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rohgan

05-27-2006, 02:53 PM

I know everyone loves to see a bit of "bling" on their saber, but there are some on here that, as beautiful as they are (looking at Ambo and his aztec-MHS here), are they actually in character for a Jedi? A Sith may well pimp-up his hilt, as the Sith are pure style, but a Jedi? Surely, so long as it is functional, that should be enough? Given their whole philosophy and ethos?

Not saying that there's anything wrong with good-looking hilts, it's just something that I've often wondered about in my visits to these forums.

james3

05-27-2006, 03:12 PM

To take the movie point of veiw some sabers were more elabrate ( Obi-Wan and Mace Windu) and some were more basic (Anakin and Yoda) I think it was more a personal choice how to build the saber as it was the only real thing that a Jedi would have any posessive feelings for as mentioned in the movies and in more detail in the books.

I think following this trend everyone here does both what they like and or what they can, I enjoy looking at all the exotic hilts that are done but I myself am not very artistic and tend to like a practical and simple hilt. My favorite movie hilt is the Maul redo that was used by Mace, and several other Jedi.

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Madcow

05-27-2006, 03:29 PM

Matthew Stover wrote an amazing novel about Mace Windu called "Shatterpoint". In it, he (Mace) muses about how personal his lightsaber is, how he designed every nuance himslf over the course of years.

So Yeah, I think that some Jedi would have an amazing creative design to their sabers, while some would see it merely as a tool.

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naashar

05-28-2006, 10:50 AM

Indeed..here is a link to an article which may answer some questions:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightsaber#Hilt_styles

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GeluKhanGharr

05-30-2006, 01:51 AM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by rohgan

I know everyone loves to see a bit of "bling" on their saber, but there are some on here that, as beautiful as they are (looking at Ambo and his aztec-MHS here), are they actually in character for a Jedi? A Sith may well pimp-up his hilt, as the Sith are pure style, but a Jedi? Surely, so long as it is functional, that should be enough? Given their whole philosophy and ethos.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I have had similar feelings, particularly about Mace's hilt. To a Jedi, a saber IS supposed to be nothing but a tool. So, why the flash, why the bling? Well, in my research of the subject I found an interesting fact - Mace taps into the dark side to augment his power. Maybe that's why he's my least favorite character - he does fight for the "good guys" but he's smeared in darkness. In his case it shows as vanity - lots of bling. And the purple blade has a strong significance - if you mix blue and red you do get purple!

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james3

05-30-2006, 09:13 AM

Gelu I love the point that you make, there is also info that suggests that those on the council can chose to bling it up as a show of status.

Another thing that has always quirked me since day one is that it has been established that the Jedi's only attachment for lack of a better word is the lightsaber. I would guess Big George probally thought of this as a similarity to the swords and shields of our history. (Ben) Obi-Wan Kenobi gave Anakin's saber to Luke while explaining how important they were, Obi-Wan kept Qui-Gon's saber, and reminded Anakin (who obviously just thinks of a lightsaber as his weapon) That "This weapon is your Life". Vader is all excited about his boy building his own lightsaber, which is probally his strongest emotion on the issue. Vader keeps Obi-Wan's lightsaber after their battle on the Death Star. In the Clone Wars part 1 you get treated to the saying that the Jedi have when they build a saber. Luke keep's his old saber when he get's it back along with Qui-gon's, etc. I am sorry for jumping around on the timeline and going in and out with movies and EU but I think that there was a strong attachment to several Jedi and their sabers.

It's a tough thing, on one side it is supposed to be a tool nothing more and therefore you would think that all you need is a few Clan Sabers. On the other side you have a strong attachment to the lightsaber. One of those things that just make you go HMM.

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Do-Clo

05-30-2006, 09:46 AM

In the original movies the lightsabers were plain and simple even Vaders a sith lord was simple in design, pure function. In the new movies we see a more fancy lightsaber being used I understand the reason and that is because the budget was much bigger for the new movies which allowed for more custom props instead of using found stuff to make the props as before. I miss the creativity of using found stuff for a saber, but to each their own. I always considered a Mace to be a girly man with his fancy lightsaber anyway.[:D]

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james3

05-30-2006, 11:10 AM

I would say that the props dept. creating and building a lighsaber out of whatever their minds and the local stores could come up with was by far takes the ingenuities award. On the other side of the coin, the creativeness that has come out with the lathe work has been remarkable. Both have merit.

