PhotonAlterations blade [Archive] - The Custom Saber Shop Forums

suit_man

01-15-2006, 08:43 PM

has anyone else seen this saber: http://cgi.ebay.com/Graflex-lightsaber-w-sound-brighter-than-Luxeon-or-el_W0QQitemZ6597178524QQcategoryZ99971QQssPageName ZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem.
does anyone know anything about it? it is much brighter than a luxeon
and looks to be very evenly lit.i wasn't sure where to put this, so i put it here because it seems to be new technology, or at least a new idea.

i am a nerd, if you don't like it, i will cut you with my lightsaber

StrangeWings

01-15-2006, 09:18 PM

sure you could dual with it...and have all the leds go out just like a MR blade. I wouldn't buy it.

Strydur

01-15-2006, 09:29 PM

Well..I would like to see how durable it really is since it has multiple LED's in the blade.

The picture of it next to the luxeon..notice how the luxeon has no blume at all? and no glow coming off of it? wierd

Has anyone seen them post on the forums? I googled photon alterations and came up with nothing.

Tim
The Custom Saber Shop

suit_man

01-15-2006, 10:11 PM

i wasn't even considering buying it, i am almost broke because of a force fx mod i am working on. and i thought that it might have problems with breaking the lights when dueling. i just wondered how it was made and stuff, thought it might be a good way to go because it looks quite bright.

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xwingband

01-15-2006, 10:20 PM

I think it's nothing. If anything it's what Hyperdyne is already doing. A string of 1Ws wouldn't be that durable. Hah, I realize looking at the other auctions of the seller. This is the same one that claimed to pioneer luxeons... If it's so great he wouldn't be peddling it on ebay. He'd be getting capital to start a business.

Besides those pictures are fishy. The no blume on the comparison is odd and the first one smacks of being rotoscoped. It seems the flare doesn't start exactly at the base and the coloring of the carpet has me convinced it's been photoshopped.

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Wolverine

01-16-2006, 01:26 AM

Now the page doesn't come up at all, at least your link to it Suit_man....Maybe someone shut him down (ebay) http://www.hometown.aol.com/jedisithlord/images/lolhammer.gif

UltraSWG

01-16-2006, 03:22 AM

Link by item number, it works better:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6597178524

Those pics are *odd* to say the least. In one pic the saber has a flare at the base and in the other it doesn't. That Luxeon has no flare at all. I'm not going to accuse anyone of anything, but the pics are unusual and the seller doesn't explain much about the blade.

http://www.ultrasabers.com
Corbin|Strydur|Ultra
The Holy Luxeon Trinity

LAN-ED-TUL

01-16-2006, 08:29 AM

so you think its the same guy i showed a link to before and asked opinions about it?

You dont know the POWER, of the dark side...

suit_man

01-16-2006, 09:00 AM

maybe we could wait till the auction ends and then someone can e-mail the person who won and ask about it. they would be likely to tell the truth about it and not build it up to be something more than what it is.

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Protein5000

01-16-2006, 06:56 PM

This guy keeps changing his user ID, hmmmm.......

Wolverine

01-16-2006, 11:27 PM

I've been reading his feedback from his buyers, they seem pleased.
This maybe of interest, he's selling a 15mw 635nm laser MR FX Lightsaber
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6596545351&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_ReBay_Pr4_PcY_BIN_IT

He's got a butload of other Saber stuff for sale http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZphotonalterations http://members.aol.com/JEDISITHLORD/images/thinking.gif

Zinje

01-16-2006, 11:34 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Protein5000

This guy keeps changing his user ID, hmmmm.......
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Hes been doing that for the past year :P and has other accounts on ebay as well that he keeps changing also

Protein5000

01-17-2006, 02:58 AM

There's something fishy about someone always changing their ID's and who have multiple ID's. As someone said, contact the person who buys the saber and see what they think.

LAN-ED-TUL

01-17-2006, 04:42 AM

i think you guys are right, somethins just not quite kosher with this guy.

You dont know the POWER, of the dark side...

Erik

01-17-2006, 10:33 AM

It looked to me from his above and below picture that his above pic, his "LED" blade has a wave pattern in it, much like a double strand EL blade we've seen picures of here. I've never seen anyones LED saber go 2 tone like that. Also his Photon saber with a blue blade causes the carpeting underneath to show pink? How does that ever happen? Can you say doctored boys and girls....

xwingband

01-17-2006, 11:58 AM

Exactly the carpet color is a dead give away that the flare was added using a photoshop type feature. It causes over (or under, I forget) saturation of the color. It's like adding artificial lens flare. Otherwise I'd say the others it looks like a plain white LED similar to scaarmor's that he recently posted.

