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ARKM
09-05-2011, 07:39 PM
WARNING: Saltwater etching produces very small trace amounts of non-toxic hydrogen gas (not enough to be of any concern regarding combustibility) and toxic chlorine gas. Do not position your head directly above the glass container while etching, do not inhale said gas and only perform saltwater etching in well ventilated areas such as outdoors. Please don't let this scare you away from doing any saltwater etching. You won't actually notice the gas via smell or sight as the quantities are very minute. Still, proper precautions should be taken.

I take no responsibility for any unwanted damage or effects this process may have on you, anything you saltwater etch or anything you use in the saltwater etching process. Use this tutorial at your own risk.

You do not need to use the same size, shape and type of glass or plastic container, the same size, shape and type of metal for connecting the negative lead to or the same size, type or voltage of batteries/power source and battery holder I used in this tutorial. Mine is but one way to do it. Please use whatever suits your preference or what you have available to you.

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This tutorial teaches basic saltwater etching of non-ferrous metals such as aluminum, brass and copper and is specifically designed more for those in the hobby of custom saber making. However the basics in this tutorial can help with other saltwater etching projects.

Saltwater (or salt water) etching uses saltwater and DC current to etch designs into metal. It is for the most part, easy, fast and affordable to do. You just need several easy to acquire items.

Please keep in mind that there is more than one way to etch metal using the saltwater method, this is just how I do it and hopefully this tutorial will help those wishing to try saltwater etching for themselves. I'm not going to go into the science of how saltwater etching works. I'm just going to explain step by step how to etch saber parts using saltwater.

Here is a list of items needed for this tutorial:

A glass or plastic container such as a flower vase, casserole dish or food container.
Canning/pickling salt.
Tap water (cold).
Four D cell batteries & one four-D cell battery holder or... an adjustable power supply or... a vehicle battery charger that can be set to 6 volts. Note, many vehicle battery chargers will not work for salt water etching. Do some online research to determine which ones will work.
Two alligator clips attached to wires.
Vinyl tape.
Scissors.
A 12" long (or so) piece of metal such as a small flat bar or rod, preferably of the same type of metal as what is being etched.
A hobby knife, preferably with a sharp pointy blade.
Removable full sheet labels designed for use with inkjet and/or laser printers.
Enamel/acrylic based paint (preferable spray paint/primer)
Masking tape designed for painting applications.
Acetone.
Cotton balls.
Rubber gloves.

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Optional items would be a personal computer, a printer, a pen/pencil, a soldering iron, solder, heatshrink tubing, a lighter/match/blowdryer (for the heatshrink tubing), electric oven, foam sanding sponges and a metalworking lathe (the foam sanding sponges and lathe are for paint removal).

When preparing a design to be etched into metal, the first thing one should be aware of is that only bare metal will be etched. Therefore the rest of the metal not being etched needs to be protected by using a "resist". A "resist", when used as an etching term, is a substance designed to prevent the saltwater from etching into the metal. Enamel and acrylic spray paints make for a great resist. Since not all paints are created equal. Some paints will work better than others when used as a resist. Therefore experimentation on test pieces is recommended before moving on to an actual saber hilt piece (I have found that Rustoleum Flat black and Krylon Black primer work well as resists while still allowing easy sticker removal. For this tutorial, I used two coats of black primer followed by 6 coats of flat black). Electrical tape also makes for a great resist which is helpful for when you don't want to paint the entire part. This makes paint removal after etching a much easier process as there is a lot less paint to remove. Please keep in mind when making a stencil that only the bare metal will be etched.

NOTE: If the saber part to be etched is not completely submersed in water, only that which is submersed will be affected by the etching process. If the saber part is to be completely submersed in water, please keep in mind that the positive lead still needs to make proper contact with the saber part and if under water, could cause the alligator clip and the part of the saber that it connects to, to become eroded by the saltwater etching process.

NOTE: It is usually a good idea to apply a resist to the inside of a hollow tube type of saber part, especially if the part will be completely submersed. In other words, it is a good idea to cover the entire inside of the tube with vinyl tape. I have ran several saltwater etching tests and what I have found is that for parts not completed submersed, usually only the bottom edge or the bottom inside area gets eaten away a little bit. For parts completely submersed, a lot more of the inside of a metal tube can be eaten away by the etching process. As such, it is a good idea to tape up the inside.

