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987654321a
04-03-2007, 03:24 PM
introducing...The LUXEON Rebel. it is a brand new led on the luxeon line its pretty damn small too

http://www.philipslumileds.com/newsandevents/releases/PR68.pdf

Lord Maul
04-03-2007, 03:27 PM
dang, it said 150+ lumens at full power :shock:
however, the mounting would be weird with the rectangle :?

987654321a
04-03-2007, 03:29 PM
yea but you could use a thermal glue or somethin

vortextwist
04-03-2007, 03:30 PM
someone will figure it out if they prove to be worthy :wink:

Jedi Ranger
04-03-2007, 03:38 PM
Now THESE will make tri- or even quad- luxes a much easier possibility!

987654321a
04-03-2007, 03:39 PM
yea. now all they need to make is a 20w that runs at only 20 degrees celcius. hehe

Corbin_Das
04-03-2007, 05:24 PM
Hopefully these will work with existing optics, or will come with optics of their own. No matter how bright it is, we still have to be able to direct it down a blade.


Corbin

Marsupial
04-03-2007, 07:42 PM
Being that it is a smaller emitter, I believe someone will make STAR compatible PCBs for them. I'd assume we'd be able to use similar optics.

So far its double the light for the same power, with less heat. Its also more robust to overheating.
Can't wait to see them on the market. I might have to change my leds in my current sabers. :)

987654321a
04-03-2007, 09:01 PM
good news they are already on the market.

elrond.406
04-03-2007, 09:11 PM
bad news we have to wait for someone to test them.

Marsupial
04-03-2007, 09:48 PM
good news they are already on the market.

Where do we buy them??

987654321a
04-03-2007, 10:47 PM
http://lumileds.com/products/line.cfm?lineId=19

Ryma Mara
04-04-2007, 01:05 AM
Humm they come in all colors.

This might be better than the 10Wers

Only problem. optics

nm

http://www.ledsmagazine.com/press/14995

Dregan
04-04-2007, 11:00 AM
Take a look at the illumination these are putting out, and it's not all that much more than current level (in some cases, less)

The impressive thing here is the miniscule footprint. I'm thinking you could easily replace the LED string from a MR with these, kind of like what Hyperdyne does. Of course, these are very directional... you'd have to do a front/back, or a three-sided string. It'd take a lot of juice, but it'd be a lot brighter than anything any of use have ever seen. And it'd cost a small fortune.

But definately cool, nonetheless.

987654321a
04-04-2007, 12:30 PM
Take a look at the illumination these are putting out, and it's not all that much more than current level (in some cases, less)

The impressive thing here is the miniscule footprint. I'm thinking you could easily replace the LED string from a MR with these, kind of like what Hyperdyne does. Of course, these are very directional... you'd have to do a front/back, or a three-sided string. It'd take a lot of juice, but it'd be a lot brighter than anything any of use have ever seen. And it'd cost a small fortune.

But definately cool, nonetheless.

that would make one damn bright saber blade, id rather stick to just one of these lol

supertrogdor
04-04-2007, 12:52 PM
ideally i would want to put 4 or 5 on a heatsink and get it configured kind of like DoClo's UV LED saber he did a year and a half or so ago... That would be something to try

Marsupial
04-04-2007, 01:39 PM
http://lumileds.com/products/line.cfm?lineId=19

nice product page.

where do we buy them?

supertrogdor
04-04-2007, 01:50 PM
i wonder if the variation in lumens means you can order specific bin colors, it would make sense that the lower lumen count cyan would be closer to blue and the higher more green. I suppose one would have to buy some of each to find out.

the expanded product listing has a telephone icon which indicates you should call lumileds for ordering information
N American sould call 1-888-589-3662

987654321a
04-04-2007, 04:12 PM
http://lumileds.com/products/line.cfm?lineId=19

nice product page.

where do we buy them?

http://lumileds.com/products/line.cfm?lineId=19

edit- sorry i forgot to mention where. ok you have to call them to order but its really simple. like the guy before me says call that number and order up!

Ryma Mara
04-04-2007, 08:18 PM
i wonder if the variation in lumens means you can order specific bin colors, it would make sense that the lower lumen count cyan would be closer to blue and the higher more green. I suppose one would have to buy some of each to find out.

Well look at the bin charts in the pdf file.

Its the same as with the what we use now.

A bin 6 blue is a bin 1 cyan, bin 6 cyan is a bin 1 green or something to that extent. a royal blue in a blue led is somewhere around a bn 3-4, but whats weared is that a royal blue is in a diffrent area than a regular led.

Very strange.

Corbin_Das
04-04-2007, 08:22 PM
It's true that a high bin code in one color is ALMOST identical to a low bin code of another. Not quite identical, but for instance a bin 6 cyan and a bin 1 green are really close to each other. I actually like a bin 6 green if you can find them. They're at the right wavelength that our eyes are most sensitive to.
Bin 6 cyans make for a pretty pastel green though. I really like them too.

Corbin

Novastar
04-10-2007, 03:19 PM
I just saw that a few days ago...

The point here (regardless of lumens, usage, etc.) is that as the technology improves, it's clear that a wider variety of possibilities will arise, and these can be implemented in any number of ways to create all sorts of saber configurations.

Tri-lux is a nice idea, but why not keep that number open! Could eventually be four, five, six, etc.--all depending on a lot of factors.

At some point, the ability to have a SUPER bright "flash on clash" will be available, even if you use (let's say) 2 of 6 LEDs to be the main glow... and when it is struck--flash all 6 brightly. :)

So any number of forks in the LED road are clearly in the works. How the saber community benefits as each step comes... will be forthcoming, no surprise, by Erv, Tim, Joe, Erik, Alex, etc. etc.

987654321a
04-10-2007, 07:55 PM
john, james, jack. lol anymore names? yea i agree with what you said. i personally want a quadlux. now its posible with this led.

Novastar
04-11-2007, 02:51 PM
Well, it was possible before that... but the main concerns are:

1. Hilt outer diameter... the more LEDs, the wider it has to be... who wants a 2" OD saber, lol...

2. Batteries/voltage... even these new LEDs have a fwd v of 3.15. So again, you have the concern of trying to do (let's say for example) 15 volts. That's a lot of cells, whether you use Li-Ion or not!!! :)

3. Heatsinking... more LEDs, more heat. 'Nuff said.

4. Optics... more LEDs, more complex opticals. 'Nuff said.

Still... as we are all saying--it's great to see the technology improve!