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scaarmor

01-17-2006, 12:17 PM

Hey! Just what are ya tryin to say X-wing! LOL[:D]. I cannot see the different colors you guys are talking about (colorblind), But even so just looking at the base of the saber you can tell its fudged with. I dont think you have to wait and talk to someone who buys one to see its quality, obviously its creator wasnt even pleased with its quality. If you have to doctor your photos to get your product to sell, its definitely not worth buying.

Cain

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xwingband

01-17-2006, 12:22 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by scaarmor

Hey! Just what are ya tryin to say X-wing! LOL[:D]. I cannot see the different colors you guys are talking about (colorblind), But even so just looking at the base of the saber you can tell its fudged with. I dont think you have to wait and talk to someone who buys one to see its quality, obviously its creator wasnt even pleased with its quality. If you have to doctor your photos to get your product to sell, its definitely not worth buying.

Cain

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No implications...[;)] Just was giving a point of comparison for why I think it looks like just a plain white LED.[:D]

Curious... do you just see it as a grayscale or do you just associate the tones that you see with what you've been taught as what each color is? Not being able to see your saber color seems a pretty bum deal to me...[:(]

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Jedi Ranger

01-17-2006, 01:48 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">...or do you just associate the tones that you see with what you've been taught as what each color is? Not being able to see your saber color seems a pretty bum deal to me...[:(]
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I'm (largely) partially colourblind also, and that's pretty much what I have learned to do. And lots of lucky guessing.

Yeah, it sucks.

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scaarmor

01-17-2006, 01:56 PM

"JUST -a plain white LED", oh I see how it is, thats it X-wing I'm comin for ya. But since I cant afford the gas to travel, I'll be shipping myself UPS. And since I cant afford the 3 day shipping I'll have to ship myself 5-7 day which means I will be there in about two weeks. And since they beat the crap out of their boxes and thats a long time without food- I want food and water when I get there-then we'll start the a@# whippins!LOL-just kidding[:D][:D][:D]!

As for my colorblindness, I do not see in greyscale. I see colors its just that quite a lot of them look the same i.e.-Green/brown -blue/purple- pink/white- navy blue/black- etc.,etc. I learned very quickly in school that I had a problem. Keep in mind this was still back when instead of a helping hand you got repremanded for coloring the tree trunk green and leaves brown. Anyway, I trained myself while young to tell the colors apart by shades, at least as they appear to me. Like brown is a shade darker than green- purple than blue- pink than white. But when colors are blended together (such as the saber in question) it is hard for me to tell the color(s) apart because they gradually blend together and I cant see where the shades change.

Cain

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xwingband

01-17-2006, 02:17 PM

I man, I cracked up reading that.[:D] I'm on a college campus too so sometimes it takes a few extra days for the Campus mail system to get it to me or notify me that I have an oversize package waiting at the office. You'd be in there for quite a while![:D]

Hmmm... I never knew the word plain could elicit such a response.[:0][;)]

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Jedi Ranger

01-17-2006, 05:28 PM

Scaarmor - that's exactly what my color-blindedness is like. I sometimes even have problems with pink/grey, and red/brown. There is a certain shade of (grey) overcast clouds, that look pink to me.

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vadeblade

01-18-2006, 11:18 AM

This is a copy and paste quote from this action:

"By now you probably know all about the luxeon blades these days as we introduced this concept a few years ago."
-photonalterations

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6596633299&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fse arch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26satitle%3D6596633299%26fvi %3D1

When will Corbin or Tim lay the smackdown? [}:)]

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Cyambin

01-18-2006, 02:19 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by xwingband

I think it's nothing. If anything it's what Hyperdyne is already doing.

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Will someone please tell me what Hyperdyne is doing?

xwingband

01-18-2006, 04:58 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Cyambin

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by xwingband

I think it's nothing. If anything it's what Hyperdyne is already doing.

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Will someone please tell me what Hyperdyne is doing?
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He's using luxeons inside the blade very similar to what MR does but with the higher power luxeons. Google his business (Hyperdyne Labs, I don't want to put a link). Check out his forums for the latest news.

From the description of the orginal auction he makes it out as that is what he did too, but as you can tell we think it's a bit fishy.

