PolyC Tips!!

[Strydur]

I finally got a good working polyc tip with shoulder prototype. I glued one on and let it sit for about an hour. Then I proceeded to smack it against everything I could find including my concrete floor and the damn sucker wouldnt come off for anything. I wish I had a video camera to show you just how much abuse these can take. I will get them made up as soon as I can.

Tim
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[Mi Gin Gonn]

awesome! finally, no more scotch tape, lol

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[Nightwing]

Awesome!!!

So will they replace the acrylic ones in the Complete Blades, or will we have to buy them separately?

[Strydur]

I try and use the best possible so yes the acrylic ones will no longer be used in the blades once I have these in stock.

Tim
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[xwingband]

Will these be the same/similar to corbin's tips?

This reminds me I need to go whack something good.[:)]

EDIT: Video... working on it. I took a baseball bat swing at my basketball hoop. Still on there.[:)]

EDIT2: Video! http://www.classmaterial.com/~_3513/incom/tipwhacking%20001.MOV

If you doubt it... watch the frame by frame.[;)] Look at that PolyC bend.

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[Strydur]

The tips corbin currently has are acrylic one with a shoulder piece glued onto it. The ones I will have are PolyC and have the tip and shoulder molded as one piece.

<font color="red">Try some direct hits to the tip xwing. </font id="red">

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[xwingband]

Well, it'll have to wait as the sun is setting here. I'll have to figure out how to get a good view of a tip hit anyway. At least it shows that they won't fly off in normal dueling (I did that before at college and that tip was GONE! Even after move out it wasn't found[?]). If they're one-piece that's even better![:)]

Sounds like more to add to my next order.[:D]

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[:p]


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[xwingband]

Yeah, that's neat isn't it?[:p]

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Dang xwing! Ya got game brother![;)]

I love the look you have while your beating that sucker.[:D]

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[LAN-ED-TUL]

tim, are you still using the weld-on 3 to glue the new polc tips on the blades? i still have a full can sittin here. if so, then i need to get some tips from ya. are you setting those up with mirrors, or mylar reflective film to be used underneath?

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[Jedi Ranger]

This is awesome news. I wonder if a lesser more readily available glue/epoxy will work now? Such as Krazy Glue or Super Glue?

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Hi all,
first post in the forum...

the polyC Tips sound awsome... me and my friend where dueling...
and of course being the only thing on the blade that can break.. they did at the same time..[B)] so we took to the blade's with a heat gun a metal surface they look ugly as sin but work fine.. mmmm, all one piece polyC blade!!![:D]
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[Firebird21]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by d2rsmaster

we took to the blade's with a heat gun a metal surface they look ugly as sin but work fine.. mmmm, all one piece polyC blade<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">


Innovative...

I wonder what the heat does to the structure of the PolyC. Like, if it gets brittle like metal and some other materials.

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[Zhi-don]

*BOWS*

The Master has done it again. I'm gonna order these for all my blades.

Question: Are you going to have both sizes? 3/4 and 1 inch?

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[Strydur]

To start I will just have the 1" thick walled ones. These molds cost allot to have made up.

Tim
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[Zhi-don]

Thats ok...I can wait, until then I can always use your acrylic ones.

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[LAN-ED-TUL]

what about the glue?

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[Strydur]

weld-on 3 works great..anything else I am not sure.

Tim
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[xwingband]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Strydur

weld-on 3 works great..anything else I am not sure.

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Ditto. Great stuff, once you get the hang of it you won't want to bother with others.

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[LAN-ED-TUL]

k then, the weld-on 3 will still work fine for the polc tips to polc tube connections. this is what i needed to know, thanx tim.

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[informalmyx]

darn are ya gonna have the el wire ones made

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[LDS_Trooper]

Are these available yet?

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[Strydur]

Not yet..the company is still trying to get them to come out with no bubbles in them. They are trying diffferent materials. Hopefully soon.

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[Firebird21]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Strydur

Not yet..the company is still trying to get them to come out with no bubbles in them. They are trying different materials. Hopefully soon.
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I'm sure many of us wouldn't care about imperfections if we're just going to beat the snitz out of them. Just sell them at a discount[:p]


I've got a blade that's waiting for 2 things... Those tips, and for my wife to be not looking when I order it![:0] lol


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[SilentBob501]

My tip flew off recently, (due to an unfortunate instance with spinning techniques and a coffee table) I was able to glue it on with some krazy glue, and in a matter of seconds it was solid as a rock.

[LAN-ED-TUL]

yeah, the shouldered tips corbin has are still acrylic ones, but we are awaitin the polyc ones. i got one of corbins to replace the tip i shattered before the con. and it works great. just got to remember no direct smacks on the tip, and itll be fine. it may be glued on real good, but i bet it will still shatter if hit right.

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[Do-Clo]

I have been using craftics #33 to glue my tips on and they stay on really good. The tip with the shoulder is a big improvement, I have a couple of corbins blade tips that will go on the blades for my own sabers.

