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the_steve
06-04-2006, 06:10 PM
This thread is for the discussion and Q & A over the free Numeric edition Lee filters color swatch book. Let me provide some information first.

Note. The saber in these pictures uses a 1 watt led, so most other sabers will be brighter.

The hilt, the swatch book, and my 3 favorite filters.
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/143/dscf00081kn.jpg

The green filter in the saber.
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/933/dscf00097dw.jpg

Puprle.
http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf00109qm.jpg

Yellow.
http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf00111nh.jpg

And the white for comparison and to show transmission rates.
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5483/dscf00124mi.jpg

This picture shows the names and numbers of the three sample colors. They are the best yellow, purple and green i could find. This picture also shows the style the swatches are arranged in.
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/9935/dscf00136ma.jpg

These are some other swatches that come in the book. This should provide you with tip material and a base reflective strip.
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4002/dscf00176es.jpg

www.leefilters.com is the website. If you want the book,(not trying to take away business, but this is the general LED forum) e-mail lee filters and request a "Numeric edition color filter swatch book" along with your shipping address and a valid reason for needing the book. I wouldn't advise saying you build lightsabers. Tell them something proffesional sounding and send the e-mail. The swatch book should show up in the mail in about 4 days. You will not have to pay anything, not even S&H.

For those who have the books, please share any other good swatches you have found and try to include pictures. Any questions go here and any general info or discussion goes here as well.

phat lewt=kash munni

xwingband
06-04-2006, 06:19 PM
Will there be a responce e-mail? I e-mailed last night and I'm not sure from your wording if there'd be a confirmation e-mail.

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the_steve
06-04-2006, 06:21 PM
THere will be no response, but don't let that worry you.

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Beatboxer
06-05-2006, 01:40 PM
Is ther any apparent advantage to these filters over the usual filter's used?

xwingband
06-05-2006, 02:00 PM
From the pics it seems that they are less saturated with white compared to the ones Tim offers. Tim's are mighty convenient but some colors like the red disk are quite lacking.

I will post when I get mine.

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the_steve
06-05-2006, 02:10 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Beatboxer

Is ther any apparent advantage to these filters over the usual filter's used?
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WEll the facts that they are free, and there are 800 of them really help. And they give very rich colors. They are also easy to work with and since every color has a unique name and number, it is eas to share info and opinions. And each color has enough material to make about 6 squares to use.

phat lewt=kash munni

Beatboxer
06-05-2006, 03:48 PM
Wow 800! Sweet. Reason enough right there.

Now to come up with my psuedo profession to order em..hmm, what's a good one? A custom optics maker sounds good.

Thanks for links steve.

james3
06-06-2006, 07:39 AM
I am going to have to get me some of this action.

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Yoiaholic
06-06-2006, 10:16 AM
They are definately worth it. I'm going out tonight to buy a 3W flashlight to steal the white LED lol I can't wait anymore.

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the_steve
06-06-2006, 10:36 AM
Hehe, i have a 1 watt lux flashlight that i test the filters with before i cut them out and stick them in my saber. But the way my flashlight is buily prevents me from stealing the LED.

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Corbin_Das
06-06-2006, 01:34 PM
Hi all
My personal favorite Lee filter is probably #052 light Lavender. The trouble is that the richer the color, the dimmer the blade. The higher the lumens, the more washed out the color gets. It's a trade off.
On a side note, 1 watt Luxeons produce around 25 lumens of light. 3 watters get around 80 lumens and the 5 watters give about 120 lumens. The new white K2 LEDs are rated for 130 lumens with a lower input voltage. So you get the voltage requirements of the 3 watt with brighter blades than the 5 watts. Unfortunately, they only come in emitter form at this point and that means a little harder time mounting them. They're more efficient in emitter form however, but that's besides the point.
As for the future of LED blades, I'm currently working to get distributorship status with a company making 10 and 20 watt versions of the Luxeons. You heard right. The white ones produce 400 lumens in 10 watt and (get this) 700 LUMENS in the 20 watt setups. [8D] That's really damn bright.
Of course, the voltage requirements and heatsinking will be outrageous. I'm wanting to get them so you don't have to turn the saber off too cool it down every few minutes. A large heatsink with a fan will almost definitely be required.
Anyway, I just thought I'd share a bit. By the way, if you want an interesting detail on your hilt, get some Lee #272 or 273 and use it under some slots in the hilt. The texturing makes for a cool accent. I've also sculpted some sculpy around a tube to try and see if it would work for grip material. Using the 272 to emboss the clay makes for a cool texture.


Corbin Das

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Mi Gin Gonn
06-06-2006, 02:56 PM
Corbin, that is awesome news. Can't wait! 700 lumens?!!! Holy Mother Teresa. I was looking at the datasheet pdf on those...the heatsinking didn't seem like it would be that bad considering the wattage. Maybe I missed something.

As far as Lee #272, i'm saving that for a reflective tip when i get around to making a red saber, as per your suggestion that gold works better with red LEDs.

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Yoiaholic
06-06-2006, 06:43 PM
Grrr no luck on finding a 3 Watt LED flashlight. Any idea's where to look? I'll end up buying one from Tim or Corbin, but I wanted to place a big order to save on shipping and I'm not ready for that yet.

Again, any idea what store might carry a 3watt LED flashlight?

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Do-Clo
06-06-2006, 07:27 PM
I was in Lowes tonight and they had them by the cash registers. It had a white 3 watt luxeon in it.

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LAN-ED-TUL
06-07-2006, 03:14 AM
as the guy said in the goonies, holy mary mother of god, will ya look at that! 700 lumens. man, eyeballs will blow out with those suckers. (evil laugh)

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Yoiaholic
06-07-2006, 06:01 AM
Thats right, Mi Gin Gonn said that if you look at the base of his 5 watt it hurts your eyes. I can only imagine what that would be like. More likely our eyes will limit the techology in our sabers.

