3D files

[Remulos]

Hi everyone,

Is there a respository of CAD files for any of the MHS parts which is shared so that people can get a 3D render? I've seen on the store that this is a service which you can pay for but is it ok to do it yourself if you are able? The MHS builder is great but it doesnt include the Trim Rings or any grooves I want to add on the lathe. There are some amazing 3D renders on the Forum, I just want to know if the files can be shared.

Thanks,
Remulos

[Thalan the Exiled]

I have rendered most of the MHS parts for my personal use. Some of them are not exact since the exact deminsions of them are not available for good reason. But with some work you can use 123D from autodesk to render just about any part you want. And it is fairly easy to learn to use. Only took me about 20 min of playing arou d.

[Remulos]

Would you be willing to share the parts files? Don't worry if not, I just want to minimise the time I have to spend on my awful laptop doing detail work. Again, it's completely fine if not.

[Drawcut]

I have a few parts modeled in Solidworks 2012. Just outside features, no threads or IDs so no real way anyone could actually machine parts from them. And many of the outside features are just an eyeball guess ;). Check out this thread for what I've done:

http://forums.thecustomsabershop.com/showthread.php?18469-First-build-questions-and-opinions-needed

I'll be happy to share models for personal use (renders). Solidworks can export to most generic files types; .STEP or .IGES are the most common generics. Just let me know what you need. If Thalan can get you his 123D models that would probably be easiest since 123D is a free to use program and Solidworks is pretty costly. But if I can help, let me know.

PS: If Tim or any Mods have any issues with this, just say the word. Like I said above: I don't think my models are nearly complete enough to let anyone knock off TCSS's work.

[Forgetful Jedi Knight]

Well, I am going to say this... Tim was offering 3D CAD services of potential hilts at one point in time.

I don't currently know what the status is, but with everything else going on I can only guess.

I personally won't discourage anything, unless Tim thinks it will interfere with his business.

[Thalan the Exiled]

I will send them to him but I don't want tto do anything to undermine Tim. So if anyone has a way to ask him please do. The files I have are not exact since the exact specs are not given. They are very close replications from the measurments/specs I have been able to come up with. But they do look darn good.

[Forgetful Jedi Knight]

I will send them to him but I don't want tto do anything to undermine Tim. So if anyone has a way to ask him please do. The files I have are not exact since the exact specs are not given. They are very close replications from the measurments/specs I have been able to come up with. But they do look darn good.

"Close Enough" should be good enough for making a 3D model idea of a saber.

[Thalan the Exiled]

I just need Remulos to message me an email address I can send them to.

[Forgetful Jedi Knight]

I just need Remulos to message me an email address I can send them to.
He may not be able to right away. He has to meet a post count and a length of time as a member before his ability to PM becomes active.

[Thalan the Exiled]

Oh didn't realise he was that new

here is a link to download it from my dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/nmu14d9kyr4ehvn/3D%20MHS%20Parts.zip?dl=0&s=so

If you have any specific parts you want rendered let me know and i will see what i can do

[Remulos]

Hi Thalan,

I did receive your message but as Forgetful Jedi Knight said, I couldn't reply so I replied to your email address (I hope that's ok, it was on the email I got).

Thanks for sharing the Dropbox link! I will have a look when I get home and I will share the results, hopefully my saber will look awesome!

Forgetful Jedi Knight, I completely understand, I don't want to tread on anybodies toes. I have downloaded the Dropbox file, if you want to edit Thalan's post so the models are not shared further I would understand. I promise it's purely for visualisation purposes, if I had wanted a 3D printed saber I'd have had one years ago. Nothing but cold, hard metal will cut it :)

[Remulos]

I have a few parts modeled in Solidworks 2012. Just outside features, no threads or IDs so no real way anyone could actually machine parts from them. And many of the outside features are just an eyeball guess ;). Check out this thread for what I've done:

http://forums.thecustomsabershop.com/showthread.php?18469-First-build-questions-and-opinions-needed

I'll be happy to share models for personal use (renders). Solidworks can export to most generic files types; .STEP or .IGES are the most common generics. Just let me know what you need. If Thalan can get you his 123D models that would probably be easiest since 123D is a free to use program and Solidworks is pretty costly. But if I can help, let me know.

PS: If Tim or any Mods have any issues with this, just say the word. Like I said above: I don't think my models are nearly complete enough to let anyone knock off TCSS's work.

Those renders are gorgeous! Nice saber too! I'd love to take a look at those .STEP files if you're happy to share. I know I can't message yet but can other people see my email address? I promise I'm not a file whore, I haven't looked yet but Thalan has suggested that his designs are not the exhaustive list so if I have both yours and his I can import all of them to Autodesk Inventor through some wizards trickery and have a more complete library.

[Thalan the Exiled]

As I said if there are specific parts you are lookinf at using I can render them and get them to you if they weren't in what I gave already. It would give me a reason to add more to my list. And yes Solidworks stuff looks amazing. I would love to get my hands on that software. But alas it isn't cheap

[Remulos]

Well my experience with Autodesk Inventor is that I got a free 3-year subscription from their website as a Student whilst on my home network and using my gmail address. Read into that what you will.

