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Superblond
10-04-2010, 05:47 AM
Hi & Hello forum from germany!

I am new to this forum and I start (as usual) with a question...
and I apologize for my poor english :-/

I bought (did get it yet) a parksaber with the following specs I know:
- LED-Strip technic (red)
- blade up / down effect
- flickr effect
- 3V 1600mAh battery

Now I want to add low-budget sound solution, f.e. the Haspro sound board.
Is there a better "cheap" sound board option?

I couldnt find any tutorials about this issue.
Can anyone help and give sme advice?

Thx a lot
Superblond

jin starkiller
10-04-2010, 06:00 AM
at the moment the hasbro 2010 with dvd toy sabers are the cheap soundboard alternatives

here is a link to the thread telling you how to hook it up

http://forums.thecustomsabershop.com/showthread.php?t=10288&highlight=2010

good luck and welcome

Skottsaber
10-04-2010, 06:02 AM
Well firstly it depends on which parksaber you got.
I can't tell if you are wanting to convert it with the LED Strip, or with a Luxeon LED.

Some of the hilts would require some machining to be able to fit everything in.

Superblond
10-04-2010, 07:44 AM
Damn ! You guys are fast responding!!! Thanks!

For you experts maybe a blasphemous thought:
Why not put a sound board complete disconnected from the build in LED circle as standalone electric component in the hilt?

I just thought that I can get around all this volt/ampere/resistors and converting problems between the build in circuit and the sound board.

The only point of connecting the sound board and the light "board" would be the default switch... if they use the same voltage and/or ampere.

So press switch = start sound board && start LED !?

Is that to simple & stupid?

Thx for helping me out.
Superblond

Silver Serpent
10-04-2010, 07:53 AM
You can use a single DPDT switch to activate both boards simultaneously. The cheapy Hasbro board uses a momentary switch, so your Parksaber would need to use a momentary switch as well. If one uses a latching and the other uses a momentary, things would get a little more complicated.

Not impossible, just complicated :)

Superblond
10-04-2010, 08:17 AM
Well firstly it depends on which parksaber you got.
I can't tell if you are wanting to convert it with the LED Strip, or with a Luxeon LED.

I will get the one withe LED-Strip.

Skottsaber
10-04-2010, 08:27 AM
Yes I realise that, what I mean is do you want to KEEP it? Or put an LED like most of us use here?

I fear that you may just be planning to put in a soundboard and leaving it at that. This will probably not work as most parksabers do not have enough room, let alone enough for a speaker.

Superblond
10-04-2010, 12:09 PM
...do you want to KEEP it? Or put an LED like most of us use here?

Ahh ok... now I understand your point!

Yes you're right. I want to keep the LED-Strip (for now) and add a sound board.

I think all of the parksabers have a momentary push-button.

I guess I understood that I have to use
- a sb with momentary switch
- a voltage regulator and/or transistors!?

Regardless of the "enough room"-problem, can I then combine a sound card -lets say the cheap haspro 2010- with a saber, driven by a 3.0 volt accumulator?

Sorry for beeing such a n00b :roll:
Superblond

Skottsaber
10-04-2010, 12:20 PM
OK well it MIGHT be possible, which parks are you getting?

Superblond
10-04-2010, 02:14 PM
I will get the Star Wars Darth Vader ROTJ Deluxe (s. attached pics)
- machined Aluminum
- with removable 36" long blade (phase)
- red light, LED-Strip (w. 96 LEDs?)
- function: lights up, down, phase/flicker
- no sound
- i read somewhere, because of the small camera accu. battery - CR123 there should enough room for a sound module ...?

Ronan
10-04-2010, 06:55 PM
You can use a single DPDT switch to activate both boards simultaneously. The cheapy Hasbro board uses a momentary switch, so your Parksaber would need to use a momentary switch as well. If one uses a latching and the other uses a momentary, things would get a little more complicated.

Not impossible, just complicated :)

Errr i use a latching switch with my cheap hasbro boards...

Silver Serpent
10-04-2010, 07:55 PM
Ronan, are you using the 2010 Hasbro saber with DVD? I'm looking at my Obi-Wan right now and it's got a momentary switch.

Lord Dottore Matto
10-04-2010, 09:38 PM
I will get the Star Wars Darth Vader ROTJ Deluxe (s. attached pics)
- machined Aluminum
- with removable 36" long blade (phase)
- red light, LED-Strip (w. 96 LEDs?)
- function: lights up, down, phase/flicker
- no sound
- i read somewhere, because of the small camera accu. battery - CR123 there should enough room for a sound module ...?
That saber is easily convert-able. I should know because I am the one who does all korbanth conversions. ;) For what you want to do...what is your plan for power? CHeck my section at Fx-sabers (LDMCustomsabers) and you will see a few of them converted.

