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CreativeForce
12-06-2018, 02:04 PM
Hello All,
I'm currently building a Neo Pixel with 26 gauge wire, but I'm seeing some folks post about using 24 gauge wire for their Neo Pixel builds. Am I okay with the 26?
And looking ahead, my next build will be a Graflex 2.5 with a 3-D printed chassis. The chassis manual recommends 30 gauge wire, but this seems to be too small to handle the current to drive the strips. So what's the smallest gauge wire that would run a two strip set up?
Any help is appreciated!

IINerfII
12-06-2018, 06:26 PM
Hey there! I used 26 gauge on my most recent two-strip neopixel build. I was going to use 28g but I changed my mind for the sake of security. For the Graflex. I don’t know how you’re gonna make that work. If you’re using a GOTH Knight Chassis, for example. The wiring requires some tight space, which is why the 30g or even 32g is recommended. If I remember correctly, there should only be 4 wires coming from the neopixel connector, being a joined POS (+), two NEG (-), and the DAT line, correct? It could work in the Graflex with some fiddling, good luck!

jbkuma
12-07-2018, 12:15 AM
If it is a single lead, 24awg is generally recommended as the minimum. 30awg is not sufficient, 32awg is definitely not acceptable.

I'm not sure why you would have 4 wires with the PCB still connectors. You should have either one each for +/-/data, or double up both power lines for current carrying.

Strydur
12-07-2018, 11:40 AM
I did a quick test using a power supply and a load generator. Keep in mind this is all tested with the wire we sell and could be different for the same thickness wire in a different brand. You would also get different results with longer or shorter wire, etc..

3" long 24 gauge
10A - Ok
15A - Hot
20A - Melt Casing

3" long 26 gauge
10A - Ok
15A - Melt casing
20A - Catch Fire

3" long 28 gauge
10A - Melt casing
15A - Catch Fire

CreativeForce
12-07-2018, 05:45 PM
Thanks Tim! So would you be splitting the current if you have the two leads coming off the Neo-pixel PCB? Two each for neg and pos?

Forgetful Jedi Knight
12-07-2018, 08:03 PM
Thanks Tim! So would you be splitting the current if you have the two leads coming off the Neo-pixel PCB? Two each for neg and pos?

Correct.

CreativeForce
12-08-2018, 01:53 PM
So, since I am using the Panasonic 3.7 li-ion 10 amp from TCSS, and I plan to run two wires from each the positive and negative of the hilt side neo-pixel PCB, I should be okay with 26 gauge wire as they would only be handling about 5 amps each. Is this reasoning correct?

Forgetful Jedi Knight
12-08-2018, 08:53 PM
So, since I am using the Panasonic 3.7 li-ion 10 amp from TCSS, and I plan to run two wires from each the positive and negative of the hilt side neo-pixel PCB, I should be okay with 26 gauge wire as they would only be handling about 5 amps each. Is this reasoning correct?

That is correct.

JakeSoft
12-09-2018, 09:31 AM
I did a quick test using a power supply and a load generator. Keep in mind this is all tested with the wire we sell and could be different for the same thickness wire in a different brand. You would also get different results with longer or shorter wire, etc..

3" long 24 gauge
10A - Ok
15A - Hot
20A - Melt Casing

3" long 26 gauge
10A - Ok
15A - Melt casing
20A - Catch Fire

3" long 28 gauge
10A - Melt casing
15A - Catch Fire

Thanks for doing this test. Now I see that as long as I stick to using the 10A 18650 battery that TCSS sells then I know I'll be fine in my NP build if I stick to 26 gauge or thicker since any more current will cause the battery's over-current protection to kick in before anything can fry.