On of the things I was discussing with my brother's was how perfectly real life played in to the authenticity of the movie.
By the time EP4 happens the galaxy is pretty much poverty stricken since the Emperor knew that with no money came no serious threat. George had to shoot this movie for peanuts and he did an awsome job of making the Empire look so huge and powerful while everyone else was just getting by. As the story progressed you see more "affluent" characters outside of the Empire but they are clearly not the norm.
With the new batch of movies the cost was not relevent and at the same time the galaxy seemed to be a place of wealth, growth, and all that happy stuff.

I know that's just random Bull Snitz why I sit here waiting for the floor guy to show up and measure for carpet but I thought it was a neat tie-in[:D]

As you all know I think Mace is cool, I do however wished that they either had sticked with blue, green, red or had Jedi with yellows and orange pink, purple and all the other colors that are out there in the EU and LED/EL world. Wasn't Plo Kloon's supposed to be yellow or orange?

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Do-Clo

05-30-2006, 11:37 AM

Intersting concept James about the monetary condition before and after the Empire rule. I really had not consider that, but it sorta make sense. So you are waiting on the carpet guys booring, how much more to go before you can list the homestead?

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james3

05-30-2006, 12:16 PM

Getting real close. I have some of the standard springtime outside stuff to do. Most likely will get the powerwashing of the house and roof tomorrow. A buddy of mine was doing his house this weekend so he still needs to bring that back and I think he is going to help me hang a new rear gutter. I pulled it down a few years ago when I noticed some boards were bad and never bothered to put it back up. I prefer the mist makers but you can't find those around here. A little outside painting should tidy up nice, and of course the good ole landscaping. The front yard is pretty good since that is my area to take care of but the kids claimed the backyard and that has bare dirt pretty much so I reckon I will be a while on that. The carpet installers will be here next Thursday so I will most likely get 'er listed on the 10th of June. Out front is starting to look like a new development since I have a construction dumpster on site and a SmartBox coming.

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GeluKhanGharr

05-30-2006, 02:38 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by james3

I pulled it down a few years ago when I noticed some boards were bad and never bothered to put it back up. I prefer the mist makers but you can't find those around here. 
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desertscorpion

05-30-2006, 03:09 PM

That's a good question. I'm not sure how the Jedi philosophy addresses how extravagant a lightsaber is.... I don't think that the jedi take a vow of complete poverty, though. Plus, I couldn't see building a lightsaber out of second-rate stuff, if other materials are available. Plus, a certain level of personalization would be required to keep from getting mixed up, if that situation, however rare, should ever arise.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by rohgan

I know everyone loves to see a bit of "bling" on their saber, but there are some on here that, as beautiful as they are (looking at Ambo and his aztec-MHS here), are they actually in character for a Jedi? A Sith may well pimp-up his hilt, as the Sith are pure style, but a Jedi? Surely, so long as it is functional, that should be enough? Given their whole philosophy and ethos?

Not saying that there's anything wrong with good-looking hilts, it's just something that I've often wondered about in my visits to these forums.
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james3

05-30-2006, 06:20 PM

Thanks for the link Gelu. That's what I had down in Florida and I loved it! Like you said they are not the cheapest thing in town but the reward of not having to clean them and repair rotted out wood is worth it. Thanks again for getting that for me.

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LDS_Trooper

05-30-2006, 10:34 PM

I think the saber hilt thing is somewhat simple. You could also ask, why are the saber duels so much more intense in the prequels than in the original? Think back to what Uncle George said... it is Jedi in their prime. There was an established council and the support that comes with it.

With EP IV and forward, Luke was stuck mostly on his own... Obi nor Yoda sat down with him (on screen at least) and let him in on the full spectrum of the Jedi Order. Rather, they consentrated on the work at hand.. getting Luke trained enough to do what needed to be done.

Now, jump out of Star Wars for a moment. If I left you stranded in a wooded area with one knife, some rope and a the instructions to make yourself a walking stick.. would it be plain or pimped?

So, same scene, except now you are trained as a skilled knotsmith and you have a complete guild of knot masters behind you.. plain or pimped?