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Mi Gin Gonn

01-20-2006, 10:47 PM

As far as the first thing on eBay you guys were discussing---didn't he already sell one of those? I seem to remember our good friend Corbin bidding on it. Maybe it was somebody else altogether. [?][?][?]

"Chaka, call off Dawson, will ya?!"

xwingband

01-20-2006, 11:15 PM

He sold a few normal LED sabers from viewing his record (one that came up here too), but none that were these "photon alteration" blades.

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dralderlbot

01-23-2006, 01:57 AM

Has anyone seen the sabers that are in
http://www.advanced-light.com/index.asp?id=2
that site ?
Because the claims this site makes about some sort of crystal core technology and its comparison to led light system is very iffy .
But i did find the hilt's that this person constructs to be very ornate , yet a bit odd none the less . Any ways I still wonder about the crystal core technology and it's ties to saberology technology .
Other than that I'm just not sure about its worth .

xwingband

01-23-2006, 06:29 AM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dralderlbot

Has anyone seen the sabers that are in
http://www.advanced-light.com/index.asp?id=2
that site ?
Because the claims this site makes about some sort of crystal core technology and its comparison to led light system is very iffy .
But i did find the hilt's that this person constructs to be very ornate , yet a bit odd none the less . Any ways I still wonder about the crystal core technology and it's ties to saberology technology .
Other than that I'm just not sure about its worth .
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Advance-light and saberology are working together now. They haven't merged sites yet but they are together. From what I've heard and seen from them I think they use sideglow in the hilt to tranfer the light until the opening in the emitter. They make some nice hilts but you'll be paying out the wazoo.

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dralderlbot

01-23-2006, 10:41 PM

I dont have the money to put down for one of those. But what of this crystal core technology ? Could we or possibly I try to duplicate a similiar result using LED's ? I'm still very confused because I'm not done reading through these post's and I have yet to build my first Lightsaber that doesnt consist of a child's toy one taken apart and screwed with to make it easier to wield , because you see , I have always had small hands . My next two Lightsaber's I hope to create are to be for my two brother's . More or less me showing them the options and letting them decide on their own how it will look in the end .
But still my question remains . Does this crystal core technology really work better than LED's

xwingband

01-23-2006, 11:13 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dralderlbot

I dont have the money to put down for one of those. But what of this crystal core technology ? Could we or possibly I try to duplicate a similiar result using LED's ? I'm still very confused because I'm not done reading through these post's and I have yet to build my first Lightsaber that doesnt consist of a child's toy one taken apart and screwed with to make it easier to wield , because you see , I have always had small hands . My next two Lightsaber's I hope to create are to be for my two brother's . More or less me showing them the options and letting them decide on their own how it will look in the end .
But still my question remains . Does this crystal core technology really work better than LED's
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He is using LEDs. I suspect "crystal core technology" is his fancy term for how he transfers the light from the LED to the emitter (which I mentioned before and speculate is a type of sideglow cable). His blades aren't really that special. Compare them to ultrasabers.com or the store here itself for reference.

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vadeblade

01-24-2006, 09:14 AM

As xwingband stated, it is very likely sideglow fiber optic cable is inside the polycarbonate blade.

Here is the comercial hype one supplier says about their sideglow cable -

"Utilizing a recently perfected production process called continuous casting, Sideglow solid cable can now give off brilliant color clarity and a continuous bright light transmission that was not possible in earlier solid CORE fibers. A CRYSTAL clear Teflon sleeve gives high intensity brightness along the entire length of the optic cable."

I think Saberology got their "Crystal Core" idea from the quote above.

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xwingband

01-24-2006, 09:54 AM

I've never particularly liked the tone they deal with other saber builders either. They've had problems with "accidently" using Ultra's pics. They state they're going to make themselves known to the world, revolutionize the saber world, and other pompous claims. I don't know where he's pulling the money from because as far as I've seen he doesn't sell much, but he's stopping his business to go into "R&D" and has long claimed he will be having the best sound module around. He even has consulted lawyers because he thinks he'll get big enough that Lucas will try to sue him like Parks and Lightech...[:o)]

On his blades though: That blurb certainly gives some credence to the idea that they use sideglow. I've been curious to it's uses though. I'm not sure they use it for the whole blade. I've seen the pics that have it flare a few inches from the LED which he claimed demonstarted his "light transmission" technology (sideglow?) yet I've also heard some that have seen the blades in person say that they can flex like a fencing foil.

