Curved hilt

[Luke-SkyMarcher]

I have a person asking me to make him a bladed curved saber, so I was wondering if anyone who has done this can post about it. Thanks.

-Luke

[xwingband]

Curved or Angled?

Pink joints would work well for angled. Curved is a whole 'nother ballpark though.

[james3]

Are we talkin ala Dooku?

I know we have ran over this here and there but never in one spot. This could be interesting.

I did one with the traditional sink pipe fittings but I cut out all the threaded pieces. It was ok but not my favorite.

[Luke-SkyMarcher]

Curved, angled, just so its bent :D
I was thinking along the lines of the angles in yoiaholics saber on this page: http://thecustomsa.web133.discountasp.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=703&start=30

[Luke-SkyMarcher]

yeah, this guy, for some reason, wants it as his primary saber, a la dooku, maybie I'll put on a single MHS claw....

[james3]

Yep, MHS and PVC.

Works well to do the job. We have even bounced around some ideas on bending pipe.

[987654321a]

wow that would be hard without a pipe bender or a lathe, because with a lathe you can just machine the parts out and have seperate pieces, but either way it would look cool.

[james3]

Pipe bender is readily avaliable at HD and such.

[Tenric Starkindler]

might one use the angled approach and put a corrugated tube (sink hose) over the angle piece to achieve a smoother bend in look and feel?

[Yoiaholic]

I bought mine from RLSA. Rob does a great job with the sabers and his customer service is excellent. If you can't do it yourself he's a great guy to talk to. I'm sure if you went and bought your own curved sections (the ones on my saber are just copper pipes from HD) then rob or tim could machine the other parts for you.

One other option in randomsabers. They just started a pipe bending endevor. Ryan is currently offering curved practice sabers (stunt sabers with no room for electronics but can hold a blade). These are probably the closest thing you will ever get to a true curved saber and they look really cool.

[xwingband]

Well, PVC is easy... here's Ultra's Dark Initiate V2:
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4734/initiate001ux0.jpg
http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/1577/initiate002pl8.jpg

[Tenric Starkindler]

I have also seen vacuum cleaner extension tubes used. They are curved and about the right diameter. they can be ordered as replacement parts I believe....

[Ronin]

that black PVC saber looks great.

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the only way i've been able to think of doing it with tims parts involves a blowtorch and something with quite a large circumference to bend it around.

the crude and inefficient methods are always the best. :D :D

at some point i'll get a 1 1/2" sink tube and try it. its just pricy (and slow) having things sent to england.

[987654321a]

why not just get a curved section of a sink tube

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In all honesty i didn't know what a sink tube was until i came here. oh the trouble i had working out what a heatsink was!

how thick are tims peices?
i'm doing a big order next year (when i have xmas money :D and postage pricing comes down again) and i'm considering altering my design if it possible to bend one of the double grooved hilt peices. the only thing i worry about is warping the threading of the connectors. i don't mind burnishing on the top as this is i will call 'character'!

[xwingband]

Bending a double connector after the fact would be practically impossible. It's only like 2 inches long. You'd rip the thing apart.

[Jedi-Loreen]

Is it even possible to bend a sink tube? The brass is pretty thin.

I can imagine what might happen, the inside of the bend creasing or splitting; or the outside of the bend splitting. Has anyone tried bending a sink tube?

[987654321a]

i havent done it but with a soft metal like brass it would tear.

[JadedMonk]

I had limited success making relief cuts a little more than half way through the tube. The curve was then wrapped in leather. This is a very delicate solution though. I spread JB weld across the cuts inside the tube and between the cuts. I let it cure for a couple of days, even so a few minutes of rough handling by it's owner broke most of the JB weld. I haven't worked on a hardware saber since, but I think if I'd reinforced it somehow it might work. Perhaps fiberglassing the inside of the curve, instead of JB weld.

Cheers,

JM

[Madcow]

I am working on a curved saber now. I used a J - shaped peice on sink tube. A sink trap actually. I cut the curve to give me the angle I want. I will post pics later this week. I'm pretty happy so far.

MC

[Dregan]

Here's a thought - do the relief cuts like JadedMonk, but instead of using a cold wleding putty, do real welds on it. The brass is so thin, I'm pretty sure that even a tiny arc welder will do the trick...

[james3]

Interesting, just one problem. I would bet that most do not have the tools or the knowledge to do that.

[Dregan]

Using an arc welder is stupid simple - the trick is using it well. I'm not there yet.

BUT.

Look up automotive muffler shops in your area. Cut and bend it yourself, then take it there to have them weld it. Most guys will only charge a few bucks for something that small. Take it home and sand it yourself.

