el VS led

[ztrox93]

What is better El or Led?Tell me why.

Zach Watkins

[suit_man]

do some reading, use the search feature. there is also a thread index and FAQ, xwing spent lots of time on them, you should give them a try instead of expecting people to bottle feed you.

i am a nerd, if you don't like it, i will cut you with my lightsaber

[WeirdoTransvestite]

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http://thecustomsabershop.com/sabers/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=807
http://thecustomsabershop.com/sabers/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=479
http://thecustomsabershop.com/sabers/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=245

Found using the search. It's not that hard to use.

EDIT: Ambo's right, I shouldn't have been so harsh before, everyone makes this mistake at least once.

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[Ambo]

Thanx man...it takes a big person to admit it....my compliments.




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[ztrox93]

Sorry I should have searched


Zach Watkins

[987654321a]

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[Ambo]

Its okay, now ya know, just learn from it and move on...and if you have any questions u cant figure out....drop into chat real quick becaue you wont get slammed for askin in there....normally





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[987654321a]

omg how come u guys dropped down on me when i was nooby??? how come ur nice to this guy???hmm???? oh well its all good lol

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[xwingband]

We were nice on the first thread too.[:p] Remember double saber in EL... Fool me once no one is to blame, fool me twice shame on you, fool me thrice shame on me.[:D]

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[LAN-ED-TUL]

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[xwingband]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by LAN-ED-TUL

post dumb questions, x-wing will git ya!!!

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Well that makes me sound mean... I think the little adage there covers it well.

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[987654321a]

lol

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[WeirdoTransvestite]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by xwingband

We were nice on the first thread too.[:p] Remember double saber in EL... Fool me once no one is to blame, fool me twice shame on you, fool me thrice shame on me.[:D]
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Maybe it's time to break out the Proton Torpedoes, those Blasters just ain't cuttin it anymore.

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[LAN-ED-TUL]

i was only kiddin x-wing.

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[987654321a]

speakin of EL and LED, im sellin my EL lightsaber on Ebay for any of u guys that wanna buy.


heres the item number
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[Firebird21]

Damn... I've been slacking lately.

[:p]

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[naashar]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by xwingband

We were nice on the first thread too.[:p] Remember double saber in EL... Fool me once no one is to blame, fool me twice shame on you, fool me thrice shame on me.[:D]
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Guys, X is being nicer than I would've been in the past..I typically skip right to the "fool me once, shame on you"..[:(!]

..No one gets Three chances with me. On serious stuff, that is![:D]



You don't need to see any identification.

[ztrox93]

you all have to be patient i'm only 13 and i've only been in this forum for about 3 or 4 days

Zach Watkins

[WeirdoTransvestite]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Firebird21

Damn... I've been slacking lately.
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You know what your problem is? You're a slacker! You'll never amount to anything, just like your old man. No Firebird has ever amounted to anything in the history of CSS.

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[shiky]

god has that guy ever had hair?

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by james3

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Is this a start to a good De-Railment? It's lookin' suspicious[;)]<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Already done. This thread is being commandeered by the De-Railment unit, and will be changed into a... Back to the Future quote thread!

[Zhi-don]

ATTENTION!

As senior member [as far as I know, by actual age not length of time here] of this bunch of reprobates [yeah, I don't know what this word means either] I declare this thread to be offically un-derailed [is this a real word?].

LED is better than EL anyway, in my humble [well, honest]opinion.

Reason: cheaper [less blade and saber cost, battery cost] easier to build, easier add sound to [more room] more durable [yeah, I even broke a Parks blade] easier to customize [thanks to Tim and the MHS]

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[ztrox93]

thanks zhi-don I just wanted honest opinions

Zach Watkins

[james3]

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[Zhi-don]

*Ignoring James*

You're welcome, I didn't want you to think that we were all "Chicken!"

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[james3]

are ya callin me chicken?!

