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acerocket
12-19-2010, 10:39 AM
Un-named Copper and Brass saber
(I will leave the naming up to the eventual owner)

What can I say. It's copper and brass. If you look real close, you might see a vague family resemblence to another saber or two. ;) This is also my first ever saber with a sound board (and a CF at that).

I based the design on an overall theme and tried to work a few different elements of that theme into the design. I keep a spare parts tote filled with old circuit boards and computer parts. I broke down a couple drives and thought the stators looked like radial engines. The pommel is designed to look like an old, vintage radial aircraft engine/cowling. The front shroud bears a similarity to a jet engine cowling. Near the middle of the saber, I have some removeable panels with grooves in them to simulate the look of corrugated aircraft panels. I also used one of the stators to make a blade plug out of with what looks like the spinner from a turbine engine or propellor hub.

For the crystal chamber, I wanted to do something that didn't look like you would need to call the Mario Brothers to work on the plumbing. I decided to go 'all electric' with this one. I have a couple of pieces of old computer circuit board on either side of the speaker mount. On those, I soldered some wires just for looks. The main crystal is a piece of Red Phantom Quartz from Tibet. Is is pretty much clear except for some purplish phanton hazing inside near the base. I have read that the Sith would make their crystals and that they were not natural - this crystal screamed man-mad to me when I saw it. The crystal sits off center of the saber because I wanted it to. The 5mm LED for the Crsyal, and 4x 5mm LED in the pommel, are tied into the main LED so they mimic what the blade is doing flicker wise.

Surrounding the crystal/electric chamber, is a piece of copper mesh and a brass outer shield. Topping this off is a brass covertech button. Moving up to the middle section, there are two momentary push button switches and a recharge port. There are very tiny custom switch nuts and buttons for the switches (which were heavily modified Radio Shack pieces) and a custom kill key cap. These are meant to look like power nodes or something along those lines. The removeable covers are held on with four 0-80 screws. I chose slotted screws to mimic aircraft 1/4 turn fasteners. There is also a brass collar with some very small engraving on it. In the Sith Profecy font, I engraved "FEAR LEADS TO ANGER ANGER LEADS TO HATE HATRED LEADS TO POWER POWER LEADS TO VICTORY." I also have some coil looking rods that pass from the collar back to the mid section. These are stainlees steel springs with 28 gage red enamaled wire wrapped along side the spring windings.

The jet engine cowling shroud has an internal structure with 29 1/16" holes drilled in the front and 10 1/16" holes drilled in the back. The front holes are purely for looks, but in the back holes are 1/16" od stainless steel tubes running back to a brass ring. I even heated the ends of the stainless tubes to give a weathered, burnt look to them.

In the front, there is a removeable blade plug that was made similar to the TCSS unit but I made a brass press in section and sandwiched another stator between the plug end and a spinner. It lights up quite nice when in the saber.

Tuning the saber was a real nightmare. Because the CF is near the center of rotation, I had to really mess with the setting to get the swings and clashes to work well. That meant running wires back and forth and soldering a half dozen connections each and every time I made a change. Unfortunately, the design of this saber precludes easy access to the SD card.

I went a lot of different directions than I normally do on this saber. Usually when I do a saber, I have the entire design down and know exactly how everything will fit together before I ever start machining. With this saber, I just started with the pommel and went from there. I machined a few parts, then looked at them and decided what the next part would look like. That makes changes very hard to make, but I like how it came out. There is a ton of subtle detail in the saber. In the pommel, there are two pieces of stainless steel screen. The larger one that you can see in the pictures of the pommel pieces and a smaller one that is under the smaller stator part that is already mounted into the pommel plug (had to glue it in because I kept dropping it on the ground). These screens have been heated with a torch so they have some bluing around the edges to simulate having been heated. I also tried to make sure there were no large sections of just plain round body (the exception being in the choke area). In the crystal/elecrical chamber I have two circuit boards. On the top one (crystal side) there are 20 small gage wires soldered to the board and passing through the bulkhead. I made a custom stainless steel mount setup for the crystal and heated it with a torch to give it a nickel color (didn't want to go entirely blue on it so I kept the heat low). On the bottom circuit board, I have two larger gage wires and eight small gage wires soldered to the board and passing through the bulkheads at each end. The wiring gives it an more usefull look as opposed to just a bare board mounted there. (the bottom board also hides the speaker). There are other small details and such scattered over the saber. You really have to see it in person to find all the subtleties I tried to include. I wanted something elegant and understated, not a saber with a Vegas neon sign attached to it. I like the way the mesh turned out on the grip. I originally had some finer mesh that allowed a better view into the crystal chamber section, but it was so soft it just mashed itself in my hands. I went to the heavier mesh and you have to look to see the crystal chamber detail - it's not hard to see (it just doesn't yell 'look at me'). But when the saber is on, it is really easy to see.


