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Nynthu
03-10-2006, 08:49 AM
Does the hasbro sound board shut itself off if left still or unattended for awhile?

xwingband
03-10-2006, 08:52 AM
Yes, it has about a one minute shut-off after no activity to save batteries. The MRs have it too.

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Nynthu
03-16-2006, 03:25 PM
Does the Count Dooku lightsaber ($20 version) have the same hasbro sound module that used to be sold here? I can't find the generic Sith sabers and am wondering if the Count Dooku sound module will work instead. Thanks.

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xwingband
03-16-2006, 03:29 PM
Posted by Gelu on the first page of the sound thread:

I posted something like this last night, but it didn't go through, so here we go again. I have about 35 Hasbros - I don't think I am missing any model. The boards are different from generation to generation and have gotten better over time.

Old (1995) Luke - crappy sound, motion, flash on clash. The clash sensor is ridiculously large - NOT a good board for custom hilts
Anakin AOTC - crappy sound, no motion, flash
Anakin ROTS - great sound, no motion, no flash, color change(2 switcheable outputs, but the switch is board mounted and a hell to install, so the switcheable outputs "feature" is virtually useless. Still, a good board for customs
Yoda training - crappy all the way - yoda talk switch, low volume, crappy sound, flash, no motion, break really fast
Obi ROTS - great sound, no motion, flash on clash, but also the motor output - good to use with Corbin's C&L feature
Obi AOTC - the old models and the new, repackaged 8 dollar ones - I found them to be the same. Crappy sound, no motion, but NO FLASH on clash.
Old Vader ROTJ - The best board in my opinion - great sounds, motion sensor, no flash on clash. Almost impossible to find, except packaged with the helmet at $50
Windu/Dooku/QGonn/generic - all use the same board - great sound, motion sensor, but they all have that stupid flashing on clash.
Stay away from the "build-your-own". My son broke 2 in one week. He's yet to break any of the other ones, so it's not him. They just up and quit.

I hope this helps

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Nynthu
03-23-2006, 08:06 PM
Is it possible to power a Luexon LED and Hasbro Sound Board off of 2 C batteries instead of the four AAA Batteries and get good performane? My new hilt has trouble fitting the 4 AAA's battery holder.

And one last question has anyone tried to trim down the outside of the Hasbro speaker (plastic edge) and see if it still works and sounds fine?

Thanks!

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Firebird21
03-23-2006, 08:16 PM
Yes...


Some pics...
http://www.yankeetoys.org/lee/hilt.jpg
http://www.yankeetoys.org/lee/hilt3.jpg

This thread may help too...
http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/sabers/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=621


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LAN-ED-TUL
03-23-2006, 08:19 PM
And one last question has anyone tried to trim down the outside of the Hasbro speaker (plastic edge) and see if it still works and sounds fine
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that what i do with mine. i put them in heiland and graflex handles. and you have to sand them off just a lil bit. no hurt in performance. just be careful sanding the edge down. a lil at a time, recheck fit. so on and so forth....

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Firebird21
03-23-2006, 08:55 PM
BTW...

There's a red wire that runs down the side of the speaker. It's covered by black glue. Be sure NOT to sand this spot too much. It will cut the wire and render the speaker useless.

You can see this wire in my pics rinning into the center of the speaker.

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GeluKhanGharr
03-24-2006, 12:27 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Nynthu

Is it possible to power a Luexon LED and Hasbro Sound Board off of 2 C batteries instead of the four AAA Batteries and get good performane? My new hilt has trouble fitting the 4 AAA's battery holder.
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Only a red one. Well, red, orange and red-orange. Only those have a volage need bellow 3 Volts. If you got with any other color you will need 3 or more round batteries - 4.5 volts and up.

Here is an example:
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Do-Clo
03-24-2006, 01:11 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Nynthu

Is it possible to power a Luexon LED and Hasbro Sound Board off of 2 C batteries instead of the four AAA Batteries and get good performane? My new hilt has trouble fitting the 4 AAA's battery holder.

If you switch to a 1 watt luxeon you can add a micropuck led driver to the output of the hasbro sound board and run any color led just fine on 3 volts. See this thread for my diagram:
http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/sabers/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=90

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GeluKhanGharr
03-24-2006, 05:57 PM
Ok, ignorence allert: huh, hu-huh [scratches head]
um, what's a micropuck/Buckpuck? What does it do?

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xwingband
03-24-2006, 06:02 PM
http://www.luxeonstar.com/sub_category.php?id=241&link_str=240::241

They're LED drivers... don't know what else to say.

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GeluKhanGharr
03-24-2006, 06:53 PM
I always thought those "drivers" were nothing but a voltage sensing circuit that would adjust resistance accordingly. If an LED needs 3.4 Volts to light up, the "driver" should provide almost no resistance if one tries to power it up from 3 volts, but the LED should not light up at all. Don, did you actually try this?

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Do-Clo
03-24-2006, 07:12 PM
I have a functional setup that is waiting to be installed into a heiland hilt. I am using a hasbro sound board a micropuck led driver on the output of the sound board and a green luxeon star 1 watt led all in a tcss holder and adapter that Tim machined down to fit into the heiland hilt. This saber will be for myself, always wanted a green saber, I know it is not very sith like. Check my post with the diagram and you will see a green blade which is this setup. Works great.

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Pirate King
03-25-2006, 11:21 PM
Has anyone tried the ROTS Vader soundboard? It's not on the list on this thread(which is very helpful, thank you) and it was released with the Obi-Wan with the motor and colorchanging Ani.

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Do-Clo
03-26-2006, 12:14 AM
The ROTS vader sound board should work fine, the one to avoid is the color changing Anakin model.

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Pirate King
03-26-2006, 11:24 AM
does it have motion sound or just clash?

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Do-Clo
03-26-2006, 11:44 AM
It has both motion and clash sounds.

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xwingband
04-08-2006, 07:32 AM
Just to let you all know, watch your stores. My Wal-mart just dropped the $20 sabers to $11. I'm going to pick up the ROTS Vaders. Like Gelu has said avoid the Anakin changing ones and I've seen nothing but trouble on getting the ROTS Obi's out of the plastic.

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Firebird21
04-08-2006, 07:54 AM
The last Vader one I got I was less than impressed... (I think it's the new release)

It had FOC and the idle was not as good. The clash was horrific. Overall I did not like it and I returned it to get the Anakin.


The Anakin did not fit in the MHS body, and the Obi Wan IS a bear to take apart. But I like the idle on it so that's what I used.


This helped when disassembaling the Obi Wan...


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xwingband
04-08-2006, 08:11 AM
I might pick up an obi then. FOC isn't that much of an issue since I want to use it in conjunction with corbin's board.

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Firebird21
04-08-2006, 08:16 AM
Just to warn you...

My wife liked the idle of the Anakin one better. And I liked the clash. But I didn't like the way you could hear the recording repeat every 2sec.

And the clash on the Obi Wan is as bad, if not worse than the Vader! I didn't even bother to hook it up! It lasts for about 3sec. and sounds like maracas!


I’d buy as many as you can, try them all, and return what you don’t like. That’s what I did.


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Ambo
04-08-2006, 09:00 AM
I agree with you on the OBI,the clash severly lacking. Like you said, it sounds like crap, dosnt even start to begin to sound like a lightsaber clashing. I was severly disapointed with it.

Pirate King
04-08-2006, 07:25 PM
I kind of like the vader. It's kind of dumb to just swing around with the delay on the woosh noise, but it has two different clashes that overlap nicely with the woosh, so dueling sounds pretty cool. I've finally got all my stuff and I plan on using the vader.

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LAN-ED-TUL
04-08-2006, 08:45 PM
cool pic firebird, i likey!!!![:)][:)][:)]

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xwingband
04-09-2006, 08:19 AM
Neither grated me too bad except taking the dang Obi out... every step it's like they want you to have dificulty. When I get back home I'll be gutting an old Quigon saber. That one had nice sound... and a blade that isn't all of 2 feet long and 2 inches wide, lol.

Would pics of the various boards be a good idea? Shows wiring and relative size.

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Do-Clo
04-09-2006, 08:41 AM
Xwing somewhere I remember seeing a picture of the different sound boards for hasbro and I don't recall what thred it is in though a project for your spare time.[:D]

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xwingband
04-09-2006, 11:29 AM
I believe you are refering to the MR pic that either Ultra or Corbin posted.