In all seriousness though how in the world could there need to be a discussion on what someone feels is better when it is completely subjective and has been beat to death all over this forum.

I have added it up a few times and for a one color saber complete EL is still cheaper but the difference is irrelevent. We actually talked about this just a week or two ago and a EL MHS vs a LED MHS is preference.

Since every friggin new teeny bopper that comes on here lately only seems to know how to make a bunch of mis-spelled posts and get spoon fed everything while still not comprehending I reckon I will just throw my hands in the air and say screw it.

This is from the http://thecustomsabershop.com/sabers/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=538

Okies, our goal is to make a through description of EL and LED so that saber new comers and novices will have a description that can guide them to what is best for their needs. We need to be concise and unbiased in our evaluation. This will eventually make it's way to making a "build your saber type" of program that will help people through getting all their parts in the store.

I will post a first draft in this post. The final and working drafts will come from here also.

Here's the description:

Every lighted saber is made up of two main parts; The blade and the hilt. There are two main styles of sabers available from here. These two lighting methods are EL and LED. The following briefly describes the two in order to help you decide which way to go.

EL (Electroluminescence)

EL is a wire that glows when an electric current is applied. The color is determined by the color of wire inside the blade. You have probably encountered EL before as the backlight of a watch.

EL saber blades use up to 17 feet of wire inside a 3/4" Polycarbonate blade. The wire itself is disguised by a diffuser of HD polyethylene tubing. This opaque tubing disguises the wire, yet allows light to filter through.

EL's advantages are its even color and easy of color changing. All it takes is switching a blade to change the color. Some colors, however, are fairly dull compared to others. EL's brightness is affected by the voltage and can be safely run at 9-18V.

LEDs (Light Emitting Diodes)

In The Custom Saber Shop, Luxeon LEDs are used. They are the bigger brother of the LEDs in keychain lights. LEDs in sabers are basically powerful flashlights. The color is determined by the LED in the hilt. A Polycarbonate blade is used to contain the light. In LEDs a diffuser and optics are also used to direct the light up the tube.

LEDs are brighter than the brightest EL. The downside is that the color is not even (the light will fade the longer the blade, yet the base will be extremely bright). This also gives the white core and colored aura that is more accurate to the movie sabers as opposed to EL's solid color.

Changing colors is not as easy but there are two options: The Modular Hilt system using a quick change kit, and colored discs.

* The quick change works by disconnecting the LED and replacing it with another colored one. The quick change's disadvantage is that is requires unscrewing the blade holder and unplugging the LED.
* The color discs work by using a white LED. Changing colors is achieved by removing the blade and placing the filter over the LED and optics. The disadvantage is that a filtered LED will always be less bright than the pure LED of that color.



Summary

EL is more of a solid tone along the length, while LED fades toward the tip and has a flare at the base. LED is brighter even at its dimmest spot compared to EL. If you want the ability to change colors with different blades EL has an edge.
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Better is up to you to decide, plunk down some cash in Tim's store and build some sabers and maybe then you will be able to form your own opinion of which is better or maybe you will be one of the few that enjoys both for their merits.



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[Zhi-don]

Uh...not quite.

I've tested LED vs EL as in J-lo's EL vs Alex's LED blade. Although Alex's blade was brighter at the base, it was the same brightness as Lori's at the end.

You forgot to mention blade size as in 1 inch LED [at least until we can prove it can be done with a thinner blade] vs 3/4 EL.

I'm sure that there are other things I'm not mentioning such as MR sound vs Hasbro sound etc.

No...I wasn't calling you "chicken!" You don't look anything like a chicken. I was just getting this thread re-railed. That's what this place is all about. Opinions....ideas....thoughts....without these, we would have nothing but a dream. If someone asks a question, then we should all chime in....or at the least point them to another thread. Xwing....I think that's your job.

A really good summary with all the different variations listed is a mighty fine idea. It's gonna take a lot of mods to get the final version, but once done it should sweet!