There is more than one way to make and apply a stencil to a saber part. For this tutorial, I will be using a type of adhesive backed printer paper that is designed to be easily removed. This also allows for any design or image you may have on your computer to be printed out and used as a stencil.

For this tutorial, I will be using a scrap piece of aluminum to be etched instead of an actual saber part. The scrap aluminum is around 1.5" O.D. and 1.25" I.D.

The saber part to be etched should most definitely not have any other saber parts, greeblies or electronics in it or on it. However epoxied-on metal parts should be ok as long as they have a "resist" applied to them or are above the water line.

Step 1:
Attach the alligator clip wires (not the clip end) to the positive and negative leads of the battery holder. Either solder the wires together and use heat shrink tubing on them or twist the wires together and wrap them in vinyl tape.

Step 2:
Prepare the saber part to be etched by removing all dust, oils and contaminents. This can be done with cotton balls soaked in acetone. One should wear protective rubber gloves when using acetone. Please be sure to read and follow the warnings and safety precautions on the acetone container. Be careful not to get any acetone on any paint that is on parts you wish to keep painted. Make sure the part is dry after cleaning.

Step 3:
Draw or print a design onto the removable adhesive backed printer paper. Cut out and remove the parts of the design that will NOT be etched using a hobby knife. You may want to rest the paper on some cardboard when cutting, to help prevent dulling of the blade/damaging of the work area surface. Use scissors or a hobby knife to cut out the outside shape of the design.

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Step 4:
Carefully remove the protective backing from the design. You may need to use the sharp edge of a hobby knife to start the seperation of the protective backing from the paper. Once the backing is removed, carefully apply the design to the saber part to be etched.

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Step 5:
Using painters masking tape, mask off the parts of the saber part that you do not want painted (this can include open ends, threads, switch holes, etc.).

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Step 6:
Now you are ready to paint the saber part but please read the following before you do.

After painting you will need to remove the masking tape and the sticker. However the paint used as well as whether or not the paint was cured by baking the saber part in an electric oven (with the sticker still on the part), can and will, affect how easily the sticker can be removed as well as if it will take any paint off the metal with it when removed. Gloss paint, is a bad idea whether baked or not. When unbaked, removing the sticker will take paint with it. When baked, it's very hard to remove the sticker and the paint chips easily. Flat black works extremely excellent but only if baked. When unbaked, some paint will come off with the sticker. Using primer works great when unbaked and the sticker can be removed after only 5 to 15 minutes after the last coat went on. However primer will not leave as clean of lines as flat black and some of it will disolve during the etching process. However it makes removal of the primer with acetone extremely easy. NOTE: Baked paint is very hard to remove with acetone unless the saber part is completely submerged in acetone for a day or two. See the note in the optional section below for additional information on removing baked-on paint.

Paint the saber part using spray paint or spray primer. Make sure you apply enough coats of paint to completely cover the part. Allow the recommended drying time between coats for the paint being used. Once the paint is dry, remove all masking tape as well as the design sticker.

Optional: After painting, remove all tape and bake the saber part in an electric (not gas) oven at 200 or 250 degrees fahrenheit for one to four hours. The temps and times can vary. Just use whichever seems to be hot enough and long enough to you for the paint to be fully cured. Note: This option will make paint removal in a later step, much harder and is only recommended for those that can sand the paint off using a metalworking lathe and foam backed sanding material.

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Step 7:
Use vinyl tape to cover any unpainted areas you do not want etched. If the entire part was painted, ignore this step. The saber part is now ready to be etched.

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Step 8:
Mix up a solution of cold tap water and salt in the glass or plastic container. For this setup, I used 1 part salt to 4 parts water (i.e. 1.5 cups of salt to 6 cups of water). Stir and mix the salt with the water as best you can before inserting the saber part. There may be a lot of salt build up at the bottom of the container. I often use a cap from a spray paint can to keep my saber parts raised up above the top of the salt.

Step 9:
Insert the saber part into the water and attach the alligator clip that is connected to the positive lead of the battery holder to the saber part, above the water line if possible to prevent the alligator clip from being "eaten away at" by the saltwater etching process.

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Step 10:
Electro-etching is the opposite of electro-plating. When etching metal, the rod or flat bar that you put into the saltwater to attach the negative lead to, will become plated (not necessarily well plated though). As such, that metal will ideally be the same metal as what you are etching, i.e. use a copper rod/bar when etching copper, brass for brass, etc. However this is not necessary, just "ideal".

