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todd4566
05-27-2006, 02:31 PM
Well, I think I'm done polishing this hilt. Though the MHS is fairly shiney as is, I wanted a brighter luster. Luckily the aluminum on the MHS carries only minor blemishes (great machine work Styrder!), so I was able to skip right to the 2000 grit sandpaper combined with plenty of metal polish. I still might put some O-rings in the grooved area, but here's my 5w Green as it looks now. [:)]

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Jedi Ranger
05-27-2006, 02:34 PM
WOW! That looks great! How long did that take you?

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Spencer_P
05-27-2006, 02:35 PM
I need a drooling emoticon.

That's really cool!

todd4566
05-27-2006, 02:44 PM
Thanks! I got the hilt to a good shine with about an hour invested and just using the metal polish. Earlier today I found some 2000 grit sandpaper in the garage and thought "why not?" Lol. That was about 2 hours ago. Doesn't take too long, again, thanks to the great machine work done by Tim. I polished the Luke FX awhile back, and that bad boy took forever thanks to all the surface imperfections - and I'm still not 100% satisfied with it either.

Here's the MR polished Luke:
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xwingband
05-27-2006, 02:55 PM
Mmm... I'm going to have to try that. I didn't know they went to 2000 grit (I've only been up to 800). I'm assuming I'd need to stick my head in an autoparts store, any recommendations for the polish like what exactly you used?

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Spencer_P
05-27-2006, 02:58 PM
I've gotten 2000 grit in the auto section of my local Super Wal-Mart.

todd4566
05-27-2006, 03:11 PM
Yup, I get the 2000 at the local auto part store. 1500 grit also works alright, but to get the best finish 2000 is the ticket. As for the polish, I personally use Simichrome Polish, but the easy to find Blue Magic Metal Polish works decent also.

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Jedi Ranger
05-27-2006, 03:56 PM
I hope you don't mind my asking (for clarification), but I've never done anything like this before. Did you use the 2000 grit first, and then rub on metal poliish with a cloth after? Or do you put the polish on the sand paper and go from there? Or, do you rub on the polish, and then use the sand paper?

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05-27-2006, 04:27 PM
1.) Tape off the areas you don't want to polish.
2.) Sand the surfaces you wish to polish evenly. *For this project I held the sand paper in one hand, and rotated the hilt on the paper with the other.
3.) Apply the polish to a paper towel or soft rag and apply to the sanded areas. Don't be afraid to be generous since excess polish can be easily buffed/wiped off.
4.) Buff the polished areas until your content with the results. Repeat step 2-4 if there are any areas with unwanted scratches.

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Jedi Ranger
05-27-2006, 05:43 PM
Thanks alot! I can't wait to try this! This is actually perfect timing, since I am in the process of building 2 new hilts, for myself.

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Firebird21
05-27-2006, 06:13 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by xwingband

I didn't know they went to 2000 grit <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

I used to use 3000 grit paper (foam) when I worked in the body shop.

It's more like 1/16" faom with a thin coat of very fine abrasive material on it.

Works Awsome for buffing cars!


Edit:
Found a pic...
http://multimedia.mmm.com/mws/mediawebserver.dyn?6666660Zjcf6lVs6EVs66621yc7rrrr Q-

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tetmatek
05-27-2006, 06:16 PM
If the metal has imperfections use 600grit then move to 1000 then 1500 then 2000. If you want to go farther i use 2500 and 3000trizact. The smoother the metal the easier the final polish will be. The folks at Eastwood sell some kits for doing it all. Here's a link to their metal polishing area:

http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemType=CATEGORY&itemID=432

Tim's machining only requires 1000grit since his MHS hilts have light machine marks and the MR is a fast production cut and it is not as precise of a job as our man does!!!

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tetmatek
05-27-2006, 07:29 PM
The only problem with the 3000 Trizac is it coast 75 dollars for 15 to 20 pieces. But it is the stuff. I sand and polish my bowling equipment useing the same stuff

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Mi Gin Gonn
05-27-2006, 09:06 PM
that looks awesome, todd! me want!

when i used to do auto detailing i'd use this type of clay block to make the metal surfaces of cars as smooth as a baby's butt. wonder if that'd help on machined metal too?

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Do-Clo
05-27-2006, 09:36 PM
I have used Mother's aluminum polish on aluminum wheels before and I have turned machined wheels into to polished wheels with the polish and a buffing wheel. I wonder how well it would work on the MHS parts[?]

