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Lord Maul

08-13-2006, 08:16 PM

graflex style emitter

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Strydur

08-13-2006, 08:34 PM

With the ears and everything? or just the curvy design?

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HiddenMooCow

08-13-2006, 08:39 PM

Hmm, maybe you could offer it with an option on the buy page of it with ears and without. But what I'd like to see is an emitter with prongs, they can be cheap like these ones: http://i9.ebayimg.com/02/i/07/33/70/ac_12.JPG
Or you can make them better or improved. I would also like to see a body section with button hole that has indented lines going vertically down the saber to the pommel.

Do-Clo

08-13-2006, 08:43 PM

Since you asked

1) A good switch box option for the mhs hilt other then the MR Luke with a top cover plate

2) A sink knob style pommel

3) Graflex style blade holder with the S curve and the ears, they would not have to be as tall as a stock graflex ears and could be attached by drilling and tapping a couple of screws that way the ears could be added to other blade holders

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Ambo

08-13-2006, 09:25 PM

EDIT: Anodization...... I can guarantee everyone would liek to see some anodized pieces to the MHS......

Metal style bolt on grips shaped like the ruberized type u have, and maybe rectangular bolt on metal grips, of different materials if possible(copper, brass, aluminum).

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08-13-2006, 10:13 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">With the ears and everything? or just the curvy design?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

both so we can have a choice

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Drewbacca

08-13-2006, 10:45 PM

I would love to see a few more emitter designs. Also sink knob style pommels WOULD rock. Shouldered blade tips for the win. Perhaps a new ribbed section with the "grenade" look. I agree with the switch boxes, alot of us would like those. Hmm...honestly the thing I would love to see most is new custom emitters. But that's just me.

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macross73

08-13-2006, 11:00 PM

I'd like to see:

Graflex style emitters

the sink knob pommel

Grenade grips like a sleeve
you just slide it over the hilt
no need for sticky grips

the metal grips would be great too

silver metal push button switches

a prong emitter

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SilentBob501

08-13-2006, 11:21 PM

Id like to see an emitter design like number 4 with the cut-out sections but with a neck like number 5 so that its not all the same width as the main body.

xwingband

08-14-2006, 03:55 AM

Well... it's just my two cents, but...

The Graflex type head is NOT the best route to go. Any machined MHS type emitter will have so many issues. It's not symmetrical so it wouldn't line up with any switches, the ears are a royal pain to machine as I understand.

A much better idea to me would be waterjet cut sink tube and metal parts for making a graflex type emitter.

For other suggestions...

Sink drain pommels
Variations on the ribbed section (grenade, non-angled like pommel #4, etc...)
Activation boxes
Speakered pommels (PLEASE! They'd sell like hotcakes)

I'll be thinking... more to come later.

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Jonitus

08-14-2006, 04:29 AM

Sink-knob type pommels. Three I can think of right of hands that would be popular are ones that approximate Luke's from his ROTJ saber, something similar to an Armitage Shanks handwheel, and then finally the Obi-Wan TPM/ROTS pommel.

Pommels with pre-drilled speaker vents. Yep, these would sell fast.

A couple pronged emitters. If that's too tricky, maybe a short MHS section that could go just behind the available emitters that has prongs attached.

With the popularity of the sabers, perhaps it's time for a new emitter that looks similar to the emitter on the clan sabers carried by Kit Fisto and others? Similar in looks to the Darth Maul emitter?

It would be hard to get a good deal on it for small batches, but the ability to anodize the MHS would be great. I have anodized by reverse-electrolysis using RIT dye and it works great...maybe this is an option (for the right fee, of course).

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Do-Clo

08-14-2006, 05:27 AM

How about a full length center section that does not have a switch hole drilled in it.

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HiddenMooCow

08-14-2006, 05:50 AM

I would like to see more hilt and body sections. I really don't care what they could be but I just think we already have a lot of emmiter pieces and pommels to chose from but not enough body pieces. I like the "grenade grip" idea a little but maybe you could make dark side themed pieces and light side themed pieces. I know it would be hard but I'm not sure if everyone has the tools to paint or shape their pieces and it adds a level of impressiveness if they show that off to their friends and say "yeah, I made that". Also, I think it would be a good idea to have a curved hilt section and some that have a slight curve to either give them an ancient look or yet again a dark side look.

