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Strydur
10-11-2006, 03:52 PM
The first claw mount and claw style are in..there will be more to come as I get time. I will add these to the store soon.

http://thecustomsa.web133.discountasp.net/forum/claw1.jpg
http://thecustomsa.web133.discountasp.net/forum/claw2.jpg
http://thecustomsa.web133.discountasp.net/forum/claw3.jpg

Here is a couple setups I toyed with.

http://thecustomsa.web133.discountasp.net/forum/claw4.jpg
http://thecustomsa.web133.discountasp.net/forum/claw5.jpg
http://thecustomsa.web133.discountasp.net/forum/claw6.jpg
http://thecustomsa.web133.discountasp.net/forum/claw7.jpg
http://thecustomsa.web133.discountasp.net/forum/claw8.jpg
http://thecustomsa.web133.discountasp.net/forum/claw9.jpg

ryanlb
10-11-2006, 04:23 PM
:shock: :o Awesome! I'm be getting those I fear.

xwingband
10-11-2006, 04:35 PM
Oh baby! Sweetness incarnate. :shock:

My next order just got bigger... I don't even have saber to put it on... but I will make one. :D

Do-Clo
10-11-2006, 05:33 PM
Another item designed to make me spend money :(

gstealer
10-11-2006, 05:43 PM
That is just fantastic!

Great solution. I'm ordering a set.

987654321a
10-11-2006, 06:49 PM
wow....

Lord Maul
10-11-2006, 07:12 PM
great work tim!
too bad i can't put those on my sabers, they are totally sweet!

987654321a
10-11-2006, 07:39 PM
maul why dont you post some pics of your sabers, i wanna see your sabers! lol

ryanlb
10-11-2006, 09:12 PM
The first claw mount and claw style are in..there will be more to come as I get time. I will add these to the store soon.


I suddenly realize I missed half of the message: First claw mount...more to come. I'd better start saving money.

Tenric Starkindler
10-11-2006, 10:55 PM
I really like the reversed style you posted.............now to find a poorly guarded bank nearby........ :lol: :wink: :roll:

Jedi-Loreen
10-12-2006, 02:45 AM
That is nice, Tim!

I always think if odd numbers as being Sithly. Even numbers as more Jedi-like.

I sure hope you make a mount that holds 4 claws! (I'm getting closer to my Nomi Sunrider saber if you do!)

darthdan
10-12-2006, 03:17 AM
Any idea on what prices will be? Looks great, would work well on a pommel with a switch in it too.

james3
10-12-2006, 04:43 AM
How far away are these puppies? I have a few hilts here that would benefit from those right now!

Jonitus
10-12-2006, 05:01 AM
Brilliant!

This is fantastic. So many people want claws on sabers, and these will fill the bill nicely. I like how the claws are plain...almost like a blank canvas that could be re-cut to any shape we desire.

*shakes piggy-bank to purchase a set when available*

JediMcD
10-12-2006, 06:01 AM
Very nice work Tim. Thanks for the work you put into designing these things. They look great. I will definately have to get some of these when they get in the store.

What
10-12-2006, 07:24 AM
Not having money sux!!!!! I know, that i will want these when they appear in the store! I also know that the other styles that you are creating maybe even cooler............. ahhhhhhhhh the demons in my head wont stop telling me to do stuff to get money..........

Jedi Ranger
10-12-2006, 08:28 AM
Saaaaawwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

DACOTA
10-12-2006, 04:57 PM
hey how abote some prongs that are in the shape of the ears pieces on general grievous's head that would be sweeeeeeeeeeeeter.

the_black_smudge
10-12-2006, 05:09 PM
Dear Goddess that rocks socks!

Strydur
10-12-2006, 08:03 PM
I am open to design ideas for future claws..so if you want to see something get designing.

xwingband
10-12-2006, 08:41 PM
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9180/clawsul6.jpg

Those two for starters.

Lord Maul
10-12-2006, 09:09 PM
try doing somethin like chaos's claws, those babies were sweet man

ryanlb
10-12-2006, 09:33 PM
I would think starting with simpler curved claws, like Xwing's example, would be better than trying to copy a complicated set of claws like chaos'. Besides, those would be expensive, they were around $75US.

DACOTA
10-12-2006, 09:44 PM
ok somthin around this if not thats ok cuase i can make them myself then it would be like well i made them so its more cool that way but they would be cool for you to make.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h146/DACOTA007/grievousprongs.jpg

What
10-13-2006, 08:25 AM
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/8149/fgsdfgsdfgdgdmf1.png
I think that there should be some curved ones sorta like what X-wing made, but they should extend farther and go inwards a little towards the blade....... again to demonstrate my vague description, my vague ms paint picture. :o Also, like in the picture, should be a 4-pronger...

Enolmano
10-13-2006, 11:34 AM
woooow.... f**kin nice!
I really love them!

Tenric Starkindler
10-13-2006, 12:00 PM
Ideally I would like to see claw options from 3 to 6 claws. fewer or more would not look quite right.

ryanlb
10-13-2006, 01:08 PM
It's in the store - $45 for the whole thing, a little steep maybe, but then again, maybe not.

Jonitus
10-13-2006, 01:53 PM
It's in the store - $45 for the whole thing, a little steep maybe, but then again, maybe not.

Not a bad price for the machining involved in making them. I can see quite a bit of work went into them. I'd love to get a couple sets for the sabers I'm building for my girlfriend and I, but they are a little out of my price range right now.