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WeirdoTransvestite
05-27-2006, 10:08 PM
You know what I think? I think he didn't really polish the hilt, and instead got it chrome plated. Then, he decided to make it seem like he put the work in to actually polish it, in order to earn praise. [;)]

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Madcow
05-27-2006, 10:54 PM
Sounds like someone's jealous...

Looks polished to me - I've got a few of mine to look almost that nice. And I don't think you can chrome plate aluminum, but firebird is the master of that domain.

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jtsteph
05-27-2006, 11:31 PM
Looks very nice.

informalmyx
05-28-2006, 02:09 AM
how did you setup to polish it the only polishng i hae done was with my dremel

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Firebird21
05-28-2006, 03:43 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Mi Gin Gonn

when i used to do auto detailing i'd use this type of clay block to make the metal surfaces of cars as smooth as a baby's butt. wonder if that'd help on machined metal too?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">



Claying only removes particles (that washing doesn't remove) from the paint surface, it doesn't actually polish it.
FYI It's recommended that you Clay the finish of your vehicle once a year to keep it at it's best shine.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Madcow

And I don't think you can chrome plate aluminum, but firebird is the master of that domain.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Yes you can Chrome Aluminum. You just have to Zincate it first.
Some Harley Davidson parts are aluminum and have some of the highest quality Chrome on the market today.

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05-28-2006, 10:48 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Madcow

Sounds like someone's jealous...
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A little.

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todd4566
05-28-2006, 11:58 AM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by WeirdoTransvestite

You know what I think? I think he didn't really polish the hilt, and instead got it chrome plated. Then, he decided to make it seem like he put the work in to actually polish it, in order to earn praise. [;)]<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

On the bottom of this thread (http://thecustomsabershop.com/sabers/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1047), I posted a pic of the hilt with only metal polish applied. The emitter & ribbed section really benefit from a good sanding, but the lower "hilt" pieces are already very smooth. With just metal polish alone I was able to get the lower half very shiney. [;)]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by informalmyx

how did you setup to polish it the only polishng i hae done was with my dremel<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

I didn't use a dremel at all on this project. It was all in the hands. [8D]


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05' MR Anakin ROTS
05' MR Luke ROTJ
06' MR Maul TPM
MHS 5w Luxeon (Green)

Hitogiri
05-29-2006, 02:17 AM
Where did you get the Simicrome? I know you can get it over the net but I was wondering if you got it somewhere local, just hate to spend 5-10 bucks on shipping for a $3 tube of metal polish. lol

Devilstar2k2
05-30-2006, 07:11 AM
You can also use Mothers Mag Polish... Available at Walmart.

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EDIT-

Just saw this:

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Do-Clo

I have used Mother's aluminum polish on aluminum wheels before and I have turned machined wheels into to polished wheels with the polish and a buffing wheel. I wonder how well it would work on the MHS parts[?]
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

It will work just fine... [;)]

Do-Clo
05-30-2006, 09:49 AM
Yea that Mothers is some good stuff works better than most of the stuff out there.

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Nightwing
05-30-2006, 01:05 PM
Oh... my... lord...

I have to do that to my saber!!! [:D][:D][:D]


Dang, this is starting to make me want to make something more along the lines of an Obi-Wan TPM saber.

Jedi-Loreen
05-30-2006, 02:10 PM
<font size="3"><font color="blue">Yeah, now I'm thinking about it, too.</font id="blue"></font id="size3"> [:p]


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xwingband
05-30-2006, 02:56 PM
I'm going to get the stuff tomorrow.[:D] Not for the MHS but an aluminum hilt anyway.

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xwingband
05-31-2006, 07:38 PM
The polishing is nice. Me likee... I will get pictures whenever my camera battery charges.

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james3
05-31-2006, 07:45 PM
shoot while it's on the cord dude I want to see that puppy[:D]

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xwingband
05-31-2006, 08:03 PM
Sorry, it has a special type of li-ion battery that needs to be charged. It would be great if it could pull power off the USB port, but it doesn't work that way.[:(]

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james3
05-31-2006, 08:07 PM
Doh! Well then I will sit on my anticipation and look forward to seeing the pics.

