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Dark Helmet
05-09-2008, 08:46 PM
ok, it may not be "tech" but I just got the new dremel multi-vise, it's a bench mount vise and it will hold your dremel at any angle you want. this thing feels MUCH more solid than the normal dremel add-ons I'm used to ( the workstation is flimsy as hell as a drill press). I picked this up for $35 at HD, I'm not sure how new this product is but it's a new item in my local hardware stores. but to put it simple, this thing rocks! it's friggin' solid as a rock and easily moved to any table top.

xl97
05-09-2008, 09:38 PM
link?..I dont think Ive seen it yet either..

I love getting new tools.. makes me want to do more projects in life! LOL

How much was it? Do you have room? a garage or something?

If so I highly recommend getting some of these..

not very expensive if you look around:

some sanders/grinders:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=2485

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=97055

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93981

I have the last one.. I do all my graphlex style covers with it.. and many other finishing/sanding stuff (leveling..etc)

got it for like $25 bucks

I got this too:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=38119

was on sale for $35 or $40 really is awesome.. and helps a TON

I also got this on sale at a Home Depot for about $30
http://www.amazon.com/Delta-BS100-Shopmaster-9-Inch-Bench/dp/B00006JZZT

all of these together have helped me do alot fo home DIY stuff.. and for sabers.. it has come in VERY handy..

coupled with various drill bits, drilling & self tapping drill bits.. tons of emery/sand paper and ahand drill there would be much you cant do.. (except lathe.mill your own metal stock) :)

DARTH KALEL
05-10-2008, 05:37 PM
yeah I got that multi vise a few months ago when it first hit HD. It works great I had toy with it a bit to do everything right but now it works great and makes saber building so much easier, especially when cutting sink tubes lol

Ram21
05-11-2008, 09:22 PM
Saw your post on this dremel vise and I went out and bought it. This thing is awesome! Really a good deal for me since I live in an apartment with no access to a garage and a workbench. Fits perfectly on a table and is very secure. I did some more filing with it on my saber today.

Link to the dremel site with a description. I can't find it on HomeDepot website. But it was only $35, really good deal for a portable vise!

Dremel Multi-Vise (http://www.dremel.com/en-us/AttachmentsAndAccessories/Pages/AttachmentsDetail.aspx?pid=2500-01)

Especially like how you can move the vise so that you have access to work in different spots without having to remove the object.

LeMoel
06-18-2008, 03:10 AM
I just bought this and this

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=93799

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=47158

xl97
06-18-2008, 05:40 AM
Man... now your talking my language.. :)

I love Harbor Freight... (right by house) ;) where I got my bandsaw (you shoud pick one up if y ou dont have one yet.. great for quick cutting round stock or what not)..


How big are the pieces you can turn in the Lathe?

Also.. did you check about the threads..etc..etc

I thought I read here about not being able to do threads unles you had a 3-axis machine..etc..etc and even then will take some time to learn...etc..etc

SO Im curious..

Im happy for your purchase.. cant wait to see what you make. :)


Do you knwo hwo to use a lathe/mill? taking some classes? having a friend teach you?

LeMoel
06-18-2008, 09:28 PM
Hey i can turn up to 2.5 inches on my lathe,but you can buy chucks that can take up 4to 4 -5 inches "around.

my bed of my lathe is 14-15 inches long, so i can turn up to q10 to 11 inches longof metal

its a really fine machine it had automatic or manuel selections, i havent tryed many threads yet but i know for a fact you can do them, most likly pretty acturatly, i just received my lathe so im a bit rusty,and havent had much time to test ti out, but what i have tested is really awesome. my mill hasnt came in yet since i live in canada but its on the way

xl97
06-18-2008, 09:33 PM
man..keep me.. I mean 'us' informed.. :)

post pics of yoru set-up too..

10-11 inches long is long enough.. :)

ti-el_terall
06-18-2008, 11:25 PM
Hey man, Im in BC too. How much was shipping to Canada?

Ambo
06-19-2008, 05:04 AM
Instead of a band saw.... I ended up buying a 14" chop saw for metal...

I bought my Lathe and Mill from Cummings... Ive been happy as hell with em....I just wish there was a school round here to get some more "formal" machining school, alas there is no tech or vocational schools around. But I have taught myself quite a bit (NOT recommended for everyone, these machines can maim and kill)

xl97
06-19-2008, 05:44 AM
Hey Ambo...

link up the machine you bought... Id be interested in what you pusrhcased..

was there a particular reason you went with what you did? testing? knew for sure that was the machine for you? a budget?

thanks

Arm on Fire
06-19-2008, 08:57 AM
This thread has derailed a bit, but I would like to echo Ambo's warning.