After I finish my current project load, I'll start on one of these.

[james3]

That is where you may have an advantage in Ohio.

You go ask someone in a shop to do anything for you and look to pay AT LEAST hourly rate which could be 75 bucks easy.

[Dregan]

LOL

read what I said here...

http://thecustomsa.web133.discountasp.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1799

[Madcow]

So here it is unfinished.

I used the longer J-shaped peice that came with this drain trap. I cut the bottom off the "J" to give me the angle I wanted. I machined aluminum parts to fit the pipe - you could use plastic pipe parts.
http://rpetkau.photosite.com/~photos/tn/6399419_348.ts1164316038769.jpg
Then 2 bolts drilled and tapped to hold my aluminum peice solidly inside the Sink J-pipe.
http://rpetkau.photosite.com/~photos/tn/6399421_348.ts1164316040094.jpg

Next I'll add grips and electronics.

MC

[james3]

Lookin good MC.

[vortextwist]

That is cool, can't wait till it's finished.

[Powered Convoy]

Looks awesome.

Randy

[vortextwist]

Using an arc welder is stupid simple - the trick is using it well.

using a mig welder or (wire feed), or finding someone that could tig weld would look better. You wouldn't have the splatter as you would with a stick welder. It's also easier to control the heat without melting through.

[Spencer_P]

I'm gonna have to try making a curved hilt someday--maybe black with an amber LED blade.
What is a good way to bend PVC? Would boiling a piece in water make it flexible enough to do the trick?

I wonder if that black Siloflex pipe would work better than PVC.

[vortextwist]

I think they make some pvc pieces just like the metal sink drains, not sure what the od or id is or even thickness, may have to take a trip to the hardware store.

[Luke-SkyMarcher]

Plenty of good suggestions here!
This is what I'm kinda thinking:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-3/1165233/curved.JPG

Sink Tube
MHS Claw
MHS emitter and pommel
and the grey is PVC 45 degree elbows.

Madcow, that curve is awesome! If I could do the same sort of thing with a MHS adapter, that would look much better than the above.

-Luke

[Tenric Starkindler]

should be do-able.

MHS adapter + 1.5" elbow section + MHS adapter.........

[JediHilt]

You only want a curved saber if your planning on dualing your friends in combat Form:2 or Makashi which was used exclusively by several sith aprentices the reason why you will rarely if not ever see a jedi using a curved saber the Form:2 is almost exclusively designed for knight to knight combat a jedi will rarely ever have such a fight and a sith almost exclusively fight jedi so they use Form:2 (fast percise blows) while the jedi use form3 (all defense) form4 (no longer used after Qui Gon Jen's death) form5(all strength) form6 (a little bit of all the forms but master of none) form7(moves that are defensive and offensive at the same time the most demanding of skill of all the forms) this link will explain the differences http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makashi and here is a link that will show the sith who used curved sabers note all were killed form 2 is hopeless against an extreemly agressive attack such as form5 which vader used to disarm and kill dooku however if you made the the saber correctly so the the bend was in the right place on the saber and it didn't have as extreem of an angle like dooku's like 20 to 30 degree bend instead of 45 it could be capable of forms 2 and 3 which might be a pretty formadable light saber being capable of form 2 would definitely be helpful for taking on dual bladed knights or mutiple singles with a single blade.
http://www.thelightsaber.com/IndexFolder/index2.htm click on histories look at asajj ventress darth tyranus and komari vosa

[JediHilt]

Here is what I had in mind just made this today on CorelDraw12

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n68/M9man/Razor.png

[Madcow]

Just finished it today...
http://rpetkau.photosite.com/~photos/tn/6647322_348.ts1165103514214.jpg
http://rpetkau.photosite.com/~photos/tn/6647366_348.ts1165103586559.jpg
http://rpetkau.photosite.com/~photos/tn/6647370_348.ts1165103588365.jpg
http://rpetkau.photosite.com/~photos/tn/6647643_348.ts1165104542692.jpg
3W. red, rubber grip, aluminum prong, 2 AA batteries, rocker switch.

MC

[987654321a]

that is really nice mad. i really like it, wow all this talk about a curved saber is making me hungry for a new saber. soon young padawan!

[vortextwist]

that is a nice one, great job MC.

[Powered Convoy]

Great job Madcow!

Randy

[What]

all this talk about cow is making me crave a cheeseburger.....oops sorry MC :oops: .... O yah, really good job on your Curved saber, I like how its all sithy and has an evil aura to it.

[Firebird21]

all this talk about cow is making me crave a cheeseburger...


Mmmm... Red Robin...

[Lord Maul]

all this talk about cow is making me crave a cheeseburger...