EDIT: nope, tetmatek posted it... at least there.
http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/sabers/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=187

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Do-Clo
04-09-2006, 11:38 AM
oops, that was a few months ago but still is good information to be in the thread index. Also if we could come up with pictures of the different hasbro sound boards it would help the newbies.

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xwingband
04-09-2006, 11:41 AM
Sounds like a plan.[:)]

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LAN-ED-TUL
04-09-2006, 03:35 PM
do-clo and xwing, on top of it all. we're all in good hands.hehehe, snicker snicker.




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Lord_Jyensba_Lalne
04-09-2006, 04:27 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Nynthu

Does the hasbro sound board shut itself off if left still or unattended for awhile?
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So what is the use of the momentary switch if the board shuts itself off on it's own?

I am fourteen years old, and not experienced with electronics. Please keep that in mind when I post.

Do-Clo
04-09-2006, 05:41 PM
It is designed for kids who have a habit of turning things on and then laying them down unattended. This feature saves the batteries.

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Lord_Jyensba_Lalne
04-09-2006, 05:54 PM
Okay...But what does a momentary switch do?

I am fourteen years old, and not experienced with electronics. Please keep that in mind when I post.

Do-Clo
04-09-2006, 06:03 PM
Might I suggest a visit to your local libray to check out a book on basic electronics or use the pc that is in front of you to look up the operation of switches and basic electronics on the web.[?]

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Lord_Jyensba_Lalne
04-09-2006, 06:23 PM
1. That's what I just did(haha)
2. I looked up "IMOhm" at RadioShack.com, and it turned up nothing. Is it called something else? Can it even be found at RadioShack? If not, where?

Do-Clo
04-09-2006, 06:24 PM
1 meg ohm resistor

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Lord_Jyensba_Lalne
04-09-2006, 07:21 PM
The only thing that comes up on the site is a manual...Is it only available in the store?

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04-09-2006, 08:04 PM
dude, do you have a radio shack you can go to? if so, then get yer butt down there, and go look fer yerself!




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Nynthu
04-10-2006, 01:54 PM
Question on the Dooku $20 saber. Does the sound module on this saber come with the little grey mommentary button. I recently got a new darth vader version saber and the sound module has the button under the sound board card. I know I can still connect a switch to where the switch usually is on the generic sith sabers, but I would like to use the little grey switch in the saber I'm building and if the Dooku has it, then I'll go buy one. Hope this makes sense. Thanks!

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Do-Clo
04-10-2006, 02:24 PM
I have never opened a Dooku saber so I can not say but the odds are in your favor and if nothing else you will have an extra sound board.

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saber417
04-12-2006, 08:52 PM
allright can someone please send me in the right direction please.since my fx sound board was mauled i went out and pic up one of the new darth sabers.i want to try to set this up for an led saber. but what i have read it says i need five aa batteries to run that.i would like there to be less batteries can there be 9volts and resistors i am trying to work with about a five inch space in a sink pipe and i am not sure but do i need to have tims driver. i mean almost ever diagram i have seen has corbins board.is that the same as tims driver.i think i have overloaded my brain with all of this.[:p] i know i can set this up with two switches one for the led and one for the sound board.but to many batteries.i would like to have it all on one switch if possibile.so if this is not to confusing.is there hope. alright i found out that the corbin board is the same as the board in the store sorry but that.

xwingband
04-12-2006, 09:04 PM
Whoa... capitals would help in there.

http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/sabers/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=366

and

http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/sabers/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=187

have diagrams that will work.

5AA's are only need if they are rechargables (they are 1.2V instead of 1.5V). I also think you are confused. The 3W driver in the store IS corbin's driver. They share with each other he's just not calling it that for the sake of simplicity, we just have a habit of calling it that...[:I]

I don't think that's what you want thought... you mention a resistor so I assume you don't have the LED driver. You CAN run the LED off JUST the sound board with 4AA. Just use the negative lamp wire of the board as the positive to the LED. This gives the annoying flash on clash if you're using the ROTS Vader though.

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Do-Clo
04-12-2006, 09:15 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by saber417

allright can someone please send me in the right direction please.since my fx sound board was mauled i went out and pic up one of the new darth sabers.i want to try to set this up for an led saber. but what i have read it says i need five aa batteries to run that.i would like there to be less batteries can there be 9volts and resistors i am trying to work with about a five inch space in a sink pipe and i am not sure but do i need to have tims driver. i mean almost ever diagram i have seen has corbins board.is that the same as tims driver.i think i have overloaded my brain with all of this.[:p] i know i can set this up with two switches one for the led and one for the sound board.but to many batteries.i would like to have it all on one switch if possibile.so if this is not to confusing.is there hope. alright i found out that the corbin board is the same as the board in the store sorry but that.
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Saber the saber you bought it is a hasbro saber correct. You can just use the sound board to drive the led without any other boards required. Take pictures of the hasbro when you open it up and I am sure we can walk you through setting it up for a luxeon led.

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saber417
04-12-2006, 09:19 PM
Ok sorry about the capitals.So corbins board and the sound board i am going to purches one of the boards.Can they be run off of 9 volts and not AA.I meant a voltage regulator not a resistor sorry.i would need a voltage regulator would that work with the sound board and corbins board and the led all on one switch.I will take a better look at the diagrams.Thanks alot for the help i guess i just have to read more.

Do-Clo
04-12-2006, 09:21 PM
Remember read the thread index [:D]

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saber417
04-12-2006, 09:54 PM
Here is darth vaders guts[:D]sorry if you saw gargancapic earlierhttp://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j10/saber417/th_000_0249.jpg (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j10/saber417/000_0249.jpg)

Do-Clo
04-12-2006, 10:06 PM
Saber that looks pretty much like a standard hasbro sound board.
Look through this thread you will find some helpful ideas
http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/sabers/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=19

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saber417
04-12-2006, 10:13 PM
Thanks again dealing with electronics is like getting brain freeze

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04-13-2006, 06:06 AM
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Nynthu
04-14-2006, 10:27 PM
I have the same Hasbro Sound Board as Saber417 and I can't get the LED to work properly. The first time the LED worked then the LED and saber sound would turn on opposite of each other. If one was on the other was off. And when the LED is on it is barely lit. Any thoughts guys on what might be wrong. Thanks.

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Do-Clo
04-15-2006, 04:49 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Nynthu

I have the same Hasbro Sound Board as Saber417 and I can't get the LED to work properly. The first time the LED worked then the LED and saber sound would turn on opposite of each other. If one was on the other was off. And when the LED is on it is barely lit. Any thoughts guys on what might be wrong. Thanks.

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My honor is my guard,
My guard is to protect my master,
The supreme ruler of the Empire.
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What are you using for batteries and how many?

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xwingband
04-15-2006, 09:57 AM
Okay, as promised.[:D]

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Reverse to show switch mounted on the board:

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This one is a bugger to remove from the hilt. The two LED wires go to the clash sensor two, but in the brute force removal I pulled all four wires out.[:I]

The battery pack is not pictured because without the hilt it's useless.

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Nynthu
04-15-2006, 11:38 AM
I have the 4AAA battery pack from CSS that I use and I have hooked up the LED and Sound Board just like the tutorials say. I have sucessfully hooked up the LED and Sound Board with the generic Sith saber sound modules that has the attached Momentary switch, but with this new Darth Saber board with the switch on the bottom I have had no luck. I have tried to use the switch on the bottom as well as hooking up a momentary switch to the board and both work ineffectively the same way. So far I bought two of these Darth Vader sabers and both have failed the same way. Xwingband has a picture of the board above. Any thoughts guys, has anyone had success hooking up this board? Thanks!

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xwingband
04-15-2006, 11:47 AM
I haven't done it myself yet but it would be tough. If you pull off the rubber you can see the pattern. There are two distinct sets there. It should just require some artful soldering to those two sets. You cannot allow them to cross.

I am willing to bet that's the problem unless they're fried. A simple test with the original switch should reveal that.


EDIT: Wait, you say the original switch won't work? Unless you left the solder bridging the two it should work. Try bypassing the fuse.

