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virus692
02-18-2007, 05:24 PM
Take a look at these. I would like to hear thoughts.
http://www.mouser.com/lamina/

xwingband
02-18-2007, 07:36 PM
They'd be fine...

They're higher voltage than the Prolight RGB. Also different optics, than the normal ones.

Other than not having to order from england or ebay I don't see too much of a reason to try those yet.

Firebird21
02-18-2007, 07:41 PM
Other than not having to order from england or ebay I don't see too much of a reason to try those yet.


$90 for one?!

xwingband
02-18-2007, 07:44 PM
The $90 one is a 39 LED cluster. The RGB is at the top. Still around $30. That's still more than a Prolight RGB.

Marsupial
02-19-2007, 07:37 AM
I can't wait to have a tripledriver and try those.

JediHilt
02-19-2007, 09:05 AM
Or you can just wait untill Bodi finishes his brighter than sunlight project. :D In my opinion I think either Bodi is busy out of his mind with work and a scratch built prototype is time very consuming or he found out his technology doesn't work and he is too embarrased to tell us after how confident he was that it would work and is afraid guys like James will as they say throw him in the bushes.

acerocket
02-19-2007, 02:00 PM
Did you get a gander at the specs? 3 different voltages are required (4.5V for the red, 6.7V for the green, and 7.6 for the blue). You would probably need to run at least 8.4V (7 AA cells) and seperate resistors for each lead to the LED. The red resistor is going to waste a lot of power as heat. It may be possible to tap seperate leads off the pack to keep the voltage near the desired operating number and keep the resistor value low. It appears the maximum amperage is 450 mA so you can't overdrive them that much. All that and you are only going to get 120 lumens max when all three colors are on (120 lumens red+green+blue=white, 105 lumens red+green=yellow, 57 red+blue=purple, and 78 lumens green+blue=cyan). Then you will need to use their optics and, although the pdf mentions Fraen optics, I have never actually seen one of the Lamina optics to give you an opinion of it. Personally, I wouldn't bother with it as I think it would be more trouble than it's worth. But the decision is yours and if you want to use one, then by all means do.

JediHilt
02-19-2007, 05:48 PM
I think this LED blows the one you found out of orbit :lol:.

http://randomsabers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2252

xwingband
02-19-2007, 06:00 PM
We talked a bit about that at TFN...

I assume he wants this for the RGB quality. Not pure lumen count (in white only as far as we know too).

Marsupial
02-19-2007, 09:00 PM
personally, I don't think a RGB setup is a good deal when it comes to lumens output. I'd get this or a triple luxeon setup for the sake of versatility - changing the blade coloration in realtime.

Better even, having a custom saber that delivers color effects depending on saber movement. Cooooool.

As Ace mentionned, this particular RGB setup isn't the best out - R, G and B aren't similar in any way, might it be input current/voltage or output luminescence. Therefore, its a harder time to use then 3 luxeons (that aren't identical, but more similar IMHO)

anyway, with this setup on the market, we can only assume there's going to be more and more RBG high luminescence to come.

JediHilt
02-20-2007, 09:41 AM
I don't know if you saw random sabers on the adress I posted and turned your nose up at it ("cough-typical")but the LED they talk about on that page is supose to be 500 lumens!! and sets the world record for lumens per watt.

acerocket
02-20-2007, 10:09 AM
Yeah, I posted a link to the full article on TFN like a month ago. If you read the article it appears that it they will be coming soon in products but that probably translates into about a year before we can expect to get our hands on them. According to the article, they are putting out almost 8.5 watts of power. The RGB tri-lux I have puts out about 11.5 watts when running full power so a single one of those new LEDs would be a lot cooler than a triple setup. Power is going to be a problem also. Running a 2A is going to mean a lot of batteries to get your amps up. I like the idea of using it at a lower amperage - say 1 amp- which may give about 300 lumens while only putting out about 4 watts. Put that in a tri-lux for 900 lumens and 12 watts. Run that with a filter if you like and you will still have a bright blade.

xwingband
02-20-2007, 12:12 PM
I don't know if you saw random sabers on the adress I posted and turned your nose up at it ("cough-typical")but the LED they talk about on that page is supose to be 500 lumens!! and sets the world record for lumens per watt.

Okay, I'll play ball...

You want to talk typical. I don't think you read the topic carefully. I posted there before you even posted it here.

If you want to post snide remarks make sure you aren't the dummy first. If you weren't refering to me... Marsupial made an on topic post... OMG! How odd :roll:

I haven't cared for your tone lately. Respect the other posters (this can go across the board to anyone).

JediHilt
02-21-2007, 10:19 AM
The ("cough-typical") was because allot of you believe randon sabers is like some kind of arch enemy that were supose to hate them like there the Germans or something and you have the same lousy attitude toward Parks too you don't seem to be capable of being able to apreciate good piece of machine work if I showed you a saber you have never seen before and you really liked it and turned around and said Parks or random made it you would turn around and say you didn't like it I'll bet you cringe every time you see someone post a picture of a parks or random saber on the gallery.

LordArgyll
02-21-2007, 01:16 PM
You'll get that attitude because this is a forum dedicated to saber building rather than buying and because it's also a bit rude to come onto a privately-operated forum and talk about other vendors. It's one thing to talk about outside vendors selling components TCSS doesn't yet offer, it's another to pimp what is more or less a competing product. Parks and randomsabers have some nice stuff, but it doesn't bear discussion on the TCSS forums.

You also got blown off the way you did because you're talking about an ultra-bright white LED in a thread talking an RGB engine. That's Red, Green, and Blue in case you forgot. Colors, man.

And this is way off topic so i'm done.

Ryma Mara
02-21-2007, 01:50 PM
Everytime I try to go to theforce.net 's boards to see whats so great about it I keep getting an error thing.

xwingband
02-21-2007, 04:40 PM
The ("cough-typical") was because allot of you believe randon sabers is like some kind of arch enemy that were supose to hate them like there the Germans or something and you have the same lousy attitude toward Parks too you don't seem to be capable of being able to apreciate good piece of machine work if I showed you a saber you have never seen before and you really liked it and turned around and said Parks or random made it you would turn around and say you didn't like it I'll bet you cringe every time you see someone post a picture of a parks or random saber on the gallery.

Our problem is not with the saber itself. There are RS and Parks sabers I can appreciate. Besides that this is attached to Tim's forum and is meant to showcase his products...

YOU did not make the saber. More than a store's forum I view this as a place for learning the construction of sabers. It's the same reason Ultra's stuff isn't praised as much. Anyone can send an e-mail, pay some money and get one.

Before you jump to the conclusion that I hate RS and Parks you must understand. I own a Parks saber (in the gallery to boot)... in fact I have another one on the way. I have also purchased from RS. I have no problem with them, but if you expect a personal pat on the back for showing one off... you won't get nearly as much for saying you made it yourself.

If you want to make snide remarks. PM them... any off topic posts from now will be deleted.