Specs:
Copper, brass and a little aluminum construction
Plecter Labs CF 2.5 upgraded to 4.X
Korriban and Vader (from Madcow), Blackstar and Ancient saber (from Novastar), and Starkiller and Sidious (from LDM)
2 x 16340 Li-ion cells
2W rectangular speaker
Recharge port with custom kill key
LEDengin 10W RRRR
Red Phantom Himalayan Quartz
Rumble motor
4x T1-3/4 LED in pommel

Video:

http://s726.photobucket.com/albums/ww266/acerocket/Kegger/saber/?action=view&current=100_7075.mp4

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iamdrake
12-19-2010, 11:02 AM
.............. <--- speechless!!!!

Strydur
12-19-2010, 11:39 AM
Awesome..just awesome....and rad.. and cool..

Darth Enab
12-19-2010, 11:58 AM
:shock: Wow. Just...wow.

cannibal869
12-19-2010, 12:12 PM
I posted this over at FX too, but it deserves to be said again -

this is one of the nicest most intricately designed and well executed sabers I have ever seen!
Bravo!

*THIS* is when saber making gets elevated to an "art"

-C

JRD1
12-19-2010, 01:42 PM
Wow!!!

ARKM
12-19-2010, 01:48 PM
Very cool.

cardcollector
12-19-2010, 02:14 PM
http://zizouandbecks.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/mike-wazowski.jpg

Sunrider
12-19-2010, 02:18 PM
It looks better each time I see it. I'm so jealous of your metal work. It's perfect. :)

JamoUp
12-19-2010, 03:12 PM
I think it looks excellent. Well crafted.

Knighthammer
12-19-2010, 03:20 PM
http://zizouandbecks.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/mike-wazowski.jpg
x2
Amazing work....

RevengeoftheSeth
12-19-2010, 06:11 PM
That is absolutely amazing... My jaw dropped to the floor as soon as I opened the post. I love copper and brass, and that is top-notch!

Kastor
12-19-2010, 06:41 PM
Wha... Wha... I... I don't even know...


Fantabulous!

Azmaria Dei
12-19-2010, 09:09 PM
awesome. simply marvelous. and amazing. it's... awemazinglous!

where do you attach the blade though?

Doc B
12-19-2010, 09:41 PM
Seriously, it needs to be said again; this is a beautiful piece. The attention to details, such as the etchings on the mid-section, make this stand out even more than its gorgeous design would already. Now, admittedly, I'm a sucker for copper, but even so, this is breathtaking.

Jedi Yar-Nala
12-19-2010, 10:54 PM
Ace... that is sooooooo beautiful... words can NOT describe this one....

It just became one of the best sabers I've ever seen made.

Great job!!!! :cool:

MooseStuff
12-19-2010, 11:38 PM
This could be put on display in a gallery.

bk_renesis
12-20-2010, 12:21 AM
I cannot express my thoughts about this saber without swearing profusely... So I'll just say... Absolutely amazing... I'm going to look at it again...

J73sport
12-20-2010, 04:28 AM
Your work has been, and continues to be an absolute inspiration to myself and everyone who has the fortune of viewing it. . I can’t stop looking at all the attention to detail. It’s hypnotizing to look at. Truly a remarkable piece of work

dgdve
12-20-2010, 04:29 AM
ehh what kind of shoddy junk is this?? (Man I gotta step my game up... super sweet Ace super sweet)

Eomund
12-20-2010, 09:31 AM
Amazing! The speaker/crystal chamber setup is inspired. And the level of intricate detail on this piece is astounding.

Crystal Chambers
12-22-2010, 06:36 PM
Wow!...A fine example of top notch design/machining. It reminds me of the killer penny style/back story in how some of the parts were salvaged from an abandoned sith layer...perhaps from this sith.

Sloda Foade
12-22-2010, 09:36 PM
WOW!!!!! No that doesn't do it justice
4726

Excellent work...looks like a jet engine.

vctrsone
01-09-2011, 05:48 PM
I make brass and copper light sabers...and this.....well this is the level of quality and finish that I aspire to reach in my own builds...eventually......