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[xwingband]

What colors were you comparing it too? Lime is pretty decent the rest well they generally suck next to the LED even at the dim spot.

Like if you made a Lime next to a filtered 3W green the Lime wouldn't seem to be very different. However stick a Red 3W next to Red EL and suckage... especially if you ramp that suckers amperage up.

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[james3]

Chicken thing was I thought that you were still using BTTF lines so let's forget about it no harm no fowl[:D]

Lime and Aqua EL are pretty darn brite driven at 12 and 18 volts with Tim's stuff. Pink and Purple EL are just incredible again in 12 or 18 volts with using Tim's parts. xwing pretty much nailed it with the post he did, comparing a red EL to a red LED is going to have HUGE results but blue EL vs green LED or whatever mixed combo can kinda mess it up a bit.

Truth is both are great for different reasons and both can really be a pain for again different reasons. While it is true that the small strand of wire soldered for an EL blade can break, it can also be repaired. The flip to that is if a LED surges (very rare) or grounds out then it is junk but of course it is only 10 bucks plus some shipping so no big right?



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[ztrox93]

I've made up my mind I am going to use a 3 watt royal blue luxeon with my graflex.

Zach Watkins

[Madcow]

Good call Zach,
I personally think that the standard blue looks a little brighter than the Royal blue, but I have them both, and they are sweet.

Good luck.

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[LAN-ED-TUL]

yeah, another lux converted person. lux's rule!!!!!

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[james3]

Royal Blue and a Graflex! It just don't get much better then that, Good call.

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[ztrox93]

HELLS YEAH[:D]

Zach Watkins

[ztrox93]

what is a good way to get a good white core efect with a royal blue lux.

Zach Watkins

[james3]

Take a picture or movie of yourself with your saber and then rotoscope it in your favorite photo editing program[;)]

Yes, I am saying that for sarcasm but really, there is no cheap, easy, or good way to do it that I have found so far. xwing could point you in the direction of the thread were he discussed one option and I have been playing with EL/LED combos but have not gotten what I wanted yet. To bad that lightsabers werent color in the middle and white on the aura.

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[xwingband]

Read the "Improved Dual Tube" in Corbin's Saber Manual (http://www.corbinscomponents.com/manual21.pdf).

It has it's drawbacks, but is the ONLY way to get a white core. It involves a white LED too...[xx(]

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[ztrox93]

I saw in led blade colors in royal blue the first one on there by hajime looked realy good .I liked the core .

Zach Watkins

[xwingband]

Oh... that's just a camera trick. It's not actually there. That's the camera being "overexposed" and making it appear white.

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[ztrox93]

CRAP


Zach Watkins

[james3]

Ambo's pics in the Royal Blue are pretty close. especially the full daaylight one. If you look in the blue section Tim made a good shot and if you look at mine it is a fair representation although my blue was a almost cyan bin so I had since switcched that to cyan. anyway look through the pics and you will see what we mean. don't get discuraged though, it is still wicked looking and as long as you do your part and feed it the right current you will be happy.

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[ztrox93]

SORRY NOOB question what is a current.and who has done the dual tube I would realy like to see pics please.
if you have them.


Zach Watkins

[xwingband]

Probably no one except Corbin has them. That stuff is old... plus the whole rattling thing pretty much killed it when Corbin started his film.

Current... well, that the amount of energy going through. Voltage isn't what kills you it's the amount of current.[;)] Some like 9V's are high in voltage and low in current. In sabers the current either makes it brighter in the case of LEDs or in general determines how long your batteries last. Like 1500mAh batteries will last longer than 1000mAh ones.

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[ztrox93]

i know it is an electrical current but what would be the best is what i am asking

Zach Watkins

[xwingband]

Best for what?

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[ztrox93]

Sorry I keep on doing this I forgot to refresh the page

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[ztrox93]

I mean what batteries.

Zach Watkins

[xwingband]

On batteries and current, higher is always better. It will make your saber run longer.