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Do-Clo
04-15-2006, 12:01 PM
I have had a sound board act like what you are expereincing but what I discovered with my was low battery voltage would cause the board to do stange things. You can try new fresh batteries and then try AA batteries in case that the AAA don't have enough capcity to drive your setup. One last thing to try would be remove a battery and go to a three battery setup and try that.

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Nynthu
04-15-2006, 12:03 PM
I've hooked up the LED and Sound Board using only the switch on the bottom (the original) and it still does the same behavior. I have not touched the bottom switches circuit at all so the board is still like new and nothing has been soldered. Should I solder the bottom switch and try it? Or how would I bypass the fuse. Thanks for the help!

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Do-Clo
04-15-2006, 12:15 PM
I don't think it is a switch problem, I believe it to be a voltage problem check your connections and solder joints.

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Nynthu
04-15-2006, 12:17 PM
My batteries are brand new out of a 16 pack, so that can't be the trouble. And I've hooked this setup with a Hasbro Sound Board from a generic sith saber and all was well. I think it has to do with the swich on the bottom like Xwing is talking about. Thanks.

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xwingband
04-15-2006, 12:18 PM
To test if they fuse is blown you can gator clip or just touch a wire to both ends of the fuse and try to turn it on. If it does turn on you blew the fuse. I'm beggining to think it doesn't like not having a load with 4 batteries hooked up and no LED.

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Nynthu
04-15-2006, 12:34 PM
So I bypassed the fuse with a wire and the Sound Module still turns on and off with the LED and Sound Board turning on opposite of each other. While the LED is extremely dim when it is on. So the wire bypass made no difference.

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Do-Clo
04-15-2006, 12:34 PM
Did you test the sound board before it was removed?

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Nynthu
04-15-2006, 12:37 PM
Yes I put in two C batteries and it worked fine. I've used two of these boards and both have acted the same way. Thanks

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Do-Clo
04-15-2006, 12:40 PM
Try going to three batteries instead of four, your voltage may be too high causing these problems.

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Nynthu
04-15-2006, 12:42 PM
Tried it by removing one of the batteries and replacing it with a wire on the battery pack. It still has the same problem. I think the fuse is blown and I'll have to buy a different kind of Hasbro Sound Board.

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Do-Clo
04-15-2006, 12:48 PM
One last question are you using a 3 watt luxeon led? Maybe the two cell sound board just can't handle a 3 watt led.

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Nynthu
04-15-2006, 12:52 PM
Yes I am using a 3 watt LED.

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Do-Clo
04-15-2006, 12:57 PM
I would use a different type of sound board then because if two of the same sound board acts the same and it works on another type of sound board I think the problem is that type of sound board.

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Nynthu
04-15-2006, 01:01 PM
Does anyone have a picture of the generic Jedi or Yoda sound boards? I can't find any of the generic Sith sabers or even any Dooku sabers locally. I have only seen these Vader sabers, Yoda, Anakin Blue/Red, and generic Jedi sabers availible. Trying to see which I should buy. Thanks.

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xwingband
04-15-2006, 01:04 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Do-Clo

I would use a different type of sound board then because if two of the same sound board acts the same and it works on another type of sound board I think the problem is that type of sound board.

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I can say that is not the case. I just temporarly hooked mine up and the existing switch worked and powered a 3W white.

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Do-Clo
04-15-2006, 01:08 PM
The older sound boards used two C cell batteries and the newer boards all use 3 cells. Maybe this is a old board I have never tried using a 3 watt led on those.

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xwingband
04-15-2006, 01:12 PM
My Vader is a 2C saber... so unless it's really old stock I'm confused as to why it won't work for him.

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Nynthu
04-15-2006, 01:14 PM
So Xwing your Vader sound board worked? Did you turn it off and on with the switch off the board? You didn't get the opposite turning on and off effect? What did you use for batteries? Thanks for all the help guys, I guess if I can't get this to work I'll just try a different sound board.

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xwingband
04-15-2006, 01:18 PM
It turned on just like the other boards I have blinks with the turning on then stays on. The switch on the board worked fine for me. I ran it off 4AAA's.

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Do-Clo
04-15-2006, 01:20 PM
This is one of those fun ones that without it being infront of you it is hard to troubleshoot

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Nynthu
04-15-2006, 01:25 PM
Well I'm at a loss for words, I have no idea what I could have done wrong. Oh well thanks again for all the fast and helpful insight, you guys are great. I'll let you know if I figure anything out.

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LAN-ED-TUL
04-15-2006, 11:28 PM
strange are the ways of the force, and saber building/ lol

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Ambo
04-16-2006, 10:51 AM
yeah my custom I just finished has one of the Vader hasbros in it and works just fine. I soldered a momentary switch onto the holes for a switch and also soldered a 4 AAA battery holder onto it and wired it according to the diagrams provided by strider in the threads and it still is working like a charm....just tends to drain the batteries pretty fast....but that is a minor thing.

LAN-ED-TUL
04-16-2006, 04:59 PM
just have extras on hand i reckon then

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Do-Clo
04-16-2006, 05:02 PM
Ah the joy of battery powered stuff, the batteries always go dead when we are just starting to have fun.[:D]

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LAN-ED-TUL
04-16-2006, 05:05 PM
aint that the truth!! lol

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Pirate King
04-17-2006, 03:55 AM
I'm not entirely sure where to solder on the new switch, since the original is on the board itself. I was just going to use the original, but it's starting to look inconvenient.

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Do-Clo
04-17-2006, 07:27 AM
If you remove the rubber button you will see a copper ring and a copper circle, solder a wire to each one for your switch.

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xwingband
04-17-2006, 07:43 AM
If it's the Vader ROTS like I posted it will have two sets of interlocking silver patterns. Your best bet is to thread the switch wires through where the rubber switch was held to the board and solder one wire to each VERY carefully.

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Do-Clo
04-17-2006, 08:16 AM
Either method will work but care must be taken when attaching your wires with solder, you want to make sure you don't short anything together with the solder.

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LAN-ED-TUL
04-17-2006, 03:26 PM
i agree, it will be hard to do, but not impossible. those printed fingers are pretty close together and wil make it hard to get the wires soldered on without solder gettin on the wrong fingers.

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Do-Clo
04-17-2006, 04:41 PM
I would say piece of cake but I forget that I have years of practice

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LAN-ED-TUL
04-17-2006, 06:24 PM
yep, do-clo's the wiz at this stuff. burnt fingers from years of soldering. no feelin left in tips of fingers. hey do-clo, ever think of playin guitar? with dead tips, you wont feel the pain of the strings. my son came over sun night with his electric guitar. i tried playin some tunes i knew from a ways back, after about 20 minutes my fingers were hurtin again. been awhile since i played, no calussed fingertips anymore.

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saber417
04-18-2006, 08:12 AM
Guestion?does the new darth vader board need a voltage regulator.http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j10/saber417/th_000_0249.jpg (http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j10/saber417/000_0249.jpg)
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xwingband
04-18-2006, 08:16 AM
Only if you're doing EL. For LED it will work fine with 4AA or AAA's.

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saber417
04-18-2006, 08:19 AM
T[:D]hanks for the help.I no i saw it some where but who know's were.

Do-Clo
04-18-2006, 08:55 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by LAN-ED-TUL

yep, do-clo's the wiz at this stuff. burnt fingers from years of soldering. no feelin left in tips of fingers. hey do-clo, ever think of playin guitar? with dead tips, you wont feel the pain of the strings. my son came over sun night with his electric guitar. i tried playin some tunes i knew from a ways back, after about 20 minutes my fingers were hurtin again. been awhile since i played, no calussed fingertips anymore.

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I did play the guitar some several years ago but I was just ok at it and I gave up. I did learn to play a lot of Ted Nuggent music though, no comments from the youngsters here. I do have a lot of feeling on the finger tips left it is just when I do burn myself with a soldering iron I don't feel it because I use an 800 degree iron, it doesn't make a blister it just turns the area white because it is courtarized, and in a few days it just falls off.

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saber417
04-18-2006, 09:03 AM
Damn that hurts.[xx(]

james3
04-18-2006, 09:05 AM
I make sure that I bang on the strings enough to keep the chops up. Do-Clo if you were rockin out some Ted then I would say you were more then alright he gets some funky rhythms going on. I love playing Little Miss Dangerass on the bass.

