Physical differences between Spst push on push off switch vs push on/off mom switch?

[tankhog]

It only sounds like a stupid question ! I just got my second order in the mail today (yay!) and I'm confused about the switches. I ordered the mom switches this time, and while it's different than the push on/push off switch from my first order in my reasoning I think I got them mixed up?

I'm aware the function of each type of switch, but the actual action and appearance of each type is what I'm curious about.

Switch 1 (supposed to be push on push off ) has only one position, you press it, it clicks, and it's back to where it was. Also, the only physical difference is the button post is smooth.

Switch 2 (supposed to be push on off mom switches) has a definate off and on position - press the button, it clicks and stays depressed, click again and the button rises just like a pen. In physical appearance the button post has vertical lines evenly spaced around it.

To me if I didn't know any better (which I obviously don't!) I would think that the first switch is momentary switch, while the second is actually the push on push off switch?


I hope this makes sense to someone else!

And if I'm right about it I can't use them with the 2010 economy hasbo boards ?

[xl97]

without pics..the second 'sounds' like a latching one to me.. (since it stays in a physically different on/off position)..

the first sounds like it may be a momentary TACTILE switch?

[Silver Serpent]

It does sound like your first is momentary, and the second is latching. The best way to tell is to pull out your multimeter, and check the switch for continuity. If it only makes connection while the button is depressed, you have a momentary switch. If it remains either on or off each time you click the button, you have a latching.

If you don't have a multimeter (you should get one if you don't), you can make a simple circuit with a battery, your switch, and some kind of visual load. A lightbulb, small motor, etc.

[Solan Starr]

I believe he's asking about the two switches:
Push on/push off switch with black button (http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/Push-onpush-off-switch-with-black-button--P40.aspx)

and

SPST Push on/off - Mom switch with black button (http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/SPST-Push-onoff-Mom-switch-with-black-button-P44.aspx)

They are both described at "latching" in their respective item descriptions. I've used several of the push on/push off, however, I have just received my order of SPST Push on/off - Momentary switches, so I cannot tell you if they will work with the Hasbro boards. The item description for the SPST Push on/off states:
"SPST Push on/off - Momentary switch. This switch works as a normal latching on/off switch with one difference. When off you can lightly press to momentarily turn on. When latched on if you accidentally tap the switch it won’t momentarily flash off."

[Jay-gon Jinn]

To answer the question regarding if you can use either of them with a 2010 Hasbro board: The first one, no. The second one, probably, but you'd be better off to use the palin momentary switch instead. The latching/momentary switch works better with MR/Hasbr Force FX boards for the reason stated in the description....if you bump the button while the saber is on, you won't have the effect of "power cycling" the MR board, which means that the power up sound will play again, and restart the saber.

[Skottsaber]

but you'd be better off to use the palin momentary switch instead.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1237687/TCSS%20Posts/palin%20switch.jpg
:p

[Solan Starr]

LOL, nice. I was wondering if I was the only one who caught that. She seems genuinely excited about her new line of switches.

[tankhog]

Yes I am referring to both switch type options with the 'build your own led kits' from the store. So neither of those is what I should be using?

And I think you meant 'plain'? As in this switch?
Spst momentary with black button - http://www..com/SPST-Momentary-switch-with-black-button-P43.aspx

And unfortunatley pictures are irrelevant as they are virtually identical down to the stamping on the back

[Jedi-Loreen]

The push-on-push-off mom switch actually does work like a momentary, if you just press it lightly, not hard enough to actually latch. What I like about using these for a resistor driven, or FX board set up, is that if you bump the button when it's latched, the LED, or board and LED won't turn off momentarily.

I and a friend of mine asked Tim several years ago to carry that switch for that very reason.

With the regular push-on-push-off latching switch, it will turn off the LED if you bump the button while the switch is latched.

But for an econmy Hasbro board, you're better off using a normal momentary switch that doesn't latch.