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Chuber
07-06-2006, 08:28 PM
Hi... You know me... i m the guy from Argentina that is always making questions... and i know what are you thinking now: What is he going to ask?... WRONG! I want to to share with you some pictures of my last experiment. I ve been reading the forum and i take a few ideas for the blade diffuser. So i went to a shop that sells plastic bags, papers, and that stuff and bought some 'cellophane' (i think that's the traslation, here we call it "papel celofán"). I spent 1 peso, for you U$D 0,30.
This is what i get: (This is the first time i post pictures... i hope you can see them...)

The cellophane:
[IMG]http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/2892/saber0040rg.th.jpg (http://img380.imageshack.us/my.php?image=saber0040rg.jpg)[/img:2da8f88a48]

Inseted into the polyC tube (it's an acrylic tube):
[IMG]http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/4854/saber0054dy.th.jpg (http://img385.imageshack.us/my.php?image=saber0054dy.jpg)[/img:2da8f88a48]

I didn't wire my luxeon led yet, cause i don't have a heatsink nor the bladeholder, so i used this little "led laser" toy...:
[IMG]http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/3934/saber0039pu.th.jpg (http://img277.imageshack.us/my.php?image=saber0039pu.jpg)[/img:2da8f88a48]

And finally... this is what i get:
[IMG]http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7587/saber0014bi.th.jpg (http://img195.imageshack.us/my.php?image=saber0014bi.jpg)[/img:2da8f88a48]

Pretty good for that kind of led, and the blade has no mirror on the top...
I think cellopahne makes a good diffuser...
Good luck!

Chuber
07-06-2006, 08:29 PM
If you want bigger pictures... i can post them...

Do-Clo
07-06-2006, 08:40 PM
Bigger pictures would be a big help these are a little too small to see much detail.

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james3
07-06-2006, 08:54 PM
Right Lord Do-Clo is. Bigger pics we must have.

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Chuber
07-06-2006, 09:05 PM
Here we go again... Bigger pictures... Now i ve learned:

The cellophane paper:
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/3287/saber0049ax.jpg

Into the acrilic tube:
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7942/saber0055xz.jpg

The tinny toy i used to illuminate the tube (it is a mini led laser, i think it uses the smallest led, a 3w i suppose):
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2130/saber0030xy.jpg

The tinny toy again:
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7927/saber0025vk.jpg

And finally, the result:
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7595/saber0012gn.jpg

What do you think?
Remember: i m using a 3w led cause i don't have my heatsink and bladeholder yet, and there is no mirror on the top... Imagine the results with the luxeon led and the mirror... I'm too excited!!!

Do-Clo
07-06-2006, 09:19 PM
Much better the blade looks pretty good with the mirror installed it should blalance out the blade nicely.

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luis rojas
07-07-2006, 08:14 AM
Hola Chuber. Yo estoy usando también papel celofán como difusor pero si pongo dos hojas enrolladas se ve mucho mejor que con una o con tres. ¿cuantas estás poniendo tu y de que dimensiones?
Saludos desde Peru.

Hi Chuber. I'm using clear wraping paper (celophane) as a blade difuser but I get the best result when I put two films instead of one or three. How many are you using? and what are the dimensions of them?
Bye

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O-B 1
07-07-2006, 10:12 AM
Try scratching the cellophane diagonally with sandpaper or similar abrasives. It should work a bit better. I noticed you were using an acrylic blade. Would that change anything?

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Chuber
07-07-2006, 12:01 PM
Hi Luis... I m using just 1 paper. I bought just 1 for the experiment... do you say taht it work better with 2? i 'll try this and then i 'll tell you.
The other thing: OB-1: i m using an acrilic blade because that is what i could get... The polyC tubes are more expensive and coludn't find anyone to sell me. This tube i have, has the same dimenssions the one Tim sells.
Bye...[:)]

Chuber
07-07-2006, 12:04 PM
Ah Luis i forgot the dimmensions: it is 95 cm x 95 cm... almos a meter x a meter...

In spanish: Hola Luis... Estoy usando 1 film de casi 1 metro x 1 metro... voy a probar con mas de una hoja...
Chau!!!

GeluKhanGharr
07-16-2006, 11:21 PM
You might find these threads useful [;)] :

http://thecustomsabershop.com/sabers/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=454
and
http://thecustomsabershop.com/sabers/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=689

Particularly the second one - I posted some comparison pictures there between different kinds of diffusers. My polypropylene diffuser is made from what you call celophane. Good luck!

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Lord Maul
07-17-2006, 09:33 AM
is your blade wider at the base than at the tip or is that just the effect of the cellophane

Chuber
07-17-2006, 12:36 PM
I think it is just effect of the camera... the blade is an acrilic tube.

luis rojas
08-03-2006, 06:34 AM
Hi today I make some test with 3 clear mylar sheets and It works great, as soon as I get pictures I will put them. I tried to sand one of the sheets but the efects is very poor I prefer to put 3 clear sheets. As soon as I put the pictures you will see what I'm talking about.

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luis rojas
08-05-2006, 02:45 PM
Hola tal como te decía los mejores resultados se obtienen con tres hojas de celofán. Mira las fotos de comparación con las de Master Replicas.MIra como se ve apagada con este toque metálico.

