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jsummit
03-07-2017, 09:59 AM
Hello All,

I'm sure most of you are familiar with the photon blade collaboration by TCSS and Vader's Vault. I haven't started my journey in the science of light yet, but I'm sure many of you out there have. I love the photon green, but like the ability to change blade color on the fly! Any chance a white photon blade could be made to work with an RGB LED setup? I'm sure everyone would love the possibility of a super bright blade, even in a well lit room or outdoors daytime that can change color!

jsummit
03-07-2017, 10:20 AM
If not a white, maybe a pale blue or yellow? Just trying to think of something that would be super bright in various color arrangements.

Forgetful Jedi Knight
03-07-2017, 10:23 AM
If not a white, maybe a pale blue or yellow? Just trying to think of something that would be super bright in various color arrangements.

The fact that there hasn't been any further offerings, means that all of the further "research" that has been done hasn't yielded anything "worthwhile" to date.

jsummit
03-07-2017, 10:46 AM
Currently chatting with Tim about this.

jsummit
03-07-2017, 10:47 AM
Does anyone have any recommended books on this? Any online links? I would love to help TCSS and VV in the process! Currently checking my local library!

minorhero
03-07-2017, 07:24 PM
The photon blade works because there is a florescent material that is reactive to blue light. By its nature it can not change its color and be brighter then a regular blade.

I am expirementing right now with UV light and UV reactive paint. I am getting some interesting results but not sure if it will end up being brighter then a regular blade yet. If it does work then this would provide color changing blades by literally changing the blade (to one coated in a different uv reactive paint) if it doesn't work it will be dimmer then a regular blade. Still trying to get the coating to work right.

Silver Serpent
03-07-2017, 08:12 PM
You'd need multiple compounds, each able to produce light, each having a differing way of activating their luminescence, and they'd all need to be compatible with the blade material.

Chemical X that produces Red when exposed to wavelength A.
Chemical Y that produces Green when exposed to wavelength B.
Chemical Z that produces Blue when exposed to wavelength C.

To the best of my knowledge, this combination has not been invented. We have a number of chemicals that produce light when exposed to blue wavelengths (phosphorescents like Fluoroscein), but they all activate at the same time or nearly so.

If you want a bright RGB blade that's visible in the daytime, you'll need a very densely packed string blade with proper light dispersion.

jsummit
03-08-2017, 10:31 AM
Thanks for all your input so far! Some great theories to ponder! Yeah, not a fan of string blades. Just asking for the impossible I guess. Or is it? There may still be another option to consider. I posted in another thread regarding the new Nth Light technology. Here's a video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3Y6W8MYu6w

Tim said he checked this out and wasn't impressed with the brightness. I wonder though if it could be made better/brighter and be able to change color? I have an idea, but have to draw it out. Be right back!

jbkuma
03-08-2017, 10:36 AM
The nice thing about the pigments that react to blue light is they won't damage your eyes.

jsummit
03-08-2017, 10:50 AM
Okay, here's the drawing of the idea I had regarding the Nth Light Tech.

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jsummit
03-08-2017, 10:56 AM
Better yet (possibly). If they can print sheets, could they print solid rods? A Red rod, Green rod, and Blue rod as the center core!

jsummit
03-08-2017, 12:26 PM
Does anyone know where to find the original thread of the talks about the photo-reactive materials?

minorhero
03-09-2017, 08:00 AM
I believe its somewhere over on the saber fx forum.

There are a lot of issues with the nth light leds. One is that they are thirsty suckers and if you wanted to run even one sheet you apparently need more juice then what you can get out of two 18650 which is right now essentially the normal battery configuration. If you wanted to be able to light up 3 sheets at the same time you would need a hilt that is probably as big around as car battery to run it properly.

Cern
03-17-2017, 05:09 PM
the issue with this, and i could be very wrong, is that the two sheets that are not reactive to the color being pumped through the blade would dull the light. Kind of like shining a red LED through a blue colored blade. It would still light up but most of the light "energy" would be lost