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DianaG
08-26-2010, 05:15 PM
I am a new bee on here and I was wondering what parts in the store part of this web site would I need to make an Obi Wan saber from the ROTS movie? I am not too good with a dremel drill because of my hands being stiff... so I don't know what cutting I would have to do on it.

If I can't make that one what parts do I need for the version in "A New Hope"?

I would want to make the electronics to light the blade up for now... no sound as of yet.
Thank you...

DianaG;)

FenderBender
08-26-2010, 05:59 PM
You should play around with the MHS builder on the front page of the store. Basically you need a MPS pommel style 3 V2, MHS gear, 2" extension, ribbed/grooved choke combo, and BH style er.....8.

You can start with the kit for electronics for simplicity. No dremeling required, though some creative painting for the different color parts or powdercoating will be. You need to get a Graflex replica clamp or the new switch box depending on what version you are making. Then you need greeblies for the side (transistors etc) Good luck and welcome!

DianaG
08-26-2010, 07:22 PM
DEar Fender Bender,

Thank you for the information . I read the tutorials on how to put the electronic parts together for the light up part for the blade and the battery compartment. I can do some soldering if my hands don't shake too much while holding the soldering iron. I have a feeling I am going to have to make the one from "A New Hope." as the version I had seen for the younger Kenobi hilt on the Lightsabers from the yellow box site had a lot of cutting in the sink pipe, and the way my hands are, I won't be able to do that I fear. I would like the younger Obi Wan kenobis version but if I can't do it I wont waste time and money getting the parts.

I do have a few more question tho.

!. what is powdercoating, and do they offer it as a service on here?

2. What is the graflix replic clamp? And what is the switch box?(Sorry, I am new at the terms for the parts for this! I usually see them being used on the screen and not in my hand.)

3.What is a greeblie ? is it like a small screw or bolt for decoration, and the button to hold the saber on your belt??

4.Is the MHS gear the electronics part for the lightsaber blade to light up? (P.S. opps I went on the saber maker and I found out what the MHS gear is and it's not the electronics part!)

thank you for reading this!

DianaG

FenderBender
08-26-2010, 07:44 PM
DEar Fender Bender,

Thank you for the information . I read the tutorials on how to put the electronic parts together for the light up part for the blade and the battery compartment. I can do some soldering if my hands don't shake too much while holding the soldering iron. I have a feeling I am going to have to make the one from "A New Hope." as the version I had seen for the younger Kenobi hilt on the Lightsabers from the yellow box site had a lot of cutting in the sink pipe, and the way my hands are, I won't be able to do that I fear. I would like the younger Obi Wan kenobis version but if I can't do it I wont waste time and money getting the parts.

I do have a few more question tho.

!. what is powdercoating, and do they offer it as a service on here?
Yup, Tim does a great job at powdercoating at a reasonable cost.

2. What is the graflix replic clamp? And what is the switch box?(Sorry, I am new at the terms for the parts for this! I usually see them being used on the screen and not in my hand.) For the New Hope version, the saber had a protrusion about midway down that was part of a clamp used on the Graflex flash guns that were used for the Luke New Hope saber. The Obi Wan saber had one as well. There are replicas of this clamp that are out there that are cheaper to get than vintage ones. It simply "clamps" around the saber. A lot of people also use this area to tuck away the switches used for turning on the saber. For the New Hope version you will also need a bubble strip, for the ROTS version you will have to do some hunting for a laser cut card.

3.What is a greeblie ? is it like a small screw or bolt for decoration? Exactly;) I would do some googling for images of the saber you are trying to replicate and get all angles, it will clarify the things that Im telling you.

4.Is the MHS gear the electronics part for the lightsaber blade to llight up? The Gear section is an MHS part (from the store) that loosely replicates the booster section on the Obi Wan sabers between the pommel and clamp.

thank you for reading this!