These machines can be deadly, even the small bench models, the minute you dont respect them they will take a finger, hand or worse.

Machining metal is somthing that is best left to people that have had years of training in the use of such equipment.

Just my opinion of course :)

xl97
06-19-2008, 09:20 AM
Thanks for the tips..

Ive been eying up some of the metal shop classes at the local community tech. school..

Is there a certain class or starting point you guys suggest?

Sorry to make ya work.. LOL

but ive toyed with it for so long.. (even before i got into saber smithing.. I am into motorcycles too) ;) and Im really at a loss at where he jump in point would be..

to get proper education of course.. :)

https://infonline.matc.edu/live-infonline/live-infonline?TOKENIDX=1459491480&SS=1&APP=ST


thi is the one I was going to enroll in:
https://infonline.matc.edu/live-infonline/live-infonline?TOKENIDX=7709984433&SS=1&APP=ST&CONSTITUENCY=WBDF

but wasnt sure if this right or not?

acerocket
06-19-2008, 10:28 AM
Regarding classes - it's hard to say where to start. It all really depends on you skill level, past metal working experience, what you want to learn and what the school says you need as a pre-requisite. I would suggest talking to the instructor at the CC and see if he might offer suggestions as to what classes to take. Perhaps you can get a phone number or email address to comunicate with him.

I am entirely self taught. I have never taken a machining class in my life but bought myself one of those 3-in-1 machines and taught myself. Though I am not without metal working experience. I started working in the family steel fabrication business when I was 13 and put in 24 years of work. Along the way, I also got a degree in Aerospace Engineering (structural analysys specialty) . So I have a fair bit of knowledge and experience when it comes to metal working.

Sure a class might have helped make the learning curve be less steep, but sometimes the only way to learn is through doing it yourself. I eventually grew out of the 3-in-1 and upgraded to CNC machines. Again, I had to teach myself everything about how to use them. And you are darn right they are dangerous machines and deserve 110% of your attention at all times.

Oh, just in case anyone is interested, here are my machines:
http://orbitalmachining.com/assets/images/100_143402.JPG

Malaki Skywalker
06-19-2008, 10:46 AM
I'm doing a 2 year coarse in Machining at College from this September, I really look forward to it... you will hopefully see some interesting sabers :cool:

xl97
06-19-2008, 11:45 AM
Thanks..

the school is near by house.. so Im hoping to take advantage of the tools/equipment there as well..

I would call myself a hobbyist.. I'll find or create a way to achieve whatever my goal is mostly..

I wrench on my bike (Harely), and have done some minor welding and metal fab...basic garage tools... bandsaw, chopsaw, table saw, bench top drill press, belt sander & grinder.. ..basic hand tools (drills, angle grinders)..etc

and I kinda just 'get along'.. :( dont have anyone to watch or learn from really..
so I cant pick up 'trick/tips' like making certian jigs or whatnot.. or how a certain tool is supposed to work...etc

can I ask 'how' you taught yourself? a mentor? a book? a website?

Im a hands on type of learner.. (I prefer)... how I learned to code..etc..

thanks

LeMoel
06-19-2008, 02:36 PM
ti-el_terall shipping to B.C. was 125$ for the Lathe US dollars. the mill was cheaper

if i were you tho depending because you are on the Island ,if you have any buddies in the U.S. or a U.S. mail box at the border or somthing they can give you the American shipping rate

or you can just cross the border two hours down and Spokane Washington has a Harbour Freight company

its up to you

xl97
06-19-2008, 03:20 PM
a doctor buddy of mine is moving to Spokane (hes actually the guy Im build a saber for since he'll be the god father of one of my boys)..

He'll be there in Aug./Sept. if your still in need. 'and' he goes to Canada to fish often as well..

ti-el_terall
06-19-2008, 03:42 PM
Thanks guys. I actually know someone who is right down in the states. so I might do that when the time comes.

LeMoel
06-19-2008, 11:41 PM
trust me it saves alot of cash, i used to live in trail bc right on the border but i moved to kamloops so i cant do that but da well.

ur doctor friend is lucky Spokane is a very nice city!