What kind of LED is this?

[deviltronix]

I received a hilt I ordered from ETSY. I immediately noticed there was no space for a standard LED heatsink.
When I asked about this they told me to use the following:

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I think I've got a workaround with a little machining I'll be able to use a standard size Heatsink (width, depth will have to be low profile)..just wondering if anyone here knows what that is?

[jbkuma]

It's something mounted on a Sinkpad, but it's impossible to say without seeing the actual LED or imprints. That plastic certainly isn't an adequate heat conductor for using a high power LED driven to it's peak.

[deviltronix]

It's something mounted on a Sinkpad, but it's impossible to say without seeing the actual LED or imprints. That plastic certainly isn't an adequate heat conductor for using a high power LED driven to it's peak.

Thanks.. yeah I don't want to use that.. just not sure what I can use. I can have the top of crystal chamber machine out to hold a standard heatsink but it will still be took long...

[PCModulus]

Looks like a cheap flashlight LED that wont put out any heat, and will give crappy light.

[deviltronix]

Looks like a cheap flashlight LED that wont put out any heat, and will give crappy light.

Looks Like I'm screwed...I got the manufacture to elaborate, this is what he told me to use (see below)
I even asked for schematic and it clearly showed space for a full, proper heatsink.
I guess If I can get the alignment issued fix, I can install a neopixel/intelliblade setup.
Really sucks, this hilt wasn't cheap. Asking to return it, but I doubt that will go anwhere (seller is in thailand)



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[PCModulus]

Looks Like I'm screwed...I got the manufacture to elaborate, this is what he told me to use (see below)
I even asked for schematic and it clearly showed space for a full, proper heatsink.
I guess If I can get the alignment issued fix, I can install a neopixel/intelliblade setup.
Really sucks, this hilt wasn't cheap. Asking to return it, but I doubt that will go anwhere (seller is in thailand)


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Oh, XML RGBW, what are you trying to use it for? You can use a heatsink for that. Not sure where you got it, i got one for $6 shipped from over there for experimenting.

[jbkuma]

That's pretty standard, not as bright as dedicated RGB channels, but decent enough. What heatsink are you trying to use? You can fit it in a 7/8" heatsink if you need to, you might have to gently fine the corners a bit, but it will fit.

[deviltronix]

Sorry, I wasnt specific enough.. LED is fine enough (my plan is RGB Tri-cree), but he is telling me to mount it with that plastic ring.. no lens, no heatsink (it won't fit, it was machined with only 5mm of space). He told me "I run mine for 10 minutes with no problem"

[deviltronix]

Oh, XML RGBW, what are you trying to use it for? You can use a heatsink for that. Not sure where you got it, i got one for $6 shipped from over there for experimenting.

My saber was machined to be only able to run a disk with no heatsink or lens...5mm of space..I want to run a standard tri-cree with heatsink...plus the hole is only 12mm so part of the led will be cut off.

[jbkuma]

Can you share a photo of the inside of the blade socket?

[deviltronix]

Here you go...I hope I'm wrong (it usually works on my favor when I am).
I included a side cutaway view with measurement from calipers. Granted, I've only wired up 3 sabers but I've never had an issue with not being able to fit a heatsink.
Hoping you guys see something I am missing..If not I could always do a neopixel...

BTW, In first picture I removed the top of the crystal chamber to fit the led in there..
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[jbkuma]

It might not be ideal, but if you mounted a tri Cree on on a heatsink with a center hole and glued the lens to the LED you could mount the LED in the blade socket. The inserted blade would surround the LED & lens, so the back of the blade would need to be open and the diffusion material would need to be glued down about an inch into the blade. You could also do the same thing with a 7/8" heatsink module, but you'd additionally need to sand down the inside of the end of the blade so it would fit over the module. You would definitely want to plug up the blade with some tack cloth to keep the dust out and clean it very carefully. Lastly, you could just make a pixel blade. You'd need to find and adapt a connector that fit in that 12mm hole, but they do exist.

[deviltronix]

It might not be ideal, but if you mounted a tri Cree on on a heatsink with a center hole and glued the lens to the LED you could mount the LED in the blade socket. The inserted blade would surround the LED & lens, so the back of the blade would need to be open and the diffusion material would need to be glued down about an inch into the blade. You could also do the same thing with a 7/8" heatsink module, but you'd additionally need to sand down the inside of the end of the blade so it would fit over the module. You would definitely want to plug up the blade with some tack cloth to keep the dust out and clean it very carefully. Lastly, you could just make a pixel blade. You'd need to find and adapt a connector that fit in that 12mm hole, but they do exist.

You are very kind for these suggestions, thank You!! If I keep it, I'll probably go the pixel blade route

BTW, got this picture from another user with same hilt..their hole is 25mm/1" (with a lip seperating blade socket and led socket) so they definitly goofed on miine16461

[deviltronix]

. You'd need to find and adapt a connector that fit in that 12mm hole, but they do exist.

Could you point me in the right direction for this? Thanks

[jbkuma]

I just measured, the black plastic side of a gx-16 aviation connector should fit in the hilt side, and a the metal part would fit in the blade side. You should be able to find these with a minimal effort.

[PCModulus]

Here you go...I hope I'm wrong (it usually works on my favor when I am).
I included a side cutaway view with measurement from calipers. Granted, I've only wired up 3 sabers but I've never had an issue with not being able to fit a heatsink.
Hoping you guys see something I am missing..If not I could always do a neopixel...

BTW, In first picture I removed the top of the crystal chamber to fit the led in there..
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You can easily use that 5mm of space for a flat disc as a heat sink to mount the LED on, what heat it doesnt soak up will be transferred to the hilt. 12mm will not cut any of the light off, but you may want to trim the lens somehow to fit inside the 12mm hollow part so you can still focus it.

[deviltronix]

You can easily use that 5mm of space for a flat disc as a heat sink to mount the LED on, what heat it doesnt soak up will be transferred to the hilt. 12mm will not cut any of the light off, but you may want to trim the lens somehow to fit inside the 12mm hollow part so you can still focus it.

Thanks for your input! I may try this...Should I try to keep the lens as close to the led as possible or does it not matter?
I also may try the Luke ROTJ saber method where they use 7/8ths heatsink and heatsink is basically inside the base of blade when its installed.

[PCModulus]

Thanks for your input! I may try this...Should I try to keep the lens as close to the led as possible or does it not matter?
I also may try the Luke ROTJ saber method where they use 7/8ths heatsink and heatsink is basically inside the base of blade when its installed.

The lens needs to be on top of it to focus right, just like glasses on your face :)

[deviltronix]

I just measured, the black plastic side of a gx-16 aviation connector should fit in the hilt side, and a the metal part would fit in the blade side. You should be able to find these with a minimal effort.

Thank You!!!