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HiddenMooCow
07-13-2006, 12:26 PM
I keep seeing people installing crystals into their saber hilts, so my question is how/where do you mount the crystal into the sink tube and what do people do to make it show up? Do you simply cut small rectangles all around the hilt around the area?

xwingband
07-13-2006, 12:38 PM
It all depends on the hilt. Most will probably place them mid hilt and above the batteries as that's where the visual dictionaries placed them.
I have seen most commonly a "nipple" like on the Luke ROTJ saber or washers that hold the crystal.

Sometimes they can't even be seen from the outside though. You'd need to protect it if you did it if you made it visible. I'd look at Madcow's creations in the gallery and what I did recently.

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vadeblade
07-17-2006, 09:58 AM
Hi,

I have been getting emails and PM about how to make a crystal mount or maybe if I can machine one for them (sorry, no longer able to).

I do have a sugestion though. TCSS actually already has something that could be a crystal mount that would probably fit perfectly in a MHS.

I am suggesting people consider the LED mount/heatsink sold by TCSS turned upside down.
http://www.geocities.com/projectstm/temp/sledholder.jpg
http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/sabers/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=88
It looks similar to the crystal mount I used (named the "nipple" style by xwingband). Bit of hotglue or epoxy and it would hold a crystal quite nicely.

Cheers
-V

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james3
07-17-2006, 10:22 AM
Dang vadeblade, that's a good one. That's one of those things that we are all sitting here smacking our heads thinking "Duh! why didn't we think of that."

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vadeblade
07-17-2006, 11:16 AM
Thanks,

Here is how I was thinking of using the LED mount/heatsink. Three possible methods. Obviously there are other methods too.

http://www.geocities.com/projectstm/temp/crystal_holder.jpg

No. 2 - the Crystal is not lit by the Lux. The LED is pointing up to light the blade. Crystal kinda hangs under.

No. 3 would be a Dual lux idea, Long screws and spacers would be used to sandwich the crystal between heatsinks.

Cheers,
-V

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james3
07-17-2006, 12:16 PM
I started digging through my parts that haven't been packed yet to see if I had an extra blade holder to drill out and play with. I may just have to go back to a design I was working on and put on hold. The wiring holes are even already in there so you don't really have to worry much at all. Again, that's the kind of thinking I just find so fasinating, to look at a part that we use all the time and come up with something else is just awsome.

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GFORCE13
07-18-2006, 12:21 AM
vadablade great designs, I hadn't even thought about any of these yet.[:)]

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Ambo
07-18-2006, 02:20 PM
Thought: Quick dremel work to remove the outer ring will make the "crystal holder" a bit cleaner......





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darthtigger
08-21-2006, 02:41 PM
Where would someone get these crystals?

Shade
08-21-2006, 02:45 PM
I think you can pretty much find them in every souvenier(sp) shop but just google it and you can find the crystal

Lord Maul
08-21-2006, 05:37 PM
or you could ebay it DT
ebay is the answer to all where do i get this questions[;)]

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Firebird21
08-21-2006, 07:16 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Lord Maul

ebay is the answer to all where do i get this questions[;)]
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Well that explains a lot!

Have you read your Thread Index (http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/sabers/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=577) today?
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08-21-2006, 07:24 PM
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Firebird21
08-21-2006, 07:39 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by james3

When Firebird is here it is certain I will http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e370/Dadof3/icon_rofl2.gif<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">


Please James, I'd prefer you chose a different Smiley, one that made us look a little less...http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_gay2.gif


Might I suggest this one... http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_spit.gif

No... That one could also be misconstrued...



Let me ding into my Snitz here...


There's this one... http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_ices_rofl.gif


But no animation is rather boring.

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Cheap.



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Not any better...


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That one's mine...


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http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wtf2.gif Where'd that one come from???


Wow! Prvt. Pyle!



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Well James, I guess you're Snitzed!

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Lord Maul
08-21-2006, 07:58 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Wow! Prvt. Pyle!



It's your Mom!!!

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stop bringing back privite pyle firebird, that died a month ago and it should stay in the grave[xx(]

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james3
08-21-2006, 08:06 PM
Prvt Pyle, you have been called out BOY!

Now be a good lil private and get us some popcorn...


