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TorLinWaDur
12-17-2005, 09:24 PM
what are the color of the jedi class?
i should know this, but i don't.

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xwingband
12-17-2005, 09:54 PM
Huh?[?]

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TorLinWaDur
12-17-2005, 10:04 PM
green,
blue,
purple,
yellow.

what do their colors mean?

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xwingband
12-17-2005, 11:31 PM
What ever you want them to... stupid but true. Lucas never said a darn thing and admitted it was mostly for looks. In the EU there are different colors all the time so the only thing that holds true 99% of the time is evil=red.

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Jedi Ranger
12-17-2005, 11:47 PM
I think the 'theory' that certain colors mean certain things, such as a "class" of Jedi, comes from the KOTOR video games, and maybe also the Jedi Knight series games.

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StrangeWings
12-18-2005, 01:12 AM
Funny thing is I always thought the same thing about red=bad guy/girl. But in the book series I am reading right now, The Coreillian Trilogy, Luke made a saber for Leia and he made the blade red. They even call it blood red. This is the only good guy/girl that I know that used on but she does have one. If I remember correctly later she has a different one and I think that it is violet.

informalmyx
12-18-2005, 09:56 AM
sith/darkside usally use red but that is cause they dont have access to the crystal caves

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xwingband
12-18-2005, 10:13 AM
Yeah, that's why I said 99% of time. Leia has two sabers later and they never dwell on color too much.

informalmyx is right on. The red is from the method the sith use to cook up their crystals that make them red, but if I remember right it was one on the Solo twins that cooked up thers and it came out purple...

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informalmyx
12-18-2005, 11:18 AM
yeah if you read the i think the young jedi academy series talks about how the sith School ( yeah i said school) there are weapon caches of mass-produced sabers for the little darklings if they need them.

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UltraSWG
12-18-2005, 06:00 PM
Luke created his own crystal, too, and it came out green. Sith crystals are red because while they are still in the molten form the Sith reach out with the force and poor all their hatred and dark stuff into the crystal. Well, according to the EU author who stole the idea of the One Ring, that is.

Jedi Ranger
12-18-2005, 06:24 PM
Hmm..........any thoughts on the ORIGINAL question?

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xwingband
12-18-2005, 06:54 PM
The answer to ORIGINAL question is that there is none. Those are just examples to why no rule holds true. In the movies Jedi have Blue and Green yet Mace has a Purple one. On screen sith do have red blades but if you add the books even that general rule goes out.

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TorLinWaDur
12-18-2005, 11:40 PM
thats discouraging no thoughts on the color of jedi classes.
my friend told me that these are the means of color of lightsaber.

Blue - Guardian
Green - Consular
Yellow - Sentinel
Silver - Weapon Master
Purple - Watchman

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scaarmor
12-18-2005, 11:55 PM
I believe those are derived from the KOTOR games...Could be wrong though.

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TorLinWaDur
12-18-2005, 11:58 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by scaarmor

I believe those are derived from the KOTOR games...Could be wrong though.

Cain
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thanks scaarmor.

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xwingband
12-19-2005, 09:20 AM
No wonder... the games are the last source you should go to for stuff like that. They just made that up so they wouldn't have to give you one more option. Rule of thumb for games: if it's not elsewhere (books, movies, etc...) it's BS they made up to make the game seem "cooler". Having classes is something that is there baceause darn near every FPS has a class system.

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Cyambin
12-20-2005, 01:29 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by TorLinWaDur

thats discouraging no thoughts on the color of jedi classes.
my friend told me that these are the means of color of lightsaber.