Tenric Starkindler

08-14-2006, 07:20 AM

6" or 5.5" main body sections.

what most of the others have said.......

a working RGB switch !

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SilentBob501

08-14-2006, 09:40 AM

Definitely pommels with speaker holes pre-drilled, thats a must.

HiddenMooCow

08-14-2006, 09:45 AM

Oh, wait actually I think before you do any of the things I've said you should get a box or body section that has working RGB switches that are easy to wire up to the luxeon. That would sell no matter what price you put it at. Everyone pretty much wants RGB at any cost. I think it would be a really good buisness move myself.

O-B 1

08-14-2006, 09:46 AM

How about a 45 degree angle joint for the MHS? Anodization, grenade ribbed section, sink knob pommels, pommels with speaker holes, more emitter selections.

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HiddenMooCow

08-14-2006, 09:59 AM

Curved hilts would be pretty cool. I would really like to see some parts that really diversify the way that people handle them. Make a really big difference, like changing the whole shape drastically.

DACOTA

08-14-2006, 10:45 AM

i would like to see a mhs tube but no threads and be the same size as the chrome sink tube and it would be polished aluminum that could slide over current mhs parts so that way you could dremel the tube and slide it over a saber hilt to make the outer part of the qui gon jin saber.

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james3

08-14-2006, 11:24 AM

I understand where xwing is coming from but a graflex style blade holder would rock big time. The way I was thinking of it the first time it was brought up would be to have the s-shroud actually be the part beyond the standard blade holder length so the the "bottom" of the s would be the end of the blade holder and the rest would just be more deco then anything. That way it could be optional to have ears or not. I did a few PVC saber like this one time because I always thought that it had a cool look but the ears would get in the way for a high hold grip.

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Jonitus

08-14-2006, 11:36 AM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by DACOTA

i would like to see a mhs tube but no threads and be the same size as the chrome sink tube and it would be polished aluminum that could slide over current mhs parts so that way you could dremel the tube and slide it over a saber hilt to make the outer part of the qui gon jin saber.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Not to poop in your punchbowl, but you're basically referring to an aluminum tube. Why not buy 1.5" OD 0.035" wall thickness aluminum tubing from onlinemetals.com or something for like 5 bucks a foot?

I mean, I am all for ditching brass sink tubes altogether, but it kind of depends on what Tim can get a hold of, the price to him, and the price to us based on his cost plus overhead. Tim's not one for gouging us on costs, so it all comes down to supply versus demand.

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james3

08-14-2006, 12:13 PM

Poop in your Punchbowl...[:D]That's funny.

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HiddenMooCow

08-14-2006, 12:19 PM

It's not funny when you go to get a cup of punch then BAM it hit's you like... Well a punch.

Do-Clo

08-14-2006, 12:34 PM

What is the matter you don't like chocolate punch[?]

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Darth Frieds

08-14-2006, 12:45 PM

deffinatley an obi TOTS pommel.
Maybe also a crystal chamber section. I'm not sure how the chamber could be designed, but i had an idea for the crystals. They could be made out of acrylic and come in all different colors. They could also be shaped like the crystal on the TCSS logo

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Darth Frieds

08-14-2006, 12:49 PM

I meant Obi ROTS pommel. sorry for that

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Slimer7

08-14-2006, 01:27 PM

I'd be up for what was said here

With the popularity of the sabers, perhaps it's time for a new emitter that looks similar to the emitter on the clan sabers carried by Kit Fisto and others? Similar in looks to the Darth Maul emitter?

Whats nice about these emitters is that they could also be used as pommels as well. I'd also like to see a longer ribbed section and perhaps some graflex clamps

Drewbacca

08-14-2006, 08:34 PM

I don't know if you have a pipe bender available Tim, but it would be awesome if customers could let you know what degree to bend their main hilt section (for a fee of course...those machines aren't cheap). Even a slight bend would drastically change the look of a custom saber.

The Obi emitter and pommel from his EP I saber in MHS form would simply cause me to die.

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Lord Maul

08-14-2006, 08:38 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I don't know if you have a pipe bender available Tim, but it would be awesome if customers could let you know what degree to bend their main hilt section (for a fee of course...those machines aren't cheap). Even a slight bend would drastically change the look of a custom saber.
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great idea. then you could make a dooko hilt with MHS parts

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Strydur

08-14-2006, 08:45 PM

I dont think aluminum would bend with a simple pipe bender..anyone know?