SilentBob501
10-14-2006, 09:29 AM
Umm... Im not so sure about that price point. $10 for 1 prong!? Who buys one prong? At least give a price break if you buy 3, or something. Ive been on board with most of Tims pricing thus far, but this seems a bit much.

xwingband
10-14-2006, 09:38 AM
Well, Chaos' prongs costed $75 I believe he said... He's also a UK person. Pounds are twice the USD.

I don't think it's that high... metal is volumetric, hence the Luke and Obi emitters being more.

SilentBob501
10-14-2006, 09:58 AM
What I like about the MHS system is that there are many peices, most of which are relativly inexpensive. You can buy a couple of more expensive core peices and contuinually buy new little pieces to add and tweak out your saber, constantly customizing and changing your design. I know personally my MHS saber tends to change design depending on my mood every couple of weeks. I rely on those little interchangable pieces to be inexpensive so that I can buy them on a whim and not take too much of a financial hit. All Im saying is that the claws are priced a little high for some saber bling. Its more of an investment. Maybe a price break if you buy the entire set, holder and claws, or something?

Enolmano
10-14-2006, 10:42 AM
same design but bigger (or just longer), so you could have like ob long and to smaller....that would be nice

james3
10-14-2006, 11:40 AM
I lived by a simple rule when I had my business.

If nobody is buying your stuff, you are to high.
If everybody is buying your stuff, you are to low.
If you are selling enough to make it worth it, you are just right.

Bob, just some stuff is going to seem like that. Marketing can be a bear sometimes, if Tim had just put the piece together as a whole unit and slapped 45 or 50 bucks on it, I would bet most everyone would order/not order at the same rate as the luke/obi-wan emitters. By doing it in pieces, people can choose their setup but now we are looking at it from a different point of view. Instead of 50 bucks for a machined claw set complete, we are looking at 10 bucks for a milled out claw. It all becomes a matter of personal value.

Tim could EASYILY double his prices across the board and I would bet there would still be a fair group to purchase everything, but he is trying to make quality machined pieces at a price where a working man can enjoy this hobby and he's able to put a few bucks in his pocket. I have no problem with that, and I know that I will do a claw here and there for some sabers and one day I will make the MHS that I want which has that obi-wan emitter. I understand that you are getting parts just for your personal use but if you shopped around at some other places that have something you would snitz at the prices.

naashar
10-14-2006, 01:11 PM
Most impressive! And, well stated, James...

Strydur
10-15-2006, 08:09 PM
James3 pretty much summed it up. When I figured out what these would cost I almost decided to not do them at all. I hate to offer something for a price that seems high to me. I actually have lowered my mark-up on these do to that fact. Some things just cost more to make. If you looked at the claw as just a punched out piece of aluminum $10 does seem high but figure that it has to be turned on its side and precision drilled and counter bored for the mounting screw and that adds a costly extra step to the process.

Enolmano
10-17-2006, 10:56 PM
I see a silver claw and I want to Paint it Black :P
Question: is it possible to have O-rings under them? (under the smaller part of the emitter...)

Darth_Dadderall
10-21-2006, 06:32 PM
Ah, at long last! Thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou.
Suggestion: Four-point equidistant collar/claw holder and a "slim" series with a thinner collar that thickens at the mount points.
And Enolmano's right, this biznitch is getting anodizded for sure.
Xwingband: Love the curvy claws.
Also: I agree with the feeling that these MHS claws can be used as a template to further customize.

Daj Nallig
10-22-2006, 08:19 PM
*Bowing* Master Strydur, you have truly outdone yourself. I'm just sorry that I can't order anything 'til March. But when I do...

CrudeSword
10-24-2006, 12:20 AM
nice new addition to another part for a hilt

ryanlb
10-26-2006, 01:06 PM
And it looks like I have an excuse to buy some stuff tomorrow, what with 10% off, maybe I'll even go so far as to grab a t-shirt too.
Curse you, Strydur, I'm trying to save money and yet you force me to spend it. Claws, here I come!

vadeblade
10-30-2006, 04:31 PM
So, when will the claw parts be integrated into the MHS Builder??

vortextwist
11-19-2006, 02:39 PM
would it be possible to get holes drilled and coutersunk in the tips (well as far forward as possible to still make it durable. or about makeing the mounting bracket with threads so one oculd add it into the hilt instead of over it?

Lord Maul
11-19-2006, 03:12 PM
to make the bracket with threads you would have to re-design the whole thing since it is designed to make the claws flush with the saber already

xwingband
11-19-2006, 04:09 PM
would it be possible to get holes drilled and coutersunk in the tips (well as far forward as possible to still make it durable. or about makeing the mounting bracket with threads so one oculd add it into the hilt instead of over it?

Into the hilt??? Explain, I can't for the life of me picture what you want.

vortextwist
11-19-2006, 04:13 PM
into the ear pieces so a person could possibly leave a gap and then attach a nother hilt piece.

james3
11-19-2006, 04:41 PM
like this?

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e370/Dadof3/MyLightsabers022.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e370/Dadof3/MyLightsabers021.jpg

vortextwist
11-19-2006, 04:43 PM
ya kind of. but hav holes farther towards the tip to add a blade holder but actually hold the blade. so the light of the blade would show through.

xwingband
11-19-2006, 04:45 PM
Perhaps that's what he's getting at but other than the "luke" and "obi" emitter it fits over all of them flush. Even then it'd be just a few cuts to make them fit the normal direction.

Darth_Dadderall
11-19-2006, 06:12 PM
Not the type-7's, X-wing. It starts tapering immediately after the threaded section.

xwingband
11-19-2006, 06:23 PM
True, but you just move it down to the hilt section.

Darth_Dadderall
11-19-2006, 07:09 PM
Yeah... that kinda looks like dianoga cloaca. I'm going to end up having to jb-weld custom-cut claws to my piece. I could also use a cross-section graphic of a type-7... Or I could just go measure mine...