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xwingband
05-31-2006, 08:56 PM
I'll try to get better pics tomorrow... it's hard to get good light in the middle of the night.[xx(]

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I polished the emitter and pommel, but not the ribs. It's mot an MHS, it's a stunt (beating stick) I had milled out, but you could easily make a similar one via the MHS.

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Zhi-don
06-01-2006, 05:44 PM
Now I'm gonna piss off a lotta people with this, but I am planning on painting my Luke #5 satin black. The front and rear lips will remain unpainted, but the main front section and the end section will be black. The middle section will be copper. The main section will be either polished aluminum or a chrome sink tube over the MHS. That will also be black after being machined into a grip section by Tim. The main section will have a cutout to show the grip ala Obi-wan EP1. I'm sure you get the idea with this pic:

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xwingband
06-01-2006, 05:49 PM
Why would people be pissed... It's not like it's super accurate in the first place.[?]

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james3
06-01-2006, 05:53 PM
Agreed, we all saw your design and know what your lookin for. Why in the world would anyone get pissed off? It says "Custom" saber shop on the door we may all use the same parts but it's what ya do with it that counts.

EDIT- Oh BTW xwing it's tomorrow, that thang looks good but now I want some more pics.[;)]

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Zhi-don
06-01-2006, 10:38 PM
I was just kidding. I was thinking to myself, these guys are polishing the crap out of these things and it looks pretty cool, and here I am about to paint it. It just struck me as funny. I guess I used the wrong phraseology. I should have said, "It's gonna sound pretty funny, but I'm going to paint it."

Sorry about that.....I stand corrected....[:I]

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xwingband
06-02-2006, 01:57 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by james3

EDIT- Oh BTW xwing it's tomorrow, that thang looks good but now I want some more pics.[;)]

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Yeah, I know... I'll get on that.

EDIT: Pics!
http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/photoalbum/xwingband/polished011.jpg
http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/photoalbum/xwingband/polished006.jpg
http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/photoalbum/xwingband/polished005.jpg

I need a tripod... I actually pulled out a PolyC balde to hold my camera.[:o)]Hopefully the reflections can show you what it does to the aluminum, the matte unpolished grips versus the polished emitter.

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06-02-2006, 08:31 PM
nice[|)]

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Ambo
06-03-2006, 07:48 AM
I polished this up quite a while ago....

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james3
06-03-2006, 08:04 AM
xwing, SCHWWEEEEETT! I do like that design you have there neat switch between the emitter and grip, gives it that years of service look.

Ambo, did you use the dremel or polish by hand? I forgot how cool the twins were.

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DACOTA
06-03-2006, 01:55 PM
so an mhs saber would come out almost chromey if you use 2000 grit sand paper and mothers aluminum polish?mothers rocks,well its good enough for famous custom car builder chip foose its gotta be good for sabers.

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xwingband
06-03-2006, 03:24 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by DACOTA

so an mhs saber would come out almost chromey if you use 2000 grit sand paper and mothers aluminum polish.mothers rocks,well its good enough for famous custom car builder chip foose its gotta be good for sabers.

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lol, that sound like a commercial for Foose and Mother's polish.

James, That is actually the blade screw. No light up on that one. It's my beating stick (stunt saber).[:D] No frills it's just got for twirlin' and whackin' like there's no tomorrow.

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Ambo
06-03-2006, 04:02 PM
He meant the transition(switch) between the polished and the unpolished.....

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xwingband
06-03-2006, 04:08 PM
Ahh... D'oh. I've been at work. I'm tired.[xx(]

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Ambo
06-03-2006, 04:44 PM
It's okay Xwing, I thought the same thing at first.



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DACOTA
06-04-2006, 11:22 AM
sorry i should have put a question mark. i changed it,better?

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xwingband
06-04-2006, 12:47 PM
Yeah, now that it's a question it makes sense.

I took about 5 minutes each on each grit (for pommel and emitter seperate). I went 800 to 1000 to 1500 to 2000 then polished. As tetmatek said (I believe it was him[?]) it depends on the quality of the machining and if you scratched it up yet. The lower grits help remove the smaller imperfections so that polishing doesn't take a lifetime.