Why would saber hilts be any different? When left to their own devices, people get creative.

Also, we are not living within the Star Wars Mythos.. and although I look towards Jedi Realism, I see nothing wrong with a display of skill and artistic value. Once we learn to create working sabers, perhaps the technology will place some limitations we are not yet aware of.

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nyjedi

05-31-2006, 11:15 AM

Well said LDS.

I'm a big fan of bling. BUT, 1st and foremost, my hilt (currently in design now) will be usefull.

It reflects my style of fighting as well. Since I use two at a time, either connected or not, the grips will have indents and flares at certain points that I use most when spinning or striking.

As any real swordsperson will know, if you can't feel your weapon, you can't control it. It's a literal extension of your body mechanics.

THAT said, my opinion of Saber Bling is not the vanity, it's the pull on certain symbols for strength in the decor, not to mention a preferred color scheme. You spend alot of time with you saber. I think you should like to use it.

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informalmyx

05-31-2006, 01:13 PM

LDS and NYjedi have how i fell about why each saber is design yeah if you read the orinial movie books lukes spends the minuim time he could constructing his saber cause with tring to helping the rebellion, dodging trouble, and inexperinace he only goes for a simple saber at first.

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GeluKhanGharr

05-31-2006, 11:05 PM

my 2 cents on which sabers had bling and which did not:

none of the Anakin/Vader sabers - they all looked like tools
none of the Jedi except Mace
not the Maul

vane looking:
Tyranus somewhat
Sidious - this is not a tool, it is a jewel!
the worst was Ep III Mace - really pimpy
many of the sith sabers in the EU, but not all

It is a fine line between a good looking saber, a good looking tool(!) and an item to adorn one's self with. To a jedi, the lightsaber is not a possession, but rather an extension, a part of what is called a jedi. Remember Luminara Unduli's chant in the Ilum caves ...
As in good jedi tradition, humbleness and simplicity are good jedi traits. Evident in their attire - simple and earthy. Think Franciscan monks! These qualities are supposed to show in the design of their sabers, since these are such intimate and intimately designed items.
Sith on the other hand, are all about themselves. Their sabers are prized show-off adornments. They are supposed to be flashy and vane. Also aggressive. Maul's saber was not flashy, it was not vane, but it was a weapon of attack, not of defense, it was aggressive. I read somewhere that the jedi council were very much against double bladed staffs because of their aggressive nature. So too was Vader's hilt(all 3 of them) - not flashy, but with a dark, ready to byte feel to it.
As some of you know, I love to design hilts. I have about 5 at this point that need the electronics, but once I am done designing and putting together the hilt I kinda loose interest to work on it and move on to the next one. I find designing jedi hilts MUCH more difficult than sith. A jedi hilt should look benign. It can - and should, for the sake of marketing [;)] - have shiny parts. It should look good, well designed and put together, but at the same time it needs to retain a ...humble (for lack of a better word) look.
With sith hilts on the other hand it is easy - make it as fancy, as claw-y, pointy and sharpy as you feel like. Think Benedictine monks![}:)]
Again, this is MY philosophy, MY 2 cents, so please don't feel offended if it contradicts yours - I am not aiming this at anyone in particular.

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james3

06-01-2006, 11:27 AM

Wow Gelu, very well said. Would you like to do my term paper?[:p]

I like Samuel L. Jackson so from there I reckon I am a Mace fan since let's face it the whole dang role was made because he is a Star Wars fan and wanted to be in the movies.
You don't like Mace I am cool with that.

Now I do have a few questions more to figure out where is that line since it obviously changed throughout the run of movies and EU brings a whole other factor.

What is it that makes Maces EP2/EP3 hilt in your mind so darkside? If you don't mind me asking with the gorgous sabers that you do would that awsome Golden Cameleon follow the same darkside path as to be an instrument of show? I only ask this because I wanted to do a bronze, chrome sink tube combo and am wondering if this thing should be red. While I won't say that Maces hilt is the coolest in my mind (remember I like 'em pretty simple) I do feel it is a nicely balanced hilt much like Qui-Gon's which is awsome looking as well but could be argued that it is dark and/or aggresive looking. The first time I saw it in EP1 the first thing I thought of was Shogun this guy is a butt kickin' Jedi.