This has me quite confused. Sideglow in the hilt makes sense to me, but the other claim has me wondering. I've heard from Corbin though that sideglow is good but the closest diameter doesn't fit well in any tube being off by a few mm which causes it to rattle in the blade.

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Jedi Ranger

01-24-2006, 10:54 AM

Hmm......I looked into trying (side-emitting) fibre-optics last summer, and the stuff I found was crazy expensive. Needless to say, I never bought any to test.

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scaarmor

01-24-2006, 12:58 PM

Hello,
I just googled some info on side emmiting fiber optics as I hadnt heard of it before. From what I gather it doesnt look as bright as LED but that might have just been the pics I saw. It also said "two standard diameter of 19.3mm & 25.5mm" unless I am reading my converion chart wrong, wouldnt that make them to thick to fit into the polyc tubes? I also saw that they need a generator to run, small it was but not near as small as it would need to be to fit in a hilt.

Edit- I just found a site selling it in 1/2" dia. so I guess you can find it thinner, but at $7.50 per foot not including the generator unit- FORGET THAT! Tim with his EL wire and Luxeon LEDs has the market cornered for brightness and affordabilty.

Cain

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vadeblade

01-24-2006, 07:28 PM

Tim's 1 inch OD polycarb tubes have an ID of 3/4 inch. Most 3/4 inch OD polycarb tubes I have seen and worked with have an ID of 5/16 inch. The closest fit I have seen for solid core side glow is 1/2 inch dia. At best, this would give 1/32 of space between the inside wall of a 3/4 polycarb tube and the fiber optic cable. This would explain the rattle.

But since we are dealing with luxeon, I figure a 1 inch OD polycarb would be prefered. That would mean a 1/8 inch of space all around the fiber optic cable and the inside wall of the polycarb tube. Plus, it would also mean a thin glowing blade.

I guess this could be fixed by using Gelu's clear film idea to fill the space between the fiber optic and the polycarb.

About the flare at the base of the blade in Saberology's pictures. Here is a picture of a Luxeon Driver designed for fiber optic use.
http://www.geocities.com/projectstm/temp/Novab2.jpg

As you can see from the picture, the sideglow fiber optic cable has flare right where it connects into the "illuminator" - that's what they call it in the fiber optic market. The illuminator is called the NovaBright and uses Luxeon 3 LEDs. It is specifically designed to give a tight interface between the cable the the illuminator thus reducing side spill of light.

For our purposes the "illuminator" would be our hilts. The interface would not be as good as the NovaBright so there will be a lot of side spill = large flare.

I'm willing to try making one. It's just gonna have to wait a few months due to high cost. One thing is for sure, I can make it for a lot less than the 90 bucks saberology is asking for.

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dralderlbot

01-25-2006, 02:13 PM

I understand the topic much more due to your explaination , thankyou .
I think that tim's price's are definitely the best when it comes to affordability and function . though I have never seen one . But I think his LED kit is exactly what Iam looking for for now . I just want something impressive and functioning , and the brightness of it can be brighter ,but it only needs to be enough to captivate the imagination of my 11 and 13 year old brother's . For me of course , Im less picky .I was'nt even thinking of having my saber being lit . simply a colored acryllic blade , because I think I would ruin it . But you never know . I just need to start .
Anyways thank you guys for elaborating on the subject for me .

Jin Ke

01-25-2006, 09:54 PM

I won a advanced light/saberology saber on ebay, and just got it Monday. I have to say that the hilt is what makes the saber. I'm really not all that impressed with my blade though. It't nice and light in weight and more of the width of a 3/4 el blade. Honestly, its not as bright as the MR FX conversion I had done from Ultra. There is really nothing inside the blade that differs from others I've seen. Just a mirror tip at the top and film around the inside. I'm not sure if there is something inside the hilt near the led to make a difference.

xwingband

02-02-2006, 09:12 AM

Would you be opposed to telling us how that blade is even remotly duelable. Hyperdyne is working on the LEDs in the blade and is keeping it all hush, hush...

P.S. if those pics aren't edited get a new camera because it's a POS[:p][;)]

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xwingband

02-14-2006, 09:38 AM

This is phosphor coatings like what they do on neon tubes to change the colors? What would be the light source? Still LEDs?

I believe I've seen that picture already somewhere...

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xwingband

02-14-2006, 04:40 PM

Interesting... all in see on cursory search is stuff on flat displas to increase brightness. This one I found quite interesting...

http://www.letfel.com/

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Mi Gin Gonn

02-14-2006, 10:13 PM

hey photon- friggin' nice obi wan saber on ebay right now! wish my tax return money wasn't going into my car...[:(]

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LAN-ED-TUL

02-14-2006, 10:26 PM

still looks too much like lukes to me. just lux converted with blue.