Blue - Guardian
Green - Consular
Yellow - Sentinel
Silver - Weapon Master
Purple - Watchman

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AW HELL NAW
That's not it is it? Because unless it says that SPECIFICALLY in KOTOR 2 which I did not play I am 100% sure the last two are wrong. Purple is just rare and silver is...something else. Weapon Master and Watchman are ranks, not jedi types.

informalmyx
12-21-2005, 06:22 AM
there is really no color code for sabers it is usally the users choice

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Mur-Pa DiLos
12-25-2005, 03:32 AM
If I'm not mistaken, I read in one of the Scrapbooks (I believe it was Ep 1 but I may be mistaken) it said that the Jedi who use green blades are more "Force" attuned (Obi-Wan, Anakin) where as Jedi who use the green color are more "Life" attuned (Qui-Gon, and Yoda). It seems to make sense, I just wish I could tell you where I found it, long, long ago... anyway, I haven't found anything for the other colors (purple, yellow, aqua etc.) I'm sure it's somewhere in the expanded universe, somewhere. I do know that the red is created by the Sith Apprentice for his/her lightsaber on purpose.

Jedi-Loreen
12-25-2005, 02:42 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Mur-Pa DiLos

If I'm not mistaken, I read in one of the Scrapbooks (I believe it was Ep 1 but I may be mistaken) it said that the Jedi who use green blades are more "Force" attuned (Obi-Wan, Anakin).......
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xwingband
12-25-2005, 02:54 PM
I believe he's talking about the unifying force vs. living force, but as I said before NONE of these "rules" work all of the time so speculating is pointless.

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Nightwing
01-11-2006, 12:12 PM
Well, according to the prequel trilogy visual guides, Blue is slightly more "traditional".

Also, many people have observed that many Jedi Masters use a green blade, signifying their committment to the force rather than battle (Qui-Gon, Yoda, Luke...).

Oh, and Lucas once said that the only "real" colors are Red, Blue, Green, and (by special request of Samuel L. Jackson) Purple.

xwingband
01-11-2006, 12:37 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Nightwing

Well, according to the prequel trilogy visual guides, Blue is slightly more "traditional".

Also, many people have observed that many Jedi Masters use a green blade, signifying their committment to the force rather than battle (Qui-Gon, Yoda, Luke...).

Oh, and Lucas once said that the only "real" colors are Red, Blue, Green, and (by special request of Samuel L. Jackson) Purple.
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*groan* I was hoping this had died and stay on the back pages...

I agree that RGB are "the" colors with the inclusion of purple for Mace. The others are just creative authors and video game makers.

How about Obi-wan? He stayed as Blue even on the jedi council. Luke was green yet he was only an unofficial knight.

When there is exceptions to every "rule" there aren't really rules are there?

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Nightwing
01-11-2006, 12:39 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by xwingband

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Nightwing

Well, according to the prequel trilogy visual guides, Blue is slightly more "traditional".

Also, many people have observed that many Jedi Masters use a green blade, signifying their committment to the force rather than battle (Qui-Gon, Yoda, Luke...).

Oh, and Lucas once said that the only "real" colors are Red, Blue, Green, and (by special request of Samuel L. Jackson) Purple.
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*groan* I was hoping this had died and stay on the back pages...

I agree that RGB are "the" colors with the inclusion of purple for Mace. The others are just creative authors and video game makers.

How about Obi-wan? He stayed as Blue even on the jedi council. Luke was green yet he was only an unofficial knight.

When there is exceptions to every "rule" there aren't really rules are there?

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<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Oh it wasn't a rule; it was just something some people have generally noticed. More like a "tendency".

desertscorpion
01-11-2006, 12:57 PM
Yeah, there are no rules, but at the same time, those games aren't just crap. All of that stuff is cleared through Lucas and produced either directly or indirectly by his dudes. Those guys have artistic license, but a lot of that stuff has been accepted into official star wars canon. That is, Lucas definitely doesn't want to put out something in the future and have to say (like he had to for Boba Fett,etc.) "Oh, just ignore that other crap we put out." It's the first KOTOR that mentions that stuff, and it puts out a pretty good story. Then in Kotor 2 they have just about every color but plaid. I haven't played any of the Role playing games, but they probably have something to say. As far as the graphic novels and comics go, most of the ones I see don't even try to make the lightsabers look that good (at least older comics), much less care about the color. The biggest thing I've noticed with all things Star Wars is that the fans have way more ideas (and even cooler, in my opinion) than Lucas ever thought of.

journeyman171
01-11-2006, 10:16 PM
As far as this is concerned i kinda wanna punch lucas straight in the mouth, because he is responsible for all of the clashing in the different storylines because this stuff is suppose to be lucas authorized. i read a number of different books and "guides" to star wars where it speaks of a cast system where:
Green is master
blue is padawan
and red is sith.
however that is hardly believable as Obewan's first lightsaber color was white in the original release.