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james3
04-18-2006, 09:09 AM
Saber, I think the point that Do-Clo is trying to make is that with that kind iron you don't feel it.

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Do-Clo
04-18-2006, 09:13 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by james3

I make sure that I bang on the strings enough to keep the chops up. Do-Clo if you were rockin out some Ted then I would say you were more then alright he gets some funky rhythms going on. I love playing Little Miss Dangerass on the bass.

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Personal favorite was Cat Scratch Fever

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saber417
04-18-2006, 09:14 AM
oh-no i feel it[B)]

Do-Clo
04-18-2006, 09:15 AM
Saber have you ever used a 800 degree iron???

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saber417
04-18-2006, 09:59 AM
I guess not.But it says something here about an 700 degree tip.So i guess i dont know sorry.

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Do-Clo

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by LAN-ED-TUL

yep, do-clo's the wiz at this stuff. burnt fingers from years of soldering. no feelin left in tips of fingers. hey do-clo, ever think of playin guitar? with dead tips, you wont feel the pain of the strings. my son came over sun night with his electric guitar. i tried playin some tunes i knew from a ways back, after about 20 minutes my fingers were hurtin again. been awhile since i played, no calussed fingertips anymore.

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I did play the guitar some several years ago but I was just ok at it and I gave up. I did learn to play a lot of Ted Nuggent music though, no comments from the youngsters here. I do have a lot of feeling on the finger tips left it is just when I do burn myself with a soldering iron I don't feel it because I use an 800 degree iron, it doesn't make a blister it just turns the area white because it is courtarized, and in a few days it just falls off.

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i was only kiddin do-clo.

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Do-Clo
04-18-2006, 05:29 PM
I knew that, I just thought I would suprise you that you were right.

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LAN-ED-TUL
04-18-2006, 06:13 PM
its cool ya learned some TN stuff. i liked some of his stuff too.

my son is tryin to teach me sweet home alabama. it looks easy tillya get to a certain part and then he loses me. lol

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Lord_Jyensba_Lalne
04-23-2006, 07:24 PM
Since my Wal*Marts(yes, my town has TWO)don't have the generic Sith sabers, I was wondering if anyone had tested the generic Jedis.

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Do-Clo
04-23-2006, 07:31 PM
The Jedi doesn't sound as good but it will work fine. The sith have a deeper sound to them.

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Lord_Jyensba_Lalne
04-23-2006, 07:41 PM
I already have a ROTS Vader board, I was just wondering about the Jedis 'cause I want to make two more sabers.

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Do-Clo
04-23-2006, 09:14 PM
Go ahead and use them they will work fine.

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LAN-ED-TUL
04-24-2006, 01:13 AM
shoot, be happy ya found those, i cant find any of the darned things round here.





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Do-Clo
04-24-2006, 05:15 AM
Same here I have never seen any generic sabers of any type just the regular hasbro sabers

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james3
04-24-2006, 07:39 AM
Those sabers seemed to be real hit or miss with where they were avalible. I ended up getting three right before Christmas, but by Christmas Eve they were all gone, never saw the super sale like some folks have had.

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Ambo
04-24-2006, 01:33 PM
When u say generic do you mean those cheapo flashlight kind "space sword" things that they have there or do they actually have "star wars" on tha package?

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suit_man
04-24-2006, 01:48 PM
they actually had star wars on them, they were fashioned after qui gon's saber, but with either a red or a green blade. there were also obi wan ep I sabers, but they had crappy sound. they were 8 dollars at wal mart.

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MetaDi
04-24-2006, 03:01 PM
i have a vid of the vader (idkwhat version it is, it really dosent say..) of the flash and clash

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the_steve
04-24-2006, 04:47 PM
okay, i'm confused on one note. With the one switch wiring, Does it matter if you use 3v or 6v, and do you need a resistor between the batteries and the board? My current soundless set up uses 3v and no resistor for a green 1 watt. If i use 6 v, do i need a resistor anywhere?

the_steve
04-24-2006, 07:04 PM
Well i finally found the answer to MY question. But i may need help later. when i get the SB out, i will probaly take a pic of it hoping to recieve some help on which wire goes where.

Lord_Jyensba_Lalne
04-24-2006, 07:24 PM
Yeah, I finally figured out that very thing when I got home from school today. But the sound turns off without me pushing the button. at first, it wouldn't turn on at all. Then there would be an activate/deactivate sound at the same time. Then it would activate, go into the standby sound, and then deactivate when I pushed teh button. But now it does that, but when I move the movement sensor, it turns off. Any ideas what is happening?

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xwingband
04-24-2006, 07:37 PM
Are you sure no wires are touching? There is a feature that turns it off after a minute to save batteries but nothing like you describe.

the_steve, if you didn't figure it out the LED can be run from the sound board, if the board has the flash on clash will showup, but it does get rid of the need for a resistor.

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04-24-2006, 08:14 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by the_steve

Well i finally found the answer to MY question. But i may need help later. when i get the SB out, i will probaly take a pic of it hoping to recieve some help on which wire goes where.
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Pay attention when you take it apart and write down where the wires go.

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Lord_Jyensba_Lalne
04-25-2006, 01:46 PM
Actually, after leaving it alone for about 2 hours, it started working properly again. No idea what happened.

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the_steve
04-25-2006, 02:10 PM
perhaps something was just shorting out? Oh and is it safe to run a 1 watt from a hasbro board with 4 AAAs? I have only seen 3 watters used.

Oh yeah and here is my design i drew up yesterday.
The top half of my current saber fits perfectly into my umbrella pole, so it will be used as the blade holder.
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xwingband
04-25-2006, 02:18 PM
I think you just have to use less batteries. 4 is too much... I can't remember how many though... 3 or 2.

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the_steve
04-25-2006, 02:19 PM
Where can i find this?

xwingband
04-25-2006, 02:23 PM
I found it. The reason I couldn't remember which is because it doesn't matter.[:)]

"With a 2AA - 3AA setup, the Hasbro board can power a 1watt Star/o without a resistor. With a 4AA setup, it can power a Lux 3 without a resistor. The board itself already regulates the power since it's made to power a 1 watt lightbulb on 2C's."- UltraSWG

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the_steve
04-25-2006, 02:36 PM
okay, but what soundboards actually use c batteries? If the one i get use different amounts of batteries, won't that change it? I don't want to ruin a soundboard. I only have enough money for one right now.

xwingband
04-25-2006, 02:43 PM
Sometimes those soundboards will crap out on you randomly so as long as don't overdrive it you shouldn't worry. I don't know what all of them use but I'm pretty sure all the new ones use 2C's except the Obi.

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the_steve
04-25-2006, 02:44 PM
okay. I guess i will be safe and use 2 batteries. I already have the 2 battery pack anyway.

Lord_Jyensba_Lalne
04-25-2006, 02:54 PM
Also, if you happen to come across an Anakin color changing, not that you would buy it because of the size of the board, it hold 3 AAs. Just so you know.

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the_steve
04-25-2006, 03:00 PM
My Friend has a Luke RotJ hasbro that we broke dueling with a while back. He saved the hilt and He is gonna find out how many batteries it takes. If it takes 4 AA's, can i use 4 AAA's to power it? I am not sure how the sound is, but hey, it's a free sound board.

xwingband
04-25-2006, 03:17 PM
No, that'd be 4AA to power the 1W bulb. I don't think you have to worry about anything like that anyway. They all run on 3 or 2 batteries. It doesn't matter which you use D, C, AA, and AAA's are all 1.5V so the difference would be in run time.

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the_steve
04-25-2006, 03:22 PM
well i think it runs on 4 AA's and so does my friend. He will call me soon though to tell me. If he can find it.

Scrap that idea. His parents got rid of that saber hilt. Well, i guess i will try my luck with finding a cheapo saber.

Ambo
04-25-2006, 05:46 PM
The Obi Wan and the Ani use 3 AA the Darth(ep 3 ver.) uses 2 C the generic sith use 2 C the Yoda uses 2 C...I have bought them all. I have used up to 4 AAA on the sound boards and had no problems yet, so anything under that voltage will not be a problem.