You dont know the POWER, of the dark side...

LAN-ED-TUL

02-16-2006, 02:08 AM

still looks like one to me in the pics. im sorry, there may be differences, but its too close in my own opinion. i really dont see much whoop dee do over it.

You dont know the POWER, of the dark side...

Protein5000

02-16-2006, 05:40 AM

I think it's damn nice.

Less talk, more action........

xhypnauticx

02-16-2006, 08:34 PM

i think its awesome also

LAN-ED-TUL

02-17-2006, 01:19 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/OBI-WAN-Episode-IV-Luxeon-FX-Lightsaber-LED-BLUE-AOTC_W0QQitemZ6605824397QQcategoryZ37887QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

still just looks like a rotj saber to me. no matter what anyone says.

You dont know the POWER, of the dark side...

photonalterations

02-17-2006, 02:37 AM

that one is not mine
this one is

lol

http://cgi.ebay.com/Custom-led-3watt-Luxeon-lightsaber-w-graflex-clamp-blue_W0QQitemZ6605020089QQcategoryZ98027QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Belive me, I do know the power of the Darkside

LAN-ED-TUL

02-17-2006, 03:56 AM

weeeelllllllllllllllll, allllllllrighty then!!
i was lookin at the wrong one. yours does loook better than that other for sure. but theres not a good clear shot showing that section between the emitter and clamp. and was i seeing right, there werent any bubbles on it either. now, that i see the right one, yes, i will say, it does look pretty good. i'd still like a better shot of that area tho. rest looks real good.

You dont know the POWER, of the dark side...

suit_man

02-17-2006, 03:38 PM

yeah, i think that saber looks good, but they pictures aren't taken from very good angles. i like to have at least one shot straight from the side of the saber.

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suit_man

02-27-2006, 09:43 PM

the guy that bought that photonalterations saber said it was great. he is selling it thought cause he needs the money. he said that the blade was everything that she said it would be. i didn't know that photonalterations was a woman. that is kinda cool though. two big innovaters (her and jedi loreen) are women. kudos to women

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xwingband

02-27-2006, 09:52 PM

photonalterations is a woman? I must have missed that memo... I thought Jedi Loreen was about the only woman in the lightsaber business.

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suit_man

02-27-2006, 10:30 PM

i didn't know that it was a woman either, but when i e-mailed that guy about the saber, he said "it is everything she said it was" i took that to mean that photon was a woman. also, congrats, xwing, on out-posting tim

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xwingband

02-27-2006, 10:36 PM

lol, Tim is busy so no suprises there. I don't think it's much of a feat or anything special... I just spend too much time on my computer.[8D]

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LAN-ED-TUL

02-28-2006, 12:01 PM

ya know, that coulda been a typo. "she" coulda been, "he".

You dont know the POWER, of the dark side...

suit_man

02-28-2006, 03:19 PM

maybe, but maybe not. i guess we won't know unless photon posts again.

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LAN-ED-TUL

03-01-2006, 02:03 AM

i guess when he or she does someone will just have to ask.

You dont know the POWER, of the dark side...

xhypnauticx

03-01-2006, 03:56 AM

i think that photon is a girl because i have ordered from her from ebay and its under the name lisa, so i guess SHE is a girl

xwingband

03-01-2006, 06:37 AM

Hmm... photon has been around for years, originally being Ionsabers, I wonder how I missed that tidbit... kudos to the lady then.[:)]

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LAN-ED-TUL

03-01-2006, 07:48 PM

it is cool the ladies are into this stuff too. my wife is slowly gettin into the star wars gig. she just made her own jedi outfit for this benefit we are doin in 3 days. and shes psyched. maybe i can get her to duel a bit, ha ha, yeah right.

You dont know the POWER, of the dark side...

Meridian

03-02-2006, 03:35 AM

Actualy Lisa takes the Orders and Her brother Anthony does the
Putting things together.

I too was curious about this so...
I had them make me one of the Graflex "pro-to-types" ...

Anyone else got one of these on here? Or any of their other Conversions?
Just curious to hear your thoughts?

Suitman what did the guy selling His say? He needed the money?

By the way the Blade is White and basically looks like an MR would if it
had white LEDs instead of Blue.