Tim
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Nightwing

08-14-2006, 08:48 PM

The left one is emitter style #2, just there for comparison purposes.

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HiddenMooCow

08-14-2006, 09:04 PM

People would go crazy for anything you put out that we listed strydur. I can't wait to see which ones you do!

Jonitus

08-14-2006, 09:18 PM

Aluminum does bend with a pipe bender...pretty easily too. I'm not too sure of your set up, Tim, but heating the aluminum up with a torch (nearly pure acetylene) will make the aluminum very malleable and can be bent into all kinds of shapes.

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987654321a

08-14-2006, 09:26 PM

how would you bend the aluminum if its about as hot as a soldering iron? you cant have any gloves that are that heatproof!? can you!?!?!?

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Jonitus

08-14-2006, 09:29 PM

You'd heat the aluminum when it's clamped up and ready to bend so you wouldn't need to touch it, and you would remove it only after it has cooled. Aluminum is a wonderful heat conductor, so it would heat up and cool off quickly.

As for gloves, you can still buy asbestos gloves that will resist a great deal of heat. Heavy leather gloves would work fine too.

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987654321a

08-14-2006, 09:34 PM

oh so you would basically bend it around a metal pipe for example, and heat it up and it would retain the shape of it without bending back?

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Jedi-Loreen

08-14-2006, 11:31 PM

I would like to see a couple different styles of bolt-on prongs or claws. I've been wanting to make a Nomi Sunrider saber, like in my Avatar (though it's too small to see), and hers has 4 claws (Sith often seem to prefer 3). I'd like to be able to postion them where I wanted. You could sell them individually, or in sets.

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Drewbacca

08-15-2006, 12:48 AM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Jonitus

Aluminum does bend with a pipe bender...pretty easily too. I'm not too sure of your set up, Tim, but heating the aluminum up with a torch (nearly pure acetylene) will make the aluminum very malleable and can be bent into all kinds of shapes.

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I completely forgot about heating it up. This would actually be a ton cheaper for you Tim (and us I suppose). Clamp it, torch it, bend it, charge for it. [:D]

In fact now that I think about it, I'm not sure a pipe bender would work on such a short pipe. However, you could always get a long one and bend it in quite a few places. Then you'd have to cut it and thread it. Not sure what equipment you've got available in the workshop.
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08-15-2006, 10:16 AM

I would like to see a couple different styles of bolt-on prongs or claws. I've been wanting to make a Nomi Sunrider saber, like in my Avatar (though it's too small to see), and hers has 4 claws (Sith often seem to prefer 3). I'd like to be able to postion them where I wanted. You could sell them individually, or in sets.

I concurr, bolt-on prongs/claws would be awesome - with the option to have the emitter drilled/tapped for 3 or 4 prongs.
Of course, most of the rest of the ideas are good, too.

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DACOTA

08-18-2006, 12:43 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">
Not to poop in your punchbowl, but you're basically referring to an aluminum tube. Why not buy 1.5" OD 0.035" wall thickness aluminum tubing from onlinemetals.com or something for like 5 bucks a foot?

I mean, I am all for ditching brass sink tubes altogether, but it kind of depends on what Tim can get a hold of, the price to him, and the price to us based on his cost plus overhead. Tim's not one for gouging us on costs, so it all comes down to supply versus demand.

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yeah your right i'll do that thanks.

heres a good one hope it was not posted before but how bout an obi wan ep 3 mhs grip grenade section,huh,huh.

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xwingband

08-18-2006, 01:21 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by DACOTA

heres a good one hope it was not posted before but how bout an obi wan ep 3 mhs grip grenade section,huh,huh.

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Only about a dozen times.[:p]

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Nightwing

08-18-2006, 02:25 PM

I'd like to see something along the lines of some kind of grip material made specifically for the MHS. Like a thin cylinder of black grip material that you could slide over the MHS and cut however you wanted. It should be as thin as possible.

What

08-18-2006, 03:26 PM

I liked to see a pommel that sorta ends in a point. I think ive seen someone from the CSS with a pointed pommel, but i think it looks cool.
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08-18-2006, 04:30 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">And to accompany my vague description!!!!!!!!!
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a even vauger picture [:D][:p]

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Enoch

08-19-2006, 03:21 PM

I would say that everyone pretty much hit it on the head...