DianaG

Answers are in red. Like I said, do some googling on images of the saber. I would also look at Partsofstarwars.com and it will explain what WAS used originally. It will give you a better idea of what things are. Then, play with the MHS builder and get a feel for how things will go together. There should be little to no dremeling on an Obi style saber, MHS parts screw toghereether so easily. Just do some more reading here and plan your build well. We're here for help if you get stuck.

edit: Here are some pics of a VERY nice MHS based Obi Wan to help you see what you'd be striving for.


http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/SNeiswender/Lightsaber%20Pictures/CFv5%20Obi%20Wan%20MHS/th_Photo0647.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/SNeiswender/Lightsaber%20Pictures/CFv5%20Obi%20Wan%20MHS/?action=view&current=Photo0647.jpg)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/SNeiswender/Lightsaber%20Pictures/CFv5%20Obi%20Wan%20MHS/th_Photo0646.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/SNeiswender/Lightsaber%20Pictures/CFv5%20Obi%20Wan%20MHS/?action=view&current=Photo0646.jpg)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/SNeiswender/Lightsaber%20Pictures/CFv5%20Obi%20Wan%20MHS/th_Photo0648.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/SNeiswender/Lightsaber%20Pictures/CFv5%20Obi%20Wan%20MHS/?action=view&current=Photo0648.jpg)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/SNeiswender/Lightsaber%20Pictures/CFv5%20Obi%20Wan%20MHS/th_Photo0650.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/SNeiswender/Lightsaber%20Pictures/CFv5%20Obi%20Wan%20MHS/?action=view&current=Photo0650.jpg) The clamp. The bubble strip is lit by accent LEDs on this one. The gear/booster section is to the right.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/SNeiswender/Lightsaber%20Pictures/CFv5%20Obi%20Wan%20MHS/th_Photo0649.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/SNeiswender/Lightsaber%20Pictures/CFv5%20Obi%20Wan%20MHS/?action=view&current=Photo0649.jpg)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/SNeiswender/Lightsaber%20Pictures/CFv5%20Obi%20Wan%20MHS/th_Photo0651.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/SNeiswender/Lightsaber%20Pictures/CFv5%20Obi%20Wan%20MHS/?action=view&current=Photo0651.jpg)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/SNeiswender/Lightsaber%20Pictures/CFv5%20Obi%20Wan%20MHS/th_Photo0656.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/SNeiswender/Lightsaber%20Pictures/CFv5%20Obi%20Wan%20MHS/?action=view&current=Photo0656.jpg)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/SNeiswender/Lightsaber%20Pictures/CFv5%20Obi%20Wan%20MHS/th_Photo0655.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/SNeiswender/Lightsaber%20Pictures/CFv5%20Obi%20Wan%20MHS/?action=view&current=Photo0655.jpg)

DianaG
08-27-2010, 10:04 AM
Oh yeah!!!!

That helps me a lot!!!!

Thank you for the pictures and I have written dow the parts list as to what I need...will take me some saving to do it and I may have to buy it in parts but it will be worth it!

I will be looking for the clamp, bubble strip and some greeblies for it...I have some knurled nut and bolts for a Obi Wan saber I was going to make from the Big Yellow Box and I will save those for the this saber.

Will be looking for the bubble strip and the graflex clamp today!

DianaG

xl97
08-27-2010, 07:13 PM
you can export/save your build form the MHS Saber Builder App.

(so you can post for people to review or put it in your footer or something)..


it also has the option of having the PARTS LIST for you.... (in the Builder app).. as well as the ability to transfer it ALL to the store for check out.. or saving to wishlist...(whatever)


just an FYI..

(plus a shameless plug for more people to use the builder app.. since its pretty pimp)

(wink wink)

Sairon
08-28-2010, 12:40 PM
you can export/save your build form the MHS Saber Builder App.

(so you can post for people to review or put it in your footer or something)..


it also has the option of having the PARTS LIST for you.... (in the Builder app).. as well as the ability to transfer it ALL to the store for check out.. or saving to wishlist...(whatever)


just an FYI..

(plus a shameless plug for more people to use the builder app.. since its pretty pimp)

(wink wink)

Of course remember that the MHS app price count won't include your led and optics and such. And extra stuffs, all it is is the metal parts.