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the_steve
04-25-2006, 06:27 PM
I just picked up the hasbro Darth Vader. I have no C batteries to test it with, but i will go by faith that this has good sounds.

xwingband
04-25-2006, 06:31 PM
You don't need C's. You can run it off of 2AA or 2AAA. They're the same voltage.

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the_steve
04-25-2006, 06:49 PM
i know, but everything is still in the hilt. I just wanted to hear the sound while in the saber the easy way.

Okay i succesfully defied the glue in the hilt and desoldered what i needde to so now i have it all disassembled. And now i have a little toy Vader saber just for fun.[8D]

Ambo
04-25-2006, 07:46 PM
it will sound different in a metal tube than in a plastic toy BTW, tends to have a lower throaty sound in sink pipe type tubes. Kinda like puttin straight pipes on a motorcycle or truck.

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Do-Clo
04-26-2006, 06:32 AM
The hasbro sound board sound is greatly improved in a sink tube ambo is correct the sound is deeper sounding, much better than in the plastic hilt.

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the_steve
04-26-2006, 01:56 PM
the damn wires are so thin they keep breaking at the solder points, so i had to strip and resolder three times!! Did anyone else have that problem?

xwingband
04-26-2006, 01:59 PM
Yes, they really suck. When I get home I'm going to put hot glue on the board because I'm sick of resoldering them.

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Do-Clo
04-26-2006, 02:01 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by the_steve

the damn wires are so thin they keep breaking at the solder points, so i had to strip and resolder three times!! Did anyone else have that problem?
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No problem at all with the wires, keep in mind that one must exercise caution when working with small wires, they can be fragile.

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Ambo
04-26-2006, 02:56 PM
I either hot glue em as soon as i get em out of the saber or i replace all the wires with heavier duty wire, but yeah it is a common thing.

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the_steve
04-26-2006, 03:04 PM
So should i just coat the connections with hot glue? After i get these three wires resoldered, i guess i will try. Good idea. I think i am gonna try to put everything into a film canister. Does it matter if the metal cylinder on the impact sensor touches any of the connections on the board? Will that short it out? It seems like it would be really hard to attach these into a configuration where no connections touch. What i think i will do is glue the impact sensor where i think it won't touch any connections, slip that into the canister, then glue the motion sensor to the wall of the canister, and put it above the batteries. Will that work okay? And also, if my speaker wire is too short, do i just extend it with normal conductive wires?

Lord_Jyensba_Lalne
04-26-2006, 03:45 PM
I think you could be able to attach other wires to the speaker wires no problem. And I'm not that sure that you could fit all the stuff into a film canister, let alone making nothing touch. I think that's gonna be a B*%&h. But if you can pull it off, more power to 'ya.

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suit_man
04-26-2006, 03:57 PM
it is possible to fit into a film canister, i can't remember who, but someone on here did it before.

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steel_darkblade
04-26-2006, 04:17 PM
How the hell did you guys manage to fit the speaker inside the MHS? Aren't they a tad too big?

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Do-Clo
04-26-2006, 04:30 PM
With some serious and careful sanding of the speaker you can make it fit but I recommend looking for a different speaker.

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steel_darkblade
04-26-2006, 04:40 PM
Any recommendations on alternate speakers Do? Something comparable sound wise?

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xwingband
04-26-2006, 04:42 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by suit_man

it is possible to fit into a film canister, i can't remember who, but someone on here did it before.

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Scaarmor I believe... he hasn't been posting lately. I think he's planning his suprise of me.[:D]

Do-Clo, I too would be interested in any alternate speakers you've used.

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Do-Clo
04-26-2006, 04:55 PM
Ok guys you are about to make a strange face when I tell my source for speakers. I use speakers out of a nextel phone, the older models such as the i1000, i500 and i700 phones. They are a good speaker
8 ohms and 32 mm in diameter works great now all you have to do is buy an old nextel phone and scrap it for the speaker.[:p]

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Lord_Jyensba_Lalne
04-26-2006, 06:07 PM
*makes funny face.*
I hope they're cheap...Spend as much on the speaker as the saber do you?

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Do-Clo
04-26-2006, 06:15 PM
I have a very limited supply that I am hording.[}:)]

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the_steve
04-26-2006, 07:47 PM
Okay well i got it all glued together and it fits into a film cansiter. I have my wire connections held together with wire nuts right now. I will solder them tomorrow. I have tested the whole system and it works great. But what is the easiest and safest way to solder your own switch to the board?

The only things i need to do are:
1. Secure my blade holder
2. Solder switch to board
3. Drill two small holes on the bottom of the canister for the + & - to the LED
4. Solder all of the connections
5. Every good list has a 5
6. Insert and secure the switch
7. Stuff it all in there
8. Put on an endcap with speaker.

Thanks for the help all![8D]

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04-26-2006, 07:59 PM
9. Figure out an effective way to lose the Flash on Clash.

I'm having trouble with that.

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04-26-2006, 08:28 PM
10) Pull out hair trying to solve flash on clash
11) Buy rolaids by the case for stomach acid caused by the stress
12) Buy hair piece to replace missing hair
13) Mumble to self when in a crowd
14) Give up all hope and take up needle point





Sorry couldn't resist, I may have time this weekend to experiment with my idea if my parts come in.


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LAN-ED-TUL
04-26-2006, 09:15 PM
15. buy another board, cuz i just fried the last one.




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04-26-2006, 10:20 PM
16. Go to Cantina but don't forget to leave the droids at home.[:D]

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steel_darkblade
04-26-2006, 11:17 PM
can't just disconnect it and tie the it to high?

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LAN-ED-TUL
04-27-2006, 02:44 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by steel_darkblade

can't just disconnect it and tie the it to high?

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huh?




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04-27-2006, 05:34 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by steel_darkblade

can't just disconnect it and tie the it to high?
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I could, but pot is illegal here.

As I just said, in the Hasbro FOC thread, what controlls the flash is under that glob, impossible to open without damaging something. It's easier to make your own, I was tinkering for a long time. My neck still hurts.

Didn't fry it though.

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04-27-2006, 05:41 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by WeirdoTransvestite

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by steel_darkblade

can't just disconnect it and tie the it to high?
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I could, but pot is illegal here.

As I just said, in the Hasbro FOC thread, what controlls the flash is under that glob, impossible to open without damaging something. It's easier to make your own, I was tinkering for a long time. My neck still hurts.

Didn't fry it though.

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LAN-ED-TUL
04-27-2006, 05:46 AM
isnt that the truth. lol




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the_steve
04-27-2006, 01:42 PM
I really don't mind the FOC. I actually like it.[:D] I guess i will dill the holes and solder the connections today.

the_steve
04-27-2006, 02:02 PM
Oh yeeah, and nobody answered my question about how to solder your pwn switch? What's the safest way to do it?

Do-Clo
04-27-2006, 02:46 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by the_steve

Oh yeeah, and nobody answered my question about how to solder your pwn switch? What's the safest way to do it?
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You are serious right, You need practice soldering on some scrap wires and stuff that you are not going to use until you get the hang of it. There is no step a, b, or c in soldering, you just do it and practice till you get it right.

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DARTHMONKEY1706
04-27-2006, 02:50 PM
HOW do the hasbro sabers sound?

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Do-Clo
04-27-2006, 02:52 PM
Try one and see how they sound, or take the time to read the previous 11 pages of this thread and decide for yourself

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DARTHMONKEY1706
04-27-2006, 02:57 PM
try one i don't have one any sound files?

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xwingband
04-27-2006, 03:00 PM
You could buy one OR go by the recommendations already in this thread. OR god forbid you could bump the thread that you already asked for sound files.[;)]

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04-27-2006, 07:46 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Do-Clo

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by the_steve

Oh yeeah, and nobody answered my question about how to solder your pwn switch? What's the safest way to do it?
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You are serious right, You need practice soldering on some scrap wires and stuff that you are not going to use until you get the hang of it. There is no step a, b, or c in soldering, you just do it and practice till you get it right.

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Of course i know ho to solder. I have done most of the soldering work on the sabers so far. I just know that the switch is different because of the awkward soldering space.