EDIT: Hey, Xwing: What's up with Blue Squadron?

Ryma Mara
11-21-2006, 02:07 PM
Ok IIRC vortex is looking for something like this with the claws.

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/6756/img0543smallcroppedtn6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Barrowed for Information periouses only.

james3
11-21-2006, 02:39 PM
what the heck is iirc?

vortextwist
11-21-2006, 02:42 PM
my brother is a little weird. If I Recall Correctly

xwingband
11-21-2006, 07:21 PM
Ok IIRC vortex is looking for something like this with the claws.

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/6756/img0543smallcroppedtn6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Barrowed for Information periouses only.

Okies...

I don't see how that achieves this though:




into the ear pieces so a person could possibly leave a gap and then attach a nother hilt piece.

If that's all he wants, then get brass bars and do what they did. I believe the reason Tim did them the way he did is so that it's truely modular. If you attach them straight to the emitter you have to have a whole new set of emitters claw ready. This allows you to slip them on.

vortextwist
11-21-2006, 07:40 PM
and? That is basically what I want.Where he is using the brass bars, I want to use the claws and the mount. I just wanderd if he could drill and counter sink holes at the ends. (as far forward as possible without them breaking easily). Basically the way he has them only farther forward and an emiter mounted towards the tips.

Thanks to Jedibum for the pic

http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01080sb1.jpg

xwingband
11-21-2006, 07:46 PM
Yeah... that'd just be some custom work for Tim. Yes, it's feasible though.

You can buy the straight emitter though and mount it all the way to the front too. The custom work would be for the ones like the tapered emitter.

vortextwist
11-21-2006, 07:48 PM
cool becouse I like how on some of the other guys' hilts they have some light showing through the emitter or just before. I think I'm gonna try and mount 6 of them on there though. I can use a drill press at work.

elrond.406
12-12-2006, 06:19 PM
No offense, but is it just me or to add this set of claws to your saber, youll need atleast 50 some bucks?

xwingband
12-12-2006, 06:43 PM
No offense, but is it just me or to add this set of claws to your saber, youll need atleast 50 some bucks?

No offens but if you are asking if others can add... yes, we realize it's $50. The way it mounts is not something cheaply machined. It's not like anyone is forcing you to buy it either.

vortextwist
12-12-2006, 07:10 PM
wow! He can add. :shock:

edit: damn x, your fast!

xwingband
12-12-2006, 07:12 PM
by the time stamp you posted 25 minutes after me... you're slow. :P

vortextwist
12-12-2006, 07:13 PM
I thought when I posted I didn't see your post. oh well gots to get faster :D

JediHilt
12-12-2006, 08:09 PM
Hey Tim you think it might be possible to in certain cases if the person wanted claws and the design of the hilt allowed for it you could just make small slits in the hilt and put claw like fins attached by say JB weld in the slot seem as a cheap way of doing it :?: that might silence atleast some of the "IT COSTS HOW MUCH!" screams that you seem to be getting in regaurds to the claw system.

Firebird21
12-12-2006, 08:14 PM
If you want cheap, go to Home Depot.


If you want quality, shop here.

JediHilt
12-12-2006, 08:17 PM
If I want quaility I'll go to Random sabers the MHS stuff is the cheap stuff.

elrond.406
12-12-2006, 08:21 PM
If you want cheap, go to Home Depot.

All rite I will :P


If I want quaility I'll go to Random sabers the MHS stuff is the cheap stuff.

:x Try to remember who's forum you're in before you start insulting the one stop saber shop! :evil:

JediHilt
12-12-2006, 08:24 PM
Hay I'm not dissen the TCSS I love how you guys have it set up so it's so easy for someone to make their own design I was just upset because I was try to make a helpful suggestion and firebird got as fiesty as the character in his avatar I mean look at that little green dude he's evil.

Lord Maul
12-12-2006, 08:27 PM
If I want quaility I'll go to Random sabers the MHS stuff is the cheap stuff.

nice, really nice. nothing like insulting one man's hard work on HIS forums. you are really smart :evil:
FB wasn't mad at you, he was just being frank. don't point fingers

Firebird21
12-12-2006, 08:28 PM
If I want quaility I'll go to Random sabers the MHS stuff is the cheap stuff.



So this is overpriced crap?


Dude, let me get you a bigger shovel...


http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_goodnite.gif

JediHilt
12-12-2006, 08:31 PM
Hey when I said cheap I meant cheap in price not in quality I would take an MHS hilt over any replica hilt any day.

Firebird21
12-12-2006, 08:33 PM
Hey when I said cheap I meant cheap in price not in quality I would take an MHS hilt over any replica hilt any day.


OK then...

xwingband
12-12-2006, 09:02 PM
If I want quaility I'll go to Random sabers the MHS stuff is the cheap stuff.

Okay I've seen you post enough dumb crap... think before you post.

If you want Randomsabers stuff, go wait in his line of work and don't post here.

EDIT: Just as much as Ryan there has his own quality standard, Tim probably isn't going to modify the MHS to allow you to epoxy claws on. :roll: Mind you Ryan can't make a light up saber any cheaper than here.

Lord Maul
12-12-2006, 09:06 PM
we have gotten some very troublesome n00bs these past couple weeks, eh, xwing?

987654321a
12-12-2006, 09:11 PM
how insulting is that for someone to call another mans product "the cheap stuff". now thats just retarded. it doesnt matter if you mean pricewise or qualitywise, its still wrong!

Tenric Starkindler
12-12-2006, 09:23 PM
Wrong is right !!!!!!!! (and not directionally)

Apples and Oranges.

