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Strydur
03-06-2006, 01:33 AM
I was messing around with some different material because I dont want to continue using real glass mirrors in the tips. While playing around with some different material I had tried some undersized reflective discs. Here are some comparison pics. The tip fills out pretty nice. Let me know if you currently have a blade on order and would rather I build it this way. Also let me know if it is ok to just use a "safer" reflective material instead of an actual glass mirror on your blade.

Normal mirrored tip
../scripts/tiptest1.jpg
Undersized reflective material
../scripts/tiptest2.jpg
close up
../scripts/tiptest3.jpg

Tim
The Custom Saber Shop

Protein5000
03-06-2006, 01:57 AM
Looks really good. What are these disks made out of?

Less talk, more action........

Strydur
03-06-2006, 02:09 AM
Sort of like aluminum foil

Tim
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Protein5000
03-06-2006, 03:10 AM
Ah yes, I've seen some of those - kinda flexable material with a covering.

Well it looks good, the tip doesn't just cut off and is lit.

Doing well Tim! Getting better and better.

Less talk, more action........

Devilstar2k2
03-06-2006, 03:33 AM
I like the looks of the mirrored tip much better...

IMO, it has a much 'cleaner' look, and doesn't allow the light to splay out. I'd much rather have the unlit tip, than the 'flashlight' effect.

Also, wouldn't it actually be safer for your eyes to contain all of the light from the LED? I know that when my son's MHS saber had the MRFX blade, I was always getting beamed in the eyes when we would duel. I didn't even let him have the saber when I wasn't in the room, for just that reason. But with your mirrored blades, I don't really have any worries about him trying to look down the blade.

If I ever end up re-using the MR blades for any reason (temps or whatever), I'm going to paint the tips to contain the light.

Just my 2 cents. [;)]


EDIT-

BTW, is that blue, or royal blue? The color is fantastic...

Do-Clo
03-06-2006, 07:15 AM
Tim the reflective tape looks much better. The blade just doesn't end it is rounded which makes it more realistic looking. I would say offer both choices and let everyone make up their own minds.

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xwingband
03-06-2006, 08:32 AM
The top illumination is cool on the new tip, but I'm not digging the little flares going down. That's probably only something that happens on a wall. You should offer both since the safety issue is valid.

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Nightwing
03-06-2006, 08:47 AM
<u>Please </u> offer both!!! I would really like that new blade, personally. I just don't want my blade tip unlit.

Strydur
03-06-2006, 08:47 AM
You are right xwing..you only see the flair like that when it is touching something. In that picture it is laying on the floor.
In the close up picture I am holding it in the air.

Devilstar..
It is Blue..Whenever I test something like this I am generally using my sons converted Anakin as it is usually the only completed saber around. Still havent made myself one yet.

As far as getting beemed in the eyes from the light coming out the tip. Its not bad since the light only comes out from the sides of the tip. Have you seen those kids flashlights where they project a image on the wall? This does the same thing.

Tim
The Custom Saber Shop

james3
03-06-2006, 08:52 AM
I think that is really awesome. You can count me in for the new style reflector, I am guessing that there would be enough light reflection so that there is not the same problem that Devilstar2k2 was referring to.


Question answered....I'LL TAKE IT[:D]

Nightwing
03-06-2006, 08:53 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by StrydurAs far as getting beemed in the eyes from the light coming out the tip. Its not bad since the light only comes out from the sides of the tip. Have you seen those kids flashlights where they project a image on the wall? This does the same thing.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Wait... what? Um, so is the tip lit up, or not? I just don't want my saber to have a black tip on the end while I'm dueling.

james3
03-06-2006, 08:58 AM
Nightwing it looks like the tip is still lit to me in the last pic. I love that the tip is lit to so I guess that's the pic I zoned in on

WeirdoTransvestite
03-06-2006, 09:05 AM
To clarify this, maybe you should post a tip down picture view.

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Tiberius172
03-06-2006, 09:21 AM
Tim, kinda a pain in the butt, crzy suggestion here...What if you cored out the tip semi-circle with a larg drill bit, say 1/2" - 3/4", I have no idea what might be optimal. This would give you basically a very small bowl. Then spray the inside surface with a semi transparent reflective paint that would diffuse the light shining into it but allow the tip to hold a portion of the light causing the tip to glow. Onto the flat side of this bowl you would glue the reflective tape but it ould have a center hole or small circular hole pattern in it to allow a small portion of the light to enter the tip but most would still be refected back down the tube.

Kinda nuts I know but I'm just brainstorming here. See diagram below...

Tiberius

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Devilstar2k2
03-06-2006, 09:22 AM
Okay... I guess its only me... lol...

But if you do stop offering the mirrored ones, let me know before hand so I can snag a few.