The best results that I can get are with 3 sheets of clear gift wrapping paper. Take a look at the comparisson pictures.You can see the "metallic" touch that it has when is not ignited. Bye

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http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/7372/dsc06546iz8.jpg
http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/7207/dsc06528my7.jpg




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Lord Maul
08-05-2006, 02:50 PM
the metallic touch is sweet [:D][^]

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HiddenMooCow
08-05-2006, 04:08 PM
I have to say that the 3 layer gift wrap paper is the greatest diffuser I have ever seen, I actually first thought it was an MR and not only doesn it not have a single dim spot it even has a mettallic off look. Nice job but one thing I want to know is that did u have a mirrored tip of a regular one without a mirror or any other diffuser besides the gift wrap?

xwingband
08-05-2006, 05:09 PM
The Blue is an MR... The green still looks good though. Films are nice that they give that metalic sheen.

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luis rojas
08-06-2006, 07:18 AM
Hi HiddenMooCow. I only use a stainless steel disc that I cut and sand myself to reflect the light. I think taht a mirror will be a better tip but I can´t get one of those so easily.

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HiddenMooCow
08-07-2006, 07:16 PM
Well, would a mirror be a lot more fragile though?

Lord Maul
08-07-2006, 08:03 PM
i don't think so. plenty of people duel with ultra's sabers which have mirrors in them and they don't break. a mirror won't be as strong as steel but it would be strong enough

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Madcow
08-07-2006, 10:40 PM
Once secured inside the blade glass mirrors are solid. I haven't found anything that can beat them. Apparently there is a semi-transparent reflective film - I haven't tried it yet.

I do reccomend scraping the grey hard stuf off the back of the mirror. This lets some light through for the tip without sacreficing the reflectivity-ness.

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GFORCE13
08-07-2006, 11:10 PM
What I used because I lost the tip off of corbins custom blade and all I had was a standard tip so I used the mirrored film you use for your house windows(Home Depot,Lowes) it bounces the light back but still lets some of it through to light the tip.

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HiddenMooCow
08-08-2006, 02:06 PM
Heh, I wonder what it would be like if glass at the tip shattered then rolled down the inside of the polyc blade and started cutting and scratching the diffusser of film, that would suck.

Lord Maul
08-08-2006, 04:00 PM
when it broke you would hear it so you would stop dueling immediately

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HiddenMooCow
08-08-2006, 04:51 PM
Yeah but I doubt if you weren't expecting it and you had your saber up or diaganal that your would react faster than the gravity pulling downt he glass.

Chuber
08-16-2006, 06:33 PM
Hi Luis... Great results... I am finishing my first saber... It will be a Vader replica.
Now i' m searching a nice tip to use. I was thinking in modelling it myself from an acrilic stick.
Instead of mirrors i tried aluminium paper (the one that is used in cooking stuff) and it work fine. It's very cheap and easy to install.

Lord Maul
08-16-2006, 07:16 PM
or you could use the reflective tape tim sells, it is right below the mirrors

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Lord Maul
11-21-2006, 05:32 PM
i was tryin to do that cellphane thing but i hit one dilemma. i couldn't roll the stuff and slide it in without screwin it up. how on earth are ya supposed to get this stuff up into the blade?????????

Madcow
11-21-2006, 05:34 PM
Get a wood dowel (hardware store), and roll the stuf around it - then slide it into the blade.

MC

Lord Maul
11-21-2006, 05:37 PM
how big of a dowel should i get and won't the cellophane just stick to the dowl and not come off?

Madcow
11-21-2006, 06:09 PM
My dowel is 3/8 " I think. The film unrolls itself from the dowel when you turn it, after sliding it into the blade.

You'll see.

MC

Lord Maul
11-21-2006, 10:03 PM
thanks a ton MC

Ros
01-02-2007, 04:10 PM
has anybody tried to use colored cellophane as a diffuser?

Ryma Mara
01-02-2007, 04:48 PM
the thing about that is you got to figure how much transparency is it gonna have.

Ros
01-02-2007, 05:02 PM
right...but clear seems to work really really well. which leads me to believe that colored cellophane would have a similar effect...and then you could use a white LED, which seem to be the brightest, and still get a colored blade. makes sense in theory.

i might just have to try it....but so far it's been tough stuff to come by. i'm doing an internet search now....but i hate waiting for stuff to ship...

Ryma Mara
01-02-2007, 05:09 PM
Well price wize its cheaper (actually free) if you just email LeeFilters for a free swatch book.

xwingband
01-02-2007, 05:43 PM
Yeah, other than it being colored when off it really doesn't make a difference. Whether filtered by the LED or later it's still filtered.

Be aware too of the color. It will always look different when lighted.

darth blaze
06-25-2009, 09:01 AM
where can i find cellophane paper and how much do i use?

Jay-gon Jinn
06-25-2009, 11:13 AM
It's not paper, for one thing...it's clear plastic gift wrap...and there are several topics that cover this....but one in particular is this one:
http://forums.thecustomsabershop.com/showthread.php?t=7274
The gift wrap can be found at stoeres that sell arts and crafts supplies like Michael's, Dollar Stores, and yes, even Wal-Mart.