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Mi Gin Gonn
06-07-2006, 06:13 PM
my camera's finally cooperating with me (somewhat), so here's my Lee Filters pics.

First, keep in mind that I'm using a 5-watt LED, and your results may vary. A 5-watt can use filters with deeper colors and still trump the brightness of 1 and 3-watt sabers. If you're using a 1 or 3-watter, you may want to try a filter that allows more light transmission (Lee Swatchbooks group colors together, with the lighter shades preceding the deeper ones). Also, remember that my camera isn't 100% accurate, these colors look a lot richer and more movie-authentic in person.

Ok, here's what we're starting with...5-watt white LED saber:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d129/darthshoppingmall/IM002265.jpg


Next, my favorite Mace Windu purple, #048 Rose Purple, first with daylight in the room:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d129/darthshoppingmall/IM002254.jpg


And then in darker ambience (my camera gives it a blueish tint, but trust me, in person, you can hold it up to your TV screen during EPII/III and Samuel L. Jackson himself will stop in mid-acting and go, "Mmmmm....now that's a tasty purple":

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d129/darthshoppingmall/IM002247.jpg


Next is #068 Sky Blue, which makes a very nice ROTS blue:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d129/darthshoppingmall/IM002246.jpg


Here's #115 Pea**** Blue (#131 Marine Blue does the same trick), a nice EPIV Skywalker blue (try a slightly lighter shade for a dead-on Obi Wan EPIV white-blue):

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d129/darthshoppingmall/IM002260.jpg


This is my current favorite green, #738, Jas Green (perfect ROTJ Green in person, and lights up the entire blade VERY evenly):

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d129/darthshoppingmall/IM002261.jpg
(the last two pics were taken on a different day than the others, but those colors are just as bright as the others...in fact, actually brighter in person)


Here's #767, Oklahoma Yellow as suggested by the_steve. I used to hate yellow sabers, but this one is as bright as the friggin' sun...i'd sure hate to see the look on some EL enthusiast's face when they lit up a dim pink EL saber and i whupped this one out on 'em, lol:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d129/darthshoppingmall/IM002248.jpg


By far, a decent red is the toughest color to get. Most of the filters come out either orange or pink. This is the best red, methinks, #106 Primary Red (my camera gives a orange flare at the base, but it's a pretty damn even red in person):

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d129/darthshoppingmall/IM002250.jpg


I found what's really helpful with these swatchbooks is to flip through them while holding each one up between your lit saber hilt and your polycarbonate blade. It's not quite as color-accurate as actually dropping a filter in the saber and inserting the blade, but will save you lots of guesswork, as many filters look different on their own vs. lit up (for example, a lot of the purple filters make a more ROTS blue-colored saber rather than a nice Mace Windu color). I did that with the majority of the swatchbook, jotting down a note on each swatch's paper backing as to how the color saturation/light transmission was, as well as which SW saber the color most resembled.

If you don't take notes of any kind whatsoever, your desk will look like this after a couple of days/hours:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d129/darthshoppingmall/IM002264.jpg


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james3
06-07-2006, 07:57 PM
Thanks Mi-Gon the pics look great.

Just do me a favor and when my little girl lights up her pink EL saber, don't make her cry to bad[;)]

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Mi Gin Gonn
06-07-2006, 08:41 PM
lol, james, get/build her a LED saber and use a filter. as a matter of fact, i have the PERFECT girlie pink. not vader EPIV pink, no, a pink that my all-time beloved crush herself would love, # 148 Bright Rose. that's what i jotted down on my swatchbook notes, "number 148, Jane Wiedlin girlie pink."



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LAN-ED-TUL
06-07-2006, 11:05 PM
well i sent a email to lee filters to try and get a book of them. if i get them, then i guess my next purchase will be a white led.

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Madcow
06-08-2006, 07:49 AM
I just received my swatchbook from Lee Filters.
All I wrote was that I was a lightsaber builder, and needed more colour options.

I have a white K2 on order.

MC



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WeirdoTransvestite
06-08-2006, 10:59 AM
Wow Madcow, honesty.

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Do-Clo
06-08-2006, 12:07 PM
Stranger things than the truth have worked before

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the_steve
06-08-2006, 02:25 PM
Well i got my double wrap of corbin's blade film yesterday, so i took 3 pics. The first one is marine blue (#131) then oklahoma yellow (767) then unfiltered. Man that really brought out the brightness of my 1 watt led.

http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/9952/dscf00171be.jpg

http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/417/dscf00182cw.jpg

http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/7342/dscf00190xt.jpg

Yeah i know, i should get a tripod[:I]

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Ambo
06-12-2006, 02:34 PM
I got the response back on my email to lee filters:

Thank you for your interest in LEE Filters.

We are happy to supply you with information regarding our products. The pricing for our Master Swatch Book is $100.00. This and additional information can be found on the price list that was previously mailed to you; the master swatch is listed at the bottom of the page. Additionally, <u>I will mail you a numeric swatch to make your selection process easier</u>.

Thank you,
The LEE Filters Team
mail@leefiltersusa.com
(800) 576-5055 tel
(818) 238-1228 fax


Edit: they are sending me the "numeric" swatch, which is what everyone has been getting. It probably dosnt cost them much and it is gettign them advertising, so they probably dotn care about us.


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Mi Gin Gonn
06-12-2006, 03:13 PM
that's odd, ambo, because neither the_steve nor myself recieved any kind of email response from Lee Filters. maybe we ordered ours differently or something [?]

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Madcow
06-12-2006, 04:39 PM
Maybe they're on to us...

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Beatboxer
06-12-2006, 04:41 PM
I finally sent an e-mail out to em. I wonder if it apperas to them that there's a suddden interest in their filters or if such requests are common.:)

LAN-ED-TUL
06-12-2006, 10:12 PM
i never got a reply from them, but i havent got a swatch book yet either.

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Ambo
06-13-2006, 01:21 PM
The only reason I received a response is because I asked for the price of the Master Swatch set along with the request for them to send me a Number Swatch, otherwise they will just send it. The trend is they will not email back they will just send the swatch book.