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987654321a
06-04-2006, 02:20 PM
very nice jobs on the sabers guys

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Erik
06-04-2006, 02:45 PM
Forgive me, I find it ironic[:)] The Japanese swordmasters use similar techniques to polish the blades on their swords but don't polish the Tang / hilt area. We polish the hilt, but not the blade...I wonder why....?[:p]

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987654321a
06-04-2006, 02:56 PM
cause the hilt is unique, and the blade is simple for us, but for them the blade is unique and the hilt is simple

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todd4566
06-04-2006, 03:17 PM
Here's a couple new pics after a little more polishing and a royal blue 5w (now being powered by a 9v).
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a130/todd4566/blue2.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a130/todd4566/blue5.jpg
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My collection:
02' MR Anakin AOTC
05' MR Anakin ROTS
05' MR Luke ROTJ
06' MR Maul TPM
MHS 5w Luxeon (Green)

LAN-ED-TUL
06-04-2006, 09:21 PM
looks good todd. very shiiinnny!

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naashar
06-05-2006, 03:38 PM
I've got the 'zact same rig..polishing as per instructions of the thread...I gotta attest that it is right on.

I got some minor advise from a bodywork guy at my job, so I hope to dupe the sheen. Thanks for the idea!

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DACOTA
06-06-2006, 08:32 AM
so whats the best way to polish,im thinking 2000 grit depending upon the scratches,then mothers polish,does that sound good enough?

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james3
06-06-2006, 08:55 AM
Come on now Dacota take yer smart pill this morning.
Yes I think it has been gone through in detail as to how to do this and what to use.

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DACOTA
06-07-2006, 09:11 AM
yeah ok sure .

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Enolmano
06-07-2006, 09:22 AM
Is there any possibilities to polish the blade? I've kinda scratch half of my blade with the "hard side" on a scotch brite...so no it isn't that clear all the way...

I'm a fourteen year old swedish teenager...so be patient...

Ambo
06-07-2006, 01:19 PM
I have polished up blades and polyc sunglass lenses with metal polishes like mothers.....that should at the very least smoth out the scratches....it may take a little work though....oh and mothers takes the buff marks off very well too.....





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todd4566
06-07-2006, 02:39 PM
3M makes a pretty good plastic polish I've used to restore sun-damage headlights; I'm sure it would help reduce the appearance battle scars on the poly blades.

My collection:
02' MR Anakin AOTC
05' MR Anakin ROTS
05' MR Luke ROTJ
06' MR Maul TPM
MHS 5w Luxeon(RylBl/Grn)

LAN-ED-TUL
06-07-2006, 10:48 PM
maybe try that flitz stuff.

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Jedi Ranger
07-09-2006, 06:59 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Zhi-don

Now I'm gonna piss off a lotta people with this, but I am planning on painting my Luke #5 satin black. The front and rear lips will remain unpainted, but the main front section and the end section will be black. The middle section will be copper. The main section will be either polished aluminum or a chrome sink tube over the MHS. That will also be black after being machined into a grip section by Tim. The main section will have a cutout to show the grip ala Obi-wan EP1. I'm sure you get the idea with this pic:

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Wow, not sure how I missed the continuation of this topic. Anyway, Zhi-don, are you talking about doing a main hilt like I did a while back? I'm not sure how many people have requested the grip grooves, but Tim's new MHS hilt piece looks to be an EXACT match for what I requested a couple months ago, down to the number of grooves and the spacing.[8D]
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Drewbacca
07-15-2006, 11:56 AM
The funny thing is Todd...I designed a saber identical to yours while I was waiting for my forum registration to hit my mailbox. Seeing that baby polished is making me drool!

987654321a
07-15-2006, 01:27 PM
how do u polish stuff?

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Jedi-Loreen
07-15-2006, 01:50 PM
<font size="3"><font color="purple">Ah, back to the dumb questions again. We had hope for you.......[V]

Did you read the first part of this thread? Go back and do so and it should become more clear to you. Or more shining?</font id="purple"></font id="size3">[:p]




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ryanlb
07-17-2006, 04:12 PM
How long does the nice, shiny finish last? Is it easily messed up with regular use (fingerprints, etc) or is it pretty durable?

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987654321a
07-17-2006, 04:14 PM
i used mothers mag and aluminum polish and it works very fine, it keeps its shine, after a while u do have to repolish it


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Ambo
07-17-2006, 04:16 PM
yes because oils and dirt from your hands cause the shine to diminish, but the base polish will keep and it will only take a lite polishing to clean it up again.





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ryanlb
07-17-2006, 04:34 PM
Well, if I ever finish my saber I'll be sure to make nice and shiny.

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