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04-04-2008, 03:00 PM
How do you mount the Lens holder and Lens to the LED. I was just trying to get it altogether and chiped my lens. :-x
So can any one help me out?


Ok so i got the lens and lens holder to sit correctly but i can not place that on the led star when it is mounted to the heat sink. The square base of the LED sits a quarter turn from the Square hole in the lens holder plus the holder will not sit the same as the led base b.c of the screws holding down the star. Do i need to notch out the holder or am i way off?

Dark Helmet
04-04-2008, 10:05 PM
no, desolder it,then re-align the holes and it will drop right into place if the star is placed correctly, you should never have to alter any of these parts...check the wiring section, there should be a pic of the hole position on the heatsink with a star mounted to it with the luxeon logo on the top... this will give you the correct position of the star. i made the same mistake once, but was just lucky all the other times, since i just solder it on and go. its a very easy fix, if it won't fit, just spin it to the next set of holes until it does.... better yet, ill see if i can find the post

EDIT: i got tired of looking, here is i pic

the luxeon logo is level as if you are reading it normally,( it's blurry in the pic, but it's the level writing on the bottom, this is a k2) this is how the wire holes and screws should line up, btw, if you chipped the edge of your lens, you may be fine,center or the underside is a problem, but if you chipped the lens holder, the blade holder may push it back together for you when you have it fully threaded.. i wouldn't give it too many worries unless you see strange streaks of light along your blade, hell, managed to burn out my new led today,but as long as the cheap parts break, I can live with that.

and you say you're dumb, i had to edit my reply a bunch of times to get the grammar correct so it's easy to understand, and I'm still not sure i worded it well enough, if you still have problems just reply so this post comes back to the top, I'm happy to help, as most of us are.

04-05-2008, 07:57 AM
i can get the holes onthe heatsink and the star to line up correctly. can u put a pic of the lens holder on the star connected to the heat sink. thats whats throwing me.

Dark Helmet
04-05-2008, 10:52 AM
it's a bit blurry, but this is the best i can do with my junk camera

04-06-2008, 10:15 AM
so did u have to make he notch bigger for it to fit over the solder points and the screw or did your fit over both already? Bc mine deffinatly doesnt

Arm on Fire
04-06-2008, 10:53 AM
Yeah, I had to "alter" the lens holder on my sabers to fit over the solder points, I am not a master solderer so i tend to glob everything.

Dark Helmet
04-06-2008, 12:45 PM
so far I haven't needed to alter any lens holders, but you may also want to make sure you have the correct holder, if the open area in the bottom, where the led fits through, is round with 2 sqare openings on either side it's for a lux III/V. if it's wide open with just the 4 "legs" it's for a k2. same goes for the led, if it's round its lux III/V, square is a k2.
in this pic the luxIII/v is on the left, k2 on the right

as far a soldering the wires to the star, i like to mount the star, then place the soldering iron on the stand with the tip (i use a flat tip) pointing toward me. then i hold the wire on the solder pad and push it against the tip until the solder melts.when i pull it away the only height added is the wire itself.i also do this when i join 2 wires together since i can see everything better.

04-06-2008, 01:58 PM
I ordered the K2 kit. the lens holder looks like this one


Dark Helmet
04-06-2008, 04:30 PM
that's def the right one, mine is a bit different, maybe that's why i haven't had any problems...if it turns out you have to mod it, just be careful putting on the blade holder, if the lens/holder are too high it could break them.
maybe try this, remove the star from the heatsink and wires to see if the holder will fit. if not you will have to modify it a bit.

04-06-2008, 05:31 PM
Yea i ended up using my razor knife. I cut it down to fit, now it fits just fine. but i must say it was a P in the A

I realy appreciate your Help.

04-06-2008, 09:34 PM
To chime in here, it's true that (for the mostpart):

* You must choose specific + & - leads on the LED star in order to get the right alignment

* You must align the LED onto the TCSS heatsink in a certain fashion in order to get the right alignment

* Only with the right alignment will your combination of solder points on the LED, and optics with the little clear nylon screw heads being "out of the way" will things work

It's not really a great way to explain it in words--better with visuals, but... the POINT is... you do indeed have to look & plan carefully before leaping.

04-06-2008, 09:42 PM
i did do a great deal of aligning but all attempts were in vain. By looking at the pics it seems to me that the Heat sink that has a round hole for the LED would have worked better but I used what I had.

Obi-Dar Ke-Gnomie
04-06-2008, 09:54 PM
If you're using a K2, and you got the holder with an opening that kind of looks like a Chevy logo, you have to cut away some of the plastic to make it sit properly.

04-07-2008, 09:01 AM
thats whati had to do. So for my next order would u suggest i go with the other style?

06-09-2008, 10:06 PM
Klaatu, I've had to add extra notches to my lens holders for them to seat properly over the LED. It's more common than you think.