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What
06-15-2006, 08:05 PM
<s>I have requested mine today, hoping for reply...</s>

I have recieved a reply to my email today, So i sent her the email with my mailing adress and asked for info on master swatch book.
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Mi Gin Gonn
06-17-2006, 08:55 AM
well, considering the kind of business that Lee Filters probably does, sending out samples to them is probably just in their marketing budget.

*ahhh...my leee swatchbooook....my precious......*


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xwingband
06-17-2006, 11:07 AM
It's about time... I finally got mine. They sent me the "designer's" swatch book as I requested it as an architecture student... Oh well, it includes the numeric edition too so it's all cool.[8D]

Now to milk the full worth out I'm going to have to get one of those K2's Do-Clo pointed out to me. www.ledsupply.com put some K2's on star mounts... unfortunately their all the low current bins, but they have the high bin white. 140 lumens of White here I come![:D]

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Yoiaholic
06-17-2006, 05:28 PM
Xwing, I didn't see any thing on the difference between the two bin's. Can you explain for me? Is there a different power supply set up or just a brightness difference?

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xwingband
06-17-2006, 05:48 PM
Well, ledsupply doesn't give any explaination or specs for it... but as I pointed out to Do-Clo that he missed was the lowest K2 blue only puts out 16 lumens compared to a 3W blue that is 30 lumens.

I'm not sure the exact explaination but based on the manufacturing process I'd guess it's a quality issue. Each is scanned and catagorized for color, so it's probably a good assumption that they are checked for quality too. The higher binned ones can handle more amperage. For example the top binned Blue can take 1500ma to get 35lm, but the middle bin is the 700ma (like the low binned one) and puts out 26lm.[?]

Comparing the two whites at ledsupply are low to high: 700ma and 75lm vs. 1500ma and 130lm. The next top binned white K2 (which they don't have) is 140lm.

Needless to say I'll be watching to see what else they come with because if they get more of the high current ones, especially in the blues and green, we wouldn't have to worry about mounting them anymore and getting more light with the hassle of a 5W.[:)]

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Do-Clo
06-17-2006, 06:26 PM
Yea I read too many spec sheets and over looked the low rating but it will be interesting to se what it looks like in a hilt. Led Supply ships fast by USPS, I placed my order thursday and I got it in the mail today. I will have to wait until some more stuff comes in before I build them up into sabers. I have a custom saber order to build first, a 5 watt cyan with sound, that sucker is going to be bright.

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LAN-ED-TUL
06-17-2006, 08:31 PM
what sound board ya usin do-clo?

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Hajime
06-17-2006, 09:25 PM
Here are some pics of Lee filters with a white 130 lumens K2 http://darth.smugmug.com/photos/76098150-M.jpg Here is 767 beside a red/orange 3watt their bright http://darth.smugmug.com/photos/76098618-M.jpg

mike-jon-sims
06-17-2006, 10:38 PM
just got my lee filters in the mail today. ill try to post pics of some with my white 3w when i get the time.

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Yoiaholic
06-18-2006, 05:44 AM
BTW, are you using special optics for the k2's?


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Do-Clo
06-18-2006, 06:39 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by LAN-ED-TUL

what sound board ya usin do-clo?

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I am going to use a Vader MR FX sound board, I like the sound better.

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Mi Gin Gonn
06-18-2006, 09:42 AM
awesome pics, Hajime. wish my camera would cooperate with me like yours does [:p]





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xwingband
06-18-2006, 12:23 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Yoiaholic

BTW, are you using special optics for the k2's?
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I too would like to know for curiousity sake...

They fit but the holder doesn't work on the emitter form. Theoretically Tim's holder has good enough tolerances that you could just use the screwing on to hold it on if you thermal epoxied the LED down.

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Hajime
06-18-2006, 02:33 PM
Thanks Mi Gin Gonn.I know what you mean with the camera.My camera makes them look like they do in the movies most of the time.As for optics I use the holders that use the regular 20mm optics.If your using a mounted emitter K2 you could try the OPK2 lens or the reflector lens. http://darth.smugmug.com/photos/76240018-M.jpg They won't fit Tim's holder though.The OPK2 optic would work in Tim's blade holder if you machine it out.It has a 1'' O.D. and work really well.I have never just mounted them to a heatsink.I lucked up and found some MCPCB and mounted them on those. http://darth.smugmug.com/photos/76240116-M.jpg I'll try to get some more pics of other colors.Tim's filters work great also.With the K2,his red filter makes a perfect Vader ESB blade.

Mi Gin Gonn
06-18-2006, 04:02 PM
oh, sweet!!! post pics soon!








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LAN-ED-TUL
06-18-2006, 06:24 PM
im still waitin on my filters, i might have to email them again.

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Hajime
06-18-2006, 07:31 PM
Here are some more pics.This is # 795. http://darth.smugmug.com/photos/76281343-M.jp # 022 http://darth.smugmug.com/photos/76281482-M.jpg # 158 http://darth.smugmug.com/photos/76281834-M.jpg # 179 this is the same as a amber 3 watt but brighter. http://darth.smugmug.com/photos/76281932-M.jpg # 101 http://darth.smugmug.com/photos/76282013-M.jpg #124 good Yoda green http://darth.smugmug.com/photos/76282171-M.jpg # 738 http://darth.smugmug.com/photos/76282473-M.jpg # 354 http://darth.smugmug.com/photos/76282740-M.jpg

987654321a
06-21-2006, 11:33 AM
i just sent an email to them. i just have to wait for it to come.

EDIT- Do you absolutly have to say how your going to use it?

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Mi Gin Gonn
06-21-2006, 02:34 PM
i figured it'd be a better idea to make something up, countdown, like that you worked for a nightclub or made movies or something, but madcow told them it was for lightsabers and they sent him a swatchbook anyway.

btw, awesome pics, hajime!