Thanks,

Shawn

Strydur
03-06-2006, 09:29 AM
You can only see what I would consider somewhat bright light at a direct 45 degree angle. The reason for this is the light comes up and wraps over the tip because of the way it is shaped and the fact that it magnifies. Hard to explain..I could probably even use a larger piece of material and still light up the tip with less light escaping out the sides.

On a side note..drilling a hole in a mirror or scraping off some of the backing in the center does NOT work. All it does is make a beam come shooting out the end. Since we focus all of the light the brightest part is at the center of the tip thats why this does not work.

tip view unlighted
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direct on tip view
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45 degree angle tip view
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Tim
The Custom Saber Shop

WeirdoTransvestite
03-06-2006, 09:32 AM
Is it weird that I actually squinted on that last picture?

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Nightwing
03-06-2006, 10:47 AM
Aaaaahhhh.... I see now.
That still looks really nice. I'll definitely get that blade if you offer it. (literally, I'm just sitting here with my money, waiting 'til it's put up)

Strydur
03-06-2006, 10:56 AM
If you want to order one this way..just order the regular one and mention that you want the one I showed on the boards. That is until I actually add it as an option.

If you have a blade on order and would like it this way or the normal way but without a actual glass mirror please e-mail me or post on here with your order number. I will be making all of the current order of blades today or tomorrow so let me know asap. These things are much easier to build in bulk thats why I post the 2 week rule on anything I have to build.

Tim
The Custom Saber Shop

tetmatek
03-06-2006, 09:53 PM
i think i am having a flash back. Seen this before
http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/sabers/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=230&whichpage=3

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3213/sig35jo.jpg

Strydur
03-06-2006, 10:35 PM
I realize many different methods where tried in that thread but for me it has to be something non labor intensive. And since I found one that I thought worked pretty good I figured I would offer it as a choice. That and since I own the joint I can make as many threads as I want[:p][8D]

Tim
The Custom Saber Shop

Strydur
03-07-2006, 09:09 AM
Tiberius..your idea might work great..but I cant offer something that would involve that much time to make.

Tim
The Custom Saber Shop

Reaper
03-07-2006, 11:40 AM
I do like the look of the lit up tip, but I was just wondering what would happen if you used a mirror w/ a drilled hole in the middle, which would deflect most of the light back, but then put the flexible piece in the tip. That way, the tip would still have light in it, just not as much, possibly not making as big of a flare.
Either way, keep up the good work. I think both are great.

By the way, is there any danger of the mirror breaking in the blade?

xwingband
03-07-2006, 11:46 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Reaper

I do like the look of the lit up tip, but I was just wondering what would happen if you used a mirror w/ a drilled hole in the middle, which would deflect most of the light back, but then put the flexible piece in the tip. That way, the tip would still have light in it, just not as much, possibly not making as big of a flare.
Either way, keep up the good work. I think both are great.

By the way, is there any danger of the mirror breaking in the blade?
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Welcome![:D]

But umm... look at Tiberius's pic. That's basically what he said.

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desertscorpion
03-07-2006, 12:43 PM
I like the new tip, too, and that's what I'll be ordering in the future. [:)]

Reaper
03-07-2006, 04:45 PM
Dang, you're absolutely right. Sorry bout that. Good form, Tiberius

deepisland
03-09-2006, 06:44 AM
That looks great. I just e-mailed you to see if you can send me that one.

Tiberius172
03-09-2006, 09:55 AM
Tim,

I don't know if you've ever run across reflective paper before but it's interesting stuff. The sheet I have, I pulled of the bottom of an old Hitachi Printer I believe. (Don't ask, I'm always looking for cheaper ways to build stuff) Anyway, It's nothing more than a sheet of paper coated with a highly reflective coating. Something like this might make for some interesting experiments in light reflection in your tips and might be an easy way to test out the sketch I did earlier. ???? I'll cut this sheet and send half to you if you're at all interested.

Tiberius

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Powered Convoy
03-09-2006, 08:54 PM
I prefer the new reflective material. Very nice.

Randy

UltraSWG
03-10-2006, 10:34 AM
If you don't want to keep using glass mirrors, you could always use acrylic mirrors.

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Derthh_Mawlz
03-17-2006, 01:57 PM
I just now noticed when I put my blade together today that there is no light coming out the tip. Thought it was weird, but better than being blinded....

Kyp Durron
03-18-2006, 09:47 AM
I noticed in the first pics in this thread that the blades are very evenly lit. It doesn't seem to have the dimness in the upper section like I have seen many times. Do all your blades look this good?

xwingband
03-18-2006, 10:34 AM
Yeah, that's what happens when you have a proper mirror. It's faded but evenly at the top.

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maxrox
03-26-2006, 08:29 AM
hey tim how do youpost pics

xwingband
03-26-2006, 09:08 AM
Read the FAQ. It's the third one and by far the most asked question.[:p]

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