Insert a small piece of metal (I used a 3/8" dia. aluminum rod for this tutorial) into the container (one that sticks out above the water line) and attach the alligator clip that is connected to the negative lead of the battery holder to the metal, above the water line to avoid metal buildup (plating) to the alligator clip. Rest the metal against the inside wall of the container. If necessary, use some tape to hold it to the side of the glass or plastic container to keep it from falling.
NOTE: The closer the saber part is to the metal that the negative lead is attached to, the faster the etching process will be. Logically, the part of the saber part that will be etched, will etch faster if facing the piece of metal that has the negative lead attached to it.

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The etching process has now begun. You should see tiny bubbles form on the saber part but a lot of them will be coming up from the piece of metal with the negative lead attached to it. If you see them coming up from the saber part instead, you accidentally reversed the polarity.

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Step 11:
Let the part etch until it has etched deeply enough for your tastes. This may involve you removing the leads and the saber part from the saltwater for examination, several times. With my setup using four D batteries, I get a .014" depth in 30 minutes using small 1" designs.
NOTE: The time it takes to etch to a certain depth can vary greatly depending on the amount of water, salt, current and the surface area of the design being etched as well as the surface area/resistance of the metal piece that the negative lead is attached to.

Step 12:
Once your saber part has finished etching, remove the leads and saber part from the saltwater, remove any tape from the part and clean it using warm water and a cloth. Be sure to remove any salt buildup from the inside of the saber part.

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Step 13:
Use cotton balls soaked in acetone (or a metalworking lathe and foam sanders) to remove all the paint you previously applied for etch prepping. Again, be sure to wear protective rubber gloves when working with acetone. Dry off the part when done.
NOTE: If the paint is not coming off easily enough, you may have to submerse the part in acetone for a few days. Since acetone evaporates quickly and can eat through plastic, if you decide to submerse the part, I recommend using a glass (NOT plastic) container and covering it with aluminum foil.

You may have noticed in the pic above, that the etched depressions look a little rough in texture, almost as if media blasted. One way to fix this is by sanding and/or painting. You might also be able to buff the etchings smooth using a rotary tool such as a Dremel with a buffing wheel attachment and buffing compound, depends on the design. If the etched part is sanded or painted AND sanded, it may not look good/smooth unless all sanding was done on a lathe. If you want to paint the etched depressions but do not have a lathe to sand off the paint, I recommend no sanding whatsoever. Instead I recommend a paintbrush and a steady hand (an inverse version of your design stencil could come in handy here to help avoid painting areas you do not wish to paint). For those that do have a lathe, I have provided instructions below on sanding and painting the etched metal. NOTE: Sanding can dull the etched design and make it look weathered. Sand at your own risk.

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The following information involves paint removal from a round, hollow saber part via sanding, using a metalworking lathe and foam backed sandpaper. This infomation also includes steps on painting the etched parts (after the initial paint removal has been completed) as well as removing the paint used in that process from unwanted areas.

Step A:
In relation to Step 13 above; if you do not wish to use acetone to remove any paint, put the saber part in a lathe and sand off all paint using foam sanding sponges. NOTE: Sanding can dull the etched design and make it look weathered. Sand at your own risk.

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Step B:
Remove the saber part from the lathe, dust off any paint residue and mask off areas that you do not want painted.

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Step C:
Paint the saber part and let it dry. Then remove all masking tape.
Optional: After painting, remove all tape and bake the saber part in an electric (not gas) oven at 200 or 250 degrees fahrenheit for one to four hours. The temps and times can vary. Just use whichever seems to be hot enough and long enough to you for the paint to be fully cured.

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NOTE: Steps D and E are to help prevent unwanted paint removal from the etched design.

Step D:
Draw or print the same design that was used for etching, onto the removable adhesive backed printer paper. Cut out and remove the same parts of the design that that were cut out before as well as the outside shape of the design.

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Step E:
Carefully remove the protective backing from the design. Once the backing is removed, carefully apply the design into the etched areas of the design on the saber part.

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Step F:
Put the saber part in a lathe and sand off all excess paint using foam sanding sponges.

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Step G:
Remove the saber part from the lathe and dust off any paint residue. Remove all of the adhesive backed printer paper and it's glue residue, from the saber part. Do not use chemicals to do this as it may damage the paint. You can use your fingernails to get underneath the sticker to start removing it and you can use friction from fingers and thumb as well as a soft cloth (such as a T-shirt or microfiber cloth) to remove the glue.