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gstealer
06-21-2006, 03:12 PM
I told them I build sabers and heard they had a very good product.. can I have a sample please? Got mine less than a week later.

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element115
06-21-2006, 04:19 PM
I personally think the filters are not very bright.Luxeon should come out with more colors at 3 watt +

Mi Gin Gonn
06-21-2006, 04:28 PM
not very bright? turn up the contrast & brightness buttons on your computer monitor, amigo [8D]

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xwingband
06-21-2006, 04:46 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by element115

I personally think the filters are not very bright.Luxeon should come out with more colors at 3 watt +
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I noticed the post in the purple blades section... had to delete all the off-topic stuff. Boy that was there for a while.

LumiLEDs has no control over the colors. They just come out. They have to scan each one for color and hence the bin system. The ones we have are the "common colors". They can't just make one... it's not possible.

Ditto what Mi said. The leefilters are much better.

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987654321a
06-21-2006, 08:31 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by xwingband

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by element115

I personally think the filters are not very bright.Luxeon should come out with more colors at 3 watt +
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I noticed the post in the purple blades section... had to delete all the off-topic stuff. Boy that was there for a while.




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i helped out in that post if you noticed xwing

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desertscorpion
06-22-2006, 11:11 AM
I'm sure that you guys have already noticed this and discussed it before, but I hadn't read anything about it. The sabers are very bright in the movies due to special effects, but the respective light they send off is very little. In real life, these sabers can be almost too bright to look at as the bulb ratings increase. They might look good during the day or from 30 feet away at night, but eye fatigue/damage starts to become a consideration. I'm not really taking a stance, but just want to know what you guys, in your experience, have to say about that issue...

Mi Gin Gonn
06-22-2006, 11:39 AM
the only thing i'll say about LED sabers' brightness is this...

where the hell were these sabers back in college when i was using psychedelic drugs? [:D]

eye fatigue could become an issue if you duel for like three hours straight or something, but a LED in a diffuser tube ain't gonna cause actual eye damage. staring directly into a Luxeon star is the only way to accomplish that.






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987654321a
06-22-2006, 12:48 PM
yeah but i think desert is talking about 10-20 watt leds

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desertscorpion
06-22-2006, 01:05 PM
yes, that's right. Even though they look cooler and cooler, the brighter they are. At some point we'll need shades to look at them.

Mi Gin Gonn
06-22-2006, 02:33 PM
well amigos, Corbin's already told me that the 10 & 20-watters are yet to be available in sabers, mainly due to the heatsinking issues.

which = BUMMER! i wanna 20-watter!!!! NOW!!!!
*throws tantrum*

in the meantime, any creative ideas on heatsinking? we gotta get these 10 & 20-watters up & running!









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xwingband
06-22-2006, 03:22 PM
Well, fans have always been what we strive for BUT if we are throwing out ideas...

Liquid cooled![8D]

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Ambo
06-22-2006, 03:31 PM
Maybe we should base our ideas along the same lines as CPU's and GPU's?





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987654321a
06-22-2006, 03:32 PM
yeah but who wants a fan in their saber? and also 20 watts!!! if you think 3w is bright now in the dark think about 17 more watts added, thats incredible!

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xwingband
06-22-2006, 04:16 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Ambo

Maybe we should base our ideas along the same lines as CPU's and GPU's?
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Exactly my thoughts. If a sealed container could be found water cooling might not be too crazy. Use a peltier to cool the water while it's not on...

Countdown, a fan isn't that bad of an idea for people that like motors in their sabers. It's the size that's been an obstacle.

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987654321a
06-22-2006, 04:56 PM
yeah but thats just my preference i dont want a fan in my saber, where are you gonna mount it?

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Firebird21
06-22-2006, 06:13 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by 987654321a

yeah but thats just my preference i dont want a fan in my saber, where are you gonna mount it?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">


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Mi Gin Gonn
06-22-2006, 06:34 PM
either way,

brighter sabers = a good thing. i say bring it on!

besides, i'm sure Corbin is well on the way to a heatsinking solution. from what i've heard Tim and Ultra have their hands on those 20-watt suckers now too. 700 m f'n Lumens? YES!

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xwingband
06-22-2006, 06:37 PM
Where's my 20W then?!?![:(!]

lol, then we could make those leefilters awesome!

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Mi Gin Gonn
06-22-2006, 06:56 PM
Lee Filters already ARE awesome, lol...

But yeah...Corbin's already on the case (btw, I'll gladly lend you whatever kinda helping hand you need in research & development, Corbin!)

Take that, EL, ha ha ha...

Yer so dead....






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O-B 1
06-23-2006, 12:09 PM
There's 10 watt flashlight torches that I found. Maybe you could convert the flashlight or salvage the led from that. I can't find 20 watt that run on DC currents. All the ones I found are like halogen bulbs or something. I believe those run on AC currents.

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xwingband
06-23-2006, 02:51 PM
Most ones in flashlights are crippled by how they are put in there and are horribly under driven. It's a possiblity though...

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Firebird21
06-23-2006, 03:06 PM
I have a 10 LED flash light that runs of 3 D-cell batteries and will stay on for a month before it kills them. And that was before the Lithiums went on the market! If you put them in it you may never need to change them! lol

I've had it now for about 4yrs. and I have never changed the batteries in it.

It's not the brightest, (that's what my $100 rechargable MagLight is for... [B)] The same one the cops use.[:D]) but it always works. (And you don't have to worry about loosing the charger for it when you move, rendering it usless...[:(!])