I have and do deal with both and find both to be not only very high quality, but very highly service oriented as well!!

I own an RS hilt I designed myself and I will soon be making my first 5W luxeon MHS (just as soon as the bonus comes in).

as to the claws (which is on topic :wink: )
The more I see of them the more I like them......

Lord Maul
12-12-2006, 09:26 PM
the claws are awesome. those bad boys will be on my ultimately cool mhs hilt in the spring :wink:
it sickens me what you said man :cry:

JediHilt
12-12-2006, 09:33 PM
If it makes any difference I meant that random sabers was exspensive not that MHS was cheap you took it the wrong way.

987654321a
12-12-2006, 10:11 PM
i didnt take it the wrong way. i knew what you meant from before instead you could have said it had a really good price for what it is.

Jedibum
12-13-2006, 06:37 AM
JediHilt ... I think the best thing for you to do to diffuse this situation is just apologize for the comment. It is impossible to defend ... "If I want quaility I'll go to Random sabers the MHS stuff is the cheap stuff." ... you can't defend that comment by saying you meant price ... you clearly meant quality ... it's right in what you said. Your comment was in comparing the products of these two companies ... and you used the word quality when comparing ... not price. So you can't go back later and say you meant price ... it's obvious that you meant quality, implying that TCSS stuff is cheaper in quality than Randomsabers and therefore should be cheaper in price, and everyone has easily picked up on it. What you should have done is responded by saying you said it in the heat of the moment and you don't really believe what the sentence is implying. But you can't change it's obvious meaning. As you can tell, that's just going to make everyone even more mad.

As far as the MHS Claws go ... I bought a set as soon as Tim listed it ... I think I even posted some pics of my hilt with the claws attached ... in my opinion they are awesome and totally worth the price. I can't wait to see more claw options Tim!

LordArgyll
12-13-2006, 07:22 AM
Hey Tim you think it might be possible to in certain cases if the person wanted claws and the design of the hilt allowed for it you could just make small slits in the hilt and put claw like fins attached by say JB weld in the slot seem as a cheap way of doing it :?: that might silence atleast some of the "IT COSTS HOW MUCH!" screams that you seem to be getting in regaurds to the claw system.

Machining the slots into an MHS component would probably end up costing you as much as the special mounting bracket.

Folks don't seem to understand production costs. The more fiddly a bit is, the longer it takes to machine it, and the longer your machining time is dedicated to working on one piece, that's time that is not available to make the easier, less expensive components in greater quanitities. You have to make up for the lost time/revenue by charging more for the more complex bits. Since the claw components are asymmetrical and can't be turned like the other components... well, they take a bit more time (and thus money) to produce.

Unless you already have the equipment and materials available to you and you can machine them yourself, I'd say the prices are quite reasonable. :)

Ryma Mara
12-13-2006, 07:24 AM
Sorry x I will just get rid or it alltogeather, Just kinda agro today.

xwingband
12-13-2006, 07:30 AM
It was insensitive... that's all. I don't think he needs to apologize to us. If anyone it'd be to Tim, but if that's his opinion... it's not worth it.

Tenric Starkindler
12-13-2006, 08:36 AM
I also really like the reverse claw look on the pommel end.....gives it a Maulish look......

I would be interested in seeing what different types Tim comes out with next...4,5, or 6 claw attachments \ wider space from the body \ perhaps a double claw...

Ryma Mara
12-13-2006, 09:28 AM
I would love to see a 2 and 4 claw mount, i think anymore than 4 would look to bulky, claw styles are limitless I look forward to see more.

JediHilt
12-13-2006, 10:37 AM
You know what your right I have to appologize I took offense to what firebird said when I allready wasn't in the best mood and just said the biggest jerk comment that rolled off my toungue I was really just mad at firebird I didn't mean to offend the rest of you so I'm sorry and Tim I've grown up around dirtbikes I know how much work and hours and pecision and perfection there goes into lathing aly and the pieces you make are well built.

Firebird21
12-13-2006, 10:41 AM
You know what your right I have to appologize I took offense to what firebird said when I allready wasn't in the best mood and just said the biggest jerk comment that rolled off my toungue I was really just mad at firebird I didn't mean to offend the rest of you so I'm sorry and Tim I've grown up around dirtbikes I know how much work and hours and pecision and perfection there goes into lathing aly and the pieces you make are well built.


For the record, I wasn't trying to be mean or single you out, I was trying to make a point. Sorry if it offended you.

JediHilt
12-13-2006, 10:43 AM
It's not your fault Firebird I had a migraine and was pretty irritable because of it. :D

Ryma Mara
12-13-2006, 11:12 AM
Garlic peparonie(sp) pizza bread is yumm

james3
12-13-2006, 12:12 PM
Darn good thing that I was busy yesterday huh? Frackin' n00bs. :roll:

ryanlb
12-13-2006, 02:18 PM
Darn good thing that I was busy yesterday huh? Frackin' n00bs. :roll:

Yeah, I was looking for you to comment, and you never did. :(

Lord Maul
12-13-2006, 03:47 PM
i second that one... i was expecting you to go completly ballistic on jedihilt :twisted: looks like i we missed out on the fun :twisted: :twisted:

elrond.406
12-13-2006, 03:57 PM
we have gotten some very troublesome n00bs these past couple weeks, eh, xwing?

:!: Am I one of them?

vortextwist
12-13-2006, 04:19 PM
I would like to mount 6 claws on there. but it wouldn't be too difficult to drill and tap 3 more holes on the mount.