DianaG
08-29-2010, 07:52 AM
Of course remember that the MHS app price count won't include your led and optics and such. And extra stuffs, all it is is the metal parts.


thank you for the info Sarion!:D

Fender bender....

I am just going to start getting it as I can and what my budget will allow month by month and go from there. I am bidding on a pair of lightsabers on ebay right now so I can have one that is just the hilt but this one I want to build to be functional and take my time on it.:cool:

I already got the bubble strip on ebay for $6.95 ...I grabbed it as it was a buy it now....then I will get the other parts as I go..the graflex clamp holder is going to be hard....I see even on ebay they are hard to nail..I did check out the Blast tech site and $50 for the graflex clamp on there is a huge chunk for me.......I will start with the small parts and work my way up

DianaG

xl97
08-29-2010, 08:01 AM
Of course remember that the MHS app price count won't include your led and optics and such. And extra stuffs, all it is is the metal parts.


and the power coating fee (which isnt 100% accurate...FYI)

DianaG
08-29-2010, 09:15 AM
why i sn't powder coating accurate...or do you mean the fee for having it done isn't right?

I did find a website to make your own graflex clamp holder...seems pretty easy but may be hard to find the parts !

I've seen very high bids just for that graflex part....

dianaG

xl97
08-29-2010, 09:38 AM
'accurate' in the sense that in reality the MHS builder only does 'solid' colors (meaning the whole part is powder coated).. and thats a base/flat fee..

if you wanted somethign powder coated which maybe had the ribs on a ribbed section NOT powder coated... that is an extra charge for servfice work (I think $5.00?) to put the part back on the lathe...etc..

but for base parts and costs it should be accurate..

if you want a base, solid color pwder coat it will also be accurate..

DianaG
08-29-2010, 12:30 PM
Ahhh ok now I know what you mean.

thank you!:D

DianaG

Tarragon Rill
09-14-2010, 05:21 AM
here is a link to a picture of the Obi saber used in ANH and myabe others it is made frm the exact same parts as the movie prop so other than some was it greeblies? (not sure if it had any) it is a good point to refer to.

http://forums.thecustomsabershop.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2794&d=1284400374

Jedi-Loreen
09-14-2010, 09:06 AM
I know you're trying to be helpful, but that's not really a good angle to see all the parts on that saber.

DianaG
09-21-2010, 06:53 PM
is there a way the picture of the sabers can be done from a diffrent angle?

I would like to see it from above too and not just from the "butt" end...

I can see the only problem I may have is getting the graflex flash grip part....

I have almost enough saved up to get the heatsink and the blade holder part first, then save up to get the electronics...and go from there.

DianaG

Darth Xusia
09-21-2010, 07:04 PM
Hopefully this helps.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/SNeiswender/Lightsaber%20Pictures/ObiWan001.jpg

Caine Drathul
09-21-2010, 10:02 PM
And here are two of mine....

http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv244/CaineDrathul/Saber%20Builds/MHS%20Ben%20Kenobi%20ANH/th_IMG_8122.jpg (http://s688.photobucket.com/albums/vv244/CaineDrathul/Saber%20Builds/MHS%20Ben%20Kenobi%20ANH/?action=view&current=IMG_8122.jpg)
http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv244/CaineDrathul/Saber%20Builds/MHS%20Ben%20Kenobi%20ANH/th_IMG_8128.jpg (http://s688.photobucket.com/albums/vv244/CaineDrathul/Saber%20Builds/MHS%20Ben%20Kenobi%20ANH/?action=view&current=IMG_8128.jpg)

I'll help you if you need it on the small stuff like the transistors, etc

DianaG
09-22-2010, 08:33 AM
oh thank you for those pics!that gives me a better view of what I need to do.
Very nice work!

did you make your own graflex clamp or is that a real one on the weathered looking saber on the top of the page?

I probably will need your help on the transistor and electronics part on this saber....I will take me a bit to get the parts but once I do I will post here.