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Yoiaholic
06-27-2006, 03:27 PM
Any more filter pics? I'm getting excited, I just ordered my saber today (not from TCSS sorry) and my K2 should be here soon :)

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987654321a
06-27-2006, 03:51 PM
hmmm i didnt get the filters in the mail yet


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suit_man
06-27-2006, 06:16 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by 987654321a

yeah but who wants a fan in their saber?
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i have a fan for my 5 watt saber. it's a tiny fan from a pc.

i am a nerd, if you don't like it, i will cut you with my lightsaber

987654321a
06-27-2006, 06:28 PM
cant u use a normal heatsink for a 5 watt led? like a heatsink made up of washers

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xwingband
06-27-2006, 07:28 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by 987654321a

cant u use a normal heatsink for a 5 watt led? like a heatsink made up of washers

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Yes, but it'd have to be big. I'll put this in perspective: Tim's normal blade holder heatsink combo is not enough. You need to add a 1" finned heatsink if you are using a sink tube and NEED the ribbed extension if going MHS.

If possible since a washer one is not as good (not solid), perhaps get copper washers? I'm not sure if they'd carry threaded rods or bolts in copper.

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LAN-ED-TUL
06-27-2006, 10:04 PM
well, i did get my filters in the mail early this week. i already used one out of it. the white diffuser for the red rocker that come with my portumac rots lightboard kit. now i just have to save up a bit, and get me a white lux to try these filters out on. id like to try the lux 5 or a k2. i dont care bout the sound on this one, so i can run right off the resistor and batteries.

i just wonder tho, on the lux 5 just how much heatsinking id have to have if all i run was the batteries, resistor, and switch?
would tims stock holder be enough, i wonder?

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Do-Clo
06-27-2006, 10:19 PM
I built a 5 watt using Tim's holder and a Luxdrive led driver and it worked great, no problems with heat.

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O-B 1
06-28-2006, 09:29 AM
Just received my filters. I kept mailing mail@leefilters.com for some reason. Than, they told me to ask the same request to sales@leefilters.com I can't wait to pop it into my k2. Still waiting for the optics and holder.

Quick question, does the filter go in the blade, or do you slip it in between the blade and led like Tims color disks? Its a slip of transluscent paper so I thought you slip it in the blade itself. Right?

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Do-Clo
06-28-2006, 10:15 AM
The filter is a small peice of material, I put mine right on top of the optics so that it doesn't move or you could put it in the base of the blade holder.

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Mi Gin Gonn
06-28-2006, 10:24 AM
yup, what Do-Clo said...just set the filter on top of your optics and put in the blade, just make sure the filter is big enough to cover the optics completely.

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O-B 1
06-28-2006, 02:26 PM
Its day right now, but wow! The lee filters are awesome. I just finished my optics too. I'll take some pics tonight if I get the chance. Daylight kills the saber. I can't wait until night.

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987654321a
06-29-2006, 07:58 PM
damn its been a week or so and i still havent gotten my LEE filters

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What
06-29-2006, 08:53 PM
I recieved mine yesterday! [:D] Cant wait to finish my saber to see these in action!

Yoiaholic
06-30-2006, 11:02 PM
HOLY INSANLY BRIGHT!!!! Guys if you don't have a K2 you don't know what you are missing!

I've tried red since it is going into my curved saber and thats a great color, but wow without a filter it is insanely bright [8D]

I'll get some pics later I'm having too much fun with this. Thesteve you really deserve mega props for finding these filters [:D]

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987654321a
06-30-2006, 11:15 PM
well i just recieved my green 5 watt led

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Mi Gin Gonn
07-01-2006, 10:26 AM
Actually, Yoi, I turned the_steve onto the Lee Filters, and Ultra (I think) originally mentioned them on TFN's LED thread. Nitpicky, I know...just wanna give credit where it's due. But either way, they do rock. Post some pics soon man.

Hey, where is Little the_steve Van Zandt lately? Ain't seen him around. He must be at summer camp or something making all the other kids totally jealous of his sabers. [8D]

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Yoiaholic
07-01-2006, 11:05 AM
I'm sorry, I stand corrected.


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Beatboxer
07-01-2006, 10:43 PM
I still haven't got mine and e-mailed them over two weeks ago.:(

I guess I'll have to try again.

Do-Clo
07-02-2006, 06:42 AM
When I got mine it only took a few days to get them from when the email was sent and they arived in the mail.

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LAN-ED-TUL
07-02-2006, 03:14 PM
mine took 2 or 3 weeks, i cant remember for sure.

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987654321a
07-02-2006, 03:33 PM
i dont even have a white led lol!!!

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LAN-ED-TUL
07-02-2006, 11:39 PM
neither do i, what does that matter, get the filters, then get a led. no rocket science there.

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987654321a
07-03-2006, 01:15 PM
yeah i just got my filters yesterday! and ill be ordering a white k2 star from ledsupply.com

EDIT- WOW SHIPPING TAKES 4-6 WEEKS!!! ILL JUST GET THE FEDEX 2 DAY DELIVERY OPTION I NEED THIS FOR COMIC-CON!!!

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Yoiaholic
07-03-2006, 01:22 PM
Ummm I have no idea what option you chose. I got mine in 2 days, with the USPS.

The total was 15.99 for shipping, a k2 and optics.

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Mi Gin Gonn
07-03-2006, 01:29 PM
mine arrived in 4 days. the_steve's arrived in, well, click back to page 1. maybe we're overwhelming Lee, lol...i somehow doubt it.

Look, they're FREE! so quit yer bitchin' alraedy

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Yoiaholic
07-03-2006, 01:33 PM
I'm refering to the LED.

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987654321a
07-03-2006, 01:38 PM
heres the link. read it and u will understand. http://www.ledsupply.com/05027-pw14.html read where it says availability.


btw should i get the high current one or low current?

EDIT- one more question is the 3 degree lens gonna work fine? or should i get one of those sub lens's?

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Yoiaholic
07-03-2006, 01:46 PM
I guess we bought them all


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987654321a
07-03-2006, 01:48 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by 987654321a



btw should i get the high current one or low current?

EDIT- one more question is the 3 degree lens gonna work fine? or should i get one of those sub lens's?


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did u even answer my question?

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Yoiaholic
07-03-2006, 01:49 PM
You'll want the high one I think. You should ask corbin or someone else about the lens though. I just use the 20mm ones.