I'd say some form of quickrelease latch for the doublebladed/seperatable for a more interesting fight....

some form of customizable grip would be kewl...tho it's easy to find elsewhere. I am having some aluminum bent, just a slight few degrees through my coworker.

More diversity in center sections would be optimal...like the british rifle grenade style from ROTS, also some brass fittings would be nice, and I'd second the anodization idea it definately has merit... or possibly chrome fittings too.

Thank you for your time.

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987654321a

08-19-2006, 04:09 PM

maybe you can make a blade holder for the mhs that looks like the ribbed section

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vadeblade

08-22-2006, 02:21 PM

Am I too late to give advice on bending aluminum?

Ahh, who care... I'll give it anyway. So when you bend aluminum tube on a pipe bender (or free hand) the walls collapse and you kink the tube. Solution - you cap one end, pack the tube with SAND, cap the other end. Now bend away. No heating required.

Now about other design ideas. This would be hard but would look and feel so cool - Rounded ribbed section.

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james3

08-23-2006, 06:57 AM

Good stuff vadeblade. I like that suggestion for another ribbed section too[:D]

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08-25-2006, 07:53 AM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by vadeblade

Am I too late to give advice on bending aluminum?

Ahh, who care... I'll give it anyway. So when you bend aluminum tube on a pipe bender (or free hand) the walls collapse and you kink the tube. Solution - you cap one end, pack the tube with SAND, cap the other end. Now bend away. No heating required.

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But I don't like sand...

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08-25-2006, 12:20 PM

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08-25-2006, 02:48 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Jedi-Loreen

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08-25-2006, 08:35 PM

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Corbin_Das

08-27-2006, 03:44 PM

Hi all

Though much of this has already been said, I think you'd sell a lot of:

(1) Speaker pommels (like your Luke FX pommel)

(2) Anodizing

(3) Maybe some sort of view port where you can see the clear optic holder. Since it's hexagonal and clear, it will likely look like a crystal that lights up.

(4) Some sort of emitter prongs might be cool.

(5) A recessed slide switch somewhere on the body.

(6) Maybe a pommel switch for serious dueling.

(7) Perhaps a recharge port?

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xwingband

08-27-2006, 04:40 PM

Ooo... I'd like to echo #7.

Even if it doesn't resolve into a MHS part...I'd definatly like to see some recharge ports. As it is I've been going to radioshack for them. That's just about all I go there for... Perhaps more traditional ones and the small 1/8" or 3/32" mono plugs.

Otherwise I think #1 and #6 would be a good start.

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Do-Clo

08-27-2006, 05:23 PM

I would to see anodizing as an option on the mhs parts, please Tim[:D]

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james3

08-27-2006, 06:43 PM

Recharge ports are pretty easy to do. I just drill it and tap it if need be or use the classic nut and washer deal. Not much different then doing a "decora" LED on the hilt.

Slide switch, well I reckon I am pretty much in the Cobin camp on that one. I have been using slides for a few things now and really love it. Tim's switches are the easiest to install and priced awesomely but again if it is here I can get it here[:D][8D]

[:D]ANODIZING![:D] Yep, I am all for that. I still have not done my "Ultimate" Graflex LED saber cause I would like to use Tim's blade holder because I am afraid that the "other" holder is too big and I will not be able to get Corbin's board and FX sound up in there[:D]

Anyway, all of Corbin's ideas rock but those would be my top three.

FAKE EDIT- Ok yeah, multiple pommels with sound would be nice.

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darthdan

08-28-2006, 12:09 AM

Ah Corbin, with his finger on the pulse of geeks everywhere[:D] Definitely recessed pommel switches or sliding switches, recharge ports and anodizing. MHS main hilt sections without the switch holes to go along with pommel switches would be awesome too.

