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cannibal869
12-22-2010, 12:03 AM
Hi all,

Yes, I know the topic has been talked about before, but that was regarding the small plasma ball and the crackle tube...

Here's something I just found on evilbay and just wanted to give you guys a heads up.
I'm going to try to incorporate this into a future build (as a crystal chamber power source), since this form factor seems to be a little more up our alley, so to speak...

I present to you a Pilot 5" plasma tube...

box
http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/cannibal869/Lightsabers/plasma1.jpg (http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/cannibal869/Lightsabers/plasma1.jpg)
dissected item
http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/cannibal869/Lightsabers/plasma2.jpg (http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/cannibal869/Lightsabers/plasma2.jpg)
and a small movie of it in action
http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/cannibal869/Lightsabers/th_plasma.jpg (http://s882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/cannibal869/Lightsabers/?action=view&current=plasma.mp4)

Anyhow, just thought you guys might find this interesting.
As far as I can tell, the unit comes with fifteen 1.5V coin batteries all wired in series (22.5V?!??) Going to have to do a little more testing since this is *supposed* to be able to run off of the 12V car battery...

-C

(sorry I know the pics are a tad big)

Oh and dimensions of the tube are something like 5 inches long x maybe 1/2 inch diameter?

Azmaria Dei
12-22-2010, 12:25 AM
that's awesome! i can't wait to see how you integrate that into a saber. when you test it with various power sources let us know the results! ^_^

oh and just a recommendation... put it in a staff.

dgdve
12-22-2010, 04:17 AM
its super long in my mind.. but I would absolutely KILL if they had a 3x 0.12 version... then you could sneak it BESIDE your crystal and the effects together would be freaking sweet... I see good things, so I'll be watching this

cannibal869
12-22-2010, 11:56 AM
Hey all,

Yes, in the pics it looks like the tube is whited out. In real life, it looks a bit more like the old plasma ball effect except you have only one "lightning bolt" extending from the end. I tried to focus the movie in on that end so you could see it. The tube itself I think is an inner glass tube coated in an iridescent material, probably to help bring out the different colors, which you can kind of see better in the reflection off of the brown bathmat ;) One problem with it - after it's been on for a few seconds, it kind of "normalizes" out - meaning you don't get as much of the undulating effect, unless you touch the tube. I'll have to see what happens when it's inside a hilt, but I'm hoping that the effect will be ok...

Yes the tube *is* long and I'll have to try some experimentation to see how this is really going to work out. Maybe something more like a saber with a choke in the midsection to allow adequate spacing?? I've already got a design that I think I'm going to have to modify a bit to actually get everything in there that I want.

I too would prefer something in a 3 inch long form factor, but heck this beats the 1.7 inch ball that we were discussing earlier. At least I *know* this can fit inside a hilt and probably inside the MHS choke section. The only caveat is that once this is in, the saber will probably be more of a showpiece than something you can actually duel with. :(

Battery solution will be... interesting to say the least..... I may have to invent something.

-C

cardcollector
12-22-2010, 10:25 PM
Staff woul be easy, just use 3 crystal chamber MHS pieces, and some adapters...

cannibal869
12-23-2010, 11:02 PM
Hi all, just some updated pics:

Better representation of what the chamber looks like when lit:
http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/cannibal869/Lightsabers/plasmatube.jpg (http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/cannibal869/Lightsabers/plasmatube.jpg)

and size comparison with MHS parts:
http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/cannibal869/Lightsabers/plasmatube3.jpg (http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/cannibal869/Lightsabers/plasmatube3.jpg)

-C

Loachri MacTalabh
12-31-2010, 09:54 PM
You have a good idea! I think it will work out nicely. Can't wait to see what you come up with.

cannibal869
01-01-2011, 01:20 AM
quick update - the tube works with 3 14500 Li-Ions.

Azmaria Dei
01-01-2011, 02:24 AM
that should fit well into a slotted long choke 3... have you tried putting it inside of any MHS parts yet?

dgdve
01-01-2011, 06:03 AM
quick update - the tube works with 3 14500 Li-Ions.

Interesting.. but then thats a difficult battery solution (I guess) except for a staff

cannibal869
01-02-2011, 02:33 AM
Interesting.. but then thats a difficult battery solution (I guess) except for a staff

Nope not at all.... you'll see... hehehehe....
;)

EDIT:
teaser pic....

http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/cannibal869/Lightsabers/hokuto7web.jpg (http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac29/cannibal869/Lightsabers/hokuto7web.jpg)

Akir
02-10-2011, 08:24 AM
Is there any chance of a saber blade as such?
As in having the entire blade a plasma tube, for display purposes obviously.

