Rebel optics that are compatable with all rebel leds.

[Hasid Lafre]

http://www.luxeonstar.com/endor-star-25°-3up-lens-for-luxeon-rebel-star-leds-p-391.php

I just seen that when looking up the lumen numbers on the k2 and luxV and thought I would post it up. Iam jus tnot sure if it will work for what we use leds for.

[Malaki Skywalker]

IS THAT finally what we have been wait for?? 25 Degree's is a bit over what we want, but still? :confused:

[Hasid Lafre]

Yeah iam not sure about that but if you remember in corbins topic a 10* optics is essentually a 20* optics, 5*=10* So maybe this is 25* all around and not split like where used to.

[Malaki Skywalker]

Yeah iam not sure about that but if you remember in corbins topic a 10* optics is essentually a 20* optics, 5*=10* So maybe this is 25* all around and not split like where used to.

I suppose someone in the near future will try one OR we may even see more choices, hopefully at least 10*

[Hasid Lafre]

Probley but we need to know if they fit for our use.

[Strydur]

They are shorter. I have some...just havent found the time to fully test one.

[Hasid Lafre]

Sweet! Let us know how it goes tim!

[Malaki Skywalker]

Don't forget the pictures :cool:

[Jay-gon Jinn]

http://www.luxeonstar.com/endor-star-25°-3up-lens-for-luxeon-rebel-star-leds-p-391.php

I just seen that when looking up the lumen numbers on the k2 and luxV and thought I would post it up. Iam jus tnot sure if it will work for what we use leds for.


I beat you to it already Hasid:D:
http://forums.thecustomsabershop.com/showthread.php?t=5260

This was when Tim ordered the ones he has for testing.

[Darth Leximus]

BURN!!!!!!

Sorry it's been a long boring day that just won't end!

[Obi-Dar Ke-Gnomie]

Cool. Would altering the height of the lens affect the angle?

[xwingband]

Cool. Would altering the height of the lens affect the angle?

No it's shorter so that it maintains the angle they advertise. The dome of Rebels are a lot short so the focal point they need is closer... hence shorter optics.

[Hasid Lafre]

Well jay I was prolly not around when you posted that. :P

[LeMoel]

I have one and tested it yesterday,through my eyes it was a complete failure, the color of it is washed out,i dont know if its because of the 3 leds not being in one lens,or if it is the 25 degree optics

i dont know if it will ever work for saber purposes ... and i ran it at it fullest potentcial with 2 buck pucks to try to make a purple..

my prolight was better

i even tryed GRAYvens tecnique wi the epoxy, still wasnt as bright as the prolight

so right now ... its not a positive

[Novastar]

LeMoel, how many volts did you throw at it, and were you sending 1A into each LED? Curious to know at least a LITTLE more detail than what you are saying thus far...

But thanks for testing!

[Hasid Lafre]

Yes technical aspects please, we can take it.

[LeMoel]

i drove the red at 1000 ma 6v,and the blue at 1000 ma 6v, both with buck pucks

oh ya and i was over driving the prolight led, on one 700 ma buck puck, so maybe 600 ma each ?

[Malaki Skywalker]

No light test is any good without pics ;)

[Novastar]

I disagree. Pics are neat, video is much better... but nothing compares to seeing it "realtime".

I, for one, believe LeMoel... and at least the point of TRYING a singular Rebel someday on one's OWN--in comparison to a K2... a Lux III... a Lux V... a P4--seems like a good idea.

[eastern57]

...the point of TRYING a singular Rebel someday on one's OWN--in comparison to a K2... a Lux III... a Lux V... a P4--seems like a good idea.

I would bet money that xwingband has tried this already... but just sick of trying to get it through thick skullz...

;)

[LeMoel]

All my single rebel tests are amazing to be honest,there the best led ive tryed, just didnt get much out of the RGB ,but i may still make a video on it,the reason i didnt want to do pictures was because it wouldnt turn out right cuz its on my mack computer camera and its too intense ti get a good pic, but a video is possible

[xwingband]

I would bet money that xwingband has tried this already... but just sick of trying to get it through thick skullz...

;)

AMEN!

I've tried all four. I even posted a V vs. Rebel comparison where the rebel should have been handicapped (flicker was on and had a longer blade). Rebel still beat the V.

I think the singles are working well because of this idea: Ultra once stated V's were doing well because they had a larger emitting surface. True, they're 4 Lux I dies in one dome. Where the Rebel differs is it's getting a lot of lumens in one small area. When you put that under an optic that's a lot of lumens right in the "sweet spot" of the optics.

I do understand Nova's stance though. A true guage of brightness is by the eye, but in a relative nature of "this is brighter than this" the evidence we can give over the internet is fine for that.

[LeMoel]

video RGB rebel "blue only" this led sucks to solder, it comes apart easily ,and it is very easy to screw up the led

since i screwed up some solder pads here is the blue only just to show you the brightness overall

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0yRgQK3chg

[LeMoel]

now look ay the "purple" i made from the prolight RGB
http://forums.thecustomsabershop.com/album.php?albumid=7&pictureid=248

http://forums.thecustomsabershop.com/album.php?albumid=7&pictureid=247

http://forums.thecustomsabershop.com/album.php?albumid=7&pictureid=246

[Malaki Skywalker]

It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, what are you pumping into that Tri-Rebel?

