]

<font face="Verdana">Can someone tell me what is the benefit of a star O?
Does it focus the beam from the LED better than the luxeon optics, mounted up to the emitter of the star?
I've got a Luxeon star 1 and the lense, all in 1" diameter aluminum tube.

I figure the star O would take up too much space on that huge square backing?</font id="Verdana">





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[Strydur]

There is no benefit to a star/o unless you cant figure out how to click 2 pieces of plastic together to assemble the lens to the lens holder on a 3w.

Tim
The Custom Saber Shop

[UltraSWG]

Well, there's some benfit, but you lose brightness most of the time.

Benefit to a Star/O is cost, power consumption, and heat production. But in most cases, you sacrafice alot of lumens.

However, sometimes an overdriven Star/O is brighter than an underdriven Star III. This is true with some MRFX conversions.

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[Reaper]

This may have already been mentioned and I just missed it, but does anyone know why the K2s aren't coming out in the Luxeon star format? Just wondering why it looks so different.

This is an older topic, but just a side note, I'm not sure how many of you have been to this site, but if you have questions for Lucas about the new tv shows/movies coming out or whatever, you can go to www.supershadow.com and ask him, or his predecessor. just fyi

[Strydur]

I hope they will eventually.

Tim
The Custom Saber Shop

[xwingband]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Reaper

This may have already been mentioned and I just missed it, but does anyone know why the K2s aren't coming out in the Luxeon star format? Just wondering why it looks so different.

This is an older topic, but just a side note, I'm not sure how many of you have been to this site, but if you have questions for Lucas about the new tv shows/movies coming out or whatever, you can go to www.supershadow.com and ask him, or his predecessor. just fyi
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Supershadow is a joke.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supershadow

He is not and never has been associated with Lucas. Ever checked out his "most powerful" list? Leia is above Mara Jade even though in the books Mara is a master and Leia just started as an apprentice.

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[james3]

Dude is nothing more than full of Bravo Sierra. Long story kept short dude is smokin' crack. Does make for fun reading but ya got to take it for what it is.

[supertrogdor]

well put james, it was a fun afternoon reading some of his loot, but even the less than astute reader can tell that he is blowing out pipe dreams.

[LAN-ED-TUL]

i thought he was full of it myself. lol

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[Reaper]

Dang! Good job on the wikipedia! Holy crap, I was totally suckered! Thank you very much for bringing this to my attention. About the Mara Jade comment, whoever supershadow is, he doesn't go by the books, just by the movies... but not that that really makes a difference anymore, since it's all fake. haha

[xwingband]

Yeah, one of his sticks is he's said Lucas doesn't believe in the EU and him either, but by putting an EU character on the list he gives it some credence. To quote james3: full of Bravo Sierra.

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[Reaper]

I feel so stupid right now... you have no idea. I don't understand why he hasn't been shut down by now. It's ridiculous. Thanks again... you know, I thought that some of it sounded cheesy, and for a while I questioned whether it was really G. Lucas answering the q's or not, but I guess I figured that Lucas would have shut it down if it wasn't him. Man that sucks!

So about the K2s, as of right now, they're not in a star shape, but hopefully they will be available in that format... is that what I'm getting?

[LAN-ED-TUL]

thats the jest of it it appears.

You dont know the POWER, of the dark side...

[buffalocityherpx]

Hi all this is my first post, and i looked up that supershadow crap.
OMG!!!! This person has absolutely nothing better to do than this garbage?. I know its off topic, but i couldnt resist posting. I just cant believe the level of disrespect this person is showing towards George Lucas after almost a whole lifetime of dedication to his own creation. [:(!] WOW!!!

what are we talkin about?

[LAN-ED-TUL]

lux k2's.

You dont know the POWER, of the dark side...

[GFORCE13]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> lux k2's.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote"> Wow looking like we are getting back on topic excellent work.[8D]

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[xwingband]

Too bad that's his sig and not a question.[:p]

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[LAN-ED-TUL]

its just kinda sad tho, the lumens on these k2's. but on the upside, when they make a star design the whites are brighter and you can use it with the filters.

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[darthwrath]

I just tried adding a 4th AA battery to my LUX 3 FX conversion and the results were inconclusive. The batt. was wired in series with the other 3 batt. It doesn't make any difference to the LED's brightness. If I were to get a K2 and do the same batt. configuration, would this make the K2 brighter than the LUX 3. Thanks Tim, for all the parts you sent to me. I received everything on the 20th and installed it that night. I cant believe the difference that the LED makes to the stock FX. My saber now feels like it's indestructible. I hope that you will soon get your Anikan coversion kit soon. Thanks again!!![}:)]
Daniel R Buckman

[Strydur]

There would be no need ot use 4 battery instead of 3 with a k2 either. The main problem with k2's at the moment is that they dont come in a star pattern. I am working on a way to mount them inside my setup though.

Tim
The Custom Saber Shop

[darthwrath]

Can you unsolder the emitter from the base of a LUX 3 and resolder a K2 to it.Or is not the same size as the LUX 3 emitter. I've never seen one of the K2's before. Just a thought.[}:)]

[xwingband]

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[Strydur]

Not sure if you could..but it would be a waste of a good 3w lol.