Jedi-Loreen
02-10-2011, 10:25 AM
Yes, it's been done.

http://www.futurehorizons.net/saber.htm

http://www.amazing1.com/plasma_fire_saber.htm

Sunrider
02-10-2011, 06:39 PM
Thanks, the future horizons site is good for a couple laughs. :D

oobie doobie kedoobie
02-10-2011, 07:54 PM
Yes, it's been done.

http://www.amazing1.com/plasma_fire_saber.htm

does anyone actually own one of these because it looks interesting but seems like it would shatter if you dropped it or accidently whacked it on something

Sunrider
02-10-2011, 08:00 PM
does anyone actually own one of these because it looks interesting but seems like it would shatter if you dropped it or accidently whacked it on something

Yes you don't see many anymore because they break or broke. :( Leds are much better for a blade.

oobie doobie kedoobie
02-10-2011, 08:04 PM
ya i figured that'd be the case but they look really nice...the hilt isn't very cool but the blade does look good

Jedi-Loreen
02-10-2011, 08:27 PM
I have seen people put those kits into their own sabers though.

I have a friend who used to costume as Qui-gon, and he did that with a Qui-gon hilt he had made. This was in 2003, before the LED saber "revolution".

It was only a show saber, for when he was at conventions.

It was sure a lot brighter than the EL sabers around him a cons.


Thanks, the future horizons site is good for a couple laughs. :D

And dangerous ideas, holy crap :shock::


"This is a very powerful and shock sensitive explosive. Once dried, simply dropping a feather on it can set it off! If dilluted and formed into balls, it makes a great substitute ammo for paint ball guns."

I didn't include the name of the compound in that.

Sunrider
02-10-2011, 09:20 PM
I have seen people put those kits into their own sabers though.

I have a friend who used to costume as Qui-gon, and he did that with a Qui-gon hilt he had made. This was in 2003, before the LED saber "revolution".

It was only a show saber, for when he was at conventions.

It was sure a lot brighter than the EL sabers around him a cons.



And dangerous ideas, holy crap :shock::


"This is a very powerful and shock sensitive explosive. Once dried, simply dropping a feather on it can set it off! If dilluted and formed into balls, it makes a great substitute ammo for paint ball guns."

I didn't include the name of the compound in that.


LOL. It says the jet pack is good for an altitude of 7000 ft. :-o:-o

I think you would run out of gas about then.:lol:

Azmaria Dei
02-10-2011, 10:14 PM
LOL. It says the jet pack is good for an altitude of 7000 ft. :-o:-o

I think you would run out of gas about then.:lol:

maybe they mean 7000 feet straight line... not altitude... but then again, if you run out of gas, that's your own fault for not keeping an eye on your gas level. i can see that being extremely dangerous.

also, Sunrider, did you ever get my PM? i don't remember which forum i sent it to you on now... here or FX or JSS...

Sunrider
02-10-2011, 10:18 PM
Sorry I just replied.


The jetpack is roughly 100" wide and 48" tall. It is powered by two 36" ducted, 4 bladed fans. The engine is a Rotax 503 and the fuel is Premium Unleaded gasoline. The maximum speed is 50 mph and it's range is about 50 miles. Maximum altitude is approxiamtely 7,000ft above sea level. It consumes 3 gallons of fuel per hour (it's maximum amount of fuel you can store in it). The empty weight is about 150lbs. and it's useful payload is about 205 lbs. Our prototype unit is currently being redesigned and is still under development. Flight testing should begin soon. Pricing has not yet been determined but will depend greatly on insurance concerns so we are unable to make an estimate of the retail price at this time. We will have videos posted as soon as the testing is complete. :shock:

http://www.futurehorizons.net/FLJP_lg.jpg

Skottsaber
02-11-2011, 04:13 AM
Didn't the Mythbusters completely kill that thing?

Azmaria Dei
02-11-2011, 04:22 AM
i emailed you sunrider.

and yeah, tht picture looks like a really bad photoshop job. especially since i've used fan casings in equipment that look just like those fans strapped to him...

cannibal869
02-11-2011, 02:26 PM
Seriously? WT* people... get your own thread ;)

Sunrider
02-11-2011, 03:01 PM
Sorry. Don't give up on your sound board jamming devise. btw :razz:

vctrsone
02-14-2011, 11:20 PM
Sorry I just replied.