[LeMoel]

6 volts i said previously in this thread, its not bad at all but it is supose to be brighter than the prolight from the spec sheets i do believe

[Malaki Skywalker]

Any chance we can grab some of these early Tim? :cool:

[Jedi-Diah]

Polymer Optics for single Rebels available now from Luxeonstar:

http://www.luxeonstar.com/polymer-optics-6°-collimator-with-holder-fits-rebel-leds-p-431.php

Too bad single colored Rebels aren't available on stars yet (only white). However, Luxeonstar does say that you could mount the Rebels on stars using a hot air soldering iron:

"This base is designed for reflow soldering. For hand soldering you will need to use an appropriate solder paste with a hot air soldering iron or pencil tool. Electrical connections to the LED base can be soldered using hand soldering tools."

http://www.luxeonstar.com/rebel-star-blank-aluminum-mcpcb-base-single-led-20mm-p-395.php

Hot air soldering irons are under $100 so maybe it's something to look into?

[eastern57]

led-tech.de sells single colored rebels on pcbs. I think that's what your first link is showing. The pcbs are small enough to fit on MHS heatsinks.

[Jedi-Diah]

Yeah, you have to get the Rebels on PCB from Led-Tech in Germany and then thermal glue them to your heatsink. I wish they sold all the single Rebels on stars. However, Luxeonstar now sells optics for the single Rebels.

[Obi-Dar Ke-Gnomie]

Didn't Tim say that he could get single rebels of any color mounted on stars?

[Jedi-Diah]

I don't remember if he did. I'll ask him. I'd be happy if he can.


Didn't Tim say that he could get single rebels of any color mounted on stars?

[MoonDragn]

Polymer Optics for single Rebels available now from Luxeonstar:

http://www.luxeonstar.com/polymer-optics-6°-collimator-with-holder-fits-rebel-leds-p-431.php

Too bad single colored Rebels aren't available on stars yet (only white). However, Luxeonstar does say that you could mount the Rebels on stars using a hot air soldering iron:

"This base is designed for reflow soldering. For hand soldering you will need to use an appropriate solder paste with a hot air soldering iron or pencil tool. Electrical connections to the LED base can be soldered using hand soldering tools."

http://www.luxeonstar.com/rebel-star-blank-aluminum-mcpcb-base-single-led-20mm-p-395.php

Hot air soldering irons are under $100 so maybe it's something to look into?

Have you checked out http://www.ledsupply.com/endorstar.php

just basic 3-red, 3-blue and 3-green but still solid colors.

I like that 6 degree lens, I've already tried out the 25 degree lens a month ago and it just looked dimmer compared to the normal luxeon lens, though I damaged one of the led covers when I tried to use the luxeon lens.

[Jedi-Diah]

Haven't tried the 3-up rebels. I didn't want to hassle with 3 leds. I have a couple single rebels on PCBs and you just have to thermal glue them to your heatsink but they are very bright, optics are available and they run at around 3.6V at 1000mA.

The lenses I was referring to only work with single rebels mounted in the center - not the 3-up stars.


Have you checked out http://www.ledsupply.com/endorstar.php

just basic 3-red, 3-blue and 3-green but still solid colors.

I like that 6 degree lens, I've already tried out the 25 degree lens a month ago and it just looked dimmer compared to the normal luxeon lens, though I damaged one of the led covers when I tried to use the luxeon lens.

[Jedi-Diah]

Have you seen the new one they got now? It is a narrow beam lens designed for blending 3 colors (or 2):

http://www.luxeonstar.com/polymer-optics-triled-narrow-angle-colour-mixer-rebel-leds-p-429.php




http://www.luxeonstar.com/endor-star-25°-3up-lens-for-luxeon-rebel-star-leds-p-391.php

I just seen that when looking up the lumen numbers on the k2 and luxV and thought I would post it up. Iam jus tnot sure if it will work for what we use leds for.

[Ari-Jaq Xulden]

i had but if you read 1) they wont be available til the 30th of October, and 2) they are designed for a different hex shaped mcpcb that isn't offered. Also it is larger than the endor. the spec sheet shows a 30-34.7mm board instead of the 22mm endor star. look on the last page of tech data.here is the linky
(http://www.polymer-optics.co.uk/Luxeon%20Rebel%20Range.pdf)

[Ari-Jaq Xulden]

my mistake as of today the optics are available, and more by the 2nd of Nov. but it still doesn't change the fact that they wont fit in a mhs. the optic holder is 31-35.8mm. page 7 of 12 from linky

[Jedi-Diah]

That is pretty big. Well I have no intereset in it anyway. I'm only interested in the single rebels but maybe someone could use it for a custom application.


my mistake as of today the optics are available, and more by the 2nd of Nov. but it still doesn't change the fact that they wont fit in a mhs. the optic holder is 31-35.8mm. page 7 of 12 from linky

[Jedi-Diah]

Hey Obi-Dar,

Led-tech.de said they'd do it for orders of 10 or more. I gave their email to Tim and he said he'll contact them. Might as well use Rebels instead of Lux III (for green and blue). Same power requirements and way brighter. Great for MR conversions and custom applications. Maybe we'll see some in the shop in the future?



Didn't Tim say that he could get single rebels of any color mounted on stars?

[Obi-Dar Ke-Gnomie]

Cool, thanks! I hope it works out for Tim to carry them. I'd love to try them.