Well my dad used his multimeter to find two actual solder points for the switch. On the Hasbro Vader ROTS (i think) On the side of the board with text printed in it there is two little solder points that say "On/off" near them. Use a multimeter to find the two if you cant. That made life so much easier. Now we have our own switch wired up. All i have left to do is solder the rest of the connections, stuff the stuff into the hilt, and then put the speaker in the endpiece.

Madcow
04-27-2006, 10:10 PM
Okay,
After reading 12 pages of posts - I can guess the answer to this question, but I need to ask anyways... With my Vader ROTS board - is there any way to connect it that would eliminate that annoying flashing of the light when it clashes and is turned on/off?

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GFORCE13
04-27-2006, 10:55 PM
If you are using a Led I would just connect it straight through from switch and avoid the sound board Lamp out and use a DPDT Switch.[:)]

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Do-Clo
04-27-2006, 10:57 PM
Sorry the only way is to use two switches and power the led seperate of the sound board.

The dpdt switch will not work out since the hasbro sound board requires a momentary type switch and in order to keep the led turned on it requires an on/off type switch.

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Nynthu
04-28-2006, 08:45 AM
I use to feel the same way as you about the flashing so I used the Corbin board to illiminate the flashing effect. But the problem I found with that is the light goes off before the sound shuts off. This annoyed me even more so I actually prefer the flashing now because it is in time with the sound turning on and off. I really like the Corbin driver if I'm creating a lightsaber with light only, but because of the timing issues with shutting on and off I recommend just living with the flashing effect or using two switches where light and sound turn on seperate like Do-Clo says.

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steel_darkblade
04-28-2006, 09:40 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Do-Clo

Sorry the only way is to use two switches and power the led seperate of the sound board.

The dpdt switch will not work out since the hasbro sound board requires a momentary type switch and in order to keep the led turned on it requires an on/off type switch.

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Do, is there -absolutely no way to make one of the latches on the DPDT a momentary one? Or if not, do the reverse, start of with a DPDT momentary, then make one of them latching?

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Do-Clo
04-28-2006, 09:48 AM
Sorry the switch is either one or the other. There is only one switch that I have seen that has both monetary and latching but it is a large industrial toggle switch and I am not sure if it is being made anymore, it was made by Carling if I remember correctly. Your hilt would have to be 4" in diameter for that switch too look right.[:D]

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LAN-ED-TUL
04-28-2006, 11:48 AM
yea thats a bit big do-clo, lol except if your the jolly green giant, lol




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Do-Clo
04-28-2006, 12:24 PM
Well I did say it was to big for the normal hilt. That would make a huge saber though the hilt would be 31" long 4" in diameter, with a 2.5 in diameter blade that would be 104 inches long, now that's a saber. I wonder if the wife would mind if I built one for the front yard??????[:D]

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the_steve
04-28-2006, 01:54 PM
w00t! All i have left to do is put in my blade set screw and put on an endcap. Everything is together and in the hilt! The speaker just hangs out of it right now, but it wis together and works and looks great.[:D]

Oh yeah, and the hilt is completely blank so now i have an all chrome hilt to decorate.

Madcow
04-28-2006, 06:07 PM
Thanks guys,
I haven't considered a Corbin driver board yet. What are the advantages of using one over just a resistor?

(And yes - this will be a red 3w Lux saber)

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the_steve
04-28-2006, 06:11 PM
Alright guys, the saber is complete! Check out pics in the gallery and the misc. forum gallery. Thanks for all your help.

xwingband
04-28-2006, 06:43 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Madcow

Thanks guys,
I haven't considered a Corbin driver board yet. What are the advantages of using one over just a resistor?

(And yes - this will be a red 3w Lux saber)

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Well, first it makes the LED brighter. It switches back and forth between a higher than rated level and a lower one. The eye only sees the brighter one yet it consumes power at the average of the two.

It gives you the up/down retraction when you use Corbin's film. I'm not sure on other films...

It has a "Clash and Lock" feature which is like a shimmer. When used with a Hasbro it does it automatically on clash.

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Madcow
04-29-2006, 06:58 PM
Does anyone know the resistance of the hasbro boards?

I took a 2004 vader board and hooked it up to a circuit with a red 3w.

Normally a red 3w needs 2.89 volts (2 AA batteries)... but with both the board and the LED on the circuit both seem sluggish. So I did the same with 6 volts. It seemed way to hot.

So what I want to know is... can I use 4.5 or 6volts with the right resistor in the circut... the right resistor being ________?


Any help?

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suit_man
04-29-2006, 07:59 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Do-Clo

Sorry the switch is either one or the other.
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what about using a three position slider switch? the middle position would activate sound, then the final position would turn the light on then it would be one motion forward to activate sound and light, would get rid of the flash on clash and then one motion down to turn off.

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04-29-2006, 08:10 PM
That probably would work, you'd just have to switch it on in one quick motion to simulate a momentary switch.

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james3
04-30-2006, 05:36 AM
I had a brain fart. What about using the momentary button of a door bell box with a standard button mounted under it so when you push the button you get your momentary off of the doorbell and at the same time you are depressing the spst on/off lighting up the saber.

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04-30-2006, 10:26 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by james3

I had a brain fart. What about using the momentary button of a door bell box with a standard button mounted under it so when you push the button you get your momentary off of the doorbell and at the same time you are depressing the spst on/off lighting up the saber.

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It could be done it would take some dremel work on the switch.

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Madcow
04-30-2006, 01:29 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Madcow

Does anyone know the resistance of the hasbro boards?

I took a 2004 vader board and hooked it up to a circuit with a red 3w.

Normally a red 3w needs 2.89 volts (2 AA batteries)... but with both the board and the LED on the circuit both seem sluggish. So I did the same with 6 volts. It seemed way to hot.

So what I want to know is... can I use 4.5 or 6volts with the right resistor in the circut... the right resistor being ________?


Any help?

MC

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Still no answer on the resistance value of a hasbro sound board???

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xwingband
04-30-2006, 02:15 PM
The hasbro pretty much powers it to full flux, since it normally uses a 1W bulb, so if there is any correction it's not going to be much... I don't know what you define as hot either. 10 minutes on the holder is fairly warm to the touch...

Moral is anyone have a multimeter?[:D]

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Do-Clo
04-30-2006, 02:34 PM
You can use 4.5 volts with a hasbro sound board and drive the led direct with no extra resistor. The current is what kills the led and the 3 watt led is able to run up to 1000ma, the hasbro sound board will not produce enough current to even get close to that amount so you are safe with 3 AA batteries.

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Madcow
04-30-2006, 04:13 PM
Thanks guys,
Wait till you see this saber!

ETA, 6 weeks or so.

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james3
04-30-2006, 04:41 PM
Totally looking forward to it MC.

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Pirate King
04-30-2006, 07:41 PM
So I finally get the switch soldered on to my vader aaaaand it fries....

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04-30-2006, 08:52 PM
You have to make sure nothing is crossed before you apply power. The solder could have been as thin as a hair.

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james3
04-30-2006, 09:12 PM
I am guessing you just mean the switch, there are places to get small sliders like www.allelectronics.com but if you have a meter you can clean all the solder off and test it may still work.

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Pirate King
05-01-2006, 04:49 PM
I doubt it. when I had everything connected, one of the little black boxes definitely turned white and started smoking.

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Do-Clo
05-01-2006, 05:06 PM
You have released the magic smoke, it will no longer work.[xx(]

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LAN-ED-TUL
05-01-2006, 06:52 PM
ah, the powerful smoke lord has spoken, showed himself, and made himself known to you, is that a priviledge? i doubt it, more like being on the dark side of the moon.




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05-01-2006, 07:33 PM
Ouch! No magic smoke, no work. Sorry to hear that bud.

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05-01-2006, 08:04 PM
Ali baba has rubbed the magic circuit board, and set the genie free.

*pumps shotgun*

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05-01-2006, 10:09 PM
Funny[:p][:p]
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Do-Clo
05-02-2006, 06:53 AM
Sorry guys once the genie is of of the bottle there is no putting him back in.[:D]

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Pirate King
05-02-2006, 09:45 AM
no matter, I have a dooku on the way, and maybe an AOTC I can get for a couple bucks. I hear its got crappy sou nd, but another cheap board is welcome.

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Do-Clo
05-02-2006, 09:53 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Pirate King

no matter, I have a dooku on the way, and maybe an AOTC I can get for a couple bucks. I hear its got crappy sou nd, but another cheap board is welcome.