Your list pretty much follows what I was saying before Anakin/Vader had no pride or emotion in his lightsaber it was no more then a tool to use as he saw fit and could give a hoot about what it looked like. Would it be possible that at some point in being a Knight or more likely Master that Jedi do start to feel maybe just a bit seperated from the average folks? Maybe in their lightsaber is the subtle hints as to where a Jedi is going in their path? I would wonder why the council would only let council members use the rare metals to build or upgrade their sabers? Wouldn't that be making a class system in their own order while still trying to appear as farmers and simple folks?

I too am really enjoying this discussion and hope that my questions and comments are not taken the wrong way as well.

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GeluKhanGharr

06-01-2006, 12:19 PM

Don't get me wrong, I too love Samuel L. Jackson. Did ever since I saw him in Pulp Fiction. And I do believe he does an awesome job bringing Mace Windu to life. It is the character I am not a fan of.
I see too much pride invested in that saber, too much of a "look-at-me" attitude. I like the looks of it. Very much! But I do not feel it is fitting with what a jedi attitude should be.

Yes, you picked up well on my intention. The "Golden Chameleon" is supposed to be a sith saber. One of my customers told me it reminds her of those show pieces Marines wear for parades.

There is gold on Obi-Wan's hilt. There is copper on Luke's hilt. Yet, I do not feel that simply using these metals makes the hilts flashy. I believe it is more in the shape of the hilt and in the quantity of colored metals that makes them flashy. A simple chrome hilt (like Anakin's epIII) still looks like a tool.
I don't see Qui-Gon's hilt as flashy at all, but I do pick up on a hint of aggressive feel. I am still struggling with that one, because I do see this character as nothing but kindness and strength in the most amazing combination. My favorite character - BTW

As for your thought about the council's interdiction on the use of rare metals by non council-members - I think you hit the nail right on the head. I do believe they wanted to distinguish themselves from "ordinary" jedi. But then again, their attitude did not seem very orthodox when it came to following jedi doctrine - think of the assignment for Anakin. (BTW, I do believe THIS is the drop that spilled the glass and tipped him to the dark side)

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Madcow

06-01-2006, 12:25 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by LDS_Trooper

Now, jump out of Star Wars for a moment. If I left you stranded in a wooded area with one knife, some rope and a the instructions to make yourself a walking stick.. would it be plain or pimped?

So, same scene, except now you are trained as a skilled knotsmith and you have a complete guild of knot masters behind you.. plain or pimped?

Why would saber hilts be any different? When left to their own devices, people get creative.

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I think that Jedi are simple and all about the functional (lightsaber = tool). But I also think that some are intensely creative - people are different. If you look at medival monks (of many varieties) they mostly share a value of simple life - yet some of the most amazing dark age art comes from these monks. If I was a Jedi, my lightsaber would be an extension of my creativity, my art.

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GeluKhanGharr

06-01-2006, 12:27 PM

Madcow, judging by the hilts you've created, you ARE a jedi [:)]

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james3

06-01-2006, 01:12 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by GeluKhanGharr

Madcow, judging by the hilts you've created, you ARE a jedi [:)]
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I completely agree there. MC you do some cool hilts man very Jedi like.

Gelu, I think you may be on to something here. We pretty much all agree that Palps was an incredible manipulator and you may very well be on to it as far as Anakin goes, it is one thing for ole Palps to say someone is to dangerous to be left alive but hearing that ring out from a Jedi Master on the council was just the resoning he needed after being pushed by the council with his assignment. Dang that was good insight. It would seem that a huge danger of Vaapad form around a Sith lord could bring a Jedi to far into the dark and be manipulated. HMMM.. reflect on this I must.
I understand how you feel about Qui-Gon. I think that his time in the story was way to darn short. Like I said at first I was thinking this was a warrior Jedi, but it was pretty obvious even with the blast door scene that he was so much more then that. I think maybe his hilt did reflect a bit of that rogue/rebel spirit that was in his making. I guess flashy really wasn't what I was thinking as much as aggresive, which showed his strength that when it was time to fight he was pretty darn impressive. You almost have to wonder if the prop people were giving an idea of the character when they made the hilts.
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GeluKhanGharr