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That's it. You should now have a painted, etched design on your saber part.

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You should also be able to use this tutorial for etching a design all the way through a piece of metal such as a brass sink tube shroud. I hope you have found this tutorial to be useful. Thanks for reading. :)

Natesroom
09-05-2011, 08:02 PM
Very Cool and informative... thanks ARKM!

Xanatos1986
09-05-2011, 10:24 PM
Very cool and adorable but I can't think of a design... Dang it. This should be sticked

Nick Knight
09-05-2011, 10:43 PM
very very cool. No more trying to cut into it with a old small engraver. Thank you.
Its like electroplating and I think you can with practice get other mettle's to bond in your Saltwater Etching. Copper electroplating is really cool.

http://www.finishing.com/faqs/howworks.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvYCc8F-8rQ

cool way to add new dimension to etching.

Onli-Won Kanomi
09-05-2011, 11:15 PM
This is very cool indeed...thanks for this well written tutorial ARKM.

Silver Serpent
09-06-2011, 07:02 AM
Thank you ARKM, this is a valuable skill to add to a sabersmith's repertoire.

Sunrider
09-06-2011, 11:13 AM
Thanks for putting this here. Good post. Ill have to try this.

ARKM
09-06-2011, 07:45 PM
Thanks everyone. I'm glad you like the tutorial. :)


Its like electroplating and I think you can with practice get other mettle's to bond in your Saltwater Etching. Copper electroplating is really cool.

http://www.finishing.com/faqs/howworks.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvYCc8F-8rQ

Yeah I guess it's the same principle as the rod with the negative lead on it is getting plated from the metal that is coming off of the piece being etched. Since both parts are aluminum, I can't tell if it's plating well though. It still looks the same as it always did, lol.

Mandalorian
09-06-2011, 11:57 PM
Great tutorial. A whole bunch of ideas came into my mind as I was reading this. Definitely will have to give it a try on some newer sabers. Thanks for your time and efforts to bring us this great and detailed tutorial.

cannibal869
09-07-2011, 12:10 AM
neat stuff! A lot of work to get this done, but the end result is quite cool!
thanks for posting this!

dgdve
09-08-2011, 09:14 AM
This was a great read!! (Im really thinking about trying this)

DarkLord2017
09-14-2012, 11:51 PM
Does this work with parts that are powder coated?

Kaide
09-15-2012, 09:53 AM
Powder coating would work like a resist. It should even resist the process better then paint. Although personally I have never tried it, it would be an interesting experiment.

FYI
Powder coating is used on boats to resist the long term wear of salt water.

ARKM
09-15-2012, 12:11 PM
What Kaide said. Only bare metal would get etched.

TheSilverDark
06-02-2015, 11:37 PM
Hi ARKM

I realize this is an old thread but I had a question.

Instead of using salt water could use an acid (ie. Lemon juice, vinegar, etc). And if so your suggestion?

ARKM
06-04-2015, 12:34 PM
There are people who do acid etching and with great results however I personally have not tried it. You don't need electricity with acid etching and the acid commonly used for etching is called ferric chloride. My current method of transferring an image to metal involves using laser printer toner instead of paint but I'm not sure if laser printer toner would work as a resist when using ferric chloride. However paint and clear packaging tape do work as a resist for acid etching. Goodman has an acid etching tutorial over at FX-Sabers.com. Here's the link... http://www.fx-sabers.com/forum/index.php?topic=39721.0 . Please be sure to read the warnings. Safety first and all that.

TheSilverDark
06-04-2015, 02:06 PM
Ah, sorry if I didn't make this clear enough. I am well aware of acid etching methods and I'm staying away from them because I have no way of disposing the acid afterwards :/.

What I was wondering is instead of using salt water as your catalyst or whatever function the salt water does (not sure what to call it :/) could you use another acid. I was doing some extra research and found people used lemon juice,vinegar, etc. I was just wondering if you'd ever tried them.

ARKM
06-04-2015, 03:05 PM
Oh I see. No, I have not read about or tried using lemon juice or vinegar. About the only thing I have tried is adding copper sulfate crystals to salt water. When doing so I found that it eats at the aluminum rather fast and aggressively WITHOUT any electricity being used. Too fast and aggressive with the ratios I used anyways. Perhaps if I use less salt and less copper sulfate I could get a nice etch but it's really not worth the effort as it costs more money to add copper sulfate... but I suppose it's just another option/way of etching.