Then when they casted samuel jackson to be some pimp jedi, he carried with him the purple color that he carries through every movie if he gets a chance (i.e. Unbreakable). Totally throwing out both the kotor cast system, and fore-mentioned "lucas authorized" system. Since then, in the creation of the episodes one through three, jedi now carry all the colors of the rainbow. Its a shame really cause i've always enjoyed the idea of the jedi's rank being shown through his lightsaber.

*other colors in kotor can be added by downloading additional content from xbox live, so i'm not sure wheither lucas stamped his "approval" on those aswell.

desertscorpion
01-12-2006, 01:30 PM
I have to agree with you, journeyman, Lucas has kinda screwed some things up, and he's always been kind of a jerk about his stuff, anyway. He'd ignore fans on many things and then go to these more recent award shows and say stuff like "It's all been for the fans." He's always been kind of smug. That quality doesn't wear well on anyone.

Ryma Mara
11-30-2006, 10:39 AM
I just have to post this.....*digging up old topic*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightsaber#Colors
http://www.forceacademy.com/main.htm

Mor-El Kesav
11-30-2006, 06:30 PM
Lucas himself has stated that there only 3 colors for Jedi Lightsabers; blue, green, and very rarely purple. Those are the only colors the gems grow in naturally. The color of the crystal means NOTHING in the form of a ranking system. The red sith color comes from the fact that the Sith use artificial gems.

Source: Star Wars.com interview with George Lucas

SaberSentinel
12-01-2006, 10:20 AM
Technically speaking in kotor:

Green = Jedi consular
Yellow = Jedi sentinel
Blue = Jedi guardian

But even in the game the Jedi say you can have whatever color you want. So even though I always pick the Jedi sentinel I use a green lightsaber once I find a green crystal.

Pirate King
12-01-2006, 12:29 PM
Alright, the only reason there was a green saber in the first place was that the blue rotoscoping washed out on the tatooine set. The only reason there's purple is because Sam Jackson is a bad-ass. Originally, it was just supposed to be blue and red. Anyone trying to find some deeper meaning in the colors really has to reach to do so. Between AoTC and RoTS, I'm not even sure if some of the peripheral's saber colors are consistent. Does anyone remember if Kiaddi Mundi's saber is the same color on the battle of geonosis and his death scene? or Kit fisto's?

Lord Maul
12-01-2006, 02:01 PM
Alright, the only reason there was a green saber in the first place was that the blue rotoscoping washed out on the tatooine set.

cool factoid pirate.
the color of the lightsaber has nothing to do with the jedi's rank. people have said that blue is padawan which is bullsnitz and that purple means that you are like a complete master but, last time i checked, yoda is higher ranked than mace windu and he doesn't have a purple blade.

Ryma Mara
12-01-2006, 02:27 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightsaber#Colors

Somewhere in there they say the history of how mace got his crystal.

Some thing about how the cyristal comes to the user in the trials, I dot know really, the only part of the EU books that I got is the one of boba and the mandiloreian armor.

james3
12-01-2006, 02:38 PM
Boy we never tire of this one huh? :wink:

Pirate King is correct for the blue green purple reasons in the movies, but...

Saber Sentinel is correct on the classification given by the Knights of the Old Republic game.

Remember, this is a Lucasgame deal so it at least holds the same weight as anything else EU. We of course can have the big debate on if EU is canon or not but that is of course an insane task. That does not change the fact that at one point there was a lightsaber classification among the Jedi and by the time of the movies there may no longer be the classification. Let's also not forget that by the time we get to NJO half of the folks are running around with purple sabers.