06-01-2006, 01:36 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Madcow
I think that Jedi are simple and all about the functional (lightsaber = tool). But I also think that some are intensely creative - people are different. If you look at medival monks (of many varieties) they mostly share a value of simple life - yet some of the most amazing dark age art comes from these monks. If I was a Jedi, my lightsaber would be an extension of my creativity, my art.
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MadCow, are you familiar with the art of Constantin Brancusi?
http://www.ici.ro/romania/images/cultura/nox_asbrancusi1.jpg He was a sculptor from the beginning of the last century, and has some amazing pieces, pieces that have taken this art form to a new level. Yet, they are deceivingly simple. Such is Bird in Space
http://www.mystudios.com/treasure/brancusi/brancusi_thumb.jpg

...or The infinite (or endless) Column
http://www.artlex.com/ArtLex/s/images/sculp_branc.endlss.lg.jpg

...or The Table of Silence
http://www.westminster.edu/staff/brennie/rel163/images/Brancusi%20Table%20of%20Silence.jpg

This is art in the true sense of the word. Yet, there is nothing ostentatious about it. Nothing flashy, nothing in-your-face.
Don't you think?

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Madcow

06-01-2006, 06:02 PM

No I wasn't familiar with his work.
I admit, I am an uneducated artist. Those works are pure and simple. I like that - I think it sometimes says much more. "Profound" I guess is the word.
I have studied some religeous history, and I thought of the monks in Kells Ireland who created the "Book of kells" as an artistic expression of the Gospels in the bible.
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From the pure and simple to the divinely intricate. I guess if a lightsaber is art - then anything is possible.

Back to the point - the lightsaber may then say more about the person who bears it then we thought.

PS - didn't the actors from Ep 1 choose their handles from a selection of several the prop creators made up?

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xwingband

06-01-2006, 06:05 PM

Yup, the EP characters picked their's from a box...

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nyjedi

06-01-2006, 11:17 PM

When I saw the making fo the EP I, I was TOTALLY impressed with the fact that they allowed the actors to choose. It would have been far cooler if the actor were able to DESIGN thier own though.

I love this topic BTW.

Now we're talking expression vs practical function. Even though the use of the practical tool enables expression of the art form known as saber. Or Bushido, or Kendo, or fencing, etc. <insert artform here> BUT we're still talking about defeating an enemy efficiently.

Also, think about energy. It vibrates. The Force is perceived as an energy that could be something to use tangibly, creating manipulation of objects. Bricks, throats, X-wing fighters, yadda yadda yadda. If the Force is in everything, then that would mean that the force would vibrate at different rates for different objects. Rocks, water, air, flesh, mind, yet be totally resonant with it's surroundings.

Now thinking as a Jedi building his own saber, if I were to use a precious, or rare material, with the council members having knowledge and possibly wisdom of the Force and understanding that all things are connected, I would choose certain metals/parts that held a particular power, or vibration that rang true with the other pieces of my tool of expression. Something that may not be understood by the inexperienced, or lesser knowledgable Padawan. You can have power, but if you don't use it right, go boom, fall down.

So does that mean being expressive with your artform and enjoying it is bad when it's about killing? Defeating an enemy with a satisfied smile? After all, you should enjoy every facet of life. Even death.

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nyjedi

06-01-2006, 11:36 PM

Actually, what about these designs? Too flashy?

http://www.advanced-light.com/images/gallery/gwcomp002.jpg

Personally, I dig this one.

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headwound

06-02-2006, 12:26 AM

A jedi weapon is an extension of who they are, not just tools. If you feel that to have a good 'jedi' weapon you must have a saber resembling only a tool, then that is your extension. A saber is not a bad one or a good one based on how it looks, it is good or bad based on how it reflects the user/bulder. I love my saber (pics not posted), it is not the most skillfully constructed, but when I look at others on this and other sites, there is no other that I would prefer over it, that is what makes it a good saber.

naashar

06-02-2006, 07:47 AM

Excellent points, All! I'm really digging this thread, especially the connections that've been made with "extensions" vs. "tools", and the like. I've found that it is because of, not in spite of, their funtionality coupled with individual flair, that the Lightsaber has become iconic, even in its variety. The works of Robert Blake come to mind. His works (art and prose) were influenced by various exoteric (gospels) and esoteric (masonic mysteries) sources; now, he is the standard by which others are judged! The same, for me, holds true for the 'saber. Found objects and a nominally fleshed out mythos created the 'saber; now, the 'saber is the icon (besides the Vader visage) of SW and related millieu (see: Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back, ending sequence).