987654321a
12-13-2006, 04:49 PM
You know what your right I have to appologize I took offense to what firebird said when I allready wasn't in the best mood and just said the biggest jerk comment that rolled off my toungue I was really just mad at firebird I didn't mean to offend the rest of you so I'm sorry and Tim I've grown up around dirtbikes I know how much work and hours and pecision and perfection there goes into lathing aly and the pieces you make are well built.

what do dirtbikes have to do with sabers? haha just playin with ya.

Lord Maul
12-13-2006, 05:23 PM
we have gotten some very troublesome n00bs these past couple weeks, eh, xwing?

:!: Am I one of them?

at times, yes. but you are not one of the VERY annoying ones we got :D

Tenric Starkindler
12-13-2006, 06:01 PM
I would love to see a 2 and 4 claw mount, i think anymore than 4 would look to bulky, claw styles are limitless I look forward to see more.

I think more than 4 could work well if the claws were thinner and more like "tines". It would be an interesting thing to see.

Perhaps Tim can do a "Claw Adapter" that would allow for different numbers of clasw to be used. the extra holes in the adapter could be just another design element. Then we'd have one claw mount and perhaps several different claws to choose from (even mix'n'match).

Tenric Starkindler
12-13-2006, 06:02 PM
Darn good thing that I was busy yesterday huh? Frackin' n00bs. :roll:


BG fan james3?
:wink:

james3
12-13-2006, 07:24 PM
Darn good thing that I was busy yesterday huh? Frackin' n00bs. :roll:


BG fan james3?
:wink:

Old and new both. I love em bud. :wink:

Tenric Starkindler
12-13-2006, 07:46 PM
Darn good thing that I was busy yesterday huh? Frackin' n00bs. :roll:


BG fan james3?
:wink:

Old and new both. I love em bud. :wink:

Took me awhile to get over how they changed the plumbing on some of the main characters. :lol: I have the original on DVD and my kids love them. The new one is a bit too much for them (they're still young) but it is a great show.

james3
12-13-2006, 08:22 PM
I agree completely! Seems to be the most common thing among us fans. I let my kids see the old Richard Hatch/Dirk Benedict stuff but the new deal is strictly Adult only.

darthdan
12-13-2006, 10:25 PM
I was just wondering... would it be possible to just drill and tap holes into your hilt and screw the claws into it without the "claw holder"? Maybe use a narrow strip of sink tube or whatever to lay in that groove in the claw to keep them aligned properly? Then you could use however many you wanted...
I ask because I've never seen the claws in person, but from pics it seems reasonable.

Tenric Starkindler
12-13-2006, 11:40 PM
should be doable. The claw attachment does position them so they clear the blade though.

JediHilt
12-14-2006, 09:51 AM
what do dirtbikes have to do with sabers? haha just playin with ya.

In answer to your question Grand Jedi allot of times with dirtbikes you have to machine parts.

Firebird21
12-14-2006, 09:52 AM
You'd most likely have to drill a second hole in each claw so they don't spin on you. The holder has channels to stop this.

Enolmano
12-14-2006, 02:53 PM
Wich thumbscrew are you supposed to get with the claw, there are two longer ones, but witch of hem?

vortextwist
12-14-2006, 03:11 PM
i don't think they are thumbscrew. I beleive they are a allen head cap screw (thats what they are called where I work)

Jedi-Loreen
12-14-2006, 05:07 PM
i don't think they are thumbscrew. I beleive they are a allen head cap screw (thats what they are called where I work)

Yes, you are correct. They are the 6/32s that are sold in the store.

There is a larger hole in one of the flat areas where you put a thumb screw or other screw to hold the mount onto the blade holder.

I would probably use a set screw for that, myself. I have a box of 10/32 stainless steel set screws that I would use, personally.

vortextwist
12-21-2006, 02:52 PM
what are the dimensions of the claws, length, width, thickness? mesurments between notch and ends? thanks

987654321a
12-22-2006, 12:44 AM
why not pm tim.

vortextwist
12-22-2006, 07:46 AM
becouse I beleive tim has alot to do and I figured that someone that had them could just measure.

Jedi Ranger
02-20-2007, 07:49 PM
Can someone tell me the dimensions of the claws, please?

ESPECIALLY the cut-out mounting section on the bottom (length x width x depth).

A (CAD) drawing would be great, and easier to label.

Thanks!

gagglone
02-20-2007, 10:45 PM
A cool idea for it...
Staggered claw holder.

For example, it would be pricy, but i'd pay for it, take the emitter, and drill the three holes in it at a different level on the emitter.


sorta like:

_________
|............X
|.....X
|X...............

that way, you could have the claws come off the end of the emitter at three different levels, and give it a bit of a darker look.

Corbin_Das
06-04-2007, 08:55 PM
Just thought I'd show how these claws can also make an interesting pommel:

http://www.imgplace.com/directory/dir3761/1181015243_8380.jpg

http://www.imgplace.com/directory/dir3762/1181015247_4202.jpg


Here they are as an emitter on a number 1 blade holder:

http://www.imgplace.com/directory/dir3761/1181015239_3957.jpg


Corbin

Ravage179
06-04-2007, 09:00 PM
Geez! that makes a really beefy head beater!

Enolmano
06-05-2007, 07:53 AM
my head keeps saying "war-hammer" when I look at that thing...
But it's an interersting idea, I've thought of using them as really good forehand-absolotely-no-slip-grip.

Marsupial
06-05-2007, 01:28 PM
when I asked Corbin for this pic, I was thinking about a 2-bladed lightsaber. I think it would look good for the 2 emitters.

Corbin_Das
06-05-2007, 01:52 PM
Yeah, you can thank Mars for the pics. He asked about it during chat here last night and I reassembled one of my MHS sabers and took the pics to show him. I figured others might want to see too, so I posted it here.

