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Amanita
08-19-2006, 05:38 PM
Yesterday, I attended my city's annual buskerfest, and had a great time. I wore my Jedi robes, and proudly carried my MHS lightstaff. My friends and I usually attend these events in costume. Unfortunately, two of my friends could not make it, and my other friend forgot her outfit. But that was okay. My lightsaber got a ton of compliments, and I had quite a few fun duels with buskers and even a group of cool goths.
All was going well until I headed for the bus stop to meet up with my dad and go home.

As I walked past a downtown office building, I passed a side stairwell leading up to its entrance. I noticed two people sitting there, and thought nothing of it until the female of the couple began to squeal "Oh my god, what the f*ck.." It wouldn't be the first time somebody has seen six feet of azure blue light passing by and squealed in surprise, so I didn't pay her much heed until she jumped out and began screaming threats and profanity at me, proclaiming that she was drunk, and saying all manner of stupid crap, telling me to "get the F out of here!!" BAAAD MOVE, girlfriend. Real bad move. I have zero tolerance for being threatened, especially for doing nothing worse than walking through a public place minding my own business.

While she was screeching at me, my hands were uncoupling the saber at its midpoint, leaving me with two hard, sharp striking ends in case she was foolhardy enough to attack on me. I didn't even think about it, I just found myself uncoupling the thing, prepared to defend myself with it if need be. I warned her several times to back off, and that continuing to follow me would NOT be a healthy move on her part.
As I rounded the corner, keeping my eyes on her, I aksed several passers-by if they had seen a cop. No luck, none around. There did happen to be one of the building's security guards there, a big stocky fellow. I only too happily informed him that there was a violent drunken female on the side steps of his building, and that she had been threatening me. As I headed for the bus stop (already running late at this point) I saw him heading for her. I wish I could have seen what happened next. Hopefully the little skank did something that resulted in her spending the night in the drunk tank.

After this little confrontation, I wondered- If she had persued me and I were forced to defend myself, would those MHS hilts be capable of inflicting serious injury? I know that the threads on the coupling segment are sharp, having cut my hand on them once, trying to unscrew the piece when it was stuck in place. And that wasn't even done with force- an uppercut to the jaw with that would be no laughing matter, surely.
The whole time this was going on,I wasn't too worried about my safety. Let's see:
I was sober, she was drunk.
I've had a few years of training, I would bet a shift's pay she had nothing.
I was armed with an improvised weapon, she had nothing (hard to hide anything under her slutty tight outfit)
I had at least a 50 pound weight advantage on her- I've got some serious muscle along with my fat, she was nothing more than skin, bones, and baby fat.
Stupid little girl, may she one day pull her crap on somebody with much less self control than me.

Mi Gin Gonn
08-19-2006, 05:47 PM
if it's at night, you could always have flashed the LED in the person's eyes, giving you a nice first-strike advantage. plus why use the hilt? polycarbonate will whup some ass (esp. if you got the thick-walled stuff).



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987654321a
08-19-2006, 05:50 PM
you did the right thing cause ur a jedi, if it was me since im a sith, i woulda knocked him**** out


***notice i didnt say her because of the fact that i would go to jail for a long time if i hit a girl, instead if it were a guy i woulda smacked him right across the face.

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Devilstar2k2
08-19-2006, 07:06 PM
Is Amanita male or female? I don't know what kind of name that is... Or if its even a real name?

In any case, most drunks will just fall over if you tip them the right way. [;)]

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Amanita
08-19-2006, 07:21 PM
I'm female:) Amanita is botanical Latin- translated into english, it means Angel.
And I only thought about using one of the LED's as a blinding instrument afterward. If I am ever threatened again, I surely will. And yes, the polycarb would sting like a mo-fo, but the metal would hurt more:)

The fact that she was drunk was a huge reason why I felt no real threat from her- a drunk's reflexes, coordination, and reactions tend to be right in the toilet anyhow- that's why drinking and driving sucks.
As for why I didn't smack her skanky ass into the pavement? Legally that would have been over the line, since at that point, she hadn't touched me. However, had she attempted to so, hitting her would have become self defense.

Drewbacca
08-19-2006, 07:41 PM
If swung properly, you could have killed her with a head strike. Probably good you let the little hussy go.

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Mor-El Kesav
08-19-2006, 07:41 PM
Polycarbonate blades are practically unbreakable. When applied to the human body in the appropriate manner, they can cause a great deal of damage. The damage would be the same as any other staff applied to the human body: bruises, broken bones, skin ruptures, damaged organs, etc... If you are well trained in the use of a lightsaber it should be considered a weapon and applied with discretion.

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Drewbacca
08-19-2006, 07:44 PM
Though if you would attack with the saber held how it's supposed to be held (by the hilts of course), a solid swing to the side of her head would knock her senseless...that PolyC hurts like a son-of-a-gun.

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the_black_smudge
08-19-2006, 09:54 PM
As a nurse, let me assure you that a 1" polycarb blade if used properly and under the right conditions can be a LETHAL weapon. At the very least you could cause a significant amount of damage in the way of blunt force trauma, broken bones and ruptured organs. Bear in mind also the legal ramifications of a situation like this. An assault against an unarmed opponent with a potentially lethal weapon. Granted it would've likely been considered self defense, and by a woman. These both would've weighed heavily in Amanita's favor. However it is well to bear the legal ramifications of beating the bejesus out of someone with a lightsaber before actually doing so.

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Shade
08-19-2006, 10:09 PM
Hmm, I don't know what I'd do in a situation like that. Use the dark side to lay her out on the curb or try to reason with her and remain peacful knowing full well it was the alchohol that was threatening me. maybe that's because I do not have an alignment yet...