Anyway... Interesting to see what some "opinions" are on these

Seeing as useless as eBay feed back is just a load of BS I find most everyone
leaves good feedback even if they really don't feel that way.

Curious....

LAN-ED-TUL

03-02-2006, 05:16 PM

they do look cool, but as tim has said before, its a matter of whether they will really hold up to dueling.

You dont know the POWER, of the dark side...

LAN-ED-TUL

03-03-2006, 03:57 AM

ooooookkk, im goin to hide now, [:0][:0]

You dont know the POWER, of the dark side...

Strydur

03-03-2006, 01:43 PM

Amen!!

Tim
The Custom Saber Shop

Meridian

03-03-2006, 01:44 PM

PhotonAlterations I couldn't agree more
[:D] It would be nice to see an actual lightsaber type device be created.
The Cold plazma theory would be along the lines that I'd be hoping for, where
it won't actually cut through something but it would have enough density to collide with eachother and not penetrate the beam.

Difficult to do and make it safe for people aside from the possiblity of over exposure
to the type of radiation bi product of what is being used to creat it.

I do think eventually it would be touchable but you'd still beable to get a mild burn
if you held your hand on it.

I originally thought we could still use a metal pole that would be energized under the same
properties, but the pole would give initial shape as opposed to trying to contain itself.

I do hope that we will see this come about... someday.

suit_man

03-03-2006, 03:50 PM

yeah, the guy said that he just needed the money more than the saber, but he loved the way it looked

i am a nerd, if you don't like it, i will cut you with my lightsaber

xwingband

03-03-2006, 07:38 PM

The mylar inside the diffuser isn't new persay... Corbin mentioned playing with his film inside Tim's diffuser on ASAP or somewhere (it's hard to remember when I read so many places [:p]). I have yet to see the reflective base but it reminds me of whatever advance-light does. He has something that transfers the light until it gets out of the emmiter, I believe you can see it on their auctions how it flares a few inches from the LED.

Hurry and get some pics.[:p] I have mylar just sitting around.[:D]

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xwingband

03-03-2006, 09:17 PM

He didn't use mylar. He used his film which serves the same effect really. The idea advance-light used is slightly different too. It doesn't flare until after the opening in the hilt (as opposed to it flaring from the LED). The kicker is that you can still see the light in the few inches it's in the hilt, but it doesn't flare until the opening. I'm not sure what he's using but I'd bet money that it's sideglow fiber.

Since you post here I can ask this: Why can't you apply the same concept (in reverse) that you use with your laser sabers? Is see the whole problem of uneven light as because the beam is angled to some degree. If you could make a solid beam, like a spotlight, the blade length would be limited only by the power of your LED.

I say it's the reverse of what happens with your laser because that's how it makes sense to me. On the laser you diverge it from a small beam then unspread that angle to get a straight 1" beam. For LED it'd be the reverse. You converge the LED's light then spread it to 1".

Here's a quick paint job of what I mean:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b394/reelbigporter/idea.jpg

I hope you get that...[xx(]

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LAN-ED-TUL

03-04-2006, 01:57 AM

actually, i have 2 different blades with corbins film in there. one has his 3 inch wide film rolled and inserted in. that the pics of the heiland vader saber wit that blade on pg 6 in pics. now i got ahold of his dbl wrap film and its 7 inches wide. i rolled it up and its in the new 48 inch blade im using on the great saber design.

i still see the lil red light core up the blade like the single wrap film, and it seems to diffuse the lightmore evenly thru blade.

You dont know the POWER, of the dark side...

DACOTA

05-14-2006, 04:08 PM

[quote]Originally posted by LAN-ED-TUL

http://cgi.ebay.com/OBI-WAN-Episode-IV-Luxeon-FX-Lightsaber-LED-BLUE-AOTC_W0QQitemZ6605824397QQcategoryZ37887QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

yeah i think it was a rip off price.i mean its not that hard to convert a luke.its not worth $500.you know he didnt spend even half of that just to build it. no offense to the builder and converter you did a great job.

"aaah general kenobi you are a bold one."-general grievous

xwingband

05-14-2006, 06:06 PM

It's worth it to whoever bought it...

Honestly they'll kick themselves because the Obi ROTS is just around the corner.

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tetmatek

05-14-2006, 06:20 PM

I think you guys missed the out come. The guy dead beated on the deal. Easy come easy go

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xwingband

05-14-2006, 06:23 PM

Oh well it's more of an Obi stunt or V2 Luke anyway... that's a nail in the coffin to dead beat on anything on ebay.

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