Bottom line this is how my little Star Wars world goes:

Kotor and sith era- Lots of colors, ranking used, all that good stuff. Wild hilts, etc. This is where the hardware stuff and use of claws is all out

Movie era- blue,cyan,green,purple(rare),red. Hilts are more conservative in design for the most part.

NJO era- The colors are back! and total freedom once again on hilt design.

Most of y'all will not be surprised to know that this works perfect most of the time for folks who want a saber. If they are willing to spend a hundered bucks or more then they already have a better then average understanding of the Star Wars world.

Ryma Mara
12-01-2006, 02:42 PM
I dont get this term I keep reading about.

canon

I have never heard of that term in anything starwars but it keeps popping up.

Whats it mean?

iron_man_2006
12-01-2006, 03:55 PM
beening that their is on guide or person of Lucas Flim saying what every color is or means just make one, once and for all and smack Lucas for the over sight.

LordArgyll
12-02-2006, 08:37 AM
Today's vocabulary lesson:

can·on1 /ˈkænən/ -noun
[...]
3. the body of rules, principles, or standards accepted as axiomatic and universally binding in a field of study or art: the neoclassical canon.
4. a fundamental principle or general rule: the canons of good behavior.
5. a standard; criterion: the canons of taste.
[...]
9. the works of an author that have been accepted as authentic: There are 37 plays in the Shakespeare canon.


"Canon" when used in reference to Star Wars, Star Trek, etc. refers to any works or derivative works deemed to be an authentic and official part of the universe. For instance, the Expanded Universe is deemed canon by Lucasfilm, whereas the Infinities series of comics by Dark Horse are not canon, since they supercede the events in the Original Trilogy.

Thus end's todays vocabulary lesson. ;)

Ryma Mara
12-02-2006, 09:16 AM
ok ic

Lord Maul
12-02-2006, 12:07 PM
someone actually beat JLo to the vocab lesson :?: :shock:
this is definitely a first. :lol:

Ryma Mara
12-02-2006, 12:15 PM
This is the room of ppl who care

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xwingband
12-02-2006, 12:32 PM
This is the room of smarta$$e$

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Dude, you're the one that couldn't look it up in a dictionary... then ask what it means... and respond that way to another comment.

Lord Maul
12-02-2006, 12:38 PM
This is the room of ppl who care

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wow, you're so funny.
you don't even get the joke since you haven't been on this site very long.

What
12-02-2006, 12:43 PM
:? this seems to be going in the direction of:

http://skintigh.tripod.com/drpepper/pepper.jpg
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http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/118358/2/istockphoto_118358_popcorn.jpg
Edit: Maul, it works for me???? :wink:

Lord Maul
12-02-2006, 12:46 PM
Dr. Pepper pic no worky :(
fix it NOW! :D

Ryma Mara
12-02-2006, 12:55 PM
I figured it was a starwars term sence the only time I seen it anywhere was in reading stuff on starwars.

Ive never seen it used anywhere else.

james3
12-02-2006, 01:44 PM
Maul is right. linky no worky.

Maul go get us some Dr. Peppers so the whole class can share.

This has some great potential http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_firedevil.gif

Jedi-Loreen
12-02-2006, 01:49 PM
hmmm. I see the Dr. Pepper. :?

Lord Maul
12-02-2006, 04:23 PM
Maul go get us some Dr. Peppers so the whole class can share.


why don't we just make Ryma do it? he is after all the new newbie postwhore :twisted:
that's what i was when i was the unofficial TCSS Dr. Pepper fetcher :D

987654321a
12-02-2006, 04:41 PM
haha yea.

Firebird21
12-02-2006, 05:42 PM
The unofficial TCSS Dr. Pepper fetcher



There's your new rank... :twisted:



It's rather catchy.
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Eruialsul
12-03-2006, 12:25 AM
But what saber color goes along with that rank?

Lord Maul
12-03-2006, 12:27 AM
The unofficial TCSS Dr. Pepper fetcher



There's your new rank... :twisted:



It's rather catchy.
:wink:

its a lot better than a _

ya hearing this xwing? i think the TCSS Dr. Pepper fetcher has potential :lol: