3W Blue vs. 3W Royal Blue

[SilentBob501]

Ok so Ive been looking at all the pictures of blade colors and I cant see the difference between blue and royal blue. Can somebody please describe the differeces between the two colors. Does anyone have a preference? Is one brighter/better than the other?

[HiddenMooCow]

In my opinion I saw that the blue has a baby blue core look and the royal blue can appear with a deep blue effect around it with a white core. Again, that is just my opinion. I don't think one look brighter than the other but if you were to have to choose one, I'd recommend the royal blue.

[xwingband]

A picture is worth a thousand words... that axim is probably so true. If you can't see a difference then it's even sillier to go off a description. Unless you are trying to match a certain color then go with Royal Blue. If you don't want to end up with a blue you think is too light that's the answer.

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[Lord Maul]

i had this same dillema and i chose royal blue, i have yet to hook it up cause the conversion tutorial isn't up but it should be cool

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[HiddenMooCow]

I really recommend royal blue. It looks as though you'll be more happy in the long run compared to regular blue.

[Lord Maul]

and on the lumen chart it is like 2 times as bright as regular blue

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[HiddenMooCow]

Lumens tell technical info but sometimes they usually don't help. I think the reason why they have different lumen outputs is to make them appear to be at the same level when seen by the eye. Like if you were to see green at 30 lumens and red at 30 lumens, the green would look brighter. At least that's my theory please correct my mistakes if I'm wrong.

[Lord Maul]

i think your wrong because our eyes are most sensitive to green so it has the highest lumen count. it is a gauge of how bright the color appears to the human eye

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[HiddenMooCow]

Actually on the lux III red orange has the highest lumen count and 2nd is the regular red. Yet in some comparisons they look the same. But thanks for the correction, I really like the information and understanding everything about color and lumens.

[xwingband]

NO!!! You were correct to begin with. Lumens mean nothing to the eye. The colors that will be most sensative to our eyes would be the Amber and Green (the ideal is a yellowish green color).

Ever wonder why a 1W green is pretty nice while other 1W colors blow? Because green is a good color for our eyes. It's the same reason they use red or blue on lights meant for night use. Our eyes will adjust faster to the darkness using those colors.

Moocow is direct on there. Red-Orange is double the lumens of green yet it doesn't really appear that way. More accurately if you want to guage brightness the surroundings illluminated would tell better than looking at the blade itself.

Do not make a choice based on the lumens for Blue vs. Royal Blue either! mW to lumens the Royal Blue is half of the 30lumens on a Blue yet no one is saying the Royal Blue is any lower.

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[HiddenMooCow]

Wow, I actually got it right! I did my homework [8D]

[Drewbacca]

In my opinion...the regular blue is the "brighter" or "lighter" of the two. It seems to have a naturally lighter color, while putting off more light. However, the Royal Blue is a far richer color, but appears to me to be slightly more "dim".

It's all about your preference man. A good depiction would be to look at a blue lightsaber in one of the movies. The regular blue is closer to the core of a blue lightsaber. Whereas a royal blue is closer to the outside, darker edge.

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[Lord Maul]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">NO!!! You were correct to begin with. Lumens mean nothing to the eye. The colors that will be most sensative to our eyes would be the Amber and Green (the ideal is a yellowish green color).
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i was just guessing, your explination does make more sence than mine.

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[HiddenMooCow]

No, I don't mean that you didn't do your homework. I'm just surprised that I got something right finally for a change. I usually mess things up and make mistakes on monumental levels.

[Lord Maul]

looks like i did this time [:D][:p]

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[HiddenMooCow]

It's fun isn't it? but back on topic, what do you think your going to chose silentbob?

[Lord Maul]

*cough*royal blue*cough* [:D]

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[HiddenMooCow]

Heh, nice. But silentbob don't let any others influence you. Just look at the properties of each one. IMO if you want a brighter and more white core you should go with royal blue. But with regualar blue you might get a more baby blue like core.

[xwingband]

There is no such thing as a white core... so that's off.

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[Lord Maul]

i think silent bob just wanted to know the difference beetween the two colors HMC

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[HiddenMooCow]

Oh, sorry. You probably shouldn't listen to my babbly anyway cuz I don't even have my own saber yet.

[Drewbacca]

With my royal blue, it's really bright at the base. But when you get down the blade closer to the top, it's has more of a purple hue to it...then at the top it's blue again.

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[HiddenMooCow]

Don't let that purple scare ya tho if you don't like purple. I think it looks more like an indigo. It really is blue tho

[Lord Maul]

beetween the 2 blues, royal blue is the way to go

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[HiddenMooCow]

I can only recommend royal blue. But do not let me or maul influence you. Just go by your gut feeling because it's hard to go on anything other than that.

[SilentBob501]

OK so Royal Blue sounds like the opinion winner, but now let me ask how they compare to the movies? is one more accurate for prequel or OT?

[Do-Clo]

The royal blues seems to look closer to the color of the MR FX Anakin saber

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[Nightwing]

Judging only by pictures I've seen, it goes like this:

ANH: Cyan. (Although that's only due to problems with the ANH DVD colorization, not "GL's vision")

ESB: Blue

All prequel films: Royal Blue.


Since the Anakin ROTS saber is Royal Blue, it's safe to say that Royal blue is "the new, GL-approved Skywalker blade color". Not that we give a crap about that...

[Lord Maul]

i'm assuming GL stands for george lucas?

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[Nightwing]

Yes. :P

[Lord Maul]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">NH: Cyan. (Although that's only due to problems with the ANH DVD colorization, not "GL's vision")
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i would say that it is blue for luke's ANH saber nightwing

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[987654321a]

k ive had like 10 royal blue sabers now, and they are sooo much better, than blue, although its a slight difference, the blue is softer and lighter, but the royal blue is more fierce looking and darker, not dimmer, but darker than blue, so in my opinion get royal blue its so much better,

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[HiddenMooCow]

I'm gettin a royal blue this winter but I recently switched my order with ulra yet again but this time I'm goin red. I'll get royal blue later and complete my saber project at version 1.0

[Lord Maul]

your double mace will be sweet HMC

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[HiddenMooCow]

Yeah, I'm starting out with the red half then this winter I'm gettin the royal blue half and the coupler with the purple LEDs. Back on topic, Silentbob have you decided what you want?

[Nightwing]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Lord Mauli would say that it is blue for luke's ANH saber nightwing
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I'd disagree. Here's my OT blue saber breakdown:

ANH, Obi-Wan's house:
This one looks pretty bluish, with a hint of cyan.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f252/NightWing726/Lightsabers/ANH_1.jpg

ANH, Millennium Falcon:
GREEN?!?!?
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f252/NightWing726/Lightsabers/ANH_2.jpg

ANH, Millennium Falcon:
Somewhere between white and cyan.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f252/NightWing726/Lightsabers/ANH_3.jpg

ANH, Millennium Falcon:
Very cyan-looking to me.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f252/NightWing726/Lightsabers/ANH_4.jpg

ANH, Death Star:
Almost Royal Blue...
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f252/NightWing726/Lightsabers/baa2b114.jpg


ESB, Tree Cave:
Bluish-cyan.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f252/NightWing726/Lightsabers/f27bac7e.jpg

ESB, Tree Cave:
Blue.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f252/NightWing726/Lightsabers/192e4965.jpg

ESB, Bespin:
Near Royal-Blue.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f252/NightWing726/Lightsabers/a6ffa43e.jpg

Revenge of the Jedi teaser trailer, Jabba's Sail Barge:
Looks multi-toned; difficult to tell.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f252/NightWing726/Lightsabers/ROTJ_1.jpg

[Lord Maul]

basically the colors change in shades during all of the original trilogy

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[Nightwing]

Yeah. The only one that's stayed constant in the saga is Obi-Wan's saber, which is always royal blue.

The Skywalker Saber varies from blue to green-cyan in ANH, but is pretty much always blue in ESB.

[Lord Maul]

good pics BTW Nightwing

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[Nightwing]

Thanks! [:D] I think we should make a thread entirely devoted to comparing movie shots to LED colors.

[HiddenMooCow]

That's funny how that one "blue" saber suddenly became green for a second next to the MF

[Lord Maul]

yeah, silentbob, edit the title to something like lux colors comparied to movies

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[Nightwing]

No, no, no. I'll make a new thread.

EDIT:
Already done.
http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/sabers/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1425

[james3]

I have to add my 2 pence to the pot.

As I have said many times before throw the lumens chart out the friggin' window and burn it. The Royal Blue is rated differently and therefore has a rating off from everything else. Blue can range greatly depending on the bin from a green-teal to almost Royal Blue. I do NOT think that it is brighter then Royal Blue and to be honest I would say that the 1 watt royal blue is as bright as a blue 3 watt. My personal order of colors from brightest to dimmest is:

Royal Blue - it can really hurt your eyes if you stare at it to long
Green - again bright but crossing blades with RB and the greeen fades to it
Amber - It really seems to me that amber is a tad brighter then red and red-orange but this really is to close to call
Red and Red/Orange - I LOVE red as much as Royal Blue, r/o is nice but the straight red just has that blood red Sith color that I am looking for in a red saber
Blue/Cyan - six of one half a dozen of the other, seems that bin codes really are what makes the difference here and so far my cyan and blue LEDs look about the same
White - with no discs, film etc. it really is pretty and the option to make the blade any color you want so far out weighs the dim factor that it isn't funny this is great for those that want pink, purple, etc.

I think that is about it. May even be overkill but I thought I would throw it out there.
Bottom line is that the two sabers that I am doing for Halloween will be Royal Blue and Red

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[HiddenMooCow]

Hey! I'm already doing a two sided royal and red saber! It's under my "My project that will take a loooong time" thread, lol I can't wait to see yours so I can see what I should expect [8D]. Right now, if your doing holloween I think you should just leave the blue side at home and just do red. The reason I'm gettin the red half first is simply for holloween.

[Lord Maul]

i can do red green or blue for halloween, which one will i choose?

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[HiddenMooCow]

Heh, read my posts. I had that delema and everyone was tired of hearing me. I would go with red then eventually get the other 2. That's what I'm doing, I'm gettin red first, royal blue next, then green next year around this time.

[Lord Maul]

you should have tim machine you a custom triple saber coupler, that would be sweet having 3 sabers all connected at the hilt. not very sturdy but SWEET!!!

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[HiddenMooCow]

It wouldn't offer much variety for spinning and doesn't seem like it would be good in a duel.

[Lord Maul]

but you got to admit, having three sabers connected would be cool if not practicle

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[HiddenMooCow]

I'm sure a LOT of people have thought about it. Trust me, everything has pretty much been thought up if the lightsaber has been around for a LOOOOOOOOOOONG time. No offense.

[Strydur]

Dont forget one major thing when talking about blue and royal blue led colors which is the Bin number. A blue can range from light blue to what looks like royal blue. Here is a rough description of how bin# can affect color.

Blue bin 1-2 people tell me i sold them a royal blue
Blue bin 3-5 a good light blue..what most people want
Cyan bin 1-2 is what most people want in a cyan..blue greenish
Cyan bin 3-5 people tell me i sold them a green

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[Lord Maul]

thanks for the bin #s tim [;)]

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