Would it be possible for you to make a Trim Ring (1 and/or 3) and the Extension Blank Style 3? From what I've read on the forum, the trim rings are 3 mm wide and (I think) 1.6" OD, the same OD as the blank extension style 3. For the other parts I have just used your 3" female extension and pushed/pulled the top face. I'm not worried about the internal view so it doesn't matter that I will actually be using the Extension Blank Style 2 which has a smaller ID.

Thank you!

EDIT: Actually, I just realised that I can push and pull the outward faces as well so I think I should be able to make roughly these parts myself.

[Askew Wai]

From my experience with Shapeways it is possible to design your own trim rings and get it right first time, but 3D printing them is significantly more expensive than ordering from TCSS. 4x-8x for rhodium-coated brass (cheapest shiny silver option) depending on where you ship to, assuming you're ordering other TCSS parts as well, and assuming you get your 3D print right first time. If you're going to design your own you'd best customize it a whole lot to make the price worthwhile. If TCSS has what you need (considering Tim offers modification) then it is a much cheaper solution that will work first time and is aluminium, which can be easily edited further.

[Remulos]

From my experience with Shapeways it is possible to design your own trim rings and get it right first time, but 3D printing them is significantly more expensive than ordering from TCSS. 4x-8x depending on where you ship to, assuming you're ordering other TCSS parts as well, and assuming you get your 3D print right first time. If you're going to design your own you'd best customize it a whole lot to make the price worthwhile. If TCSS has what you need (considering Tim offers modification) then it is a much cheaper solution that will work first time.

I am ordering all my parts from tcss, I'm just rendering it so I get an accurate sense of scale. None of the 3D models will be printed.

[TheDarkPhoenix]

Hey Thalan the Exiled, could you make the Gear extension and pommel style 8 please?

[Thalan the Exiled]

I will see what I can do. The gear has been giving me issues but pommel 8 shouldn't be to bad. Give me till Monday or Tuesday and I should have both.

[Remulos]

Thanks for all your help!

I've uploaded some initial renders in my pre-build thread:

http://forums.thecustomsabershop.com/showthread.php?18673-My-first-parts-list/

[Drawcut]

I will see what I can do. The gear has been giving me issues but pommel 8 shouldn't be to bad. Give me till Monday or Tuesday and I should have both.

Let me know if you can't get the gear right. I actually design gears as part of my job so I have some specialized software for modeling them. FWIW it actually looks like a spline to me because the teeth look pretty short and wide for a typical gear.

[darth_chasm]

I actually have the gear and a couple other complex shapes if you guys want them. Just let me know how to get them to you.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a228/mditomo/Screen%20Shot%202015-10-26%20at%208.35.22%20PM_zpso9dmve6l.png (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/mditomo/media/Screen%20Shot%202015-10-26%20at%208.35.22%20PM_zpso9dmve6l.png.html)

[Thalan the Exiled]

easiest way would be to upload them to dropbox or something similar then post the link to them here

[darth_chasm]

Sounds good, I'll do that tonight.

i noticed the gear and grip shown are older models with an incorrect ID. The ones I send tonight will be accurate. Do you guys want the threads too? They won't be accurate pitch etc but can help when planning internals. If so I can throw those on quickly.

[Thalan the Exiled]

I didn't put the threads on any of mine. Just seemed a bit excessive since thia was mainly for visuals. So it is up to you

[darth_chasm]

Here you go. Download (https://www.wetransfer.com/downloads/9337ab5fdb7fc38775b35a5e8ef92a2420151028003528/7044f9a73e16b8c63f038c6ad6502dec20151028003528/cd5bbd)

Link is dead as of Nov 4

EDIT: Gah, I goofed again. This should be correct for the gear. Download (http://we.tl/R6jP4ZTbJU)

[Remulos]

I've been getting back into Inventor and can make some parts if other people need them.

However, I think that FJK was quite generous when he let us share the files and Tim hasn't objected thus far but I think that this was largely down to the level of detail in the models. If we start adding accurate threads to the models then they might be misused so I propose that no files shared have accurate threading. Thoughts?

[darth_chasm]

They won't be accurate pitch etc but can help when planning internals. If so I can throw those on quickly.

Agree and I should have been more descriptive. What I have are blank cylinders and cutouts that are the the length of the threads which helps me with placement of internal components.

[Thalan the Exiled]

I agree completly. As for what Darth_Chasm does that would be easily added by the individual if they were looking to have acurate internal view.

[Forgetful Jedi Knight]

I've been getting back into Inventor and can make some parts if other people need them.

However, I think that FJK was quite generous when he let us share the files and Tim hasn't objected thus far but I think that this was largely down to the level of detail in the models. If we start adding accurate threads to the models then they might be misused so I propose that no files shared have accurate threading. Thoughts?

"Accurate threading" WILL BE A BIG NO-NO. Just simulate it, the male section is .4" and the female is .5". Tim and I have discussed this.

[Revock]

Is there any chance one of you guys can export the models to another format? I use Freecad, http://freecadweb.org/ It can import alot of file types but not the one you guys are using. Thanks

*edit* never mind, i installed 123d and am doing the export myself

[sherrycyxc]

i also want to have cad,pls...