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987654321a
07-03-2006, 01:50 PM
o ok and do they sell them at ledsupply?

edit-found it. wait a sec arent they those TCSS optics?

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Yoiaholic
07-03-2006, 01:54 PM
They sell a specific base for the K2, you can use the TCSS optics but unless you alter the holder you need the special one.

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987654321a
07-03-2006, 02:21 PM
can u gimme a link of all that stuff?

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Yoiaholic
07-03-2006, 02:29 PM
http://www.ledsupply.com/l2-oh-k2.html

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james3
07-03-2006, 09:05 PM
You know countdown that you could get a 5 watt star from Tim being that he does have those and since your on on left side you should have it pretty quick.

Hmmm. what an idea!

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987654321a
07-03-2006, 09:34 PM
but he doesnt have it in white
and i dont have enough money for that

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Mi Gin Gonn
07-04-2006, 08:36 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Yoiaholic

I'm refering to the LED.
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oh, my bad. i was speed-reading, lol [:p]

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the_steve
07-13-2006, 11:15 AM
GUYS! I am really alive, sorry, i just haven't bothered to check up here lately. I did got to camp, but only for a week. I need to start coming back here more often. [:D][:D][:D]

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WeirdoTransvestite
07-13-2006, 01:38 PM
Return of the_steve.

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987654321a
07-13-2006, 01:41 PM
i ordered a white 3w led from ledsupply.com and it wasnt as bright as it should be. i know a k2 was brighter but i didnt want to wait 4-6 weeks

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Mi Gin Gonn
07-13-2006, 04:03 PM
welcome back el steveo. did you take yer sabers to camp & make everybody jealous?



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james3
07-13-2006, 05:58 PM
Hey Steve, glad yer back. Hope all went well.

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the_steve
07-14-2006, 11:32 AM
Nah can't take my sabers to camp. But it would have been funny to have turned it on in the middle of the night.[:D]

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WeirdoTransvestite
07-20-2006, 04:24 PM
My filters just arrived this morning. I must say I'm impressed with the amount of colors that come with it. Too bad a lot of them aren't of much use.

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Mi Gin Gonn
07-20-2006, 06:41 PM
WT-

I had no trouble finding every saber color you could want, but yeah you gotta sift thru them. A lot of the filters don't look good illuminated, and the light transmission rates vary significantly. Just do what I did and hold each one between your lit hilt and the blade, and jot down a note on the paper backing.



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SilentBob501
08-06-2006, 11:31 AM
Ok I know this a tad off subject but everyone here is talking about these k2s from ledsupply. My question is if i buy a white K2 do i need to get any additional mounting or optics or can I use the basic electronics kit from tim that I already have? Also, which one should i get, the high or low? Keep in mind im running the led off of the MR sound board (i know its not as good, but it was easier to set up)if that makes a difference.

xwingband
08-06-2006, 12:50 PM
Get a 3W. The low ones aren't any better and the high ones can't be driven to it's full lumens. A 3W will not give you any trouble with optics and in many cases be brighter (Only the high binned ones [high current] would run better than a 3W at the same amerage like 700ma).

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supertrogdor
08-07-2006, 03:54 PM
anyone have a comment on 3W vs. 5W white, with all the K2 jabber going on here, if anyone had a comparison between a 3W and a 5W white picture i thing we would all be interested
a few filtered pic comparisons would not go awry either
cheers

Mi Gin Gonn
08-07-2006, 09:53 PM
sorry, supertrogdor, i don't have a 3-watt white, but my 5-watt white pics are on p.2 of this thread. i posted this elsewhere (so if you've seen it already my apoligies), but here's the 5-watt w/green Lee filter vs. a cyan 3-watt:

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HiddenMooCow
08-08-2006, 08:49 AM
Wow, that is a really nice green! [:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]

Jedi_Niklus
08-16-2006, 04:33 PM
Hmmm.. I'll have to try that one out too. I sent an e mail Sunday, so I should be getting the swatch book in any day now[:D] Pics with then follow

DACOTA
01-18-2007, 11:43 AM
How come you guys cut the filters in squares,or do you cut them in circles?

xwingband
01-18-2007, 12:18 PM
I always cut mine in circles... it's easier to start with a square though and round out the corners. If you cut circles there'd be some wasted space anyway.

DACOTA
01-20-2007, 03:18 PM
That makes sence,cool.

DACOTA
02-11-2007, 11:20 AM
Hey, just got my swatchbook yesterday.

37H4N
03-13-2007, 11:39 AM
I just ordered me a swatch book today. Can't to get it!

Marsupial
03-13-2007, 12:39 PM
being in Canada, I had to order via an alternate site. Anybody outside of US ordered the book?

Madcow
03-13-2007, 07:26 PM
I did
I got two in the mail when I lived on Vancouver Island. But that was last year sometime.

MC

Marsupial
03-13-2007, 08:13 PM
'cause they are forwarding me to their montreal distributor. I feel like a ping pong ball.
So far its from lee USA to lee Canada to the montreal distributor.




Anyone tried them over colored luxeons? maybe a blue filter + red luxeon for a purple output??

vortextwist
03-13-2007, 08:15 PM
I didn't like the filters. They just seemed to block the light too much. I might not have used the right shades but still turned me off of them.

xwingband
03-13-2007, 08:18 PM
Doesn't work that way... white has are of the frequencies and is filtering out all but those we want. Blue over Red (or vice versa) won't work because there are no common wavelengths in there.

If you were trying to change the tone of a color with a similar one... like toning down the green in a cyan LED it might be okay, but the opposites mixing sucks big time.

Marsupial
03-14-2007, 09:56 AM
d'oh!
it makes sense.

Ryma Mara
03-14-2007, 10:24 AM
Just an idea here, I dont know nothign about wavelengths and stuff like that.

But what if you pick the colors according to the wavelengths that match the wavelengths of the led?

