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Marsupial
05-07-2007, 05:21 PM
I am in the process of removing the vintage guts from a graflex flashgut, and I encounter a problem with one component. It holds the top socket by a rivet on the left side (when holding the flashgun upward, glass eye away)

I'd like to know how others made to remove this.

you can see it on left on that pic:
http://www.geocities.com/mhtaylor67/images/graflex/mvc-037s.jpg

Strydur
05-07-2007, 07:54 PM
very carefully :D

fau-pa ramid
05-07-2007, 08:48 PM
im no expert but if you drill a tiny hole through the middle of the rivet it should come of easly. :wink:

Ryma Mara
05-07-2007, 08:58 PM
I agree with both tim and fau

Marsupial
05-07-2007, 09:03 PM
I'm trying to avoid using the dremel - if there's a "simple alternative" that is.

problem with the dremel solution is to pierce exactly where the hole is, as this will be a mounting point for the socket underneat (at least, that's how I understand?? there's like only 2 places for bolts on that tube.)

anyway, if there's no better solutions, I'll dremel it.

Ryma Mara
05-07-2007, 09:04 PM
Try a drill bit instead of a dremel

Marsupial
05-07-2007, 09:07 PM
that's what I tought. Drill bit in the dremel. Problem with the drill itself is that its heavier and more powerful.

this is another occasion where I'd like to have a drill press.

GFORCE13
05-08-2007, 01:03 AM
I have a set of micro drills that are actually made by dremel down to a 64th of an inch and should be readly availible.

scott5050
05-08-2007, 03:32 AM
A tiny drill through the center won't remove a rivet.

You need to drill a hole in the middle of the head which is the same size as the shaft of the rivet to detach the head. If you can't see the shaft then assume about 1/3 the size of the head.

Work down very gradually - that's the trick.

Barmic Rin
05-08-2007, 03:38 AM
The force? :?

Ryma Mara
05-08-2007, 07:12 AM
know anyone with a spotweld cutter?

Marsupial
05-08-2007, 08:29 AM
what is a spotweld cutter?

Ryma Mara
05-08-2007, 08:42 AM
http://www.shop.com/op/~2_Piece_Spot_Weld_Cutter_Set-prod-12192360-18332329?sourceid=3

It might work. there designed to drill out the spot welds that hold a vehicles body togeather without damaging the rest of the body so it can be reassembled.

supertrogdor
05-08-2007, 09:19 AM
Drill press + Vice + Very, Very Carefully should do the trick

Ryma Mara
05-08-2007, 09:49 AM
that would work too

Marsupial
05-08-2007, 11:25 AM
Apparently I can pry off the part with a flathead screwdriver.

Will try this evening.

(that's the main reason I asked if someone had a non-destructive way to do it before arming myself with my dremel and do some magic)

Shinsengumi
05-08-2007, 01:17 PM
Hi when I took the guts out of mine I didn't have to mess with that part at all. Not that it was easy mind you, but it didn't seem to catch on that slide switch. Is it possible that these is another part hanging up?

Marsupial
05-08-2007, 09:08 PM
The "rivet" holde the kind of slide switch on one side, and a L-shaped bar on the other. The guts sits on this L-shaped bar and is held by that rivet. Its the main usage of that rivet I guess. Since its only press-fit, maybe yours wasn't holding on there anymore.

djbordie
05-09-2007, 05:02 AM
dude simplest way!
take a small punch (or a nail or something)
hammer it in the rivet and it will move the metal just enough for you too then slip it through the loop...does make much sense but works flawlessly, then you can just smash it again after to spread out the material so it locks.
thats what i did...

Marsupial
05-09-2007, 07:47 AM
thanks djbordie.
I used the screwdriver method without a problem.