So it's all HIS fault. :D


Corbin

Novastar
06-05-2007, 01:54 PM
It's funny, Corbin was talking to me about reversing the TCSS Tri-Claw at C4. I had thought about it before as well, but I only have one claw saber, and I don't have much of a need to reverse it.

I still think this is the point of TCSS parts... custom stuff.

It's also why I use the "MHS 2 Sink tube" part with 1.25" tubes as WELL as the 1.5" tubes.

The more creative we all are with these, the more others can be as well... and the more ideas Tim & Corbin will get to improve/modify/create parts.

Corbin_Das
06-05-2007, 03:25 PM
Hi all.
I was wondering if people might want to chime in and say which new claw style they liked best. I've also included the original claws we already offer for reference.

Also, if anyone wants to draw up their own and post it here, I'm including a blank version at the end for folks to use.


First, the claws we currently have:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/corbin_das/clawblank.jpg

Then the variations:


NUMBER 1

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/corbin_das/claw1.jpg

NUMBER 2

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/corbin_das/claw2.jpg

NUMBER 3

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/corbin_das/claw3.jpg

Here's the blank pic if anyone wants to do their own and post it:

pic (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/corbin_das/clawblank2.jpg)


Corbin

vortextwist
06-05-2007, 03:27 PM
i like the 2nd pic my self but they all look good

Darth_Constantine
06-05-2007, 04:08 PM
claw style 2, mos def.

the_black_smudge
06-05-2007, 06:09 PM
rder of preference, 2,1,3 but all look great!

Ravage179
06-05-2007, 07:32 PM
looks like your gonna have to make lots of style 2 cause thats my fav too.

Jay-gon Jinn
06-05-2007, 09:16 PM
Claws really aren't my hting, but I like set #2. I can't see #3, though. I'm getting the little red "x."

Darth_Constantine
06-05-2007, 09:27 PM
after review style 1 is more my type.

TimeRender
06-05-2007, 09:45 PM
I'm glad everyone else seems to feel the same way. #2 is looking sharp.

Corbin_Das
06-07-2007, 04:43 PM
I agree that #2 looks pretty good. Of course, it's the only design that can't be spun around in the holder, since the end of the claws sink deeper than the rest of them. Still, it looks nice.

Here's another claw design, only it's a combination claw/ blade holder. There's no separate claw mount. It's just slots milled into the blade holder itself. It's essentially a number 7 blade holder with a ball on the end and the claws mounted into slots milled into everything:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/corbin_das/newstaff.jpg

Anyone like this look? Note I've got it drawn with 4 claws on there currently, but it could be done with whatever number you want (within reason).

Corbin

Jetsi
06-07-2007, 07:13 PM
I have to agree with everyone else. They are all nice, but Number 2 is a definite must have.

vortextwist
06-07-2007, 07:16 PM
not sure of the ball end, maybe the look of the maul emitter with the claws.

Tenric Starkindler
06-07-2007, 07:23 PM
They do look nice, but looking at the pics I am concerned about the claws interfering with the diameter of the blade itself....

Corbin_Das
06-07-2007, 08:16 PM
They do look nice, but looking at the pics I am concerned about the claws interfering with the diameter of the blade itself....

Yeah, the claws would have to be made in such a way to allow the blade to pass through. The current ones allow for about .25" of space between the claws and the blade. So the sections on the claws that stick down would have to be made the right size.

I wasn't sure on the ball, but I was looking for some sort of reinforcement that the claws could pass through without taking away from the look. I tried a more blocky section, but it didn't look right to me.
I'm always open to new idea if people want to post them or email them to me or whatever. Posting would be better since folks could comment on them.


Corbin

Marsupial
06-07-2007, 08:17 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/corbin_das/newstaff.jpg

Anyone like this look? Note I've got it drawn with 4 claws on there currently, but it could be done with whatever number you want (within reason).

Corbin

I'd love this design, but with the claws made for a spiffy emitter instead of claws. Claws are more for sith, and I'd like to be able to use the parts for a hefty jedi emitter. This said, the original design is perfect for that.
I like the 4-claw combo. I think 4, 5 and 6 are great combos. (maybe pricey too, :( )

Could the same parts be used in adding some longer section, a.k.a. metal grip of some sort? (I'm not sure its desirable, but 2 holders, transversal bars, might be interesting to look at)

Corbin_Das
06-07-2007, 08:28 PM
Can you draw something up Mars?

The body of the saber is just a standard S Hilt number 1 with a pair of grooved extensions. The saber I carried around C4 was similar, only it had V-grooved extensions and number 3 emitters with claws.

Here's a picture of it, though it has custom ideas overlayed onto it to show where I wanted to put recharge ports and other cosmetic stuff:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/corbin_das/staff.jpg

Marsupial
06-08-2007, 07:12 AM
yeah, I'll come up with a drawing... catch me on MSN this week-end if I don't post it by then.

Corbin_Das
06-10-2007, 09:10 PM
With number 2 being so popular, how does THIS look to everyone?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/corbin_das/3DClaw.jpg

Corbin

Hasid Lafre
06-10-2007, 10:10 PM
nice, I just hope it dosent look bulky like the style 1 claws do in the shop.

Maybe the style 1's in the shop could be resized?

Strydur
06-10-2007, 10:40 PM
How you see them on the images Corbin posted is exactly how they will look.

Jedi Ranger
06-10-2007, 10:51 PM
Now THAT style I like, Corbin!

Have I missed a discussion somewhere, about the potential availability of 4-claw holders?

Onli-Won Kanomi
06-15-2007, 12:54 AM
WOW that "Number 2" looks great!