(I need to raise some money, I am going to sell my MR Force FX construction kit on ebay ....I thought about cannibalising it for parts but I have no idea on how to do that...and with my stiff hands I'd probably kill it..or hurt myself getting it open...:shock: building one from scratch will be safer!)

DianaG

Caine Drathul
09-22-2010, 11:21 AM
oh thank you for those pics!that gives me a better view of what I need to do.
Very nice work!

did you make your own graflex clamp or is that a real one on the weathered looking saber on the top of the page?

I probably will need your help on the transistor and electronics part on this saber....I will take me a bit to get the parts but once I do I will post here.

(I need to raise some money, I am going to sell my MR Force FX construction kit on ebay ....I thought about cannibalising it for parts but I have no idea on how to do that...and with my stiff hands I'd probably kill it..or hurt myself getting it open...:shock: building one from scratch will be safer!)

DianaG

I just sent you a PM regarding a few things.

B5813
09-23-2010, 06:02 PM
Many people have done MHS Obi builds on this forum. You should have no trouble doing a search to find lots of pictures. Also, just looking at the store parts you shouldn't have too much trouble visualizing what you'd need to put the body together. The clamp will cost you and that's the trouble with camera collectors who noticed how much Star Wars people were willing to pay for all things Graflex. Today you will find new replica pieces but twenty years ago nobody imagined that a Graflex flash gun could sell for $150 and more. If/when you score a clamp you'll have to shave down the four tabs on the inner diameter and then shim it over the MHS body with a section of sinktube.

dhorton01
10-01-2010, 11:42 AM
I believe parksabers sells the graflex clamp for $35, i got mine awhile ago though

jin starkiller
10-05-2010, 01:13 PM
i have all the parts to build my obi wan saber ...was curious as to what switch to use with the activation box ....searched but didn't come up with a definitive answer

Skottsaber
10-06-2010, 10:48 AM
I'm assuming you are talking about the box 1, because the others both say use an AV switch.

You could drill out the card and use a standard switch, or just have no card and the switch might fit through the centre hole, making a very nice and VERY guarded switch setup.

Caine Drathul
10-06-2010, 10:54 AM
i have all the parts to build my obi wan saber ...was curious as to what switch to use with the activation box ....searched but didn't come up with a definitive answer

Is this with a soundboard or a stunt? If you do an economy soundboard, you can use a momentary plunger switch and mount it under the card for activation. If you use an FX board, you can use either a Polulu, or a Lighthound PCB and convert it to a momentary switch setup and do the same. Or you can do what Skott said if it's a slider switch (I'd find the smallest one you can) and go that route.

jin starkiller
10-06-2010, 10:57 AM
i spoke with ldm and i am going to use the micro switch in the store for the setup ....thanx for the help

RevengeoftheSeth
10-06-2010, 11:28 AM
How many mA can those little switches handle?

Lord Dottore Matto
10-06-2010, 11:58 AM
How many mA can those little switches handle?

Much more than the electronics of this saber will provide ;)

Look at any of the sabers I built for Caine and you will see that I used the long post versions in all of them. This is the way of the Jedi, younglings. LDM speaketh not from huberis but from many trials and tribulations in attaining mastery of the switch-fu. :lol:

RevengeoftheSeth
10-06-2010, 01:57 PM
Much more than the electronics of this saber will provide ;)

Look at any of the sabers I built for Caine and you will see that I used the long post versions in all of them. This is the way of the Jedi, younglings. LDM speaketh not from huberis but from many trials and tribulations in attaining mastery of the switch-fu. :lol:

LOL, whatever huberis means ;)

I was curious, because the switches sold at my 'local electronics store' say they are rated only for 30mA or 50mA. I didn't know if they were the same. They don't carry the long post version there, and those are the ones I really want, so I'll still be ordering them from TCSS.

I shall continue my quest to attain mastery of switch-fu.

jin starkiller
10-06-2010, 02:09 PM
don't we all wish we had it already..:)

Caine Drathul
10-06-2010, 03:04 PM
And with LDM's above words (and sound advice) , I also have mastered switch-fu ;)