Mmmm... Red Robin...

don't forget drive through mc donalds :D
of course that is only if ya want to eat horrible meat and food that is engineered to taste good :roll:

[james3]

Jester I am soooo with ya on the Robin.

A burger, shake, and keep them fries comin'.


....And what the heck is up with McDonalds? That's not even good on a bad day.

[Firebird21]

I could eat McD's breakfast food until I'm 400lbs and be happy as a pig in http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_****.gif



Which is essentially what I'd be at that point. :roll:


Edit: James, that Burger with the Egg on it... http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_mouthwater.gif
I thought that was going to be gross... But I heard someone talking about it so I was like, "Aw hell, there's always the Unlimited fires.." and it was awsome!

[Lord Maul]

the bottomless fries are da bomb at red robin 8)

I could eat McD's breakfast food until I'm 400lbs and be happy as a pig in


i'm with ya on that one FB :twisted:

[JediHilt]

How did we go from talking about curved hilts & Makashi combat to fast food :?:

[Firebird21]

How did we go from talking about curved hilts & Makashi combat to fast food :?:


This board tends to have a sevear case of Attention Defficet Dissorder. :roll:





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[james3]

How did we go from talking about curved hilts & Makashi combat to fast food :?:


This board tends to have a sevear case of Attention Defficet Dissorder. :roll:





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Reporting for duty Sir!
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And yeah the royal rocks! Like you said, if ya ain't tried it ya don't know what yer missin.

[Lord Maul]

How did we go from talking about curved hilts & Makashi combat to fast food :?:

firebird has a odd knack for doing things like this... :D
oh well, it makes for a good read. hey firebird, could i be in the derailment squad?somehow i already know the answer... :?

[ginospice1]

Initially, I was reading up on the curved hilts to see what else has been experimented with, then you guys lost me with all the food. In fairness, I'll agree on the robin, but not on the clown burgers, science aside md still taste like poo. As for soy sauce, its awsome on gungan stir fry.

More seriously is the earlier mention of vacuum hose extentions. I have two of these type under construction. The curve in these are less drastic than that of pvc or j-tube constructions, which makes for a comfortable grip. The metal is also a stroger alloy. I found mine in resale shops & garage sales for next to nothing, but I have seen them on ebay under "electrolux".

It also appears that the skinnier section is the same diameter as a 1.25" tube (main shaft section) while the hose end (after removing the hose) is slightly larger than the wider end of a 1.25" sink tube. What you end up wit is a stronger 1.25" sinktube with a prefabricated curve, and fatter emitter shaft area.

Hope this is of help to anyone, and I'll try getting some pics of mine posted.

[Ryma Mara]

double 1/4 lb'r with cheese, add bacon, large fry and a poweraid to drink.

Thats my staple and I still love it, at BK Its the quad staker large frys and a root beer.

at sonic I like the toaster with the one onion ring. arbies the chedder RBeast with curly frys and a root beer.

Oh and the best disert ever is the bananna puding shake at sonic. go get one now.

[987654321a]

How did we go from talking about curved hilts & Makashi combat to fast food :?:

firebird has a odd knack for doing things like this... :D
oh well, it makes for a good read. hey firebird, could i be in the derailment squad?somehow i already know the answer... :?

its an honor to be in the derailment squad. but as the official unoficial spokesperson that got rejected more than 7 times of the special forces 101st derailment squad i have to say no for now. but then again my word doesnt count so you have to hear it from them.

[Lord Maul]

come on FB, you can make me private pyle and james hartman :lol:

[elrond.406]

How did we go from talking about curved hilts & Makashi combat to fast food :?:

firebird has a odd knack for doing things like this... :D
oh well, it makes for a good read. hey firebird, could i be in the derailment squad?somehow i already know the answer... :?

Ooh! Ooh! I want to join too! I'd be top member :mrgreen:. Wait, I derail more than all you guys put together already... :P

[Firebird21]

Wait, I derail more than all you guys put together already... :P



It's all about quality, not quantity. Derailing every Topic is bad.


In fact, the constant, pointless and needless derailment of too many Topics that should NOT has led me to put the Derailment Unit in a state of Suspended Animation so as to distance the Unit from such reckless activities.

[vortextwist]

we need to put nimrod in suspended animation :lol:

[elrond.406]

Wait, I derail more than all you guys put together already... :P



It's all about quality, not quantity. Derailing every Topic is bad.


In fact, the constant, pointless and needless derailment of too many Topics that should NOT be derailed has led me to put the Derailment Unit in a state of Suspended Animation.

Namely the ones concerning the store, or the ones Stydur & Corbin read and intervene...correct? 8)

[Ambo]

Roger, sig put away due to suspension.......