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It is a challenge to find a ggod sound board for a saber that doesn't cost a fortune, the sound on the dooku saber is very good close to the vader saber. I got some obi-wan feel the force sound boards and they are ok but you have to pull the darn vibrating motor out.

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LAN-ED-TUL
05-02-2006, 03:16 PM
unless of course you wanted to rig it like using corbins board with the motor.




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GFORCE13
05-02-2006, 10:26 PM
Easy to do and works well, that is what I did on my last one I built, Corbins Board, Hasbro board with the Force Resonator, works well and everybody I show it too really likes the effect.

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Pirate King
05-03-2006, 11:33 AM
I dunno, I find the vibration function kind of repetitive. It's gonna have natural vibration when you strike things, why add a pointless shaking thing?

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xwingband
05-03-2006, 12:12 PM
With Corbin's board off the lamp wire it idles while just holding it and sputters during the on/off. That is why it's [8D]

Imagine that'd be pretty similar to in ANH with the spinning rod.

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05-05-2006, 02:57 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by xwingband

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Madcow

Thanks guys,
I haven't considered a Corbin driver board yet. What are the advantages of using one over just a resistor?

(And yes - this will be a red 3w Lux saber)

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Well, first it makes the LED brighter. It switches back and forth between a higher than rated level and a lower one. The eye only sees the brighter one yet it consumes power at the average of the two.

It gives you the up/down retraction when you use Corbin's film. I'm not sure on other films...

It has a "Clash and Lock" feature which is like a shimmer. When used with a Hasbro it does it automatically on clash.

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What exactly is this flashing feature on the hasbro sound board (haven't actually had a chance to play with one yet)? it just turns the light on and off or something? So how would Corbin's C&L feature be able tos how through the sound board's flashing?

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LAN-ED-TUL
05-05-2006, 03:02 PM
the flash occurs when you strike something with the blade. it makes the light up the blade blink a few times. then resume constant.

as far as corbins board controlling this, i dont have one so i cant tell you. but the way its designed it changes that to do something else.




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xwingband
05-05-2006, 03:05 PM
The clashing on a hasbro is a strobe. It turns on and off maybe a half dozen times during the power up/down sounds. The clash on Corbin's is more like having a brightness dial and diming it back and forth.

Corbin's board is driving the LED so that flash doesn't come through. In the prefered wiring method you connect the clash sensor of the Hasbro to corbin's board so that when it senses the clash it will automatically turn on the C&L feature. Normally Corbin's board alone uses a second switch for this.

EDIT: Lan sort of beat me.[:)]

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LAN-ED-TUL
05-05-2006, 08:36 PM
i just happened to see it first thats all, lol your explanation was better anyways. you da man x-wing.




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gundamaniac
05-06-2006, 03:22 AM
Oh, ok. Thanks for clearing all that up. I was really rather worried that the Hasbro's flash feature would ramp down power to Corbin's board causing it to shut off or the Hasbro flash and Corbin's C&L would conflict with each other causing some funky light effect. But since his C&L is activated by the flash, I can cut out a switch which I wasn't sure where to place on the hilt anyway, and I can have C&L activated on "impact". Hm. Pretty dang nifty.

Except...I have another question xwingband. If the hasbro clash reature strobes during power up/down, then wouldn't Corbin's board's extend/retract feature not work also? When the saber is turned on and the hasbro clash strobes activate, then Corbin's board would read it as a C&L reaction, wouldn't it?

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Do-Clo
05-06-2006, 06:49 AM
The power up and power down flash from the hasbro sound board is different from the the flash on clash. The flash on clash is only triggered by the impact sensor which is what you connect to corbin's board. The flash on power up and down is a function of turning the power on and off and is an independent function from clash. The Led is controlled by cobin's board only so the output from the hasbro which would normally be connected to a led is not connected to the led and can not effect it.

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xwingband
05-06-2006, 08:07 AM
Yeah, think of it like the Hasbro is piggybacking on Corbin's board. It's grabbing power and offering the clash sensor through his board, but otherwise it's completely on it's own. It runs the sound and the wire(s) that's normally used for the LED just get's unused unless you use it for a motor.

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gundamaniac
05-06-2006, 08:50 AM
Ah alright. Cool, thanks for clearing all that up. Just the way I hoped it would work [:D]

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Pirate King
05-12-2006, 07:42 PM
my dooku came in, It has an awesome sound, but its kind of quiet and it doesn't have a motion sensor. I thought you guys said it did? oh well, it sounds cool. if I were to use a different speaker, is there a way to make it louder, or is that controlled by the board?

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xwingband
05-12-2006, 07:45 PM
When you use more batteries it will be louder. I didn't notice to much of a difference when I replaced the speaker though. I used a radioshack one so I don't know how it would compare to any others.

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james3
05-12-2006, 07:54 PM
Strange, my Dooku has a motion sensor in it. Even the standard Sith has one too as they are the same board.

You may have gotten an oddball or broken one maybe?

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Pirate King
05-14-2006, 09:07 AM
maybe aotc dooku versus a rots one?

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06-12-2006, 09:26 AM
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This one is a bugger to remove from the hilt. The two LED wires go to the clash sensor two, but in the brute force removal I pulled all four wires out.[:I]

The battery pack is not pictured because without the hilt it's useless.

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OOOOkkkkaayyyy! After about 45 minutes of pouring through the thread (backwards, at that!), I finally found this the pic I was looking for. Now, forgive me, I did read the posts (like stereo instructions in Latin!), and since it's been about, oh, 20-some-odd years since I last picked up a soldering iron or did anything remotely electronic besides hit "power" on a remote[:I], can someone be so kind as to let me know if I can simply take the pictured set up and fit it into the MHS, or is there yet another product I gotta order? Insight, simplified for this Dummy, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, guys.

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xwingband
06-12-2006, 09:52 AM
You might want to take off the motor... also the speaker is like the other hasbros, a hair too large for the MHS. The board itself should fit no problems.

Replacing the switch like normal... and it should work super.[:D] If you didn't order a switch radioshack has plenty of ones that will work (Momentary SPST's are the one thing they have no lack of) and a replacement speaker too.

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naashar
06-12-2006, 10:03 AM
Thanks, X! I was a good Do-Bee and ordered Tim's switch, so that news is encouraging. I'll try to find an alternate speaker as well.
I saw all the talk about "Corbin's Board" and it was a bit intimidating. So, to sum up:
1. Throw away the motor.
2. Find another speaker.

All else should be fine(?).

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xwingband
06-12-2006, 12:16 PM
Yup, that should be it. That board is fairly good since it has two LED leads already.[:)]

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luis rojas
06-19-2006, 02:06 PM
Hi, I'm a young padawan who needs help:
I have recently bought an "ultimate built your own lightsaber" kit for using the sound board in my custom lightsaber (that was the only one that I could find here). I've already put the luxeon led on it and It worked fine, but (there is always a but)but the original Hasbro saber has a chamber where you can put a "crystal" on. This chamber has some kind of contact switch that changes te sound. I would like to use this device for adding sound to my saber but I don't know how to use this switch because if I press it the saber shuts down. Does this switch controls the type of sound? How can I overide it? or even better how can I put a switch to change the sound?
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06-19-2006, 03:17 PM
I have not had that kit in my hands but if I understand it correctly the crystal presses on switches that are in the slot it goes in so it should be a simple matter to take the crystal holder apart and figure out the switch pattern for the different sounds.

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Yoiaholic
06-19-2006, 03:53 PM
Do-Clo is right, you need to remove the crystal housing and secure the tabs needed to make the desired sound. I had this sound board and I LOVED it (despite what other people on this forum might say about it) until I fried it with my soldering iron... opps.

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Pirate King
06-19-2006, 04:58 PM
that's actually explained several times within this very thread...

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06-20-2006, 06:16 AM
Thanks. I will make the tests tonight.

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oubliette
08-11-2006, 12:28 PM
Excelent thread. It's explained a lot to me that I've been struggling with, but, I have some more questions that were fuzzy.

1) Of the currently available Hasbro blades, which would you say sounds the best?