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Luke-SkyMarcher

08-29-2006, 08:10 PM

Everyones'ideas are great. One thing that wasn't mentioned though, was 1.25" sink tube adapter, or just some various 1.25" stuff. If everyone's ideas are implemened, things will be much, much, more interesting it the gallery.[;)]

-Luke

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james3

08-29-2006, 08:18 PM

Luke, buddy! You and I are thinkin alike, I just posted elsewhere.

http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/sabers/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=164&whichpage=15

It would be nice huh

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JediMcD

08-30-2006, 12:38 PM

I would like to see a main MHS section without the switch hole already machined in it. Just a basic tube that is longer than just the extension piece so that you could place any type of switch wherever you want. I like all of Corbin's ideas as well. I also would like a bigger heatsink for those of us using 5w leds. These could help heatsink those better as well as leds that may come out in the future. I was thinking along the lines of a copper heatsink that fits in MHS and looks like the aavid circular heatsinks. The copper absorbs heat better and is easier to lap. Oh yeah I would like this and this and this etc. Just keep up the good work Tim. I think we could want more new items than an army (oh sorry ambo) or navy of Tims could create.

Jonitus

08-30-2006, 03:56 PM

Not to bash the idea of a copper heatsink, but why simply have a heatsink INSIDE the saber? The heat transferred to the copper heatsink will radiate to the aluminum body of the saber...you're not gaining much. Why not machine a piece specifically for the 5W crew out there? It's gonna be a bigger crew, I can almost guarantee.

A part could easily be machined to adapt to the MHS that would in itself, be a heatsink. Now, for excellent cooling, the heatsink could be a series of rather deep grooves around the hetsink section, creating more surface area to cool the LED. Swinging the saber would be (should be) enough airflow to keep that 5W LED nice and cool.

Nightwing

08-30-2006, 04:02 PM

Would that burn your hands at all?

Madcow

08-30-2006, 04:04 PM

Probably not too hot - it would be noticeably warmer after the saber has been on for awhile - but it's a great idea.

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JediMcD

08-30-2006, 07:19 PM

My idea was to be able to cut openings in the hilt to show off the copper and also as another option of customizing the look of our sabers. You could cut creative patterns in the hilt which behind them would have the finned copper showing through. I think that would look cool, and the air passing through the openings would cool the heatsink. Kind of a dual purpose thing. I am going to work on this myself. I plan on buying an chunk of copper and making a heatsink. If it doesn't work then it will just be a lesson learned. If it works then we have a new option out there. Don't get me wrong jonitus your idea sounds very good too. I just have been working on this idea and would like to see if it even works.

gstealer

08-31-2006, 04:33 AM

How about a neck piece for the hilt?
One that tapers to a smaller diameter, but still allows wire to pass thru.

Note: I had emailed Tim about a custom made one, but cannot afford the price of a one off one right now.

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Luke-SkyMarcher

09-09-2006, 07:21 PM

I was thinking about this some more recently. I got this idea that it would be cool to have some more types of variety in the short sections, i.e., the female-female adapter. For example, one could have a switchbox mounted on it (like a graflex clamp, only MHS), one could be specially made to be a crystal chamber with "vents" in it, one could have that "gear" shape like there is near the bottom of the Obi-wan ROTS, etc. I also like the idea of a neck piece. My brother has been wanting to make himself a Luke ROTJ hilt, but only if the neck is the proper thickness. I know it could be possible for EL, but I'm not sure how you'd work LED out. Also, on the "Grenade" ribbed section - if it were machined, it could be done in the same way as the other one. But if it were a rubber sort of grip, it would have to slide over a much thinner tube (1 1/4"). Either way with pieces like that, you could easily make some pretty close replicas, or at least some very cool MHS sabers.

-Luke

You'll find I'm full of suprises. -Luke, ESB, Anakin, AOTC

Dregan

09-19-2006, 10:29 AM

How about a 4 or 5" main handle, drilled and tapped for a switch? That way you'd have a little more flexability for all the additional "grenade-style" extension tubes that everyone's talking about.

xwingband

09-19-2006, 10:42 AM

double female + extension + machine switch hole option = 5" main hilt section essentially.

Ryma Mara

11-23-2006, 10:58 AM

I see alot of talk about bent hilts and stuff..I dont know what stryder has planned but if he is wanting to get into "pipe bending" they make them in small portable air/hydrolic(sp). I seen them use on on trucks tv but forgot the name and I tryed searching msn but no luck.

xwingband

11-23-2006, 02:01 PM

The MHS is too thin for bending. If he ever did anything it'd have to be like the double adapter, i.e. no guarantee the holes line up.

I can see an angled adapter like what I hear Madcow is working on. Make adapters that slide into j-traps and the like. I think that'd be cool because you'd cut the tube to the angle you prefer.