Superblond
10-05-2010, 06:28 AM
That saber is easily convert-able.
That is very good to read!


For what you want to do...what is your plan for power?
I really don't know. I learned, that the saber uses 3v battery - CR123. But I don't know how many are used and whether parallel or series-connected !?:confused:

Can you give me a advice?

Thanks
Superblond

Superblond
10-05-2010, 01:03 PM
Hi,

can anyone identify this (http://s366.photobucket.com/albums/oo102/alter289/) sound module ?

I guy with nick "alter289" has obviously add a sound board to a park saber.

Is this one a ready-made sound module, I mean ready to use, plug-and-play item?

Thx
SB

Lord Dottore Matto
10-05-2010, 08:25 PM
That is very good to read!


I really don't know. I learned, that the saber uses 3v battery - CR123. But I don't know how many are used and whether parallel or series-connected !?:confused:

Can you give me a advice?

Thanks
Superblond

You are right it uses (2) CR123 in series. 6V and takes up most of the space. This is why the saber must be converted. 6V CR123's do not provide adequate amperage to run a SB for any legit amount of time. I said it is easily convertible, but what i meant is that it is easily convertible for someone who professionally converts sabers. This will be a challenge for you if it is your first conversion, but just know that it is definitely possible.


Hi,

can anyone identify this (http://s366.photobucket.com/albums/oo102/alter289/) sound module ?

I guy with nick "alter289" has obviously add a sound board to a park saber.

Is this one a ready-made sound module, I mean ready to use, plug-and-play item?

Thx
SB

That is a custom machined sound module. THat fellow must have either made it himself or had it made. Those pictures are pretty old too, but they don't show the soundboard at all and they are of an old Parks EL saber.

Ronan
10-05-2010, 09:37 PM
Ronan, are you using the 2010 Hasbro saber with DVD? I'm looking at my Obi-Wan right now and it's got a momentary switch.

Yes i am. The anakin one.

Already mounted in a lightsaber, its been around 2 month now. TCSS Latching switch used.

Works great.

Switch used: http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/SPST-Latching-Guarded-switch-with-red-button-P256.aspx

Superblond
10-06-2010, 03:17 AM
You are right it uses (2) CR123 in series. 6V and takes up most of the space. [they] do not provide adequate amperage to run a SB for any legit amount of time.

What could be the better option for a battery pack with 6 volt, smaller and more ampere? What is the recommendation, I mean the reference from you experts?

Can I use the (small?) Hasbro 2010 (DVD) Sound board (get it out from the toy saber) beacause it uses 6v (4 x 1.5 AAA) ?
Is there a smaller sb that can be used?


I really really like to take the challange and check my skills...!?

Thanks you for your help!
SB

Jedi-Loreen
10-06-2010, 08:57 AM
Hi,

can anyone identify this (http://s366.photobucket.com/albums/oo102/alter289/) sound module ?

I guy with nick "alter289" has obviously add a sound board to a park saber.

Is this one a ready-made sound module, I mean ready to use, plug-and-play item?

Thx
SB





That is a custom machined sound module. THat fellow must have either made it himself or had it made. Those pictures are pretty old too, but they don't show the soundboard at all and they are of an old Parks EL saber.
That actually looks like an old Lightech Industries sound module that is no longer being made. It has a threaded piece added to it.

These sound modules are completely self-contained, they have their own power source. But you had to turn it on separately, though someone could probably make it work with a single switch for both it and an LED lightsaber.

These sound modules were made for the older tech EL sabers, so they couldn't run on the 9V batteries that EL sabers used. I never thought these sounded that great, anyway, too "electronic" sounding, not like a "real" lightsaber.

I have one of these modules that I never put into an EL saber. Mine is just the sound module itself, without the metal sleeve with the switch and audio output jack mounted on it.

Mine has been sitting in a drawer, forgotten, for 8 years. I came across it again a couple years ago and it's not working right, the sounds aren't "normal" and they occur randomly. I tried new batteries, and it didn't help. So, even though I had good intentions for it, it ended up being a waste of the $55 I paid for it back in 2002.

I found a fairly recent posting by someone who has used one of these, if anyone is interested in reading about it and seeing more pics of the sound module itself:

http://apfoister.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=propel&action=print&thread=5301 (http://apfoister.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=propel&action=print&thread=5301)