2) Of the avalable Hasbro blades, which is more appropreate for a Corbin board? a 2 cell or 3 cell model? I'm noticing that differnt models take more or less batteries.

3) What's up with the "Build Your Own Lightsaber" blades? That have 'Different' sound modes?? ...seems odd..

4) Anyone know what the deal is with the "press a button to change the blade to red" thing. Is it a secondary LED lead? How is the sound on these items?

5) anyone ever tried a peizo speaker for these? Think it would be too 'tinny'?

Thanky kindly for the consideration of these questions. [:)]

Do-Clo
08-11-2006, 01:18 PM
1) the sith sabers tend to sound a little better then the others

2) you want to get the three cell hasbro model

3) They have a plastic chip which when it is inserted it presses different switches
to change the sound

4) The color change model has two sets of leds and the switch selects red or blue

5) Piezo speaker would not work out well the sound would be poor

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htmagic
08-16-2006, 07:44 AM
The Hasbro sound modules are designed for 3 volt service. Anything much above that will fry the chip. [:(]

The Hasbro sound modules won't work with an EL lightsaber running at 9 to 12 volts. I'm looking at designing a sound module that be added to the pommel end of the lightsabers and work off of 9 - 12 volts. What would be a reasonable price for such an addition considering the (somewhat) limited market we have here? [:D]

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Do-Clo
08-16-2006, 09:39 AM
Before offering something for sell you need to check with Tim, owner of TCSS you know the saber shop that is attached to this forum, after all it is his forum and his shop. You will notice a little click to enter store link at the top of the page.[;)]

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xwingband
08-16-2006, 12:46 PM
If you think you can make a unit that is cheaper than $45, equals the MR in quality, and make the quantity Tim needs then you might have something, but until then it's MR and Hasbro that we will keep coming back to.

BTW some Hasbro's can take more than 3V. The 3 celled ones operate at 4.5V and easily take 6V if you want to power a 3W LED (the 3V ones do tend to fry, but some don't). Also because of the low amperage involved with a 9V battery sound is quite fine with a 5V voltage reducer to a Hasbro or MR.

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08-18-2006, 12:54 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Do-Clo



3) They have a plastic chip which when it is inserted it presses different switches
to change the sound
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Hi I used the "Built your Own LIghtsaber" board with a pack of four AAA batteries to ignite it and power the 3W luxeon led. I also cut the wires of thee switch and I must say that the effect is great, every time you ignite it, the sound changes between the 3 different "styles" so you can choose the saber "voice"..

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Lord Maul
08-18-2006, 04:37 PM
so every time you ignite it you hear a different sound? that is pretty cool luis

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HiddenMooCow
08-18-2006, 05:42 PM
Are you talking about the build your own lightsaber thingy I keep seeing on Ebay all the time? I never knew quite what it was.

Schmeef
09-06-2006, 03:24 AM
I'd just like to post my experiences of Hasbro sabers. I read in this post that the rotj vader saber was amoung the best, so I tracked one down on ebay, eager to gut it of it's sound hardware. When it turned up (very late 'cos of a postal strike [:(!]) i was sorely disappointed. The idle hum is just like solid static, with a random "whump" every so often. It flashes on clash, and the clash sound is dreadful. Overall is sounds like a lightsaber in no way at all. So buy with caution, it appears the insides of externally identical sabers can very wildly

james3
09-06-2006, 06:39 AM
Welcome. I think you have made a great point there Schmeef. I have two "Jedi" sabers that came out last year that was the redo of the Qui-Gon saber, One has flash on clash and one has a sound more like my old original Qui-Gon. I really think that they somewhat try to keep them consistant but if they have a batch of boards that need to be used then that is what they will use. I think that when people talk about the Vader they are talkin the earlier model instead of the one out in stores now. I must admit that I was so let down by the hasbro boards that if someone wants sound then I recommend MR-FX or if not in the U.S. go with Erv's setup. The only other option if I understand right is exclusive to the whole blade and everything so that would not work in what we are doing right now.


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mikenmel
09-09-2006, 01:22 AM
So let me try to get this straight. (2am, first saber, too many darned posts)
First: I'm building EL saber. Have sound board from new darth vadar saber (or maybe sith..) and also have mace saber that I haven't taken apart yet.
Please confirm the following:
1. Concensus is to have two seperate power sources since EL needs 9v and the board should see no more than 4.5v? OR a nice fatty resistor needs to protect the board?
2. The switch that is on the board of the new vadar sound card can be bypassed by soldering another switch to...(this is where info got sketchy)... two posts that are labeled on/off or carefully disassemble the plastic onboard button and solder to the exposed rings?
3. Wires of boards are fragile, best to verify everything works, then hotglue the whole smash and/or replace the wires with sturdier stuff?
4. Film canister makes a good box for the sensors and board.?
5. 800 degree soldering irons makes white burn that still really hurts....

Did I get everything? Any other thing I missed about problems with hasbro and EL blade?

Cheers

xwingband
09-09-2006, 06:55 AM
That's pretty much it, but...

On number one, you can run on a single source if you are careful about soldering in the case of AA or AAA packs or use a voltage regulator.

For two... I believe that the case. I think the_steve said that, I wish I still had a board around to confirm.

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Do-Clo
09-09-2006, 09:22 AM
Check the thread index and you will find a setup for el sound using a single switch using a relay, works great.

800 degree soldering irons makes white burn that still really hurts....

It only hurts for a moment then you don't feel anything because the nerve endings are fried too, no blister and in a few days the dead skin drops off.[:D]

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09-09-2006, 09:44 AM
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there's a nice thought do clo [:D][B)][:p]

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09-09-2006, 09:46 AM
You should try it Private Pyle[:p]

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09-09-2006, 12:18 PM
Why? What possible benefit is there to us? He can't post for a whi--- Do it Pyle.

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GFORCE13
09-28-2006, 11:09 PM
My sound on my Hilt died March and finally took it apart and installed a new speaker(Ebay ones from other thread), I have the set up with Corbins Driver powering the Lux 3W and the Hasbro(Swing & Clash) with the lamp output going to the Force Resonator. New speaker in still no sound so checked the +&- Connections (6v) good and the force resonator is going and powering up&down,clash so I got to believe the board is working. Checked the speaker on a another S.Board(Works) and I continuity checked the wires to the speaker (0ohm)good. Does anybody have any ideas, I am leaning towards future board replacement?

james3
09-29-2006, 06:15 AM
If you tried just driving the speaker with the lamp connection disconected and didn't get any noise I would say the board has lost some magic smoke.

GFORCE13
09-30-2006, 10:21 PM
Thanks for the Tip James, I was going to take a milivolt reading from a working board and compairing it to this one but your technique is a lot easier, it just seems that these Sound Boards are not the most hearty electronics. :(

Ros
11-06-2006, 03:23 PM
Has anybody heard the new "spring action" sabers from hasbro?
the sound is much better than the old sabers they put out.
the ignition sound isn't so "explodey" and the hum is quite a bit more clear. i'm in the final stages of constructing a saber using this sound board and i'm really pleased with the way it turned out.

Lord Maul
11-06-2006, 03:41 PM
yeah, i just saw the spring loaded comercials the other day. complete crap looks. as for the sound, i thought it was the same, next time i see the commercial i'll listen closer. does the spring loaded saber seem any brighter than the non-spring loaded (excluding the color changing anakin)? i would think the spring makes the light dimmer but that could be wrong.

Ros
11-06-2006, 04:21 PM
i haven't seen the anakin saber yet...but the spring action saber has a cluster of three LED's. it's pretty bright, but the cluster is on this wierd circut board thing...and it's pretty wide. i just built my own LED cluster and it's working great! having the speaker right up agains the meatal of my hilt really makes the sound carry. i think this sound board is a great alternative to buying one of the more expecive master replica saber sound cards.

xwingband
11-06-2006, 04:31 PM
hmm... can you compare it to an Obi ROTS board? That's the one that had the LED cluster in it. The Obi is pretty decent if you disable the clash, which is just awful. It's like a static bloom or something.

Ros
11-06-2006, 04:44 PM
honestly i really don't have much experience in the matter. the last saber i built with sound was using the sound card from a Qui-gon saber.i can tell you that the sounds i get from the luke spring action saber are a zillion times better....they actually sound like light saber sounds. i'm really happy with it.