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[xwingband]

Update... I finally broke my tip off... The blade itself is quite shattered at the tip.[:0][xx(] The cabochon (half sphere) part broke into pieces. It took a full force tip hit. I spun it 360 to end with the tip against the pavement... it broke nicely.[:I]

At least I know the limits now... you need to shatter the blade at the same time.[:D]

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talk about a beating [B)]

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by xwingband

Update... I finally broke my tip off... The blade itself is quite shattered at the tip.[:0][xx(] The cabochon (half sphere) part broke into pieces. It took a full force tip hit. I spun it 360 to end with the tip against the pavement... it broke nicely.[:I]

At least I know the limits now... you need to shatter the blade at the same time.[:D]

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too bad it wasnt on video, that would be cool!!

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[xwingband]

Yeah, taking video of everytime I bash the thing around would be difficult. It's just good to know these can stand up to so much.

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[Lord Maul]

when will the poly C tips be in. i'm waiting on them to get my blade

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[LAN-ED-TUL]

yeah, i still wanna grab a few so when i pop one, i have a good one to swap out.

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[HiddenMooCow]

They sound pretty cool. I can't wait until I get some money to grab a few and swap out my acrylic ones. Of course I don't have my saber yet but I know corbin uses acrylic ones.

[xwingband]

Exactly, while PolyC ones will be nicer... I think since I shattered parts around the tip of the PolyC blade that an Acrylic tip still isn't bad.

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[Lord Maul]

i still want the latest and greatest though [:D]

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[GFORCE13]

Man I had seen Corbins tips, but now that there is something better and stronger will have to update all my blades.[8D]

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[xwingband]

Unfortunately an upgrade from Corbin's means you have to break the blade to get them off, lol.

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[Lord Maul]

i will just get a whole new blade and put the poly C tip in. no breaking of the blade required [:D]

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[UltraSWG]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Strydur

weld-on 3 works great..anything else I am not sure.

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Hey Tim, forget that Weld-On stuff, you can weld polyC to itself with acetone. I have my own polyC tips for thin wall and MR blades and acetone works great (plus it isn't hasmat and is hella cheaper).

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[LAN-ED-TUL]

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Yep, right here.

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by UltraSWG

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weld-on 3 works great..anything else I am not sure.

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Hey Tim, forget that Weld-On stuff, you can weld polyC to itself with acetone. I have my own polyC tips for thin wall and MR blades and acetone works great (plus it isn't hasmat and is hella cheaper).

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How in the world did you figure that one out???

I'm going to stick to Weld-on since I can easily get it and it bonds lots of other stuff (acrylic, PVC, etc...).

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[JediMcD]

Hey Ultra how do you get the acetone to fuse the two pieces together. Do you just dip the very end of the blade in acetone and then put the tip on after that? Sounds like it would be really strong.

JediMcD

[LAN-ED-TUL]

yeah, do tell, if its better than weld-on please share the details.

i mean, i have a big ole can of it, i can use up, but wheni do, then this other is easier to get than weldon and cheaper. its costs me 24 bucks to get one online.

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[Strydur]

Here is a little movie showing how with shouldered tips you must break the blade/tip before they will come off.

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[xwingband]

hehe, that how you do it.[:D] I did it with one hit though. Cabochan shattered, the blade looked like that though.

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[james3]

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[Strydur]

They are made of a plastic called Styrene AcryloNitrile it is easier to form this thick and bonds just as good as polyc.

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[Ambo]

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[Firebird21]

I keep flinching like it's going to hit me in the face when you swing it! lol[B)]

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[JediMcD]

Hey Tim did you find out if it bonded to polycarb with acetone like ultra had talked about before. Since it isn't polycarb that these are made out of I didn't know if the trick would work or not.

[Lord Maul]

dude, you beat the snitz out of that thing. that is sweet how before the tip shattered, you actually cracked the polyC. just goes to show you how strong weld on 3 is

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[UltraSWG]

Acetone melts polyC, so when you join two pieces together with it, it melts them together. You just take a dropper, drip put a couple drops onto the polyC tip's shoulder and snap it into the blade.

Strydur, I thought you were making tips out of PolyC, that is why I reccomended acetone. Acetone will work with polyC tips, but I doubt it will work with SAN resin.

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All I can say is "Impresive, Most Impresive" finally a half ball that doesn't fall off, I will take 10.[:D]

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[Lord Maul]

the half ball doesn't matter much GForce, it's all in the glue [:D]. i think you mean 10 jugs of weld on 3 and or acetone

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[Strydur]

The shoulder makes a big difference..more surface area to glue and more side strength.

Tim
The Custom Saber Shop

[LAN-ED-TUL]

so when are you gettin the tips in then tim? and im guessing then we just use our weld on 3 to glue them like we do on the regular tips too?

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Lan-Ed-Tul
The Brotherhood Of The Sith

You dont know the POWER, of the dark side...