And who can we thank for this almost unperceived shift? Us, and folks like us, m'friends. A chord has been struck on some level with everyone in this forum, and it is our work and lively discussions like these that affect the change from influenced to influencing.

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desertscorpion

06-02-2006, 09:17 AM

I think you guys are hitting the nail on the head on a much bigger idea. And it is an idea that has infiltrated Buddhist,Judeo-Christian, Nostic, and many other philosophies, for thousands of years. And that is the poverty mentality. The one that says riches and self expression are bad, or at least a lesser thing. And moreover, if a person is drab and only eats cream of wheat and celery, that somehow they are more Holy and better than others and have reached some higher plain. Some philosophies even go as far to say that matter is evil, period. I, personally, think this flies in the face of art and the beauty of nature itself. There's even just the innate tendency for a kid in school to doodle on a notebook and personalize it. We've all done it. No one had to show us how. It's part of being human. I think the evil starts when ones thoughts start to take the direction of: "I'm more important than others," and when material items start taking the place of other people...and even "self." As long as a jedi can pour himself into a beautiful hilt, but at the same time be able to say that "It was ultimately only a tool. It served it's purpose." then I think that jedi is balanced. My 2 cents. Good stuff.

Madcow

06-02-2006, 10:01 AM

"See, it is I who created the blacksmith who fans the coals into flame and forges a weapon fit for it's work."
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nyjedi

06-02-2006, 09:49 PM

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"I See, replied the Universe. However, the fact has not created in me a sense of obligation."

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naashar

06-03-2006, 07:45 AM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by nyjedi

"A man said to the Universe, SIR, I EXIST!"

"I See, replied the Universe. However, the fact has not created in me a sense of obligation."

- Stephan Crane

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Ambo

06-03-2006, 08:10 AM

When you look at yourself from a universal standpoint, something inside always reminds or informs you that there are bigger and better things to worry about.

-Albert Einstein, The World as I See It.

A human being is part of a whole, called by us the Universe, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings, as something separated from the rest--a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circles of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty.

-Albert Einstein

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naashar

06-03-2006, 09:44 AM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Ambo

When you look at yourself from a universal standpoint, something inside always reminds or informs you that there are bigger and better things to worry about.

-Albert Einstein, The World as I See It.

A human being is part of a whole, called by us the Universe, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings, as something separated from the rest--a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circles of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty.

-Albert Einstein

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"...the Square 'squares' my actions, and the Compasses keep me circumscribed within the bounds of all mankind.."
- the Ancient Mysteries

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Mor-El Kesav

06-04-2006, 04:23 PM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by GeluKhanGharr

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by rohgan

I know everyone loves to see a bit of "bling" on their saber, but there are some on here that, as beautiful as they are (looking at Ambo and his aztec-MHS here), are they actually in character for a Jedi? A Sith may well pimp-up his hilt, as the Sith are pure style, but a Jedi? Surely, so long as it is functional, that should be enough? Given their whole philosophy and ethos.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I have had similar feelings, particularly about Mace's hilt. To a Jedi, a saber IS supposed to be nothing but a tool. So, why the flash, why the bling? Well, in my research of the subject I found an interesting fact - Mace taps into the dark side to augment his power. Maybe that's why he's my least favorite character - he does fight for the "good guys" but he's smeared in darkness. In his case it shows as vanity - lots of bling. And the purple blade has a strong significance - if you mix blue and red you do get purple!

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Actually Mace's lightsaber blade is purple for far less sinister reasons. Purple is Sam Jackson's favorite color. He made an off the cuff comment to George Lucas about wanting a purple blade, and he got it.

"Destroy the Sith we must!"
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nyjedi

06-04-2006, 09:39 PM

Our team just got sponsored by Galactic Arms and Advanced Light Weaponry. http://www.galacticarms.com/

Their coming out with a whole new line of COMBAT READY sabers, and trust me these things rock! You can hit em together like BRICKS!

This is an MR conversion of a Darth Maul. Not too much bling, but handles like a dream! The power switch has been switched back to a Darth Vader style, but works great too! I don't knock the power off it the middle of sparring.

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