LordArgyll
03-14-2007, 01:20 PM
That would be a red filter over a red LED, similar to what xwingband just described (cyan is blue + green, a blue filter would decrease the amount of green in the cyan). Other than that subtle tinting, what would be the point? You'd still have a loss of light intensity.

Remember that a Lee filter is literally that... a filter. White light is made up of RGB components. A red Lee filter allows only the Red wavelengths to pass through, blocking the Green and Blue. Therefore, the light you get is only maybe 1/3 as intense since 2/3s of the light is being blocked by the filter.

In the previous example, putting a blue filter over a red LED... a blue filter blocks the green and red wavelengths. Putting a blue filter over a red LED means that it is blocking ALL of the light passing through.

Lee filters don't ADD color to the light... the SUBTRACT from it. The color you see is what is left after that subtraction.

Ryma Mara
03-14-2007, 03:32 PM
No what I ment was in the swatch book of filters they have a wavelength thing on it. what if you get a filter thats int eh same area of a white leds wavelength.

neophyl
03-14-2007, 04:02 PM
White leds cover a whole range of wavelengths. Thats why they are classified by K (Kelvin, equivalent hue of the white light produced when compared with normal bulb sources, its a lighting industry standard).

Wavelength = colour. All a filter does it let certain wavelengths pass through it while stopping the rest. Theres no point in matching a filter to a non white led except to tweak the shade slightly as was already pointed out.

When you 'see' an object, say red for example. Its red because the substance its surface is made from absorbs all the other wavelengths except the red ones (approx 660nm). A black object absorbs alot more of the spectrum thereby appearing black. Technically theres no such colour as black, its merely the absence of most of the wavelengths of light that we can see.

elrond.406
04-03-2007, 05:47 PM
Just ordered.

Lord Maul
04-03-2007, 05:50 PM
what sabers do you have elrond that you would need a filter for?

elrond.406
04-03-2007, 05:53 PM
what sabers do you have elrond that you would need a filter for?

I've got two, a white lux o and a red lux 3. Planning for a blue K2...

Lord Maul
04-03-2007, 05:56 PM
http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_pics.gif

come on elrond.
we want pics

elrond.406
04-03-2007, 06:07 PM
http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_pics.gif

come on elrond.
we want pics

I told you. :wink:

Marsupial
04-03-2007, 07:46 PM
I haven't got any response from the montreal retailer, and didn't get any samples so far.

I guess its not available here :(

Novastar
04-12-2007, 01:51 PM
White leds cover a whole range of wavelengths. Thats why they are classified by K (Kelvin, equivalent hue of the white light produced when compared with normal bulb sources, its a lighting industry standard).

Wavelength = colour. All a filter does it let certain wavelengths pass through it while stopping the rest. Theres no point in matching a filter to a non white led except to tweak the shade slightly as was already pointed out.

When you 'see' an object, say red for example. Its red because the substance its surface is made from absorbs all the other wavelengths except the red ones (approx 660nm). A black object absorbs alot more of the spectrum thereby appearing black. Technically theres no such colour as black, its merely the absence of most of the wavelengths of light that we can see.You guys should really pay attention to this information. Phil is TOTALLY on the ball with it.

Also, do not forget that every LED... ALSO has a range of coloration in nm... this is what makes one "green" different from the next.

When ordering LEDs, it is unlikely you will get the EXACT same specification on (let's say) 5 green Luxeon IIIs... because they probably won't come from the same product run. During manufacturing of LEDs, not everything is perfect. Sometimes one "blue" comes out... uh... "bluer" than another blue. One wavelength is 475, another is 450... so sue them.

This is another reason why you'll hear "conflicting" stories on what color is "better". Well, when you compare a MEASURED 530nm Green LED to a (let's say) 515nm Green... you've got a big visual difference. Some will say that green looks "teal". Others will say HOLY COW, my green is SWEET. Differing nm values. ACTUAL values, not the "typical" ones listed on the luxeon websites.

FILTERS: Applying the same filter on differing LEDs will naturally give differing results! Sometimes, they will be unsatisfying. If you take Phil's advice, you'll work to really "dial" your filter in.

BUT... that is A LOT of work just to get some watered down, filtered-arse color. I for one think you can achieve almost any color just fine (I have a "Royal Blue" that looks VERY purple to me)... but it ends up the luck of the draw on LED bins bought... unless you order thousands at a time, such as what Corbin or Tim have mentioned you need to do in order to "select" an exact bin of an LED.

*WHEW* A lot of work just to get some color alteration. :)

I say skip the filters, get a great colored LED and buy replacements over time until you really get the "right" blue or cyan or whatever... for YOU! Experiment with colors that are "next" to one another. In other words, cyan vs. blue... or blue vs. royal blue. You'll be surprised.

They are cheap enough at what... $6? each?

Marsupial
04-12-2007, 10:37 PM
They are cheap enough at what... $6? each?

yeah, they are cheaper nowadays.

Darth_Constantine
06-06-2007, 03:57 PM
is there still a way to get the numeric swatchbook from lee filters for free? I sent them an e-mail and i got a notice from gmail that they can't deliver the e-mail to "mail@leefilters.com" because it doesn't exist any longer.

Novastar
06-06-2007, 05:44 PM
it's leefiltersusa...

Darth_Constantine
06-06-2007, 05:53 PM
aha! of course it is, i'm such an idiot!

Darth_Constantine
06-06-2007, 06:35 PM
sorry for the double post, but just wondering, about how long did it take some of you guys in the U.S. to receive your filters?

vortextwist
06-06-2007, 07:02 PM
a few weeks, there is an edit button you can use.

Novastar
06-06-2007, 07:05 PM
And by the way Darth C... you're not an idiot! Don't say that!

Everyone makes mistakes. I counted at least 10 in the BOP II footage from BayCon... :D

Marsupial
06-06-2007, 09:04 PM
I still have not managed to get a swatchbook in Canada.

I'm moving soon, I'll try again with the new address.