Lord Maul
08-19-2006, 10:57 PM
if she attacked me i would of beat the snitz out of her with the saber and if she didn't i would of told the cop like you did

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GFORCE13
08-19-2006, 11:01 PM
Being a Jedi of the Light Side Discipline I believe she did the right thing, difuse the situation and only resort to combat when absolutely necessary. I actually had a similar experience with 2 drunk guys as I was leaving the Emergancy Room the other night, they wanted me to ditch my wife, take them to the Zebra Room and buy them drinks, I just politely shrugged them off and told them we had to get my wife some food after our 6 hr. stint in the Hospital. But I am seriosly thinking about building a take down claymore as in the first Highlander movie that easily will fit in the Trunk, you just can never tell.

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Lord Maul
08-19-2006, 11:03 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">But I am seriosly thinking about building a take down claymore as in the first Highlander movie that easily will fit in the Trunk, you just can never tell.
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what is that Gforce?

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virus692
08-20-2006, 12:47 AM
Dude,
A claymore (as in the first Highlander movie) is a large sword with a metal blade. think cut someones head off like a hot knife through butter. I for one am all for owning one. just don't get caught in public with one. it is a deadly weapon.[}:)]


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james3
08-20-2006, 07:57 AM
Good thing that you informed the guard and kept it at that. The odds are if you hit her you would be in jail. We could discuss all day long as to if that is fair or not but the law is what it is. We are not talking about going up against a guy twice your mass or anything so being a female would not hold up in court. I like that you had the presence of mind to stay calm and prepare for the worse but at the same time your intent to use the hilt could be used against you as showing willfull intent to cause harm. That would not be a good thing at all.

Guys and gals, this is a good reminder that we have fun and play with our toys but like it or not they can be classified as weapons if used for attack. A good wood baseball bat becomes a lethal weapon when it is used on someone.

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Lord Maul
08-20-2006, 11:56 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">like it or not they can be classified as weapons if used for attack<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

sadly yes [:(][V]

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Mor-El Kesav
08-20-2006, 06:51 PM
[quote]Originally posted by virus692

Dude,
A claymore (as in the first Highlander movie) is a large sword with a metal blade. think cut someones head off like a hot knife through butter. I for one am all for owning one. just don't get caught in public with one. it is a deadly weapon.[}:)]

I own a full sized Claymore Sword, 52 inches in length, approximately 10 pounds in weight with out the scabbard. The blade is so long that it must be slung over the shoulder to carry it. The edge of that weapon is traditionally blunted. On a Claymore Sword only the tip is sharpened. It was designed to break the legs of a charging horse and if it had an edge that would make the edge of the blade too weak and it might shatter. You would drop to one side and slash at the horse's front legs. That would either trip the horse or break it's legs. Once a charging opponent has been unhorsed, he is dispatched by stabbing him with the tip. Chopping at a the neck of adversary with that blade would likely break his neck rather than behead him.

A full sized Claymore was generally used by a warrior who was over 6 feet tall, and they frequently carried a smaller blade for use in closer combat. Sir William Wallace was calculated to be 6'4" inches tall. King Robert the Bruce was a shade over 6 feet. Both of them used full sized Claymores in battle. If anyone is interested I can recommend several good books on Scottish History that cover the battles of that timeframe.

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Lord Maul
08-20-2006, 07:23 PM
great facts mor el kesav
that's ingenious how the edge is blunted so you could bash stuff without worriying about breaking it

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Amanita
08-20-2006, 09:00 PM
If I had had to hit her, I would not have remained around long enough to speak to any cops. Hauled ass out of there, I would have. Any drunken raving on her part about Jedi and Lightsabers probably would have been taken as nothing more than the alcohol talking. When I make my next outer cloak, I intend to sew some hidden pockets into it, and perhaps slip a can or two of dog repellant into it. Dog repellant is just a nice way of saying Pepper spray, BTW. Funny thing about the laws here- if it's sold as animal repellant, it's legal. Picture of a dog on the label, it's all good. Picture of a human, not good. But in the words of my security guard father, if you use the stuff on a human who you believe is going to hurt you, and haul ass out of there, no jury in the world will convict you for using the stuff. I wonder how effective it is on drunks? Unfortunately tasers are not legal here >:(

Lord Maul
08-20-2006, 10:04 PM
i would still just beat the snitz out of the drunk. pepper spray just isn't me

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Shade
08-20-2006, 10:27 PM
In the words of Red Foremen, "Now cmon', that's dirty... Your gonna wanna knee him in the groin."

Eclipse
08-21-2006, 12:13 AM
lol my mind is racing thinking of how the media would report that one... Wow could you imagine

GFORCE13
08-21-2006, 03:36 AM
This is my favorite one it has a full tang and has seen a few battle pagents, I like Scaarmor am a memeber of Renaissance Live Steel Group and this is my weapon of choice. But I often carry a short sword and Targe( Small Shield) in battle for close combat. Unfortunately almost anything can become a weapon, I could see the headlines Drunk taken down by Lightsaber.http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c237/G-FORCE13/Picture.jpg


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What
08-21-2006, 02:59 PM
Then id never be able to be a jedi with a TCSS Saber for halloween at school !??!?!?!?!?! [:(] DONT KILL ANYONE, no matter how tempting it is......just punch that she-man in the groin!

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Lord Maul
08-21-2006, 05:25 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">just punch that she-man in the groin!
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or kick, or knee, or just ram them into a pole [:D]

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