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Firebird21
08-21-2006, 08:09 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Lord Maul

stop bringing back privite pyle firebird, that died a month ago and it should stay in the grave[xx(]<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">


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Lord Maul
08-21-2006, 09:58 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Now be a good lil private and get us some popcorn...
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you forgot about the Dr. Peppers but that doesn't matter, the answer still is get it yourself james

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darthtigger
08-27-2006, 07:15 PM
I know I can google or ebay, but the trick is the keyword. I think I should be looking for quartz, but I'm not sure. I see in the results, some stupid sites talking about the healing powers of different stones. If I try "Saber Crystals", I get a lot of sites concerning KOTOR. Just a little overwhelmed with all the sites that don't give me what I was looking for. Maybe a suggestion for TCSS to start selling? Make it kind of a one stop shopping store?

Just my 2c worth.

WeirdoTransvestite
08-27-2006, 08:34 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Private Pyle

stop bringing back privite pyle firebird, that died a month ago and it should stay in the grave[xx(]
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Stow that bellyaching Private Pyle!

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Lord Maul
08-28-2006, 12:46 AM
stow it yourself weirdo! i am NOT getting you guys one thing [:D]

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vadeblade
08-28-2006, 10:20 AM
Key words I used on ebay: quartz lot arkansas brazil point
key words for Exclude: beads watches

different combination of the above gives different results.

Here is an example result from ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Neat-quartz-lot-from-Arkansas_W0QQitemZ160024189337QQihZ006QQcategoryZ3 226QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Cheers,
-V

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Lord Maul
08-28-2006, 10:36 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160023009521&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr4_PcY_BID_Stores_IT&refitem=160024189337&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=active_view_item&usedrule1=StoreCatToStoreCat&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget


that same guy is selling this, look at how it is cut. that would look great in a crystal chamber

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Madcow
08-28-2006, 02:51 PM
Not to toot my own horn...
I'm testing the market to see if saber builders want these.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=002&item=120025563787&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1

I've talked to Tim about this too. I can get basic quartz crystals but it would up the price...

Advice?

MC


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xwingband
08-28-2006, 03:13 PM
The problem as I see it is... were builders. I know how simple that is so I went ahead and did it myself.

No offense, you'll probably get a few sales from a narrow audience, but not the saber building group as a whole. I loved the idea though as I've already gone ahead and made mine.[:D]

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Lord Maul
08-28-2006, 09:36 PM
that crystal chamber looks good MC. i would get it but i don't have any saber that it would look cool mounted on [:(]

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vadeblade
08-29-2006, 03:35 PM
I had a bunch of really nice crystals that were perfectly clear like the one Lord Maul found on ebay
but I found perfectly clear ones did not look that good in my lightsaber design.
It specially did not work when shining a light into it as the light passes right through.

I found that crystals with imperfections like bits of rock or cracks gave more raw, unmanufactured, and pulled from a cave look.
I even intentionally crackled some of the clear crystals I had so the light would bounce around inside (apply heat and cool rapidly in water).


Look for places that sell crystals in lots, bags and pounds. $18 for one crystal is kind of pricey.
How about $5 for a one pound bag of crystals?
http://www.arcrystalmine.com/wholesale.html

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Madcow
08-29-2006, 11:06 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by xwingband

The problem as I see it is... were builders. I know how simple that is so I went ahead and did it myself.

No offense, you'll probably get a few sales from a narrow audience, but not the saber building group as a whole. I loved the idea though as I've already gone ahead and made mine.[:D]

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Not to worry - I was hoping to inspire the builders here, AND sell to the newbies. I've sold 4 or 5 so far (can't remember).
Give and take right - I can't count how many good ideas I use that started right here.

Cheers!

MC


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WeirdoTransvestite
08-30-2006, 09:44 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by vadeblade

I found that crystals with imperfections like bits of rock or cracks gave more raw, unmanufactured, and pulled from a cave look.
I even intentionally crackled some of the clear crystals I had so the light would bounce around inside (apply heat and cool rapidly in water).
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Even the crystals apparently need a "diffuser". Be careful with that heat & cool thing, you can split the crystal in half.

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darthtigger
08-31-2006, 05:49 PM
Thanks guys. You've been a big help. Now I can figure out where to get my crystals. Thanks again.

joe104
10-09-2006, 11:29 PM
wow you can actually mount thos crystal to make them work i didnt know that

Ambo
10-10-2006, 07:58 PM
Maul?....is that you?......nooooo....it couldnt be.....maybe related?http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i313/AmboAW/Smilies/banghead.gif

Lord Maul
10-10-2006, 09:02 PM
i haven't done that crap for a while ambo, give me a break already, i'm actually trying not to bost a ton of bs

987654321a
10-10-2006, 09:48 PM
your trying your best not to post bs??? wtf you are helpful in answering some questions but others, you might now have enough experience to answer but you answer anyways, and say something similar to bs

WeirdoTransvestite
10-11-2006, 06:18 AM
Countdown...You grew up. I'm so proud. :)