Darth_Constantine
06-07-2007, 09:21 AM
yeah i know, i use it all the time. Just didn't feel like it.

TimeRender
06-07-2007, 09:34 AM
A while back on another topic I discussed the possibility of a dual colored blade by using a dual tube design with two lee filters on a white LED. The main filter would be shaped like a doughnut with a secondary filter filling in the doughnut hole. The result would hopefully be that the inner tube is a slightly different color than the outer tube. I haven't been able to test this, however, because I don't own a dual tube blade.

Anyway, I just had an idea a few minutes ago about a way to create a WHITE CORED BLADE using this same method. Suppose the outer doughnut filter was red, and the inner filter was blue/green. Where these colors overlap you should have rgb light combining to form white light, while still having a red halo of light surrounding the inner tube. Perhaps after work I will draw up a diagram to explain what I mean, but I'm already late as it is. Let me know what you think.

Darth_Constantine
06-07-2007, 09:39 AM
true, i guess i'm not, i do to many many many stupid things though. the prime example would be that at age 7 i drank battery acid because i thought it was water.. (talk about stupid) miraculously i was unaffected by it.

Novastar
06-07-2007, 01:51 PM
A while back on another topic I discussed the possibility of a dual colored blade by using a dual tube design with two lee filters on a white LED. The main filter would be shaped like a doughnut with a secondary filter filling in the doughnut hole. The result would hopefully be that the inner tube is a slightly different color than the outer tube. I haven't been able to test this, however, because I don't own a dual tube blade.

Anyway, I just had an idea a few minutes ago about a way to create a WHITE CORED BLADE using this same method. Suppose the outer doughnut filter was red, and the inner filter was blue/green. Where these colors overlap you should have rgb light combining to form white light, while still having a red halo of light surrounding the inner tube. Perhaps after work I will draw up a diagram to explain what I mean, but I'm already late as it is. Let me know what you think.I tried that about a year ago on a white 3w with a light filter of purple/violet/pinkish/whatever... basically tried drilling a hole in the center of one of the TCSS plastic discs... and then a myriad of other things such as a sort of "array" of smaller holes in the center...

It KIND OF worked, but the brightness was awful. So, I had to sack the idea of giving Siah (Sihdaestra in BOP I) a purple/violet blade.

What I SHOULD have done--is have gone royal blue and prayed for the "deeper" royal blues. Combine that with the right diffuser film and it'd be passable.

Or... try the Lee Filters. Timerender... good luck with it, tell me how it turns out... wasn't effective from the ways I tried it.

vortextwist
06-07-2007, 01:55 PM
i have a set i'm not gonna use mars if your interested when you move and get no replies

987654321a
06-07-2007, 03:38 PM
i got mine like a year back, and it took them a week to send.

TimeRender
06-07-2007, 03:40 PM
I tried that about a year ago on a white 3w with a light filter of purple/violet/pinkish/whatever... basically tried drilling a hole in the center of one of the TCSS plastic discs... and then a myriad of other things such as a sort of "array" of smaller holes in the center...

It KIND OF worked, but the brightness was awful. So, I had to sack the idea of giving Siah (Sihdaestra in BOP I) a purple/violet blade.

What I SHOULD have done--is have gone royal blue and prayed for the "deeper" royal blues. Combine that with the right diffuser film and it'd be passable.

Or... try the Lee Filters. Timerender... good luck with it, tell me how it turns out... wasn't effective from the ways I tried it.

That's not exactly what I'm talking about. I don't just mean poking holes in the middle of a filter, I mean poking holes and then filling them with another filter. Using a red blade as an example, the outer tube would be red and the inner tube would be blue-green. Where the blue green and the red overlap at the center of the blade the light should appear white, but the rest of the outer blade will be red. I'll try drawing it.

xwingband
06-07-2007, 06:08 PM
Even with a dual tube the poking holes is very difficult. Due to the beam no being straight (angled by the lens) the colors will not blend as nicely as you think. Stuff at the edge matter much less while the center is super important.

Novastar
06-07-2007, 07:13 PM
Echoing what X-wing said here... that is basically why it didn't work. I never actually thought it would, but as with many things... never hurts to TRY something.

Or, hmm I guess that means DO something... that doesn't necessarily work... heheh

But I think this is a cool idea--I'm sure there might someday be a way to do what you're thinking.

Perhaps an array of Lux Rebels one day? And probably isolated an outer ring of (say red) with its "own" diffuser... and then an INNER ring of (say green). ANyhow.

Marsupial
06-07-2007, 08:12 PM
i have a set i'm not gonna use mars if your interested when you move and get no replies

I'd be very interested.

It seams to be very difficult in Montreal: when I reached Lee USA they forwarded me to Lee Canada; in return they forwarded me to a montreal reseller that never took actions or answered my emails.

I am hoping that my new location might help as Lee Canada might not put me in contact with those nay-doers but with some pro-active people, but I'll still be in the Montreal area.

If you have a set (even partial) you're not using, I'd be very happy to get my hand on it.

DACOTA
06-14-2007, 05:31 PM
I had a question.I'll go ask erv this also but are plecterlabs colored discs the same as tims or are they as good as lee filters?

vortextwist
06-14-2007, 05:56 PM
i have a set i'm not gonna use mars if your interested when you move and get no replies

I'd be very interested.

It seams to be very difficult in Montreal: when I reached Lee USA they forwarded me to Lee Canada; in return they forwarded me to a montreal reseller that never took actions or answered my emails.

I am hoping that my new location might help as Lee Canada might not put me in contact with those nay-doers but with some pro-active people, but I'll still be in the Montreal area.

If you have a set (even partial) you're not using, I'd be very happy to get my hand on it.

just let me know man.

Marsupial
01-09-2008, 01:45 PM
I finally managed to get a lee filter swatch book!!!

w00t!

in fact, I got the designer book and the cinematographer book.

homestly, the cinematographer swatches are of little use to us compared to the designer book.