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[ztrox93]

so what aa,aaa,c,d,Etc. what has thet highest current and is best for led?


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[Do-Clo]

Size is always a factor when considering batteries, D cells have the highest current but take up the most space. I have found that AA cells work fine and will fit into most hilts.

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[xwingband]

Yeah, they're all the same voltage so it really doesn't matter. The limit is those of your hilt. If you are going non-rechargable then it may seem pointless but the ones like the e2's, titaniums, and lithiums do last longer.

If you have no problem making a battery pack each time those C123's are small and pack a whalop.[:)] Same with the similar sized ones that have a plastic holder on them.

For rechargables, look on the package. The higher the mAh the better. 2500mAh is the common. There are 2650mAh I've been seeing a lot more but they're not worth the extra. I'm looking for some of these 3200mAh ones that I KNOW exist, but have yet to find.

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[james3]

I have to add something to this.

xwing has given you some kick arse info and when it comes to the batteries it is dead on thast you want as much moho as possible. What I was speaking of on the current subject had to do with what you fed to the LED. I am going to try to explain this as clearly as possible if I go off just smack me in the head[B)]

You want to have as close as possible the maximum current that the LED can take so you get the maximum brightness. For example if you are doing the white, blue family, or green LED in your saber then you want to hit 1000 ma on your LED. now using a resistor, You would want to get it as close to spec as possible. Here is an example of a 6 volt (4 batteries) and a 4.5 volt (3 batteries) setup:

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With the resistors shown in this you would go to Tim's store and notice that for the 4.5 volt setup his stock has the perfect resistor and for the 6 volt setup there is a good choice, the 2.2 ohm 5 watt resistor. This will work but is not perfect as you lose a bit of your forward voltage with the high watt rating. This is minimum but it nonetheless it is there. One could argue that a 4.5 volt saber would be brighter then the 6 volt one with the same LED. To make things worse you can get a buck puck or Corbin's board which is in Tim's store and forget about it[;)]

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[Do-Clo]

Ah Buck Puck the ultimate way to go.

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[james3]

My fav is the wired buckpuck. Have you used that one yet? It is as simple as a micro puck so you don't have to deal with the harness and pins. And I won't get in to the control wiring[:p]

I hope I didn't ramble too much. I actually am about to order and make a couple of 4.5 watt jobs. As much as I love the drivers it seems some folks just say screw it give me the resistor.[|)]

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[darthdan]

Sorry if this has been thoroughly discussed before, I couldn't find a whole lot by a search. What is the major advantage to a buck puck? Longer run time? Less batteries needed? Is it only for 1 or 5 watt lux's?
Is there a reson Tim doesn't carry them?

"set the gearshift for the high gear of your soul..."

[987654321a]

a buckpuck is basically a driver and runs the led on exactly 1000ma or 2000ma and it doesnt gradually get dim, it sucks up the juice of the battery and then gets dim, and eventually dies out, and plus the advantage of a buckpuck is you use only 2 AAs

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[darthdan]

If only using 2 AA's do you still get the same runtime?

"set the gearshift for the high gear of your soul..."

[james3]

HOLD ON SLIGHTLY WRONG INFO ALERT!!!!!!

The Micropuck is for 1 watt LED's and runs off of 2 cells, (ex. 2AA) The BuckPuck is a much more versitile beast as it is for either 700ma or 1000ma and requires 5-32 volts depending on the amout of LED's that you are driving. Always remember that with a buckpuck you still want to run at least one battery more then needed to help the driver work at it's best.

Why doesn't Tim carry them? Good question. The only answer I could give on that is a buck puck is an easy 20 bucks and if you are willing to spend that for a driver over the resistor method why not spend the extra 20 and get a Corbin board that would kick a buckpucks arse. But, that's just my guess.

OBTW Yes you can use a 700ma buck puck with a 5watt LED just like you can do a Corbin board with a 5watt[:D]

Hope this helps.

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