/supports BRASS & COPPER saber builds!!

brett
02-27-2011, 08:40 AM
Well, when you are a fan of certain hobbies, cars, say, or restored machines, anything, you do end up with one particular model that feels the most connected to your own tastes, to what inspires your enthusiasm and joy. In light sabers this, for me, is it.
The connection to aircraft, 30's to 50's feel, just, well... it is like waking from a good dream and still being able to see it, solid and real. Thank you for sharing something to keep me going on those harder, less inspired days.

jin starkiller
02-27-2011, 12:48 PM
very awsome build .....looks again jaw drops again.......love the copper ...very cool

Boj-Vaati Mau
03-02-2011, 11:44 PM
Excellent metal eork & crafting. I love the jet intake/exhaust look of the pommel & emitter. This is one of the best looking Steampunk sabers I've seen. The other was by Gordon Smuder of TVTV.

acerocket
05-03-2011, 07:21 PM
Never updated this thread. Our very own Tim is the owner of this saber now. I am glad to see it went to a good home and I hope he enjoys it (or frames it and hangs it on his wall).

Tarrell
05-03-2011, 10:05 PM
Veey sweet saber, just love it

hebert466
05-04-2011, 03:57 AM
Lllloooovvvveeee iiiitttt!!!! (he says as his jaw hits the floor so hard that others think there is an earthquake)...lol

Skottsaber
05-05-2011, 04:32 AM
Now we need pics of Tim wielding her!

dgdve
05-05-2011, 05:53 AM
Ace you are the ONLY one who could possibly produce a true custom work of art for the man who (HANDS DOWN) has helped so many of us "chase the dream". A more deserving owner could NOT have been chosen were the saber to make its own choice.

@ the Boss... We dont say it enough but:

Thank You Tim!, for helping us chase the dream.. for allowing us(as a community) to grow and thrive on the forums and for indeed helping us to attain the ability to get our very own "un-named saber"

Eco
05-06-2011, 10:04 PM
Oh. My. Goodness.
This is by FAR one of the coolest sabers I have seen in a LONG time. It's just ***y.
I love the little details, like the wire wrapping on the pommel.

Corbin_Das
06-08-2013, 02:31 AM
Old thread, I know......but it's been a while since I've been here.


I love the detail. Something about brass and copper sabers. LOL

madmaxx
06-08-2013, 05:45 PM
i was scrolling through the comments thinking blah blah hurry up get to the saber already..then BAM! holy S@#T this thing is a true work of saber art.i dont think i can find fault with it at all except it isn't in my collection!..well done very well done

Lord Dottore Matto
06-09-2013, 03:11 AM
If you look at Corbin's sig, you will see the saber from which it draws it's heritage...the Killer Penny.

Ripper
06-24-2013, 02:55 PM
O__0 OMG, I will never feel like I made a Nice saber again. This is like the Krispycream donut or custom sabers!!!

MrCafe
06-25-2013, 12:43 AM
Yip. keep looking at this thread and still can not believe what I am seeing. Tim get all the best works dammit, glade it is in a home that will love it the most.

Derro Kuspin
01-02-2016, 04:29 AM
I really don't want to be a grave digger - but this thread is definitively worth being dug out time and time again...
I'm a noob to sabersmithing and working on my first saber, so I'm browsing all the threads containing pictures of custom sabers to look for inspiration... ...and - Wow! - this saber brings a whole sh...tload of inspiration! Marvellous design and perfectly executed! I figure, you have your own CNC-mill? I only work with the common low tech-setup: Dremel, power drill and a bunch of files and sand paper. So I could never achieve this level of perfection - but I can definitely use the inspiration! ;)
Congrats on this wonderful piece! I envy Tim for being able to wield it...

CET
01-02-2016, 11:05 AM
Personally, I don't mind thread necromancy, some stuff deserves to be brought back up. This is one of them. Gorgeously executed work of art.

darth_chasm
01-02-2016, 11:23 AM
I've looked at this before...quite a few times...for hours and never had anything to say. Still don't. And that's a good thing ;)

Speachless

Darth Vislir
01-02-2016, 09:02 PM
In awe :shock:

Twigz
01-02-2016, 09:23 PM
Super awesome! I love the crystal chamber.

hapki
01-03-2016, 05:43 PM
How does that rectangular speaker sound? I have a couple speakers that look similar, but I haven't hooked one up to a board yet. Does it give a clear sound?

Avidgrant
01-08-2016, 04:50 PM
So- this is my comment cherry. I have to say- beautiful design, very radial engine-ishy- which is cool. Looks like it might fit in the rocketeers hand if I didn't know any better! I do have a serious question..... How fast does she go? ;).
Seriously- awesome- very awesome!


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