The jetpack is roughly 100" wide and 48" tall. It is powered by two 36" ducted, 4 bladed fans. The engine is a Rotax 503 and the fuel is Premium Unleaded gasoline. The maximum speed is 50 mph and it's range is about 50 miles. Maximum altitude is approxiamtely 7,000ft above sea level. It consumes 3 gallons of fuel per hour (it's maximum amount of fuel you can store in it). The empty weight is about 150lbs. and it's useful payload is about 205 lbs. Our prototype unit is currently being redesigned and is still under development. Flight testing should begin soon. Pricing has not yet been determined but will depend greatly on insurance concerns so we are unable to make an estimate of the retail price at this time. We will have videos posted as soon as the testing is complete. :shock:

http://www.futurehorizons.net/FLJP_lg.jpg

there is a REAL new zealand made hover pack in its pre-production stages. its called the martin jetpack. It has a 200bhp 2.0ltr v2 engine.

heres the link to the youtube vid.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtI1GP147Cs
and yes its a REAL JETPACK!

Skottsaber
02-15-2011, 09:19 AM
Seriously? WT* people... get your own thread ;)
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Azmaria Dei
02-15-2011, 03:42 PM
Sorry. Don't give up on your sound board jamming devise. btw :razz:

i second that. ^_^ maybe you can make one powerful enough to take down a computer. ^_^

Matt Thorn
04-18-2011, 07:14 PM
Cannibal, that plasma tube is sweet, and it seems more practical for sabersmithing than the 2" diameter Pilot Automotive Thunder Ball Plasma Pendant (IP-140PL) I got last year and have yet to do anything with. Does the tube have a clunky transformer? The transformer mine came with is almost 2"x1"x1". :???: Pilot's newer "Thunder Ball Mood Light" (IP-139PL) seems like a more compact version of the same product.

cannibal869
04-18-2011, 11:39 PM
Cannibal, that plasma tube is sweet, and it seems more practical for sabersmithing than the 2" diameter Pilot Automotive Thunder Ball Plasma Pendant (IP-140PL) I got last year and have yet to do anything with. Does the tube have a clunky transformer? The transformer mine came with is almost 2"x1"x1". :???: Pilot's newer "Thunder Ball Mood Light" (IP-139PL) seems like a more compact version of the same product.

LOL thanks my friend - this project is slightly on the back burner since I think I need to make the hilt out of PVC for this to be a feasable build. And yes, the newer mood light looks like something I may have to investigate, especially if that transformer is smaller, which it appears to be ;) Good find!

I hope all is well with you - you're still in Japan?

-C

Matt Thorn
04-19-2011, 12:39 AM
LOL thanks my friend - this project is slightly on the back burner since I think I need to make the hilt out of PVC for this to be a feasable build.
Well, yeah, the parts immediately surrounding the tube could not be metal. I'm thinking of 3D-printing in a non-metal medium at Shapways.com.


I hope all is well with you - you're still in Japan?
Thanks for your concern. My part of Japan (Kyoto) has not been directly affected by either the tsunami or the nuclear meltdown, but the whole economy has taken a serious blow. This is certainly the worst thing that's happened to Japan since the bombing of Nagasaki. I did a charity auction here in Japan of an ANH Obi-Wan I made (and which I gave the corny name of "A New Hope") that earned 71,707 yen (about US $870) for the Japan Red Cross. Here are photos (https://picasaweb.google.com/littlenemo1905/HUAiaE?feat=directlink) and a video (http://youtu.be/BJYZ8bgiwcU).

swear000
12-27-2012, 12:18 PM
That is a nice plasma tube. Hopefully, someday science will someday allow plasma to function under standard atmospheric conditions. Do lightsabers work underwater?

cannibal869
12-27-2012, 05:19 PM
Holy necro-post!

In answer to your question, yes underwater sabers have been built before.

-C

Revan
03-11-2014, 10:38 AM
I would love to get a chance to incorporate one of these in a saber. probably for display only. 96629663

Star Bird
05-03-2014, 10:40 AM
I would love to get a chance to incorporate one of these in a saber. probably for display only. 96629663

THAT would be a sick crystal chamber !

RavenXp
05-04-2014, 11:46 AM
Indeed. Maybe surround the globe with several thin quartz crystals, add an accent LED to the base of those crystals inside a 3 window MHS extension. Would make a pretty sick display saber.