Onli-Won Kanomi
06-19-2007, 11:28 PM
Okay this is not so much about the claws themselves as the mount for the claws...

I see the claw mount here is only available for 3 claws in a 'triangular' form...it looks good imo but it isnt ideal imo...for example you have several emitters with 4 holes/slots but it appears a 3 claw mount wouldnt line up right?

I suppose you might add another claw mount for 4 claws to the store to adress that...

but then someone might want a 5 claw 'star-pentagon' mount, or a 6 claw 'hexagonal' mount...

...stocking separate mounts for several different numbers of claw configurations seems like it would be impractical

sooo...

how about instead of the 3 sided mount plus perhaps others there was just one 12 sided 'universal' claw mount...that way whether you were mounting 3, 4 or more claws you could just use the sides that you wanted to add as many as 12 claws or fewer claws in more varied configurations than just evenly spaced for an even more 'custom' appearance.

Maybe in keeping with the naming motifs here perhaps you could call it the 'Modular Claw System'?

And it might also increase claw sales since one could add more than 3 claws and in more than one of the different styles discussed above if more claw options become available...perhaps 3 of one kind and 3 of another say...of two each of three different kinds...etc

It could just add more 'customizeability' eh?

supertrogdor
06-20-2007, 05:48 AM
I will go ahead and second the request Onli-won, modular claws would kick rear

Amanita
06-29-2007, 09:55 AM
Styles 2 and 3 look hella nice, Amanita likes! Same with the dual ended saber Corbin posted the rendering of, that's sweet too.

Corbin_Das
06-30-2007, 10:11 PM
Here's a quick drawing I did showing a circle with 12 slots for the claws. I'm not sure how well they'd all fit on there, but there ya go.

If someone didn't use some of the slots, would you just want them to be open with a threaded hole in the bottom? I suppose there could be blanks made, but that's a lot of parts, and added expense.

It would be bulky too.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/corbin_das/12pointclaw.jpg

Corbin

Amanita
06-30-2007, 10:25 PM
Unless the claws were alot thinner than the ones on the site now, 12 claws would be serious overkill, IMHO. Not to mention extremely heavy and hard to balance, unless you had a double ended saber with two of those things, for a total of 24 claws.
Personally, I think that getting too much above 3 or 4 claws is pushing it in terms of practicality.

Corbin_Das
06-30-2007, 10:38 PM
I think I agree.

Jedi Ranger
06-30-2007, 11:58 PM
I wonder how an emitter would look with 5 or 6 claws. Basically enough to match the number of "cubes" on a pommel (Obi-Wan or Luke-style, for example).

Yeah, I think 12 slots is a little overkill.

Amanita
07-01-2007, 06:24 AM
5 or 6 would probably be the limit in terms of practicality- anything above that would probably weigh alot and just be hard to handle.
I can't wait to see the new claw designs in the shop, I know I want some:)

supertrogdor
07-02-2007, 06:24 AM
While we currently have a rounded piece with 3 flat sides, what about a regular 12 sided polygon (too lazy to look up the name of that figure) rather than cutting 12 holes as per Corbin's drawing. Maybe inverse the recess rather and have a slightly raised section to lock the claws in place and let us drill and tap our own holes. Far less machining for the maker and the price would correspondingly seem more reasonable as Tim would not have to spend 92834675098237 hours to crank out one unit

Jedi Ranger
07-02-2007, 07:22 AM
While we currently have a rounded piece with 3 flat sides, what about a regular 12 sided polygon (too lazy to look up the name of that figure) rather than cutting 12 holes as per Corbin's drawing. Maybe inverse the recess rather and have a slightly raised section to lock the claws in place and let us drill and tap our own holes. Far less machining for the maker and the price would correspondingly seem more reasonable as Tim would not have to spend 92834675098237 hours to crank out one unit

While I personally think that is a decent idea, there would just be way too many people wanting that extra little bit of work done for them. But, it's not my store, so I guess we'll see what Tim and/or Joe have to say about it.

vortextwist
07-02-2007, 11:55 AM
Tom? :P

Jedi Ranger
07-02-2007, 05:49 PM
Tom? :P

Tom? Tom who? :P:P:P

vortextwist
07-02-2007, 08:01 PM
lol. I had to.

Moro Kadon
07-06-2007, 09:59 AM
Very much reminds me of Exar Kun's sabre. Or was it Master Thon's? Either way, very Knights of the Old Republic-esque. Bravo, sir.

Onli-Won Kanomi
07-20-2007, 09:16 PM
I may have been unclear [except perhaps to supertrogdor]...sorry folks...I wasnt suggesting one would use ALL the twelve positions for 12 claws which I agree would be too heavy...simply that the 12 sided 'disc' [what I had in mind was just that; a regular twelve sided piece of metal as supertrogdor said - much like a12-sided coin but of the appropriate thickness with a hole in the centre for attaching to a MHS section] would offer 12 different POSITIONS for claw mounting in which to arrange combinations of LESS claws in more varied ways.

And I did NOT mean to suggest 12 SLOTS like in Corbins interesting drawing but which I too would agree would be impractical to manufacture...in fact i wasnt thinking of slots at all.

rather a "dodecagon" - see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodecagon

My thought was actually that the 12-sided dodecagon mount COULD simply have 12 threaded holes drilled in each of the twelve sides and because it would be the right thickness one would just screw on as many - or as few - claws as one liked in whatever combination of positions one liked....and would also use one of the holes to screw the mount to the MHS section.