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[Do-Clo]

The led configuration is different on the K2 than on the star so I don't think it would fit. The problem with the K2 is no good way to mount it and Luxeon is not sharing much information about it, the spec sheet is lacking when it comes to mounting and heatsinking. Acordding to their web site almost all of the K2 leds are on a 10 week lead time for ordering.

Do-Clo
Don't make me destroy you...

[LAN-ED-TUL]

well hopefully they will give out more info soon and make a star out of it.

You dont know the POWER, of the dark side...

[Mi Gin Gonn]

LOL...

ROFL...

Strydur, if you're over 1 billion posts, that officially makes you the (drumroll please)....

McDonalds of Saber Shops!!!!

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[LAN-ED-TUL]

mackee dee's, huh? lol thats a good one. FOOC, ROFL, PAMLSH.

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[UltraSWG]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by LAN-ED-TUL

mackee dee's, huh? lol thats a good one. FOOC, ROFL, PAMLSH.

You dont know the POWER, of the dark side...
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I've built sabers using the K2 in an MHS and it's really not all that different than a normal LED.

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[Do-Clo]

Ultra would you like to share what you used to mount the K2?

Do-Clo
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[UltraSWG]

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Ultra would you like to share what you used to mount the K2?

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I just took an aluminum disc and made my own "star" type mount and then put the K2 emitter on it. It took maybe 5 mins.

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[xwingband]

I think he means what did you use to get the K2 to stay down. Did you use thermal adhesive on the fabritated star mount?

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[Do-Clo]

Ultra did you use thermal epoxy to mount your K2 and did you use the mhs led mount as a heat sink.

Do-Clo
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[UltraSWG]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Do-Clo

Ultra did you use thermal epoxy to mount your K2 and did you use the mhs led mount as a heat sink.

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I used double sided heatsink adhesive to adhere the emitter onto the plate, then fastened the plate to the MHS led mount. The blade holder presses down on the SO17XA reflector which holds the emitter securley in place. Once you get these emitters in your hands this will all become very clear to you.

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[Strydur]

Thats what I plan on doing for now. I have some thermal adhesive coming. I allready have lens holders that will work with the k2 and my normal lens's. Just need to make up a adapter that will mount it to my holders and I will be good to go.

Tim
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[Do-Clo]

Thanks Tim and Ultra, I have been thinking about trying a K2 but wasn't sure about how to mount it.

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[Kyp Durron]

Sounds interesting, can't wait to see pics of blades with these installed and ignited. [:p]

[LAN-ED-TUL]

yeah, i might get one of them. the blue is supposed to be brighter, and the white too. those 2 would be good to use.

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[GeluKhanGharr]

Hey Ultra,

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by UltraSWG

I used double sided heatsink adhesive to adhere the emitter onto the plate, then fastened the plate to the MHS led mount. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

How did you insulate the terminals? Or you just left them up in the air and attached only the bottom of the emitter, and the terminals are held up by the wires soldered to them?

Is it as bright/low power consumption/low heat output as they say?

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[UltraSWG]

The double sided adhesive prevents the terminals from touching the aluminum plate.

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[Rocket Man]

Can we see some pics @ some point?

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[Madcow]

So I just finished my MR Mace conversion to a white K2.
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It's brighter than what I remember of my white 3w (sold it), but not ALOT brighter. And the 5 volt relay idea seems to work great (thanks Do-Clo).

I machined my own heat sink out of copper and it fits inside the emitter. I used Arctic Alumina adhesive. after loking at it - if you carefully bent the contacts up (to avoid shorting) - you could mount the K2 on a MHS heatsink easily.

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[LAN-ED-TUL]

so, the k2 has to glued in place on tims holder or if the contacts are bent up the nylon bolts will hold it?

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[Do-Clo]

Lan until recently the only way to get a K2 was in emitter form no mounting plate.

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[james3]

The stars work great on Tim's holder as expected Lan. I just use those.

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[Do-Clo]

Luxeon is offering the K2 leds mountinged on a star mount now but only in white[xx(] I want a high power red.[:D]

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[xwingband]

High power Red = 3W Red. That sucker can take 2200ma peaked.[:0]

LumiLEDs needs to get on their butts... look at all of the companies going ahead and mounting them on stars.

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[james3]

NOTICE!!!!


Guys and gals I would like to let you guys know that these K2's are not quite as tough as the standard LUX's ( I, III, V)

The dome that protects and seals the LED is a soft rubberlike material and WILL easily tear.

[xwingband]

How in the world did you figure that one out? :shock:

[Firebird21]

How in the world did you figure that one out? :shock:


Sounds like the hard way!

[Do-Clo]

Always the hard way with that one

[james3]

The short version: Remember I said I like to do stress tests :twisted:
Needless to say I pissed away the $ for a K2 star :(

Long version: I was setting up the optics and screwing down the MHS blade holder and when it got to that classic spot where the threading doesn't want to go I did the finger throught the middle thing, eased off of the holder and when it went to twist back in the optic twisted slightly and sliced the dome. Ironicly, Ambo had mentioned that he busted on just a night or two before and told me to be careful. Murphy's took over from there and well, needless to say I will keep it long enough to post some pics when I find or buy a new camera cable.

What really sucks is it was a beautiful blue.