TheSilverDark
06-04-2015, 04:26 PM
Okay thank you for the advice.

Whi-ja
10-21-2015, 04:50 PM
Thanks, ARKM!!12229
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This is so cool!

ARKM
10-22-2015, 12:13 PM
Thanks. Looks good.

Noyl Wendor
11-03-2015, 12:30 PM
Would the process you describe eat away MHS threads? If I were to submerge lets say an MHS 4" double female extension, I would need to vinyl tape the exposes threads correct?
Could this etching process be used to create a weathered hilt? Use the same process of painting, only instead of a stencil, use an etcher to create marks and wear points.

ARKM
11-03-2015, 01:00 PM
The threads on the MHS double female extension are internal, not external. Therefore if they were not covered there would be minimal to no etching. However to be on the safe side, I recommend that they be taped up. For tubular parts that are to be completely submerged, I tape up the inside of the parts. To do this, I cut a strip of vinyl tape, longer than the part and with one end stuck to the bottom of a fingertip, drop it through the part until it sticks out the other side. I then grab the other end of the tape with my other hand and stick it to the inside of the part. Do this until the entire part is covered on the inside. NOTE: For the very first piece of tape, I usually stick a wire to it (the positive lead for etching) with a decent amount of the wire exposed from it's protective sheath so that the bare wire touches the metal of the inside of the tube. Once the part is all taped up with the wire sticking out from one end, I stick a little piece of duct tape on the inside of the tube, over the part where the wire is (near the end where the wire exits the part) and then add some hot glue around where the wire exits the part. This helps to keep water from getting under the tape. Some water will probably get under the tape where the wire is anyways but won't etch the part.

Yes, this process can be used to weather a hilt but it will be more of a "eaten away"/pitted look and as such may more resemble a saber that has been under water for several years. Remember when making your "marks" that only bare metal gets etched.

rlobrecht
01-05-2016, 07:25 AM
Just saw an Instructable (http://www.instructables.com/id/Heatless-cold-Toner-Transfer-for-PCB-Making/)on heatless toner transfer for PCB etching. I wonder if it would work on aluminum as well as copper.

ARKM
01-05-2016, 01:22 PM
Just saw an Instructable (http://www.instructables.com/id/Heatless-cold-Toner-Transfer-for-PCB-Making/)on heatless toner transfer for PCB etching. I wonder if it would work on aluminum as well as copper.

I use a heated method of toner transfer and it works great for tubular metal, not so great for flat. I'm not sure how well the heatless method works but it's definitely worth looking into, especially if it helps with toner transfer to flat metal. Thanks for the link.

Ty_Bomber
02-02-2016, 05:40 PM
I'm trying this out for the first time and curious. Could I use my spare TCSS smart charger at 7 volts for this application in leiu of a d cell battery holder?

Silver Serpent
02-03-2016, 07:36 AM
I have no idea how your smart charger will react to being used as a power supply. I doubt you'll damage the charger, but you may get poor results with the etching.

Darth Vislir
02-03-2016, 08:38 AM
That's a good way to trip your breakers.

rlobrecht
02-03-2016, 11:08 AM
From what I've read/watched, a lot of battery chargers won't work for etching because they don't get the right current draw and the full battery/protection circuits shut down.

ARKM
02-03-2016, 02:31 PM
I use an old 6V/12V car battery charger set to 6V. It trips all the time but resets after a few seconds on it's own so I can walk away and it will still do the job. A lot of the newer ones however will trip and stay that way until you unplug it and plug it back in. If your TCSS smart charger doesn't work, you can always Google PCB etching and you'll eventually find info on a current model of car battery charger that will work.

Aziara
12-22-2016, 02:36 PM
This is very informative, nice to know there are options that don't include using dangerous acids (I was so worried I'd accidentally spill it somehow and put myself in the ER).
Will this work on a chrome-plated brass sink tube? I'm thinking of etching deep enough to actually let the brass show, which I think would be a very nice look. May make it too thin and weak, but I figure it's worth a try. It looks great in my head, ha ha.

ARKM
12-23-2016, 12:13 PM
I've had that same thought but have not tried it. As such, I have no idea how well chrome will etch.

Aziara
12-23-2016, 06:45 PM
Well, I suppose I'll have to try it. Not like it's much of an investment to give it a trial run.