I guess saberbuilders could leave the 'unused' others 'empty' or plug them as they preferred

Alternatively one could have it be 'blank' and let folks drill and tap their own holes for the claws, as many as they wished in whichever sides they wished up to - but probably much fewer than - 12

It just seemed to me a twelve sided 'disc' mount would give people more options in positioning their claws than the 3 sided one that is presently the only mount available.

Sorry for any confusion as a result of my expressing my idea poorly.

Corbin_Das
07-20-2007, 10:38 PM
No problem.
The slots help keep the claws alligned however. Perhaps a different method to keep them lined up could be used, but that would require redesigning the existing setup a bit. The only things I can think off the top of my head is some holes that would have pegs on the bottom of the claws drop into, or slots, or a couple threaed holes and using a couple screws on each claw. I'm sure there could be other methods too.


Corbin

Braxus
08-02-2007, 04:46 PM
I was thinking of asking Tim to make these for use on my first saber. maybe if you guys like it, it may even become an option.

What do you guys think?

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6749/braxusclaw1ey0.png (http://imageshack.us)


I like the slits. gives it more of an aggressive look, right?

vortextwist
08-02-2007, 05:42 PM
the only problem I see with those is if you happen to drop it, they may break off.

xwingband
08-02-2007, 07:24 PM
I don't think it'll break. The claws are pretty thick.

Have access to a bandsaw and files? More work, but that design could be done that way.

Corbin_Das
08-03-2007, 01:27 AM
Not a bad look on the claws. I had thought about a round cut out on there instead of slots, but that looks ok too.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/corbin_das/clawround.jpg


Corbin

Corbin_Das
08-29-2007, 05:26 PM
On another note...

Another one of our claw designs are available. Click on the pic for more info:

http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/images/product/medium/942_2_.jpg (http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/pc-942-33-mhs-claw-style-2.aspx)



Corbin

vortextwist
08-29-2007, 07:17 PM
those are awsome lookin.

Hasid Lafre
08-30-2007, 04:28 AM
Now thats a claw!

ArkaiHalon
09-01-2007, 01:47 PM
more claw ideas
http://www.k-squared.com/Lightsabers/MHS%20Claws.jpg

xwingband
09-01-2007, 03:07 PM
Still hoping for a curvy one!

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9180/clawsul6.jpg

Barmic Rin
09-01-2007, 03:13 PM
more claw ideas
http://www.k-squared.com/Lightsabers/MHS%20Claws.jpg

I'll take a variety bucket please!
All that's on the menu, & some dipping sauce!

Corbin_Das
09-01-2007, 09:04 PM
I like numbers 2 and 3.

X - I agree that a curved one would be cool. It's just the machining cost would probably be pretty high.

TimeRender
09-01-2007, 09:39 PM
3 and 4 for me please. The short claws would almost look like a mace head.

ArkaiHalon
09-01-2007, 09:56 PM
Just for X wing.

http://www.k-squared.com/Lightsabers/Noobcrusher.JPG

Lord Maul
09-01-2007, 11:13 PM
I like #2 and #3 the best.

ArkaiHalon
09-03-2007, 07:09 PM
3 and 4 for me please. The short claws would almost look like a mace head.

Mace you say?
http://k-squared.com/Lightsabers/macesabers.JPG

Hasid Lafre
09-03-2007, 09:29 PM
I like 4. would make an intresting pommel idea. especally with like 6 of them on the mount.

meiv4
09-09-2007, 01:19 AM
Man if only someone had a waterjet or edm machine, that could pump out these claws like they were popcorn.

Novastar
09-09-2007, 03:57 AM
No problem, I have those in my back pocket.

Totally kidding. :)
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Ok, so you all knew that.

DJMoonbass
03-01-2009, 02:07 PM
YESSS Claws. I have been waiting for such a long time to find some good claws. hey strydur i am working on a design for CNC for a really cool spiked emmiter shroud. it will have about twelve sharp spikes going all the way around the emmiter and crawl up the blade. it will look really nice. Once its done ill send you the designs and you can have them. im sure other people would love to have one for there MHS.

Malaki Skywalker
03-01-2009, 02:13 PM
YESSS Claws. I have been waiting for such a long time to find some good claws. hey strydur i am working on a design for CNC for a really cool spiked emmiter shroud. it will have about twelve sharp spikes going all the way around the emmiter and crawl up the blade. it will look really nice. Once its done ill send you the designs and you can have them. im sure other people would love to have one for there MHS.

DUDE! Look at the dates! 09-09-2007 :rolleyes:

Rhyen Skytracker
03-01-2009, 02:30 PM
I know. It was a while ago. We need claws now. lol

DJMoonbass
03-01-2009, 02:44 PM
Lord Maul just explained to me why this was tickin people off. sorry. i look at the dates now. wow. sorry

Tradeliphine
03-01-2009, 03:45 PM
thread rez or not, im going to have to agree with rhyen it would be nice to have claws back

Lord Maul
03-01-2009, 03:48 PM
Tim said a while back that new claws are in development. He is working on a lower cost setup.

Rhyen Skytracker
03-01-2009, 04:13 PM
That is great news. Thanks. :D

astromech_kuhns
03-02-2009, 12:41 AM
for whatever reason i canot view the pictures of the claws Tim.....

Donnovan Sunrider
03-02-2009, 09:37 AM
If you're talking about the pics in the post Tim made in 2006, I doubt they're still on the server to see.

$tarkiller
03-03-2009, 12:33 PM
I wouldnt mind having those for my saber.

Darth Cipher
03-21-2009, 04:47 PM
I just bought the parts for my first saber...I would love to buy a claw for it...

Lord Maul
03-21-2009, 05:28 PM
The claws are out of stock and won't be in stock for quite a while. We all know they are cool :cool:

I'm locking this thread.